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I talked to Reggie today about VC, GoldenEye, Nunchuk bundles, Update Post #203
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NintendosBooger said:
360 Launch:
Perfect Dark Zero
Kameo
Project Gotham Racing 3
August:
Ninety Nine Nights
November:
Gears of War
Viva Pinata
. . . I think that about covers it.
Nintendo is not doing a bad job, if the lineup posted above comes out in the next year.
I hope 3rd party support is a bit better than it was on GC though!
I'm highly anticipating Tiger Woods on the Wii. Anyway, I don't get this. The Wii's lineup for next year looks fantastic to me. I don't have a hell of a lot of time to play anyway, so more than 3 big releases (SSBB, SMG, and MP3) will kill me... not to mention Tiger Woods.Hero said:
jwj442 said:
I agree, For first party only the first year of Wii looks pretty good, especially if games like Disaster, BWii, etc. turn out to be surprise hits.
I'd also expect there to be a few more added to the lists posted here. Things like Wii Motorsports hasn't been mentioned, and it's looking like they shifted everything that was in development for GC onto Wii earlier this year. Add to that the fact that the Wii seems to be getting much better 3rd party support than the GC did, just EA and Ubi alone fill the line-up out quite nicely. Also did I see Heroes pencilled in for a mid 2007 release?
WRT VC, yeah it sucks that they are staggering things out but it makes sense for them, and as the saying goes Nintendo are not your friend
I just hope that we'll see some of the unannounced new VC stuff, and that third parties get in on the act quicker as I'm assuming they don't have to space things out according to Nintendo's line-up.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
So who had the bright idea to install this guy as President of NOA?
They better ****ing be doing something like translating Fire Emblem III. Because at this rate, I'm going to ****ing sell this NTSC US Wii and get a Japanese one. Because it'll actually have worthwhile ****ing VC games to download, not to mention a better release schedule? Having to wait till next year for Wii Play and WarioWare? **** THAT SHIT.
One to five a week?
And I had the nerve to tell Ethelred that the US VC would pick up quickly at ten titles a week.
Jesus, NOA. First Zelda, now this crap. You really don't want us to give you money, do you?
They better ****ing be doing something like translating Fire Emblem III. Because at this rate, I'm going to ****ing sell this NTSC US Wii and get a Japanese one. Because it'll actually have worthwhile ****ing VC games to download, not to mention a better release schedule? Having to wait till next year for Wii Play and WarioWare? **** THAT SHIT.
One to five a week?
And I had the nerve to tell Ethelred that the US VC would pick up quickly at ten titles a week.
Jesus, NOA. First Zelda, now this crap. You really don't want us to give you money, do you?
yeah Reggie has totally ruined the North American VC. I'm definately getting a Japanese Wii as soon as I can afford one (if only for FE/DQ/Shiren VC games + Japan-only Wii releases).
Why they don't plan on allowing you to shop at any region you want is beyond me. It's nothing but pure profit for all businesses involved.
Making the system region coded in a generation where the competitors aren't region coded is pretty ****ing stupid.
Why they don't plan on allowing you to shop at any region you want is beyond me. It's nothing but pure profit for all businesses involved.
Making the system region coded in a generation where the competitors aren't region coded is pretty ****ing stupid.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Pellham said:
Not to ****ing mention that they originally hinted we'd be able to get around the region thing (like with iTunes or even the ****ing PSN and LIVE networks).
At least I'll be able to play GOOD games SOONER, like NCL was promising us.
QuickKick89
Banned
Dragona Akehi said:
I don't think I even need to say the proper response to this rant...but I will anyway.
Not my problem!
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Jacobi said:
Import and you didn't have to deal with it, and I'd rather not be something I'm not.
Seriously, where's the firmware hack for this thing? Nintendo always made it relatively easy to circumvent the region coding.
bigmakstudios
Banned
Yeah... I mean... think about the pace they're going at right now with VC releases...
If they release... 3 games a week, it would take... like...
*does calculations*
Around 6-7 years to release 1000 games. >_> That isn't good.
If I can remember correctly Nintendo had a hand at the development of Goldeneye.
I swear I can remember Shigeru Miyamoto being involved somehow in the development, as small as it may have been, his name was in the credits of the game was it not? as well as the debuggers Super Mario Club and Nintendo producer Kenji Miki etc?
I swear I can remember Shigeru Miyamoto being involved somehow in the development, as small as it may have been, his name was in the credits of the game was it not? as well as the debuggers Super Mario Club and Nintendo producer Kenji Miki etc?
soundwave05
Member
LOL ... if anything Reggie is going to get a raise at year end. The Wii launch from a business P.O.V. has been more successful than Nintendo could've hoped and the PR wave Nintendo is riding it their largest since maybe the NES era. The system is arguably *the* hottest item this Christmas, which considering Nintendo couldn't even give away GameCubes last year, is quite a remarkable turn around.
Also I would not neccessarily assume Reggie gets final say on content availibility for the VC. Rolling out the games slowly smells like NCL all over.
Also I would not neccessarily assume Reggie gets final say on content availibility for the VC. Rolling out the games slowly smells like NCL all over.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
soundwave05 said:
Except for the fact that NCL is giving people twice as many games from the ****ing get go.
Honestly, Fils-Aimes is acting as if holding back Super Mario World, Castlevania and Link to the Past will somehow get everyone to buy a copy of Mario Bros.
Mario ****ing Bros.
pol's voice
Banned
I could give a crap about the VC games, if I want to play Ice Hockey I'll put it in my NES, if I want to play Shining Force 2 I'll plug it into my Genny, etc.
I already paid 60 dollars for Super Metroid. No need to pay another 8-10 dollars for it again, even if it is worth it.
The only reason I would care much about VC games is if some obscure titles like Dracula X (Turbo not SNES version)popped up on it. Which I know won't happen, because the VC isn't going to be aimed at the obscure. As it stands the VC is a nice bonus feature, and I can understand why some people would be all about it. If you weren't around during the heyday of these games and missed playing them, or sold all your old games long ago, the VC is nice. As it stands I already have all these old systems and games so the VC is pretty meaningless to me.
However I don't understand Nintendo's attitude towards releases, you'd think more would equal better, especially in the case of first party games. It can't be costing Nintendo much at all to stick all their old first party NES, SNES, and n64 games on there, and the more that are available the more will sell.
I already paid 60 dollars for Super Metroid. No need to pay another 8-10 dollars for it again, even if it is worth it.
The only reason I would care much about VC games is if some obscure titles like Dracula X (Turbo not SNES version)popped up on it. Which I know won't happen, because the VC isn't going to be aimed at the obscure. As it stands the VC is a nice bonus feature, and I can understand why some people would be all about it. If you weren't around during the heyday of these games and missed playing them, or sold all your old games long ago, the VC is nice. As it stands I already have all these old systems and games so the VC is pretty meaningless to me.
However I don't understand Nintendo's attitude towards releases, you'd think more would equal better, especially in the case of first party games. It can't be costing Nintendo much at all to stick all their old first party NES, SNES, and n64 games on there, and the more that are available the more will sell.
soundwave05
Member
Dragona Akehi said:
Nintendo still tends to favor Japan with content. Business wise I think Nintendo has made a concerned effort to give Western 3rd parties space and I think this also applies to the VC situation.
Things like Red Steel and VC titles like Bonk are not going to get the sales if Nintendo went full-on with their releases. And I really think, if push came to shove, Nintendo could have had both Super Paper Mario and Metroid Prime 3 ready for launch and a shit-ton more VC content too.
Japan the situation is different, there isn't as much 3rd party content upfront, so more VC content there can help Nintendo until they get their releases going there.
pol's voice
Banned
jwj442 said:
Obviously there's going to be some lesser known games on there, but the more well known titles are going to get priority over the obscure classics because Nintendo knows they will sell better.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Hero said:
Every other Nintendo system made it simple to play imported games. Wii shouldn't be any different.
Why do you even keep your Wii, anyway? Have you even tried to play Zelda recently? I might know a few people who could give your Wii a loving home if you don't want it.
Trauma Centre is more than enough reason to keep it. However, if a firmware/region coding hack doesn't surface soon, I'll be trading the US Wii for a Japanese one.
As for Zelda, I'm guessing I will have to wait for the GC version, unless NCL/NOA/NOE suddenly gets a bunch of calls complaining, and releases a left hand mode through mail-order.
Gigglepoo said:
I found the credits, some interesting Nintendo people (in bold) involved:
Credits
Produced by Martin Hollis
Directed by Martin Hollis
Director of Photography Mark Edmonds
Original Screenplay David Doak
Scenic Art Director Karl Hilton
Production Designer Duncan Botwood
Costume Designer B Jones
2nd‑Unit Director Stephen Ellis
Original Music Graeme Norgate, Grant Kirkhope
Sound Effects Graeme Norgate
Production Manager Simon Farmer
System Support Paul Mikell
Additional Graphics Adrian Smith
Sound System and Tools Graham Smith
Elevator Music by Robin Beanland
Rare Testers Huw Ward, Gary Richards, Gavin Hood, Jamie Williams, Gareth Jones, Martin Penny, David Wong, Stephen Stamper
Rare US Staff Eileen Hochberg, Scott Hochberg, Jerry Rogowski
NOA Treehouse Staff Ken Lobb, Rich Richardson, Henry C. Sterchi, Erich Waas, Armond Williams
NOA Testing Michael Kelbaugh, Tim Bechtel, David C. Bridgham, Kirk Buchanan, Kyle Carlson, Chris Dolan, Melvin Forrest, Thomas Hertzog, Sam Hosier III, Robert Johnson, Arnold Myers II, Chris Needham, Sara Osborne, Christian Phillips, Edward A. Ridgeway, Benjamin Smith, Sharon Evans, William Giese, Sam Kujath, Jim Holdeman, David Hunziker, The Q Branch XVI
NCL Staff Keisuke Terasaki, Eiji Onozuka, Masashi Goto
Special Thanks Minoru Arakawa, Howard Lincoln, Mike Fukuda, Joel Hochberg, Tim Stamper, Chris Stamper, NCL, Super Mario Club
Nintendo Producer Kenji Miki
Executive Producer Hiroshi Yamauchi < Although he would never do a thing.
pol's voice
Banned
Region coding was simple enough to bypass on the Cube, so there's no reason to believe that it won't be simple on the Wii.
With all the cool stuff that's bound to be Japan only on the Wii, I'm sure there's already a few companies hard at work on the problem.
With all the cool stuff that's bound to be Japan only on the Wii, I'm sure there's already a few companies hard at work on the problem.
pol's voice said:
yeah, you can use freeloader to get around it, but that's still lame. I'd rather just get a Japanese system than have to go through the effort of disc swapping every time. Well okay I wouldn't import just beacuse of that, its the Japan-only VC games that are enticing me.
pol's voice
Banned
I agree that the VC situation is silly. No reason for those games not to be released for the NA VC as well.
PjotrStroganov
Member
pol's voice said:
Online service will prevent this.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Pellham said:
I'm hoping for a jumper solder, like with the GC. And some sort of firmware hack where you can load up whichever version you want.
pol's voice
Banned
Cyan said:
So Donkey Kong and Mario Bros. are obscure titles now?
The only two games remotely obscure on that list are Wario's Woods and Solomon's Key.
My point was I don't think they are pushing the VC as a haven for obscure games. I'd love to be wrong though.
ferrarimanf355
Banned
Just a suggestion, but someone should make a inspirational poster photoshop about that!QuickKick89 said:I don't think I even need to say the proper response to this rant...but I will anyway.
Not my problem!
And also, it sounds like you guys are saying...
...over the VC. I'm just sayin'.
bigmakstudios said:
There IS a drought next year already, at least in terms of Ninty-published games. Only three games -- and all three are minigame compilations -- in the first three months of 2007? Right after the system just launched?
The rest of 2007 may have a lot of quality games, but how can this kind of lineup for the system's first full quarter on the market be encouraging to anyone?
Dragona Akehi said:
Yes. I blame this on YOU.
Dragona lied to me.
We all knew Nintendo would use Virtual Console games to pad out the quiet months, but Reggie shouldn't say stuff like that out loud. :lol I don't think there will be as many gaps as the GameCube though. There will be more 3rd party titles.
And screw Goldeneye, where's my Blast Corps?! That and Pilotwings 64 are pretty much the only reason my N64's still taking up space in my cupboard.
And screw Goldeneye, where's my Blast Corps?! That and Pilotwings 64 are pretty much the only reason my N64's still taking up space in my cupboard.
Dragona Akehi said:
Oh, I know this. In fact, the Gamecube mod was probably the easiest console to do. All one had to do was it open it up and use a piece of electrical wire to connect two circuits to a switch to make a toggle on/off for North America / Japan. I would suspect the Wii would be similarily easy, however I'm not about to go taking it apart just yet. I would love to be able to do this with my Wii, as I want to get the new Naruto:GNT EX game that's coming out.
Trauma Centre is more than enough reason to keep it. However, if a firmware/region coding hack doesn't surface soon, I'll be trading the US Wii for a Japanese one.
As for Zelda, I'm guessing I will have to wait for the GC version, unless NCL/NOA/NOE suddenly gets a bunch of calls complaining, and releases a left hand mode through mail-order.
Edit:
Slightly unrelated, but I think the reason Wii didn't have 1 million units for launch in North America is for Nintendo to allocate even more units to Japan, since their best chance is to get away ahead of PS3 before production stops being an issue. If this were the case, I imagine the Wii conversion from USA to JPN or vice versa would be relatively easy.
Trauma Center, you mean?
How do you define 'soon?' I'm sure a Freeloader type Disc will be coming out within the year, and probably a hardware mod even sooner than that.buhmachine said:while this may be bad, I think you might get deported for partaking in such an unAmerican activity as playing and enjoying Earthbound, so who's got it worse????
I think Goldeneye would make for an excellent Wiimake instead of ending up in VC hell, but only once developers start working out the FPS kinks on the Wii. Its level design lends itself to the Wiimote, and the game would be way funner if you could actually, you know, aim. That's an impossible dream though; this is the only time that I'm disappointed with Microsoft owning Rare. (Rare sucks.) If there's any game due for a remake, it's Goldeneye.
what the ****, I love Earthbound and I hate anime, manga, hentai, and just about all japanese related paraphenilia with a passion. I like Earthbound becuase its different than Generic JRPG set in the medieval times with elves wizards trolls orcs and mages #34342332234
JoshuaJSlone
Member
You must be misremembering. Here are Goldeneye's credits. Miyamoto isn't in there, but as with any Nintendo-published game there are Nintendo producers, executive producers, testers. No Miyamoto in 007, though.Gigglepoo said:
Are we really sure of that, though? The US list we now think of as the "before end of year" list we once thought was the launch day list.Dragona Akehi said:
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
I wanna start off by saying that I really enjoy your MTV articles...
But I have to say, coming from someone heavily involved in internet marketing and SEO in particular, the newly redesigned MTV website is pure SHIT.
It's utter crap, from a design perspective, from a user experience perspective, and from a SEO/marketing angle.
Seriously, woa. Who designed that crap?
But I have to say, coming from someone heavily involved in internet marketing and SEO in particular, the newly redesigned MTV website is pure SHIT.
It's utter crap, from a design perspective, from a user experience perspective, and from a SEO/marketing angle.
Seriously, woa. Who designed that crap?
Kobun Heat
Member
I agree with this, by the way. The reason I'm harping on the relatively minor issue of Virtual Console lineups is in part because everything else has been shockingly well-executed.soundwave05 said:
In part, considering they're far from doing a catalog dump in Japan either. But then, why are they getting nearly three times the number of day-one titles we are and about ten times the major hits?