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nelsonroyale
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(11-21-2006, 07:39 AM)
 
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#51

a series heh yeah ...every rpg on 360 seems to be planned as a series...mass effect, too human, blue dragon, watch lost odyssey become one next, he lives forever so the premise is there to go against final fantasy

anyway I have no clue about BD, the game is very toriyama, even more than the dragn quest games.

peace
:enemyglider:
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(11-21-2006, 07:39 AM)
 
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#52

Originally Posted by duckroll:
It appears that out of the 3 Mistwalker games in development, one of them in particular is a joint production with a developer in the West (of Japan that is) and if for either the Wii or the DS. That implies that it might be a Nintendo joint production.

Well it's not for the Wii, that much is for certain. Mistwalker is an Xbox 360 console exclusive developer this gen but they are permitted to make handheld games for the competition since MS has no handheld.
duckroll
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(11-21-2006, 07:40 AM)
 
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#53

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Last edited by duckroll : 11-21-2006 at 08:48 AM.
Smiles and Cries
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(11-21-2006, 07:41 AM)
 
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#54

Originally Posted by duckroll:
THIS JUST IN!

Zelda TP fails to get a perfect score from Famitsu because......... it's too hard!


NINTENDOGS got a 40
disappeared
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(11-21-2006, 07:42 AM)
 
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#55

Originally Posted by nelsonroyale:
anyway I have no clue about BD, the game is very toriyama, even more than the dragn quest games.

It's also very Sakaguchi. I'm really hoping both BD and ASH pack in some amazing stories.
Azelover
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(11-21-2006, 07:47 AM)
#56

Originally Posted by duckroll:
- Apparently the GC and Wii versions of Zelda TP are being reviewed seperately... but neither have perfect scores.

I hope it gets nice scores but I'm kinda relieved, specially for the Wii. I'm kind of superstitious about Famitsu and scores, games with perfect Famitsu scores(assuming this includes that) are notorious for giving consoles a boost one year and then sink them into oblivion the next. DS Phat, Gamecube(02 for Jpan and 03 for NA/Europe), PSOne(2000), Dreamcast, the N64, basically all systems that got them so far have fallen into it. I may just be looking at clouds, but like I said I'm superstitious.
ethelred
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(11-21-2006, 07:47 AM)
 
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#57

Originally Posted by disappeared:
It's also very Sakaguchi. I'm really hoping both BD and ASH pack in some amazing stories.

I have no doubt they will. The story concepts for both games are already pretty fantastic, and unique, from what we know of them.

Sakaguchi seems to have come up with some tremendous creative freedom in his new role at Mistwalker. I'm really loving what the guy's doing.
:enemyglider:
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(11-21-2006, 07:49 AM)
 
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#58

Originally Posted by duckroll:
That's factually wrong on several levels. :P

Hmmm... Really?

Quote:
GameSpot: So the Sakaguchi titles are exclusive?

Yoshihiro Maruyama: Of course.

GameSpot: Is Sakaguchi precluded from working on other platforms? Is there any reason to prevent him from creating a PlayStation 3 game?

Yoshihiro Maruyama: There is certain agreement between us, so yes. He will be working only on Xbox 360, but he might do something for handhelds, which is beyond our agreement. Microsoft doesn't have a handheld console.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6126352.html

:P Yourself...
duckroll
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(11-21-2006, 07:51 AM)
 
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#59

Originally Posted by :enemyglider::
:P Yourself...

This same guy also said RE5 was going to be on the PS2 while the Xbox360 version would be in HD. He subsequently got sacked by MS. :P
sprsk
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(11-21-2006, 07:51 AM)
 
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#60

Necronesia(that stupid game) 8767
Monkey ball 8887
Wing island 5665
Cororinpa(the marble game)  6666
SDGundam  8898
Ennichi(dunno what this is) 7776
Tamagochi  7775
Red steel  8998
Trauma center  8987
Elebits!! 8888
Super swing golf  8777
Wario  8989
Zelda  910910
Crayon shinchan  7876
Maxrpg
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(11-21-2006, 07:53 AM)
 
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#61

Originally Posted by :enemyglider::
Hmmm... Really?



:P Yourself...
owwwwwwwwwwned
Adam Blade
Go easy on him, he's a Clipper fan.
(11-21-2006, 07:53 AM)
#62

Originally Posted by sp0rsk:
Red steel  8998



*head esplodes*
Pureauthor
(11-21-2006, 07:53 AM)
 
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#63

Red Steel got a higher score than Trauma Center.

Red Steel got a higher score than Trauma Center.

Red Steel got a higher score than Trauma Center.

RED STEEL got a higher score than TRAUMA CENTER.
Maxrpg
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(11-21-2006, 07:54 AM)
 
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#64

Originally Posted by sp0rsk:
Necronesia(that stupid game) 8767
Monkey ball 8887
Wing island 5665
Cororinpa(the marble game)  6666
SDGundam  8898
Ennichi(dunno what this is) 7776
Tamagochi  7775
Red steel  8998
Trauma center  8987
Elebits!! 8888
Super swing golf  8777
Wario  8989
Zelda  910910
Crayon shinchan  7876
Red Steel better than Trauma Center. Japan likes the gaijin look into their world!
Error
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(11-21-2006, 07:55 AM)
 
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#65

wow at those reviews.
reminder
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(11-21-2006, 07:55 AM)
 
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#66

Originally Posted by sp0rsk:
Necronesia(that stupid game) 8767
Monkey ball 8887
Wing island 5665
Cororinpa(the marble game)  6666
SDGundam  8898
Ennichi(dunno what this is) 7776
Tamagochi  7775
Red steel  8998
Trauma center  8987
Elebits!! 8888
Super swing golf  8777
Wario  8989
Zelda  910910
Crayon shinchan  7876

Are these confirmed?
linsivvi
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(11-21-2006, 07:56 AM)
#67

Originally Posted by sp0rsk:
Red steel  8998

What?
Oblivion
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(11-21-2006, 07:56 AM)
#68

Zelda  9 10 9 10


Damn, was hoping it'd be at least 39. Oh wait, too hard. That means less than Okami too.
Troidal
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(11-21-2006, 07:58 AM)
 
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#69

Originally Posted by Karma Kramer:
Well considering its a 40-50 hour game thats not really that big of a problem. Gabe Newell would approve.

I don't mind the length since I can't even devote that much hours into a single game anymore. It's just that the game might just end in some lameass cliffhanger and I'd hate to see that.
sprsk
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(11-21-2006, 07:59 AM)
 
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#70

Some comments about the zelda review


"The GC version is easier to operate, if you're new to the series it might be more fun for you"
"You can get into the gc version easier"
"Awesome puzzles. Light users should be prepared for a high difficulty. If youre an experienced zelda player you should prolly get the GC version"

In other words, they like the gc version better!

uh oh!
Maxrpg
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(11-21-2006, 08:00 AM)
 
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#71

Originally Posted by sp0rsk:
Some comments about the zelda review


"The GC version is easier to operate, if you're new to the series it might be more fun for you"
"You can get into the gc version easier"
"Awesome puzzles. Light users should be prepared for a high difficulty. If youre an experienced zelda player you should prolly get the GC version"

In other words, they like the gc version better!

uh oh!
It's obvious that Famitsu has a bias against waggle.
Deku
(11-21-2006, 08:02 AM)
 
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#72

Quote:
Red steel - 8/9/9/8 (34/40)

wow.
duckroll
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(11-21-2006, 08:02 AM)
 
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#73

Originally Posted by Troidal:
I don't mind the length since I can't even devote that much hours into a single game anymore. It's just that the game might just end in some lameass cliffhanger and I'd hate to see that.

I don't think that will be the case. But the world is instead set up in such a way that it is open to sequels with different adventures.
NomarTyme
(11-21-2006, 08:03 AM)
 
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#74

Quote:
Super swing golf  8777

I was hoping for better score, but might still get though.
Srider
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(11-21-2006, 08:04 AM)
 
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#75

Originally Posted by Troidal:
I don't mind the length since I can't even devote that much hours into a single game anymore. It's just that the game might just end in some lameass cliffhanger and I'd hate to see that.


Shenmue
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(11-21-2006, 08:04 AM)
 
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#76

Originally Posted by sp0rsk:
Red steel  8998
Scalemail Ted
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(11-21-2006, 08:04 AM)
 
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#77

Haha at Red Steel score.

What did they say about that?
nelsonroyale
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(11-21-2006, 08:05 AM)
 
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#78

Originally Posted by ethelred:
I have no doubt they will. The story concepts for both games are already pretty fantastic, and unique, from what we know of them.

Sakaguchi seems to have come up with some tremendous creative freedom in his new role at Mistwalker. I'm really loving what the guy's doing.


wow...I was thinking this....then I saw the games....creative freedom?? Both are turn based in most basic sense...and BD looks interesting story wise?? WHat is the premise anyway

peace
Altaïr
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(11-21-2006, 08:06 AM)
#79

more proof Famitsu doesn't play the games they review.
Troidal
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(11-21-2006, 08:06 AM)
 
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#80

Originally Posted by Srider:
Shenmue

But they've announced it as a series from the beginning :-P

When devs say, "Oh we'll be making it into a series" midway through the project, that rings suspicion. At least Mistwalker had the balls to say it now than disappoint everyone after playing the game (see Halo 2).
HyperZone<3
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(11-21-2006, 08:06 AM)
 
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#81

Originally Posted by _dementia:
Weren't Age of Empires DS and Mechassault DS Microsoft games?
Majesco liscenced the series for the DS versions. Microsoft didn't have anything to do with them except collect some money.
Jake.
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(11-21-2006, 08:07 AM)
 
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#82

i'm more surprised at the necronesia review.
Chrono
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(11-21-2006, 08:08 AM)
 
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#83

Originally Posted by Maxrpg:
It's obvious that Famitsu has a bias against waggle.

ethelred
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(11-21-2006, 08:10 AM)
 
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#84

Originally Posted by nelsonroyale:
wow...I was thinking this....then I saw the games....creative freedom?? Both are turn based in most basic sense...and BD looks interesting story wise?? WHat is the premise anyway

peace

First, we were talking about stories, not gameplay. And yes, he's demonstrating quite a bit of creativity in the stories of Blue Dragon, ASH, and Lost Odyssey.

Second, we don't know enough about the gameplay of ASH yet to determine whether or not it's creative -- all we know is that it's a SRPG that uses prerendering for the battle sequences.

Third, it's possible for turn-based battle systems to be creative. SHOCKING, YES, I KNOW. Real-time isn't inherently superior and more innovative than turn-based.


Originally Posted by Chrono:
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/4619/headinsandgc7.jpg


So now everyone considers Famitsu reputable and believable for reviews again? That 40/40 for Wind Waker and Nintendogs is justified now, then, right?
nelsonroyale
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(11-21-2006, 08:10 AM)
 
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#85

Originally Posted by duckroll:
I don't think that will be the case. But the world is instead set up in such a way that it is open to sequels with different adventures.

Thats better...umm what do we know about the stories in BD...could you fill me...the concept seems like shamn king or that game okage for ps2, but with dragons....what exactly is creative about the story in BD, could you fill me in? I think the story in LO will most likely be good, but I doubt it will be particularly interesting in this game, it certainly doesnt particularly from the trailers released...maybe one reason for me is because the villain looks terrible, generic geeky evil scientist...maybe this will have some amusing pay offs, who knows

peace

Last edited by nelsonroyale : 11-21-2006 at 08:15 AM.
VOOK
We don't know why he keeps buying PAL, either.
(11-21-2006, 08:12 AM)
 
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#86

I demand a title change, Nintendogs > TP or Red Steel > Trauma Center
Smiles and Cries
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(11-21-2006, 08:20 AM)
 
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#87

Originally Posted by VOOK:
I demand a title change, Nintendogs > TP or Red Steel > Trauma Center

Japan is a world of upside-down thinkers in need of serious Brain Training...

Thank Kamisama for Nintendo
:enemyglider:
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(11-21-2006, 08:20 AM)
 
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#88

Originally Posted by duckroll:
This same guy also said RE5 was going to be on the PS2 while the Xbox360 version would be in HD. He subsequently got sacked by MS. :P

Haha Is that the best that you can come up with? The man made a stupid mistake and now that suddenly makes you the authority on Mistwalker games?

Look, I'm not going to continue to argue the validity of a statement made by the former General Manager of Microsoft Japan's Xbox division about a Japanese second party exclusivity contract with a forum member. It's pointless. No matter how retarded the guy is or what stupid mistakes he made in the past, you don't just pull statements like that out of thin air.

I'd still wouldn't mind seeing some proof to backup your statement though. Link please? Please tell me that you have proof that my statement is "factually incorrect" on so many levels. Where are these facts that you speak of?

...
duckroll
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(11-21-2006, 08:23 AM)
 
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#89

Originally Posted by :enemyglider::
Haha Is that the best that you can come up with? The man made a stupid mistake and now that suddenly makes you the authority on Mistwalker games?

Look, I'm not going to continue to argue the validity of a statement made by the former General Manager of Microsoft Japan's Xbox division about a Japanese second party exclusivity contract with a forum member. It's pointless. No matter how retarded the guy is or what stupid mistakes he made in the past, you don't just pull statements like that out of thin air.

I'd still wouldn't mind seeing some proof to backup your statement though. Link please? Please tell me that you have proof that my statement is "factually incorrect" on so many levels. Where are these facts that you speak of?

...

So you don't want to argue the validity of a former General Manager but you want to argue the validity of an interview Sakaguchi just gave?

Edit: Notice I never claimed to be an authority on Mistwalker, I'm simply relaying what is being blogged about the contents of this week's Famitsu. You're the one who disputed it. :P
psy18
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(11-21-2006, 08:23 AM)
 
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#90

Quote:
Necronesia(that stupid game) 8767
Monkey ball 8887
Wing island 5665
Cororinpa(the marble game)  6666
SDGundam  8898
Ennichi(dunno what this is) 7776
Tamagochi  7775
Red steel  8998
Trauma center  8987
Elebits!! 8888
Super swing golf  8777
Wario  8989
Zelda  910910
Crayon shinchan  7876

@ Necronesia, Wing Island, Cororinpa, Gundam, RED STEEL.

Japan might have a better launch afterall....

What's the reason of Reddo Steeru love?
Tim the Wiz
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(11-21-2006, 08:26 AM)
 
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#91

Why people pay attention to Famitsu reviews is beyond me, it's been proven time and time again just how... ugh, hopeless battle.
Scalemail Ted
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(11-21-2006, 08:28 AM)
 
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#92

I really want a good golf game for Wii. How did they like Tecmo's Super Swing golf? Was it knocked down for not being online? Were the controls fine?
:enemyglider:
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(11-21-2006, 08:39 AM)
 
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#93

Quote:
So you don't want to argue the validity of a former General Manager but you want to argue the validity of an interview Sakaguchi just gave?

Edit: Notice I never claimed to be an authority on Mistwalker, I'm simply relaying what is being blogged about the contents of this week's Famitsu. You're the one who disputed it. :P

No. I just disputed that it would be on the Wii. You said it would be on either the Wii OR the DS. Do you have an exact quote? Did those exact words come out of Sakaguchi's mouth or was it a guess on the part of the reporter/translator?

.

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Mr. Pointy
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(11-21-2006, 08:43 AM)
 
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#94

Famitsu - a weaker sauce than Jeremy Parish.
ethelred
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(11-21-2006, 08:44 AM)
 
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#95

Originally Posted by :enemyglider::
No. I just disputed that it would be on the Wii. You said it would be on either the Wii OR the DS. Do you have an exact quote? Did those exact words come out of Sakaguchi's mouth or was it a guess on the part of the reporter/translator?

So far I'm the only one in this exchange who's shown anything other than BS speculation.


Uh... he's the one translating the words of the people reading the goddamned magazine. Why don't you chill with accusations of BS speculation unless you can go on 2ch and read the ****ing Famitsu stuff yourself to dispute him, okay?
Fio
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(11-21-2006, 08:46 AM)
 
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#96

No Wii Sports review ?
duckroll
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(11-21-2006, 08:47 AM)
 
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#97

Here's what we'll do to prevent this thread from derailing because of stupid misunderstandings. I will retract that you are factually wrong and we will wait until the interview is scanned to debate this any further.

Edit: But I *should* point out that Mistwalker is by no means a MS second-party, because Cry-On is being published by AQ Interactive and ASH is being published by Nintendo. Considering the various crap that Murayama has said over the period he was in charge, it's very hard to believe any "contracts" or "agreements" he promised in interviews which did not have official press releases. His word in a casual interview using vague terms like "special agreement" is about as trust-worthy as toilet paper. This is why MS removed him. It wasn't just because of one or two small incidents.

Last edited by duckroll : 11-21-2006 at 08:51 AM.
:enemyglider:
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(11-21-2006, 08:49 AM)
 
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#98

Originally Posted by ethelred:
Uh... he's the one translating the words of the people reading the goddamned magazine. Why don't you chill with accusations of BS speculation unless you can go on 2ch and read the ****ing Famitsu stuff yourself to dispute him, okay?

I'm just asking if the quote came directly from Sakaguchi or if it came from speculation on the part of the reporter or the people reading the goddamned magazine.

Please excuse my apparent insolence but the grapevine is usually a poor source for information.

Last edited by :enemyglider: : 11-21-2006 at 08:53 AM.
flipping_heck
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PR purposes and all that.
(11-21-2006, 08:49 AM)
 
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#99

Too hard? TOO HARD?!

Famitsu are wusses!!
Blimblim
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(11-21-2006, 08:52 AM)
 
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#100

Originally Posted by duckroll:
Edit: But I *should* point out that Mistwalker is by no means a MS second-party, because Cry-On is being published by AQ Interactive and ASH is being published by Nintendo. Considering the various crap that Murayama has said over the period he was in charge, it's very hard to believe any "contracts" or "agreements" he promised in interviews which did not have official press releases. His word in a casual interview using vague terms like "special agreement" is about as trust-worthy as toilet paper. This is why MS removed him. It wasn't just because of one or two small incidents.
Well, they also removed him because the 360 launch in Japan was a complete disaster ;)
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