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dragonbane
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(03-03-2017, 05:25 AM)
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Digital Foundry's video is hopefully coming soon, but in the meantime some new comparison videos from IGN and co popped up. Figured it would be good to get people up to speed who are still on the fence. As many expected the visual differences between the Wii U version at E3 and the Switch reveal version were entirely down to aesthetic changes for the most part.

The final version looks extremely similar on both consoles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYofouY9smw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yK9LhqyYJA

Compression hides the resolution differences, so that's certainly still there along with the other changes Nintendo specifically outlined. But outside of that they look very close

I also compared the loading times between the game installed to the internal memory on the Wii U and the Switch playing the game of the card (newest patch 1.1 in both cases including the Switch Day 1 firmware update as well):

WiiU:

New Game: 9.80

Reset to Title Screen: 4.60

Loading first shrine: 9.13

Finishing first shrine: 8.96

GameOver in a late game section: 9.56


Switch:

New Game: 7.40

Reset to Title Screen: 3.82

Loading first shrine: 11.36

Finishing first shrine: 13.29

GameOver in a late game section: 12.08


Whenever there is serious amounts of data to load the Wii U NAND outperforms the Switch game card. I assume installed to the Switch the results would look quite similar though.
Wii U can probably shave some additional seconds off if you use a SSD as evidenced by other games. Fortunately there is not much loading in this game

Feel free to add your own comparisons. Direct feed screenshots would be appreciated as well


UPDATE #1:

Compared the loading times to the Switch Digital Version as well. Wii U still wins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wwc...ature=youtu.be
Last edited by dragonbane; 03-04-2017 at 04:44 PM.
Get_craycray
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(03-03-2017, 05:46 AM)
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Took some screenshots from the IGN video:










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(03-03-2017, 05:47 AM)
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I'm starting the Wii U version soon and then buying the Swtich version whenever my Switch comes. I'll edit this post when both happen.
FZZ
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(03-03-2017, 05:48 AM)
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Fam they look the same to me

lmao
Porcile
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(03-03-2017, 05:48 AM)
Looks exactly the same. What happened? lol
Mr Swine
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(03-03-2017, 05:48 AM)
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Kinda disappointed that Zelda on Switch Is a mixed bag with loading times :/
The Last One
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(03-03-2017, 05:48 AM)
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The only difference I'm spoting in these screens are aliasing, like in the one that feature a close up of Link. Probably thanks to the difference in resolution.
flipswitch
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(03-03-2017, 05:49 AM)
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They look identical in terms of detail, just resolution and performance design differences.
Cerium
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(03-03-2017, 05:49 AM)
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Switch looks like it has a little better lighting and obviously it has higher resolution.

If you look at the top of the second set of images the lighting difference is clearer.
Herb Alpert
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(03-03-2017, 05:50 AM)
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can WiiU owners stop yelling now?
immortald3ath
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(03-03-2017, 05:50 AM)
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Switch version definitely looks more sharper.
antonz
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(03-03-2017, 05:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by FZZ

Fam they look the same to me

lmao

Which is basically what Aonuma etc. has been saying for weeks. They opted to not make any significant differences between the versions to ensure parity
sikkinixx
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(03-03-2017, 05:51 AM)
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Watching the GB 90 minute Quick look(lol) the frame drops were pretty damn evident. Interesting to see how much worse the Wii U version is in that respect
LewieP
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(03-03-2017, 05:51 AM)
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Frame rate is the far more interesting question to me.
Cess007
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(03-03-2017, 05:51 AM)
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Graphically they look the same and some of the loadings are even better on WiiU. I think I'll be fine with that version in the end.
EDarkness
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(03-03-2017, 05:51 AM)

Originally Posted by antonz

Which is basically what Aonuma etc. has been saying for weeks. They opted to not make any significant differences between the versions to ensure parity

I was just about to mention this. They were pretty serious about the games being the same.
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(03-03-2017, 05:53 AM)
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Originally Posted by The Last One

The only difference I'm spoting in these screens are aliasing, like in the one that feature a close up of Link. Probably thanks to the difference in resolution.

Which I'm guessing is due to the Wii U version being 720p and the Switch 900p, so less aliasing on the Switch version. I also notice better lighting on the Switch version unless its due to time of day.

Originally Posted by LewieP

Frame rate is the far more interesting question to me.

Same. Either way people who have a Wii U and want Zelda are in for a treat.
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(03-03-2017, 05:53 AM)
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Originally Posted by sikkinixx

Watching the GB 90 minute Quick look(lol) the frame drops were pretty damn evident. Interesting to see how much worse the Wii U version is.

This! This is the real deal.

I've read everything and its opposite (some said it was basically running as poorly as the Switch version, other saying it's significantly worse on Wii U).

Come on DF, do your magic!
Foldedpencil
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(03-03-2017, 05:54 AM)
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Very impressed that the draw distance seems to be the same. Wait on confirmation about draw distance.
Derkon
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(03-03-2017, 05:54 AM)
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Pretty impressed how much alike they look. I'm sure in person the Switch will look a bit sharper and have a little better performance. It seems both versions have framerate issues, WitWix Switch stream earlier had some hiccups and it straight up froze for one second when he was paragliding at one point.
Crayon
(03-03-2017, 05:55 AM)
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A strong showing for the Wii U's swan song and a great initial high watermark for the Switch.
NightOnyx
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(03-03-2017, 05:55 AM)
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wow, I thought the differences were going to be bigger than that. I was going to wait until I eventually got a Switch to play it, but I don't know when that will be, so I might just pick it up for the Wii U.
Jawbreaker
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(03-03-2017, 05:56 AM)
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Looks like resolution and performance are the two areas where they differ.
Stoze
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(03-03-2017, 05:56 AM)
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I like how everyone (including me) is waiting on Digital Foundry to see those sweet performance differences. Them boys do some good work.
DorkyMohr
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(03-03-2017, 05:56 AM)
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Really hope nothing damning performance wise comes out of the Wii U version.
molnizzle
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(03-03-2017, 05:57 AM)
Definitely buying on Wii U after I finish Horizon and Nioh.

Hopefully CEMU gets it running at 100% before I finish it and I can export my save. lol
banktree
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(03-03-2017, 05:57 AM)
After hearing that the console was easier to find than thought without a preorder, I think this thread may have just saved me $300.
T-0800
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(03-03-2017, 05:59 AM)
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IQ should look pretty good on the gamepad I imagine.
ASilentProtagonist
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(03-03-2017, 06:00 AM)
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Looks pretty identical, as expected.

The real question is how's the frame rate.
DooMAGE
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(03-03-2017, 06:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by molnizzle

Definitely buying on Wii U after I finish Horizon and Nioh.

Hopefully CEMU gets it running at 100% before I finish it and I can export my save. lol

CEMU can't run accurately most games yet, maybe next year lol
sirap
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(03-03-2017, 06:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by T-0800

IQ should look pretty good on the gamepad I imagine.

I've played it on the gamepad during toilet breaks and it's good, bit cramped though considering the large environments and text. This game deserves to be played on the big screen.
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(03-03-2017, 06:01 AM)
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The Wii U running at a lower resolution seems like it could create the scenario with the PS4 and PS Pro, in that by upping the resolution and detail on the Pro, some vanilla PS4 titles would run at a higher framerate just because they weren't pushing nearly as hard.

Hopefully not, and they both run decently. The Twitch streams I've seen showing the Wii U version seem reasonable, and I didn't hear any complaints saying it was unplayable or anything. My download sits at 53%, so hopefully I'll be able to see in a few hours!
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(03-03-2017, 06:01 AM)
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Originally Posted by DooMAGE

CEMU can't run accurately most games yet, maybe next year lol

It runs popular games pretty well, and I'd imagine the dev will be 100% on BotW atm.
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(03-03-2017, 06:03 AM)
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I'm not finding the controls awesome on Wii U.

Though I can't really compare as I haven't played it on Switch. Controls don't feel tight like Wind Waker. Often having to think a lot before presses and it kinda sucks you can't really re-map buttons.

Still having a lot of fun though. Great looking game.
batman2million
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(03-03-2017, 06:03 AM)
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With my switch order being delayed I'm kinda regretting getting it. But at the same time the sleep function/ instant on for a game like this is a good incentive.
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(03-03-2017, 06:04 AM)
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So how come switch version isnt 1080p?
SinCityAssassin
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(03-03-2017, 06:04 AM)
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I wonder if continuous patches can speed up those single second load differences
sirap
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(03-03-2017, 06:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by SCULLIBUNDO

I'm not finding the controls awesome on Wii U.

Though I can't really compare as I haven't played it on Switch. Controls don't feel tight like Wind Waker. Often having to think a lot before presses and it kinda sucks you can't really re-map buttons.

Still having a lot of fun though. Great looking game.

My biggest problem was jump being mapped to X. Thank god they let you change that with running (B), but yeah the control situation isn't ideal on the game pad.

Originally Posted by Lovely Salsa

So how come switch version isnt 1080p?

They can barely get it to run well on 720p lol. The switch isn't that much more powerful than the Wii U, but I think it's also worth considering that this is Nintendo's first open-world game (and a pretty massive one at that). They probably bit off more than they could chew.
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Strings
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(03-03-2017, 06:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by antonz

Which is basically what Aonuma etc. has been saying for weeks. They opted to not make any significant differences between the versions to ensure parity

Why is the framerate so dodgy then :/?
KeRaSh
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(03-03-2017, 06:06 AM)
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Apart from major AA differences they pretty much look the same. I actually expected the Switch version to have a big advantage in draw distance but apparently that's not the case.
Performance, resolution and AA (and maybe some higher quality textures) are enough to make me play the Switch version.
I just have to get through this work day...
SatoAilDarko
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(03-03-2017, 06:06 AM)
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The Wii U is probably a couple FPS lower on average and has a much bigger lowest FPS (sub-20fps). Looking at early foot it's very noticeably slower in villagers with all the NPC's. Though even on Switch there's a lower framerate just not nearly as bad.

I haven't seen anything that I find unacceptable though.

I'll pick it up Sunday at Target. A nice Swan song I guess but I actually have a lot of Wii U games I need to finish.
Fredrik
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(03-03-2017, 06:06 AM)
Now maybe the salty ones can put this to rest. They look exactly the same to me. Like totally identical. No further investigation needed really.
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(03-03-2017, 06:08 AM)
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I'm buying the Wii U version so I may have confirmation bias, but there's not a lot of difference here. I suspect the main differentiator is the framerate.
dragonbane
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(03-03-2017, 06:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by sikkinixx

Watching the GB 90 minute Quick look(lol) the frame drops were pretty damn evident. Interesting to see how much worse the Wii U version is in that respect

Probably a bit, but not much (when compared to the Switch in dock mode)


Originally Posted by SRTtoZ

Which I'm guessing is due to the Wii U version being 720p and the Switch 900p, so less aliasing on the Switch version. I also notice better lighting on the Switch version unless its due to time of day.

Later on in the IGN video the time of day is slightly different if you mean that particular portion


Originally Posted by Derkon

Pretty impressed how much alike they look. I'm sure in person the Switch will look a bit sharper and have a little better performance. It seems both versions have framerate issues, WitWix Switch stream earlier had some hiccups and it straight up froze for one second when he was paragliding at one point.

I never had these freezes on Wii U actually. Might be loading related and thus Switch exclusive
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Piggus
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(03-03-2017, 06:09 AM)
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Main difference visually seems to be resolution and anti-aliasing. The Wii U version looks like it has practically no AA, whereas on Switch there's clearly at least some sort of post-process AA happening in addition to the resolution bump.

A good example of this is the torches/lantern things behind Link in what I assume is the starting area.

Switch


Wii U
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(03-03-2017, 06:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by SinCityAssassin

I wonder if continuous patches can speed up those single second load differences

There's probably a decent bit more optimization Nintendo can do if they're up to it, particularly on the Switch version. Here's hoping they have a performance patch or two in the cards.
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Originally Posted by SatoAilDarko

The Wii U is probably a couple FPS lower on average and has a much bigger lowest FPS (sub-20fps). Looking at early foot it's very noticeably slower in villagers with all the NPC's. Though even on Switch there's a lower framerate just not nearly as bad.

I haven't seen anything that I find unacceptable though.

I'll pick it up Sunday at Target. A nice Swan song I guess but I actually have a lot of Wii U games I need to finish.

I've played it for roughly ~3 hours now on the Switch, and I've run across one of these: https://youtu.be/ALdZyIGxux0?t=204

Tons of stuttering too. It's really baffling now seeing as it shouldn't really be pushing the Switch to its limits? Blegh.
flipswitch
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(03-03-2017, 06:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by Piggus

Main difference visually seems to be resolution and anti-aliasing. The Wii U version looks like it has practically no AA, whereas on Switch there's clearly at least some sort of post-process AA happening in addition to the resolution bump.

A good example of this is the torches/lantern things behind Link in what I assume is the starting area.

Switch


Wii U

Well I'm playing the switch version now and it honestly looks like there's no AA nor AF present.
dragonbane
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(03-03-2017, 06:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by SCULLIBUNDO

I'm not finding the controls awesome on Wii U.

Though I can't really compare as I haven't played it on Switch. Controls don't feel tight like Wind Waker. Often having to think a lot before presses and it kinda sucks you can't really re-map buttons.

Still having a lot of fun though. Great looking game.

Switch has the same controls, but I feel you. Exactly the same for me


Originally Posted by T-0800

IQ should look pretty good on the gamepad I imagine.

Looks pretty dope indeed
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(03-03-2017, 06:15 AM)
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Originally Posted by flipswitch

Well I'm playing the switch version now and it honestly looks like there's no AA nor AF present.

To be fair, 900p isn't great for image quality to begin with, and it's possible that the AA solution breaks down in some situations. Based on the videos I've seen though, it looks a lot more shimmery and jaggie on Wii U.

How does it look in handheld mode (720p)?

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