Official bitching about Hudson abandoning VC support. [VC/WiiWare = lost cause]

[BooJoh]

Game Gear games are already supposed to be included under the Master System label. Unlike Game Boy, GG is actually official.

Is this actually confirmed? I was under the impression that people merely assumed Game Gear games would be included since (afaik) the two systems use the same basic hardware and thus SMS emulators will run GG games.

[WiiRevolution1]

Wow, you guys haven't gotten the N64 yet? I guess it DOES take a long time. They didn't even spell "Nintendo" right. "Nintenondore"? Come on, NoE, step it up.

so cruis'n confirmed for monday.

Pretty much yea.

Just wish we could get c64 games in NA and a MS date...

[Cheesemeister]

Can anybody see what the system code is for Commodore 64? I'm not finding it.

[FFantasyFX]

PLEASE AVOID CRUISIN USA LIKE THE PLAGUE. You have been warned. (i still have nightmares to this very day)

You know I sorta liked the arcade version, especially the end which I'm sure didn't make the cut in the console edition. Crusin' USA is actually the last (and one of the few) arcade games I ever completed. I've heard that the console port was not up to snuff though, so your warning is probably well merited.

[A Black Falcon]

You know I sorta liked the arcade version, especially the end which I'm sure didn't make the cut in the console edition. Crusin' USA is actually the last (and one of the few) arcade games I ever completed. I've heard that the console port was not up to snuff though, so your warning is probably well merited.

Cruis'n USA on N64 is pretty much a straight port, but with better graphics. It was pretty cool in 1996, but it was rendered somewhat irrelevant by its two sequels... Cruis'n World and Cruis'n Exotica are much better games on the N64 and have substantially more content. They also both have four player modes, while the first one is two player only.

Cruis'n USA could be compared to Cruis'n for the Wii in some ways -- the game's entire content consists of "drive through each of the tracks from the arcade version once and get first place and you're done". World and Exotica added a bunch of additional modes and unlockables to add a bunch of playtime, but the first one didn't have that... nothing to unlock (there are hidden cars, but you just access them via cheat code), no additional modes.

I'd say that at $5 or less Cruis'n USA would be a fine purchase for anyone who likes '90s style arcade racing games, but $10... yeah, that is a bit more questionable. I enjoyed the game, for the couple of hours (max) that it lasted, but I didn't pay $10... I paid somewhere around $3 for it. Whether the game is worth purchasing for VC or not depends first on if you like Cruis'n games (and despite the mountains of hatred they get now, they were very, very popular arcade games, and for good reason) and second if you don't mind buying games that won't last long but are fun while they last, and don't want the N64 cart version (which you could probably get the N64 version of (online, including shipping) for less than the VC version costs...).

[Man God]

The only two N64 racing games left that I'd want to see both have liscensing issuues.

Episode One Podracer and BAR.

[Ranger X]

You know I sorta liked the arcade version, especially the end which I'm sure didn't make the cut in the console edition. Crusin' USA is actually the last (and one of the few) arcade games I ever completed. I've heard that the console port was not up to snuff though, so your warning is probably well merited.

I'm total fan of Cruisin USA arcade version. It is an amazing game. The N64 port simply is one of the worst port of the history of gaming. Think Outrunners or Turbo Outrun Genesis bad. No wait, San Fransisco Rush PS2 bad.

[Iam Canadian]

The fuck? Also what better way to launch another console on VC than with ANOTHER SHMUP! Don't quite have enough of those yet.

There's no such thing as enough shmups. :P

[Capndrake]

Oooooh, you're gonna love Japan's April schedule. Somebody else help me translate please, Babelfish only translates partially:

Famicom:
-TMNT
-Sky Kid
-Volguard II
-Bokosuka Wars

Super Famicom:
-Famicom Detective Club Part II
-Hercules no Eikou IV

N64:
-Kirby 64

Master System:
-Wonder Boy

Mega Drive:
-Musha Aleste
-Phantasy Star III
-Phelios

PC Engine:
-Riot Zone
-Legend of Valkyrie
-DRACULA X :O :O :O
-Digital Champion: Battle Boxer
-Monster Lair

Neo Geo:
-Metal Slug

Thanks, Cinos and Rlan.

[CinosAges]

The Japanese site just got a massive update:

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/vc/lineup.html

Looks like 17 games in April, including Dracula X!!!

Edit: Looks like Phantasy Star III is there too

So for the Mega Drive:
Aleste
Phantasy Star III
Phelios

[Rlan]

Megadrive:

武者アレスタ = Aleste
時の継承者 ファンタシースターIII = Phantasy Star III
フェリオス = Phelios

NES

ボコスカウォーズ = Bokosuka Wars

SNES

ヘラクレスの栄光IV = HERACRES NO EIKOU IV

[Capndrake]

Oh yeah, vc-pce.com is updated and once again has no games for any region but Japan, so April looks TG-less for the rest of us again.

[volmer]

Dracula X i.e. awesome VG-music here we come. :-)

[mosaic]

HOLY CRAP!

Aleste (aka M.U.S.H.A.) AND Dracula X?!?!?

That's like... can we get that for the US Virtual Console plzkthx?!

Man... M.U.S.H.A. is one of my favorite shmups. I'll fork over 800 pts day one for that sucker. Dracula X on a big screen would be nice too.

[RedBoot]

Oh yeah, vc-pce.com is updated and once again has no games for any region but Japan, so April looks TG-less for the rest of us again.

Ah, uh, that's obviously a mistake. I'm sure they just haven't updated the other regions yet. Right? Surely.

:(

Anyway, clearly the best thing coming in April for Japan is Bokosuka Wars.

[evilromero]

Well, the VC just exploded with more awesomeness.

[borghe]

M.U.S.H.A., Dracula X, and PS3 would be major for April here in the US. I would go so far as to say I would forgive VC for the entire beginning of the year for those three games.

I have a confession. ANY TIME I have messed around with genesis emulators, musha is one of the first games I always play. I did own it at some point, but was young and simply couldn't pass up selling it at the time for like $35!!

[Stumpokapow]

Uh... Famicom Detective Club Part II is the biggest news on that list. Nintendo Power cart support means they're actually looking in to supporting bizarre hardware additions. Hopefully NES Zapper games aren't too long up the river

[Nuclear Muffin]

I can't highlight spoiler text on my iPhone, is that Dracula X Rondo of Blood or is it the SNES one?!!! (Please be ROB!)

Would be great to have a perfectly emulated English version instead of the imperfect PSP one!

Edit: It is ROB, sweeeeet! Oh and to the post below this one, the VC version is still by far the best one you can get (Even over the original and the PSP one) filter or not!

[leroy hacker]

M.U.S.H.A. has been one of my most wanted Genesis games. This is great news. Hopefully a US release isn't far behind.

As for Dracula X, I will not be downloading it unless the TG-16 emulation is somehow fixed. They're giving us what is apparently one of the great 2-d games, but they won't let us see the pixel art in its true form, through their vaseline filter.

In other words, what you see isn't "broken". It's deliberately done.

I'm so tired of this bullshit.

[leroy hacker]

Nintendo Power cart support means they're actually looking in to supporting bizarre hardware additions. Hopefully NES Zapper games aren't too long up the river

Nintendo Power games were merely regular SNES roms that happened to be distributed in a different way. Emulating them should't require supporting any extra hardware, so don't get your hopes up.

[nincompoop]

As for Dracula X, I will not be downloading it unless the TG-16 emulation is somehow fixed. They're giving us what is apparently one of the great 2-d games, but they won't let us see the pixel art in its true form, through their vaseline filter.

LOL

[MoxManiac]

hopefully dracula x won't take too long coming over here. THey can just use the PSP version translation!

[sk3tch]

Hey guys,

I just bought a Japanese Wii off of a fellow GAFfer (it should arrive next week!). I wanted it primarily for VC and WiiWare...is there anything I need to know about using a JPN console in the US? I heard that you can use a US credit card via this thread...so I think I'm set.

[Capndrake]

Can anybody see what the system code is for Commodore 64? I'm not finding it.

I can't find them either, did you use your new image locator thingy or not?

And on that subject, any idea what the code for WiiWare is?

[Luigison]

I woke up this morning with video game music in my head. At first in my lucid dreaming I was trying to figure out what game it was from. I was thinking Tetris, but knew that was wrong. Then I realized it was from Megaman 2. :)

[Cheesemeister]

I can't find them either, did you use your new image locator thingy or not? And on that subject, any idea what the code for WiiWare is?

It's hardly new; I wrote the program about a year ago. But all searches for Commodore 64 came up empty. If someone from Europe has downloaded either of them, we can find out the save filename.

The system code for WiiWare is W, unsurprisingly.

[Dr. Zoidberg]

hopefully dracula x won't take too long coming over here. THey can just use the PSP version translation!

In all honesty, does anybody actually believe this?

IF it comes to the US, which is certainly possible, they will release the original Japanese version and it will be an "import" TG16 CD game so it will cost 900 points.

That's all fine with me, but anyone hoping for the translated PSP version or anything at this point is living in a dream world.

[nincompoop]

In all honesty, does anybody actually believe this? IF it comes to the US, which is certainly possible, they will release the original Japanese version and it will be an "import" TG16 CD game so it will cost 900 points. That's all fine with me, but anyone hoping for the translated PSP version or anything at this point is living in a dream world.

Don't Turbo CD games cost 900 points anyway? They might try getting away with 1000 for Dracula X.
I won't bother with it anyway since I already have it on PSP, I didn't have any problems with the supposedly poor emulation quality in DXC.

[borghe]

edit - nm, reading is my biggest problem.

[beelzebozo]

i am going to get up on dracula x like white on rice on a paper plate being eaten by a polar bear with a plastic fork in a snowstorm. also the polar bear is wearing a white shirt.

first thing i've been genuinely excited about on v.c. in a long time.

[nincompoop]

Oh cool, I could've sworn Lords of Thunder was 900. Maybe I should bite the bullet on that instead of sitting on my 800 remaining Wii Points while I wait for Earthbound to go up, lol.

[Capndrake]

The system code for WiiWare is W, unsurprisingly.

Thanks, but I'm not finding any pictures there, can you give a game code too?

EDIT: Thanks

If someone from Europe has downloaded either of them, we can find out the save filename.

I know some people who got one or two, I'll ask one of them to check.

[Cheesemeister]

Thanks, but I'm not finding any pictures there, can you give a game code too?

Off the top of my head, Dr. Mario is WDMJ. They're not being added from AA onward like the VC titles are.

[Ranger X]

Meh, we need BLOODLINES.

I feel like i will eternally wait for this one :(

[Capndrake]

If someone from Europe has downloaded either of them, we can find out the save filename.

Friend says:

International Karate: C9YP
Uridium: C99P

[Cheesemeister]

Friend says: International Karate: C9YP Uridium: C99P

Thanks!

[Somnid]

Friend says: International Karate: C9YP Uridium: C99P

Crafty. I knew they were somewhere in C.

[Iam Canadian]

I'm not sure if I'll get Rondo of Blood or not. On the one hand, it's a great game, one of the best Castlevania games out there. It would also be nice to not have to play it on the little PSP screen. Still...I already own it.

I'll probably get it just to support imports, if nothing else. That and...hey. It's a great game.

[Htown]

Meh, we need BLOODLINES. I feel like i will eternally wait for this one :(

Oh man. THIS.

Super Castlevania IV is fantastic, but every once in a while, monsters just need to be speared.

[Iam Canadian]

We also need some Castlevania III.

Trevor Belmont will always be the true first Belmont, forget Leon.

[Odrion]

I loved Cruisin' USA when I was a kid. It's probably very shit now but oh man that train level was fucking sweet as a kid.

At least this means we'll see 3rd party N64 games, c'mon Take Two give us Space Station Silicon Valley!

[Ranger X]

We also need some Castlevania III. Trevor Belmont will always be the true first Belmont, forget Leon.

Dracula's Curse is my favorite "old school" Castlevania (sorry Rondo fanboys!). Never finished it. Damn hard.

[crowphoenix]

We also need some Castlevania III. Trevor Belmont will always be the true first Belmont, forget Leon.

The 3D Castlevanias are a blight on my existence. I still choosing to get the N64 game over Xenogears when I was a kid. Slogged through it too, until I got to the napalm puzzle. I still have the thing to, sitting with my other games as a testament to research.

[PepsimanVsJoe]

Still waiting on Ys 1 & 2 US....waiting forever. =/

[sfog]

Wonder Boy and a couple of WiiWare titles (Block Breaker Deluxe, Critter Round-up (US title for Saku Saku Animal Panic?), Defend Your Castle) have now been ESRB rated.

[Jiggy]

Oooooh, you're gonna love Japan's April schedule. Somebody else help me translate please, Babelfish only translates partially: Mega Drive: -Musha Aleste -Phelios PC Engine: -Legend of Valkyrie -Dracula X

These are the games I would buy if they were brought over. Incidentally, I hadn't heard of Legend of Valkyrie until about a week ago, when someone pointed out how great a resource that Hardcore Gaming 101 site is and I spent a good few hours looking around it, but it looks like something I'd play--even though it would probably still be in Japanese. Incidentally, that was pretty much always the Cassandra outfit I used in Soul Calibur 2, but the original design with the longer skirt looks better.
But yeah, I'd also be all over Musha, Dracula X, and Phelios (noting that that's not the Genesis version in this video).

With that said, first I'd kind of rather have the Genesis and TG16 games that are already rated. Like, you know, Dragon Slayer, Final Soldier, Ys Book I & II, Gleylancer, Mega Turrican, Shining Force II, and Super Fantasy Zone. If I can't trust that that stuff's coming, there's not much else left to trust.

[minor effort]

As for Dracula X, I will not be downloading it unless the TG-16 emulation is somehow fixed. They're giving us what is apparently one of the great 2-d games, but they won't let us see the pixel art in its true form, through their vaseline filter.

There's no way I'll be able to resist getting Dracula-X on VC, but I'm more than sympathetic to your position. The deliberate uglyfilter on TG16 emulation on the VC definitely kills some of my enthusiasm and has caused me to pass up some lesser titles on the platform.

Yeah, it is a big deal.

[neight]

Ah, damnit, I hoped VC was free of that blurring. They did the same thing with the Mega Man Anniversary Collection. Supposedly to make the visuals easier to look at since we're seeing them through the clarity of these newer consoles.

[borghe]

Ah, damnit, I hoped VC was free of that blurring. They did the same thing with the Mega Man Anniversary Collection. Supposedly to make the visuals easier to look at since we're seeing them through the clarity of these newer consoles.

it is not all vc games. it is ONLY the TG-16/PCE emulator. SNES, NES, Gen, NeoGeo, and N64 games are unaffected. That being said, I do think it sucks but also think many on here make WAY too big a deal out of it. I would love like everyone else to have the unaltered pixels of the game with no filter on them. However I really don't feel it alters the enjoyment of the significant number of TG-16 games I've bought on VC.