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boskee
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(04-18-2017, 04:40 PM)
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What most have suspected/looked for to for quite some time has been all but confirmed: CDPR is now looking for Mobile Developers to work on Gwent:

http://en.cdprojektred.com/jobs/game...grammer-gwent/

In other news, CD Projekt's board has recommended a dividend payout to the tune of 100 million PLN, or some ~$25 million. It is the first dividend paid out by the Polish company since it went public, and is also the first dividend paid out by any Polish gaming company. , The board has refused to promise more payouts in the future and has stated, that future payouts will be determined by the current financial situation of the company, its business plans and future needs.

Finally, the Game Director for Cyberpunk 2077 has changed after RED has finished Blood and Wine (screenshot below), and according to my sources - please treat it as a rumour, as I won't reveal anything more - the preproduction done on the game before 2016 has been binned.

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I didn't realize there wasn't a mobile version of Gwent announced.

Their public statements about reboots and ambition along with the continually increasing development timeline of Cyberpunk also fit with the idea of the game having been rebooted.

Similarly the new type of multiplayer stuff they were getting funding for didn't exactly make sense in the context of their original statements about the game.
boskee
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(04-18-2017, 04:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nirolak

I didn't realize there wasn't a mobile version of Gwent announced.

It wasn't, but given the fact they built it in Unity it was obvious. However, we now have a solid evidence they're going to develop a mobile version.

Originally Posted by Nirolak

Their public statements about reboots and ambition along with the continually increasing development timeline of Cyberpunk also fit with the idea of the game having been rebooted.

Well, some of their statements may have given people wrong idea about the stage of development. From what I can tell, the work done by CD Projekt Black, as the team responsible for Cyberpunk 2077 was known, has been all but binned.

Originally Posted by Nirolak

Similarly the new type of multiplayer stuff they were getting funding for didn't exactly make sense in the context of their original statements about the game.

They originally stated that the game will contain multiplayer elements, so it's not exactly far from the original promise.
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Feral Gingy
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(04-18-2017, 04:47 PM)
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So, Cyberpunk releasing in 2020 at earliest?
fastmower
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(04-18-2017, 04:47 PM)
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That rumor is a big bummer.
boskee
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(04-18-2017, 04:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Feral Gingy

So, Cyberpunk releasing in 2020 at earliest?

My money is still on late 2018/H1 2019.
Feral Gingy
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(04-18-2017, 04:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by boskee

My money is still on late 2018/H1 2019.

Really? I sure hope you're right :)
chaosmaster(1)
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(04-18-2017, 04:54 PM)

Originally Posted by boskee

My money is still on late 2018/H1 2019.

What are the odds we see a teaser trailer this year at E3?
Abilidebob
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(04-18-2017, 04:55 PM)

Originally Posted by Feral Gingy

So, Cyberpunk releasing in 2020 at earliest?

It would fit thematically.
boskee
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(04-18-2017, 04:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by chaosmaster(1)

What are the odds we see a teaser trailer this year at E3?

Unless they show a CGI made by Digic/Platige, I don't think there's a big chance to see anything.
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(04-18-2017, 04:56 PM)
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I didn't know Gwent is being done in Unity. Good news to me.
wiibomb
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(04-18-2017, 04:57 PM)
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given that I play 90% of the time Hearthstone on mobile, CCG need to be on mobile for me, if they port it to mobile, I'll surely give it a shot, HS is becoming too expensive
chaosmaster(1)
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(04-18-2017, 04:59 PM)

Originally Posted by boskee

Unless they show a CGI made by Digic/Platige, I don't think there's a big chance to see anything.

Ah that sucks. After The Witcher 3 I just can't wait to see this thing, I've never poured so much time into an rpg before it.
boskee
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(04-18-2017, 05:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by chaosmaster(1)

Ah that sucks. After The Witcher 3 I just can't wait to see this thing, I've never poured so much time into an rpg before it.

Well, we have Gwent campaigns coming out later this year - one for each faction, each 10+ hours of single player, fully voiced open (isometric) world journeys set in the world of the Witcher. This should keep us busy :)
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(04-18-2017, 05:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by boskee

Finally, the Game Director for Cyberpunk 2077 has changed after RED has finished Blood and Wine (screenshot below), and according to my sources - please treat it as a rumour, as I won't reveal anything more - the preproduction done on the game before 2016 has been binned.

I wish I knew what the fuck this means for the game's production process.

What is in pre-production? Concept arts? What else?
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(04-18-2017, 05:12 PM)
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wtf
Buffett says never pay dividends!
Reinvest!
boskee
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(04-18-2017, 05:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by MadYarpen

I wish I knew what the fuck this means for the game's production process.

What is in pre-production? Concept arts? What else?

Story for example. CD Projekt Black was pretty much story writers and the Game Director after staff was moved to work on TW3.
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(04-18-2017, 05:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by boskee

Story for example. CD Projekt Black was pretty much story writers and the Game Director after staff was moved to work on TW3.

Hm... I think something like that happened to all their games to some extent. I am not sure, because it is since 2004 that I've been following their work and that's a lot of time to forget things, but what you are saying certainly rings a bell for me.

Anyway, if that is the case, I hope what they have instead (I understand they are effectively working on the game for more than a year now) is good.

They have the engine (well surely it needs update to handle a city and vehicles and better combat & movement), i hope it is in very intensive production ATM.
boskee
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(04-18-2017, 05:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by MadYarpen

Hm... I think something like that happened to all their games to some extent. I am not sure, because it is since 2004 that I've been following their work and that's a lot of time to forget things, but what you are saying certainly rings a bell for me.

Anyway, if that is the case, I hope what they have instead (I understand they are effectively working on the game for more than a year now) is good.

They have the engine (well surely it needs update to handle a city and vehicles and better combat & movement), i hope it is in very intensive production ATM.

For all I know it is in the advanced stage of production, sure.
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(04-18-2017, 05:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by MadYarpen

I wish I knew what the fuck this means for the game's production process.

What is in pre-production? Concept arts? What else?

Well pre-production is a lot of design work, and also the time for engineering R&D to build up the engine. It's the period where everyone is trying to figure out what the game might look like, and get ready to build that. Concept art is big because it helps establish tone and visual language during this phase.

Think of it like constructing a building. Before you start laying bricks down (production), you need a blueprint ready to go (pre-production). Everyone on the team needs to help with that blueprint at one point or another. Except now CDPR may have thrown their blueprint out, which can be good since you can now get an understanding of what did and didn't work before.
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(04-18-2017, 05:35 PM)
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Can't wait. I rarely play Gwent because they're doing a wipe before open beta but once this is on mobile it'll probably take up all the time I usually spend playing Hearthstone.
boskee
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(04-18-2017, 05:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by Iced_Eagle

Well pre-production is a lot of design work, and also the time for engineering R&D to build up the engine. It's the period where everyone is trying to figure out what the game might look like, and get ready to build that. Concept art is big because it helps establish tone and visual language during this phase.

Think of it like constructing a building. Before you start laying bricks down (production), you need a blueprint ready to go (pre-production). Everyone on the team needs to help with that blueprint at one point or another. Except now CDPR may have thrown their blueprint out, which can be good since you can now get an understanding of what did and didn't work before.

Well said, however, there's one thing that is also important to note, and that is that all those "everything we know about Cyberpunk 2077" threads can be now binned too. Things like "translation chips" have been described by the former Game Director and should now be forgotten, until we get evidence to the contrary.
AuthenticM
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(04-18-2017, 05:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by boskee

the preproduction done on the game before 2016 has been binned.

Originally Posted by boskee

has been all but binned.

what does this mean?
Shredderi
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(04-18-2017, 05:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by boskee

Finally, the Game Director for Cyberpunk 2077 has changed after RED has finished Blood and Wine (screenshot below), and according to my sources - please treat it as a rumour, as I won't reveal anything more - the preproduction done on the game before 2016 has been binned.

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(04-18-2017, 05:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shredderi

The delay certainly sucks. I was hoping for early 2nd half 2018 release but I don't see this getting out before 2019 now at best. This is also interesting since their incoming revenue is going to be quite small since W3 sales should have bottomed out and Gwent is an unknown.

I guess they still got GoG.
boskee
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(04-18-2017, 05:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by StereoVsn

The delay certainly sucks. I was hoping for early 2nd half 2018 release but I don't see this getting out before 2019 now at best. This is also interesting since their incoming revenue is going to be quite small since W3 sales should have bottomed out and Gwent is an unknown.

I guess they still got GoG.

CDPR is happy with the income that Gwent has already generated and they're still yet to launch in China.
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Originally Posted by AuthenticM

what does this mean?

Canned. Thrown out. Starting over.
Anything they worked on before 2016 anyway.
Feral Gingy
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(04-18-2017, 05:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by boskee

Well said, however, there's one thing that is also important to note, and that is that all those "everything we know about Cyberpunk 2077" threads can be now binned too. Things like "translation chips" have been described by the former Game Director and should now be forgotten, until we get evidence to the contrary.

Does this mean I need to forget everything, delete my hype and wait for new info from the current director?

God damn...
AuthenticM
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(04-18-2017, 05:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by kingofthedead45

Canned. Thrown out. Starting over.
Anything they worked on before 2016 anyway.

wooooow. I hope this does not portend a troubled development.
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(04-18-2017, 05:55 PM)
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I am wondering how they will deal with cross plattform play on mobile.
boskee
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(04-18-2017, 05:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by AuthenticM

wooooow. I hope this does not portend a troubled development.

No, don't worry.
Frostman
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(04-18-2017, 05:58 PM)
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Wow. I've never felt this way about a game release before. I know it will release, but I just feel like it won't.

Have been waiting too long lmao.
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(04-18-2017, 06:06 PM)
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Makes sense I think. A lot has changed since the release of The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt and Blood & Wine. More money, an improved engine, ...
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(04-18-2017, 06:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by boskee

Finally, the Game Director for Cyberpunk 2077 has changed after RED has finished Blood and Wine (screenshot below), and according to my sources - please treat it as a rumour, as I won't reveal anything more - the preproduction done on the game before 2016 has been binned.

Yeah, I'd noticed this, also posted it in the CP 2077 "all info" thread a few months ago, speculating what that could mean. I tried to be optimistic, but...

I wonder if Konrad became the director of this one too.
frontovik
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(04-18-2017, 06:08 PM)
Thanks for the information, OP.

As an avid fan of Gwent, it'd certainly be fantastic to see it brought to mobile. The more exposure the better, especially for CDPR as they absolutely deserve it.

With regards to Cyberpunk, I'm not surprised that the team is working on a new blueprint .. the creative process takes some work, but it's best to constantly refine it rather than working with a shoddy foundation.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the Cyberpunk genre, but if CDPR in the future works on something historical inspired, that would be neat! (i.e... something on Ancient Rome/Greece, Age of Discovery, 30 Years War, World War I or II perhaps?)
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(04-18-2017, 06:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by frontovik

Thanks for the information, OP.

As an avid fan of Gwent, it'd certainly be fantastic to see it brought to mobile. The more exposure the better, especially for CDPR as they absolutely deserve it.

With regards to Cyberpunk, I'm not surprised that the team is working on a new blueprint .. the creative process takes some work, but it's best to constantly refine it rather than working with a shoddy foundation.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the Cyberpunk genre, but if CDPR in the future works on something historical inspired, that would be neat! (i.e... something on Ancient Rome/Greece, Age of Discovery, 30 Years War, World War I or II perhaps?)

They are going to release 2 AAA games by 2021, but I doubt the 2nd, unrevealed game, will be historically inspired ;)
PFD
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(04-18-2017, 06:41 PM)
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Way to dash my hopes of E3 2017 reveal followed by Holiday 2017 release
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(04-18-2017, 06:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by AuthenticM

wooooow. I hope this does not portend a troubled development.

Their public statement when they did the reboot was that they felt their original vision wouldn't be good enough or ambitious enough by the standards of when the game was targeted to release.

A lot of games really struggle with that, and for example, it's how we end up with series like Deus Ex going into the garbage can, so it's a good idea to adjust if you need to.
boskee
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(04-18-2017, 06:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by PFD

followed by Holiday 2017 release

Oh that was always unrealistic. You should adjust your expectations towards 2019.
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Originally Posted by boskee

They are going to release 2 AAA games by 2021, but I doubt the 2nd, unrevealed game, will be historically inspired ;)

How is the "other game" going? is it in active development already? Of course I care more about that mysterious game ;)
blly155
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(04-18-2017, 06:58 PM)
I don't really care for Gwent. I loved it as a mini game but as a card game it's gonna be expensive to keep up with new cards. I might just jump in for the single player content.

Sucks for Cyberpunk. Really looking forward to it. Take your time and get it right. I am sure it'll be worth the wait.
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(04-18-2017, 07:01 PM)
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I already have 5/19/2019 marked on my calendar as the release date for 2077.
boskee
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(04-18-2017, 07:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ahasverus

How is the "other game" going? is it in active development already? Of course I care more about that mysterious game ;)

I'm afraid I know nothing about it... yet.

Originally Posted by DemWalls

I already have 5/19/2019 marked on my calendar as the release date for 2077.

You and me both ;)
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(04-18-2017, 07:04 PM)

Originally Posted by AuthenticM

wooooow. I hope this does not portend a troubled development.

No. This happens all the time in development.

You try things. They don't work. You scrap it and try something else. It doesn't work. You try again taking into account the previous failures and it sorta works. You tweak that and it works better. You tune it a bit more and hey it's not bad and kind of fun. You feverishly polish that and you end up with a Witcher 3.
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(04-18-2017, 07:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by boskee

I'm afraid I know nothing about it... yet.

Oh, I see.. Don't forget to share any details you catch!

Originally Posted by AuthenticM

wooooow. I hope this does not portend a troubled development.

Don't worry, both W2 and W3 were made in ridiculously short dev times after scrapping lots of things. Which makes Bioware's and SQ's failures more embarassing.
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Originally Posted by boskee

Finally, the Game Director for Cyberpunk 2077 has changed after RED has finished Blood and Wine (screenshot below), and according to my sources - please treat it as a rumour, as I won't reveal anything more - the preproduction done on the game before 2016 has been binned.

Wish they had given this much time to W3. It could have used it.

Tell me, is there anything your source can say about what happened to the planned Scoia'tael / Catriona plague / Nilfgaardian war effort subplot of W3. Still dying to find out more about it, and why it got the axe seemingly so late. Was planned from the start, from what I can tell. Everyone is closed lip though due to NDA.
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(04-18-2017, 07:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tenacious-D

Wish they had given this much time to W3. It could have used it.

Tell me, is there anything your source can say about what happened to the planned Scoia'tael / Catriona plague / Nilfgaardian war effort subplot of W3. Still dying to find out more about it, and why it got the axe seemingly so late. Everyone is closed lip though due to NDA.

I will ask, but you have to understand that CDPR is very sensitive to feedback. The Arena mode in TW2 was done waaaaaaaaay earlier than it was added in the Enhanced Edition, but because it was half baked and the feedback was mixed, they made a snap decision to cut it out and work on it further. Arena was axed shortly before the release of TW2. That's how CDP rolls.
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Originally Posted by boskee

I will ask, but you have to understand that CDPR is very sensitive to feedback. The Arena mode in TW2 was done waaaaaaaaay earlier than it was added in the Enhanced Edition, but because it was half baked and the feedback was mixed, they made a snap decision to cut it out and work on it further. Arena was axed shortly before the release of TW2. That's how CDP rolls.

Yet nobody told them that the Search for Dandelion was as fun as a soup of nails smh
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Originally Posted by boskee

I will ask, but you have to understand that CDPR is very sensitive to feedback. The Arena mode in TW2 was done waaaaaaaaay earlier than it was added in the Enhanced Edition, but because it was half baked and the feedback was mixed, they made a snap decision to cut it out and work on it further.

Sweet! Thanks ;)

I've heard things like that. From what I understand, a lot of the stuff added in the EE was originally worked on during production, but put aside when it became apparent that they didn't have the time to finish it to their standards. I remember Doug Cockle saying that he was never called back to do more lines for W2. The stuff they added in the EE had already been recorded during the original development.

Part of me wonders if there's voice files sitting on a CDPR server somewhere for TW2 Chapter 4 set in Dol Blathanna, even if they hadn't came out and said it, it's obvious they had intended for it to be in the game. Hopefully we'll finally see Francesca in the Gwent campaign.

Originally Posted by Ahasverus

Yet nobody told them that the Search for Dandelion was as fun as a soup of nails smh

Just my hypothesis, but they definitely knew, just like with Iorveth and the Wild Hunt. it was just too late to do anything about it.
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(04-18-2017, 07:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tenacious-D

Part of me wonders if there's voice files sitting on a CDPR server somewhere for TW2 Chapter 4 set in Dol Blathanna, even if they hadn't came out and said it, it's obvious they had intended for it to be in the game. Hopefully we'll finally see Francesca in the Gwent campaign.

Just my hypothesis, but they definitely knew, just like with Iorveth and the Wild Hunt. it was just too late to do anything about it.

I know nothing about that. What I can tell you, is that the chances for the next Witcher game to feature Ciri as the protagonist are next to zero, unless Horizon has changed CDPR's opinion. They had a research into female game protagonists, and it wasn't great.

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