[llTll]

thanks neo!! looks awesome!! really ****ing awesome!! :D this game is going to be amazing :) you have to understand the only reason they've done this is to piss YOU off.

:lol

not pissed off or anything.

but i know in fighting games, usually graphics are the best over an action game for example.

and Wii can do much more than this. way much more. thats the reason i made my post.

if i am ok with this, then lets accept super nintendo graphics on Wii for full priced game. or lets accept playstation 1 game on ps3 as full priced game. :/

[Jacobi]

They should remake whole or at least partial games like Super Mario Land and stuff like that for the solo-modus, but it's Nintendo it won't happen...

[LCGeek]

Since its release back in 2002, i play this game every few weeks with my friends and brothers. Thats now over 4 years. I dont think any other game has such durability.

Counter Strike released in 99 as beta retail 2000 and is still the most played Multiplayer FPS game ever.

[Cosmonaut X]

if i am ok with this, then lets accept super nintendo graphics on Wii for full priced game. or lets accept playstation 1 game on ps3 as full priced game. :/

Yes, because accepting the clearly improved graphics of SSBB is no different from those situations... (where's my ****ing rolleyes icon?)

[fresquito]

Play with two-three friends for an hour, stock 3, stage by stage, it'll change your mind.

I always play time 3 minutes. This way everyone plays the same time :)

Edit, am I the only one having problems (not) seeing the video?

[Luckett_X]

The freeware fan-made MarioWar game I find to be far more intense and better than Smash Brothers. I'd love to see it sort of absorbed into Brawl, a sort of fast paced "Jump on heads" mode.

[llTll]

Yes, because accepting the clearly improved graphics of SSBB is no different from those situations... (where's my ****ing rolleyes icon?)

improved? yeah i think so. not much but yup. its improved alright.

however. this doesnt even push 10% of the Wii power assuming Wii is as powerful as xbox 1 if not more.

[Lunney]

No comments on the new name?

I like it.

Edit: i was wondering why no one had mentioned that fact that the game had got a name change to smash bros. dojo, then i realised thats the name of the site...

[Bo130]

No comments on the new name?

You're refering to Brawl?

[Sanjuro]

WiFi Connection and more surprise characters are must.

[Wii]

I always play time 3 minutes. This way everyone plays the same time :) Edit, am I the only one having problems (not) seeing the video?

I don't like time, you can't tell who's ahead until the match is over.

[fresquito]

improved? yeah i think so. not much but yup. its improved alright. however. this doesnt even push 10% of the Wii power assuming Wii is as powerful as xbox 1 if not more.

:lol

I don't like time, you can't tell who's ahead until the match is over.

You can once you unlock the option :)

[Wii]

You can once you unlock the option :)

I have the option unlocked, but I think it's broken in PAL copies cause it doesn't show up :S

[SantaC]

improved? yeah i think so. not much but yup. its improved alright. however. this doesnt even push 10% of the Wii power assuming Wii is as powerful as xbox 1 if not more.

give it up. The series has never been about the graphics or fur shading. It's been about the fun shading.

[Zoramon089]

improved? yeah i think so. not much but yup. its improved alright. however. this doesnt even push 10% of the Wii power assuming Wii is as powerful as xbox 1 if not more.

We get it, you're pissed because Fox doesn't have fur despite you claiming he had it in the first game. The graphics are undeniably better and this easily proves the Wii is stronger than the Xbox. Show me an Xbox game with similar looking graphics that runs a smooth 60fps. If there are some there aren't many, and considering that in Smash there are 4 high poly models while in most games only the main character has a decent model this makes it even clearer this is above Xbox

[Neomoto]

No comments on the new name? I like it. Edit: i was wondering why no one had mentioned that fact that the game had got a name change to smash bros. dojo, then i realised thats the name of the site...

I believe that is the Japanse name for SSBBrawl.

Btw, Brawl looks exceptionally better than Melee.. but whatever.

[fresquito]

What's with that video. It says it requires Flash Player 8, and I have 9, can't I play the video with a newer version or what?

I have the option unlocked, but I think it's broken in PAL copies cause it doesn't show up :S

Erms, that's odd, since I have the PAL version and works just fine. A number appears beside your avatar. You have to turn it on in the options menu.

[Cdammen]

Fox McCloud from the NDS Command game looks great, love that artstyle :)

[Bo130]

I believe that is the Japanse name for SSBBrawl.

It's just the name of the site. The game is called Dairantou Smash Brothers X (大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズX) in Japan.

[Dr.Hadji]

The freeware fan-made MarioWar game I find to be far more intense and better than Smash Brothers. I'd love to see it sort of absorbed into Brawl, a sort of fast paced "Jump on heads" mode.

Hahah, Mario War is so broken. Screw that noise.

[llTll]

We get it, you're pissed because Fox doesn't have fur despite you claiming he had it in the first game. The graphics are undeniably better and this easily proves the Wii is stronger than the Xbox. Show me an Xbox game with similar looking graphics that runs a smooth 60fps. If there are some there aren't many, and considering that in Smash there are 4 high poly models while in most games only the main character has a decent model this makes it even clearer this is above Xbox

please dont bring the xbox or whatever console to this. i am not planing to get into fight.

and i didnt claim the orginal game on GC had fur. i said last gen consoles used to have fur [ aka conker or whatever its name on xbox 1. and that wasnt even a fighting game ] so at least, i would expect this much on improved system like Wii

but you know what. i would rather burn my self rather than arguing with nintendo fanboys. i made my comment. and i am out of this thread.

peace

[moku]

please dont bring the xbox or whatever console to this. i am not planing to get into fight. and i didnt claim the orginal game on GC had fur. i said last gen consoles used to have fur [ aka conker or whatever its name on xbox 1. and that wasnt even a fighting game ] so at least, i would expect this much on improved system like Wii but you know what. i would rather burn my self rather than arguing with nintendo fanboys. i made my comment. and i am out of this thread. peace

AND THERE IT IS. "I made a bad point, and now that it has been thrown back in my face, I will resort to ol' faithfull"


It has to be Nintendo fanboys. There is no way it could possibly be that the graphics are better then the previous game, and it runs at 60fps.

FFS.

[Neomoto]

It's just the name of the site. The game is called Dairantou Smash Brothers X (大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズX) in Japan.

Ah I see, thanks. I thought it was the name for both the game and the site (which would thus have the same name as the game). But I was wrong :)

[MaddenNFL64]

If Nintendo is going to reveal more characters with every trailer, I expect alot of trailers :P.

[yilmazz]

Nice ass!

[NeonZ]

but i know in fighting games, usually graphics are the best over an action game for example.

Fighting games don't have better graphics only because they're fighting games. There are only two playable characters and generally there isn't anything else big going besides the battle and some background animation. SSBM supported up to 6 simultaneous fighters(only 1P in some special stages. In multiplayer and in most single player battles, there were only up to four at a time), and then there were the items and the background animation.

Also, SSBM's camera usually stays at a much bigger distance from the action than most fighting game's. SSBM can hardly be compared to a fighting game as far as system resources go. Potentially, there's too much going on.

Regarding Brawl, so far, I'm just happy they don't seem to be reusing any N64 assets.

[ghst]

I think i will never understand the hype for this game... Played SSBM and i was bored really fast.

Yeh seriously, and how about that Fzero framerate? Choppy as hell.

[Dynamite Shikoku]

DK is in this game...right?

[FoxHimself]

DK is in this game...right?

No. These are the only playable characters in the game. Mmmmhmmm.

But why did Nintendo change the awesome Trailer 1 music into this shitty midi version? Does Nintendo have a fetish for midi?

[SovanJedi]

I'm scared about the lack of characters being shown and that they'll go back on the rumoured 40-character number.

Unless they're going to be making half of them secret, which would just be dumb.

[Dynamite Shikoku]

There better be 40 characters

[Mr. Pointy]

I'm scared about the lack of characters being shown and that they'll go back on the rumoured 40-character number. Unless they're going to be making half of them secret, which would just be dumb.

They made nearly half of the SSBM character secret. They'll probably do the same here. I'm thinking Nintendo will show off the characters available at the start (say 15-20 characters), then Famitsu will get an exclusive on the unlockables.

[Ashodin]

There better be downloadable characters

[Flakster99]

Online multiplaying will own. Wario for the ****ing win!

[Dynamite Shikoku]

There better be FREE downloadable characters

fixed

[Neomoto]

I'm scared about the lack of characters being shown and that they'll go back on the rumoured 40-character number. Unless they're going to be making half of them secret, which would just be dumb.

Well, they did show 5 new characters in the very first trailer.. (namely Snake, Pit, Zero Suit Samus, Meta Knight and Wario).

I wonder why they haven't showed some other characters already. Donkey Kong, Luigi etc. I hope a lot of the "old" crew will be shown in the next trailer, along with a couple surprises (new characters).

[Ashodin]

There better be payable downloadable characters

refixed

[wsippel]

But why did Nintendo change the awesome Trailer 1 music into this shitty midi version? Does Nintendo have a fetish for midi?

Both versions are "MIDI" I think - this one is only a different arrangement. There's absolutely nothing wrong with MIDI, it's the standard for music production. It's also very flexible and very well suited for games, as it allows for certain effects simply not possible with pre-recorded music - dynamic, randomized or content dependent rearrangements for example. Too bad that such effects are rarely used...

[NeonZ]

I'm scared about the lack of characters being shown and that they'll go back on the rumoured 40-character number. Unless they're going to be making half of them secret, which would just be dumb.

It wouldn't be too strange. SSBM had 26 playable characters but only the 14 starters were revealed before the game's launch, and they even kept the Zelda half of the Zelda/Sheik character hidden until close to the launch.

More than half of the stages (the second stage of each series + the secret ones) also were kind of "hidden" until close to the game's launch date, even the default ones, (there were a few scenes of them shown in the trailers, but they didn't appear in any official lists or playable demos).

[Ashodin]

If someone's favorite character is taken out of SSBB, someone's gonna bitch.

If wavedashing is gone, a lot of people are going to bitch.

Basically, SSBM was perfect for some people, and SSBB will **** that up for them, and they'll whine. Whoo, can't wait for THAT thread...

[Wii]

Right now, I'm more interested in WHEN we'll see a new trailer, rather than WHAT's in it.

[viper60782]

has it been mentioned yet how the game will be controlled? I'm think GC controller would be best...

[Mithos Yggdrasill]

There is definitely a step between the graphics of the GCN and the Wii version.

[Vaandaviii]

Better comparison pictures... That actually compare similar things... MARIO LINK KIRBY PIKACHU FOX SWORD FLASH POKEMON STADIUM MARIO FIREBALL

And this is supposed to be a 5-years-leap (Feb 2001 for SMBM if I remember well...) in computing power and programming abilities? Thit shit is just unjustifiable, for God's shake. Nintendo is aiming for the weakest visual improvement ever made between two generations of consoles. And people even dare to consider it as something positive.

[woxel1]

has it been mentioned yet how the game will be controlled? I'm think GC controller would be best...

So do the developers.

[guise]

For the love of God, people are STILL complaining about graphics on the Wii.

Do us all a favour, and shut the hell up. Everyone else has accepted the fact its graphically less powerful. Just live with it and enjoy the damn games you whinge babies.

[Pureauthor]

And this is supposed to be a 5-years-leap (Feb 2001 for SMBM if I remember well...) in computing power and programming abilities? Thit shit is just unjustifiable, for God's shake. Nintendo is aiming for the weakest visual improvement ever made between two generations of consoles. And people even dare to consider it as something positive.

No one considers it a positive. (Well, we might have had Nintendo not screwed over the pricing). But if you're only complaining about it now, it's time for you to hurry up and join November 2006 like the rest of us.

[Mithos Yggdrasill]

Is it possible to have the trailer in .avi or .mpeg or .mp4 or .wmv ? Thanks !!

[FoxHimself]

Both versions are "MIDI" I think

Listen to this and tell me it's MIDI: http://www.smashbros.com/en/music/mp3/main_theme.mp3

The page also tells us this:

The main theme was created for us by none other than famed Final Fantasy composer, Nobuo Uematsu! Additionally, opera singer Ken Nishikiori has also participated in this project on vocals. ...And as a special service to readers of this site, I can say that the game's music will be performed by a full orchestra. It will be a deluxe chorus complete with lyrics in Latin. It's of a slightly different disposition than previous Smash Bros. games, wouldn't you say?

[wsippel]

And this is supposed to be a 5-years-leap (Feb 2001 for SMBM if I remember well...) in computing power and programming abilities? Thit shit is just unjustifiable, for God's shake. Nintendo is aiming for the weakest visual improvement ever made between two generations of consoles. And people even dare to consider it as something positive.

What did you expect? Bump mapped scars on Marios face? Gears of Mario?