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GravityInsanity
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(01-04-2017, 10:36 PM)
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I found some interesting news regarding who Kratos's son might be. This is a big "MIGHT" so don't take it as true. His son might be Tyr or Tiwaz.

http://runesecrets.com/rune-meanings/tiwaz

Tiwaz – “Tea-waz” – Literally: “The god, Tyr” – Esoteric: Justice, Sacrifice

Rune of the balance and justice ruled from a higher rationality. The rune of sacrifice of the individual (self) for well-being of the whole (society).

Psi: spiritual warrior, honour, righteousness

Energy: sovereign order, sacrifice, right decision making

Mundane: the rule of law, fairness, peace keeping

Divinations: faith, loyalty, justice, rationality, self-sacrifice, analysis, victory, honesty, even-handedness; or mental paralysis, over analysis, over-sacrifice, injustice, imbalance, defeat, tyranny.

The boy has a Tyr symbol on his arm clear as day.

You can see others runes that reads "Strong Arm".

The rune can be seen again as a icon during gameplay. It's probably the icon you can command him to do certain things.
There’s a single button dedicated to your son, and its use depends on the context. He becomes an active participant in combat, traversal, exploration, and puzzle-solving.




Tyr was the Norse God of War who's arm was bitten off by Fenrir.
http://norse-mythology.org/gods-and-...goddesses/tyr/

The dreadful wolf Fenrir was only a pup, but he was growing quickly. The gods feared for their lives, so they endeavored to tie up Fenrir in fetters from which he couldn’t escape. When Fenrir laid eyes on the chain that would eventually bind him, he was suspicious, and declared that he would only allow the gods to put it around him if one of them would stick an arm in his mouth as a pledge of good faith. Only Tyr was willing to do so. When the wolf found himself unable to break free, he bit off Tyr’s arm.



If Tyr is the son of Kratos then that would have to make Kratos Hymir the father of Tyr because I don't see Kratos being Odin in this world.

http://www.germanicmythology.com/ori...anded_who.html

We find two seemingly conflicting statements in the lore regarding the parentage of Tr, the one-handed god. In the Prose Edda, Snorri Sturluson informs us that Tyr is the son of Odin, while in the Eddic poem Hymiskvia, we are told that Tyr is the son of the giant Hymir.

Now in the end Kratos's son might not be Tyr at all but why does his son has a Tyr rune on his arm and it's present on the screen as a icon in gameplay? What connection does his son have with Tyr if he is not him?

Could it be him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPNLuUUqixc at 22:43
Special thanks to Ilyas
Last edited by GravityInsanity; 01-04-2017 at 11:04 PM.
brawly
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(01-04-2017, 10:38 PM)
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Oh man, I just got excited again for this.
Lights and Waves
(01-04-2017, 10:38 PM)
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Great investigation. I wish this game wasn't related to God of War.
John Kowalski
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(01-04-2017, 10:38 PM)
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Damn, this game will literally be about telling your kid who to kill.
Kenzodielocke
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(01-04-2017, 10:38 PM)
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I always thought this was Ullr, step son of Thor and Sif.


ReaperXL7
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(01-04-2017, 10:39 PM)
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I figured he would be Thor because of the Lightning powers.
Chuck
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(01-04-2017, 10:39 PM)
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Guess it'll come out on a Tuesday, then.
Blackleg-sanji1
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(01-04-2017, 10:40 PM)
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I love when gaming communities does stuff like this. Just got me more excited too
orochi91
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(01-04-2017, 10:40 PM)

Originally Posted by ReaperXL7

I figured he would be Thor because of the Lightning powers.

That would have been a great twist, lol

Thor, raised by Kratos.
BlackBuzzard
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(01-04-2017, 10:40 PM)
Wow that detective work by OP, bravo/

Have we hit the 15million views yet on the trailer? I remember them promising new info if we hit it.
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(01-04-2017, 10:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by ReaperXL7

I figured he would be Thor because of the Lightning powers.

God of War: Dark World
Pejo
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(01-04-2017, 10:41 PM)
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I still don't like the idea of "press X to son", but I'm waiting and giving it the benefit of the doubt until more gameplay is out.
More_Badass
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(01-04-2017, 10:41 PM)
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So...giant wolf boss battle in God of War?
Toni
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(01-04-2017, 10:41 PM)

Originally Posted by ReaperXL7

I figured he would be Thor because of the Lightning powers.

Omg

Now I want this to happen lol
ActWan
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(01-04-2017, 10:41 PM)
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It makes sense.
And I don't think Kratos is his biological father.
oti xero
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(01-04-2017, 10:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Blackleg-sanji1

I love when gaming communities does stuff like this. Just got me more excited too

I love it when games are detailed enough to offer depth like this. That's why I used to love the modern Assassin's Creed plot so much until Ubisoft decided to drive that into the ground in a spectacular fashion.
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(01-04-2017, 10:42 PM)
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Great work OP.
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(01-04-2017, 10:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by More_Badass

So...giant wolf boss battle in God of War?

You'd have probably got one regardless tbh
Timeaisis
(01-04-2017, 10:43 PM)
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OK, but who is Vidar.
GravityInsanity
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(01-04-2017, 10:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by More_Badass

So...giant wolf boss battle in God of War?

It might not happen in the first game of this Norse trilogy because his arm was bittin off as an adult. So maybe in the third game when he's fully grown? Or maybe Cory will tell a different story.
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(01-04-2017, 10:44 PM)
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This is why I love GAF. Awesome work OP.
NinjamicWZ
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(01-04-2017, 10:45 PM)
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I wish Kratos was my dad.
FusedAtoms
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Originally Posted by Lights and Waves

Great investigation. I wish this game wasn't related to God of War.

In what way specifically? Everything about this game seems like a complete refresh for the series. Is it just the name? I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just curious.

Edit: I should probably add something on topic. That's really cool nice work, that would also work for setting up the kid as a protagonist in the future if they want to go down that route.
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According to Wikipedia:

In the late Icelandic Eddas, Tr is portrayed, alternately, as the son of Odin (Prose Edda) or of Hymir (Poetic Edda), while the origins of his name and his possible relationship to Tuisto (see Tacitus' Germania) suggest he was once considered the father of the gods and head of the pantheon, since his name is ultimately cognate to that of *Dyeus (cf. Dyaus), the reconstructed chief deity in Indo-European religion. It is assumed that Twaz was overtaken in popularity and in authority by both Odin and Thor at some point during the Migration Age, as Odin shares his role as God of war.[citation needed]
Tr is a god of war and will take mead, meat and blood for sacrifice. If a warrior carved the rune Twaz on his weapon he would be dedicating it to Tr and strengthen the outcome of a battle to be in his favor. Tiw was equated with Mars in the interpretatio germanica. Tuesday is in fact "Tīw's Day" (also in Alemannic Zischtig from zes tag), translating dies Martis.

So Kratos could feasibly be either Odin or Hymir. Both him and Odin are seen as gods of war in Norse mythology too.
wildfire
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(01-04-2017, 10:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by John Kowalski

Damn, this game will literally be about telling your kid who to kill.

Too many games we grew up with were murder simulators. It makes sense that this dovetails with are maturing desensibilities and responsibilities. :p
Kilau
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(01-04-2017, 10:46 PM)
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Armstrong ;)
LelouchZero
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Eh? For some reason I thought he was his son to begin with.

Hmm I need to brush up on my God Of War knowledge, is this a reboot by any means?
Kenzodielocke
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(01-04-2017, 10:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by LelouchZero

Eh? For some reason I thought he was his son to begin with.

Hmm I need to brush up on my God Of War knowledge, is this a reboot by any means?

No, Kratos just moved and got a son. Wife probably dead.
UnluckyKate
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(01-04-2017, 10:48 PM)
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Pease be better at command than TLG
BlackBuzzard
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(01-04-2017, 10:49 PM)
14.8M views 200K to go guys.
Pacotez
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(01-04-2017, 10:49 PM)
I think the icon rune is just an arrow icon. Everything else seems alright to me
brawly
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(01-04-2017, 10:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by UnluckyKate

Pease be better at command than TLG

Did you mash buttons by any chance?
ryseing
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(01-04-2017, 10:51 PM)
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Better and more interesting question is who the mother is IMO, as it wouldn't shock me if that played a central role in the game.

She has to be divine right? I can't see Kratos fathering a child with a mortal woman.
friz898
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(01-04-2017, 10:51 PM)

Originally Posted by NinjamicWZ

I wish Kratos was my dad.

I know right?
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(01-04-2017, 10:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by GravityInsanity

It might not happen in the first game of this Norse trilogy because his arm was bittin off as an adult. So maybe in the third game when he's fully grown? Or maybe Cory will tell a different story.

They're probably gonna go the Last of Us route and kill off Kratos in the prologue.
brawly
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(01-04-2017, 10:52 PM)
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I hope it's his biological son. It makes the historical fuckery even more fun.
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(01-04-2017, 10:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by UnluckyKate

Pease be better at command than TLG

Please be better at TLG.
GravityInsanity
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Originally Posted by Timeaisis

OK, but who is Vidar.

Vidar is a one of the sons of Odin who avenged his fathers death by killing Fenrir after Fenrir swallowed and killed Odin during Ragnarok.
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Originally Posted by ReaperXL7

I figured he would be Thor because of the Lightning powers.

But Kratos is the son of Zeus so wouldn't Kratos' son having lightning abilities make a little bit of sense without him being Thor?
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(01-04-2017, 10:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kilau

Armstrong ;)

Don't fuck with this god.
OldRoutes
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(01-04-2017, 10:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by ryseing

Better and more interesting question is who the mother is IMO, as it wouldn't shock me if that played a central role in the game.

She has to be divine right? I can't see Kratos fathering a child with a mortal woman.

I think it'd make more sense if she was a mere mortal, no? Kratos trying to escape immortality, becoming savage to the point of inhumanity, and only a mere Norse mortal woman managed to get to his heart...

She died after giving birth to his son...
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Originally Posted by More_Badass

So...giant wolf boss battle in God of War?

Never been a God of War fan but this one looks hella cool. Giant wolf boss though? Day 0
Don.Abbade
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(01-04-2017, 10:56 PM)
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WOW dude. Thanks for this research!
Baroquemantic
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(01-04-2017, 10:57 PM)
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I guess I'm misremembering, but I thought the kid was already confirmed to be his biological son.

Edit: Oh, nice work, OP!
WrenchNinja
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(01-04-2017, 10:58 PM)
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Going to be hard to top Sif, the Great Wolf
Iva Demilcol
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(01-04-2017, 11:00 PM)
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I just hope Kratos die in the prologue so we end up controlling his God of War son.
Trojita
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(01-04-2017, 11:01 PM)
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For you, the day Kratos graced your village was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was Tyr's day
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(01-04-2017, 11:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by Iva Demilcol

I just hope Kratos die in the prologue so we end up controlling his God of War son.

I thought they already said Kratos is the main character and we won't be controlling the Son.
Shane89
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(01-04-2017, 11:04 PM)
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i just cannot wait to slaughter some valkyries.
Trojita
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(01-04-2017, 11:05 PM)
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Was it confirmed whether Tyr was Kratos' biological son or adopted when Kratos met Tyr's mother?

I thought it was going to be the latter.

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