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Gek54
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(01-14-2007, 07:45 AM)
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"Gameinformer:What about the PS3?

Gabe Newell: The PS3 is a total disaster on so many levels, I think It's really clear that Sony lost track of what customers and what developers wanted. I'd say, even at this late date, they should just cancel it and do a "do over". Just say, "This was a horrible disaster and we're sorry and we're going to stop selling this and stop trying to convince people to develop for it". The happy story is the Wii. I'm betting that by Christmas of next year, the Wii has a larger installed base than the 360. Other people think I'm crazy. I really like everthing that Nintendo is doing. "
Odysseus
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(01-14-2007, 07:46 AM)
wow
JB1981
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Rich, smooth, creamy shit.
(01-14-2007, 07:46 AM)
You sure that's not an interview with moku?
akachan ningen
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(01-14-2007, 07:46 AM)
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I think he's crazy too.
MightyHedgehog
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(01-14-2007, 07:47 AM)
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He's probably right. About Wii sales. And the PS3, too.
Odysseus
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(01-14-2007, 07:47 AM)

Originally Posted by JB1981

You sure that's not an interview with moku?

more like johnny nightfraud
Oldschoolgamer
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(01-14-2007, 07:47 AM)
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This coming from the makers of Steam?

That was terrible on all levels.
LaMeRz
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(01-14-2007, 07:48 AM)
As much as Sony sucks for messing up with the PS3 is anyone else besides me just getting tired of hearing about it?
Tieno
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(01-14-2007, 07:48 AM)
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Is Half-Life 2 Orange coming to PS3? Are any other Valve games coming to PS3?
Blackace
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(01-14-2007, 07:48 AM)
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Wow.. that was just harsh...
jj984jj
He's a pretty swell guy in my books anyway.
(01-14-2007, 07:48 AM)
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I said WOW. :lol

Originally Posted by Tieno

Is Half-Life 2 Orange coming to PS3? Are any other Valve games coming to PS3?

Yes, I believe it's EA publishing it & No.
Monk
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(01-14-2007, 07:49 AM)
This is what happens when you do/dont put a software designer at the top. :p
Avalon
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(01-14-2007, 07:49 AM)
Holy crap. I didn't expect him to be that straightforward about it. :lol
MutFox
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(01-14-2007, 07:49 AM)
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Please develop for the Wii Valve.
Thank You.
nelsonroyale
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(01-14-2007, 07:49 AM)
sounds like a deal fell through...anyway, I would prefer nintendo started over with the wii, the I would have got that console first no doubt...more power


peace
MightyHedgehog
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(01-14-2007, 07:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by LaMeRz

As much as Sony sucks for messing up with the PS3 is anyone else besides me just getting tired of hearing about it?

No. Sony needs ****ing reboot in execution.
Rotanibor
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(01-14-2007, 07:50 AM)
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He better back this up by putting a brand new original Valve FPS on the Wii. Or just Half-Life 2 again, I'd be cool with that.
ToxicAdam
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(01-14-2007, 07:50 AM)
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I can't think of one thing Sony has done right since E3 .... he has a point.
The Black Brad Pitt
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(01-14-2007, 07:50 AM)
He was probably in a good mood because Nintendo sent him some krispy kremes.
nathkenn
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(01-14-2007, 07:50 AM)
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I've got one at my desk now, havent even bothered turning it on yet.

Actually, I wonder if it will play import ps2 games, mmmm hokuto no ken.
jvalioli
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(01-14-2007, 07:51 AM)
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hey should just cancel it and do a "do over". Just say, "This was a horrible disaster and we're sorry and we're going to stop selling this and stop trying to convince people to develop for it".

That is pretty extreme. Sounds like Sony ran over his dog or something.
Smiles and Cries
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here's a worthy cause.
(01-14-2007, 07:51 AM)
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unexpected... I want a PS3 :(
artist
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(01-14-2007, 07:51 AM)
Nice!

I like all the criticism, it means we get a better PS4. :)
Monk
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(01-14-2007, 07:51 AM)

Originally Posted by Oldschoolgamer

This coming from the makers of Steam?

That was terrible on all levels.

From a concept stand point it was brilliant. The execution however..
Morbid Angel
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(01-14-2007, 07:51 AM)
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Originally Posted by jj984jj

I said WOW. :lol


Yes, I believe it's EA publishing it & No.

Ported and published by EA.
Bad_Boy
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(01-14-2007, 07:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by The Black Brad Pitt

He was probably in a good mood because Nintendo sent him some krispy kremes.

SnakeXs
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(01-14-2007, 07:52 AM)
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I have a feeling he doesn't like the PS3 at all. Not sure why. I'm intuitive, I guess.
ethelred
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(01-14-2007, 07:52 AM)
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Holy shit. He ripped them a new asshole there.

Originally Posted by The Black Brad Pitt

He was probably in a good mood because Nintendo sent him some krispy kremes.

Originally Posted by Bad_Boy

So Gabe Newell is the new Jeff Gerstmann, huh? I remember after the Zelda review folks were going around here saying no one but Nintendo fans would stoop so low as to make fun of someone for his weight...
PhoenixDark
(01-14-2007, 07:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gek54

"Gameinformer:What about the PS3?

Gabe Newell: The PS3 is a total disaster on so many levels, I think It's really clear that Sony lost track of what customers and what developers wanted. I'd say, even at this late date, they should just cancel it and do a "do over". Just say, "This was a horrible disaster and we're sorry and we're going to stop selling this and stop trying to convince people to develop for it". The happy story is the Wii. I'm betting that by Christmas of next year, the Wii has a larger installed base than the 360. Other people think I'm crazy. I really like everthing that Nintendo is doing. "

Confirmed: Gabe is awesome lol

Althought I find it odd that he didn't explain his problems with teh PS3
jman2050
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(01-14-2007, 07:52 AM)
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umm... Is there an online source for this? Or can someone confirm it actually came from GameInformer? Sounds a bit TOO straightforward if you ask me, but if he actually said it, then whatever...
JB1981
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Rich, smooth, creamy shit.
(01-14-2007, 07:53 AM)

Originally Posted by The Black Brad Pitt

He was probably in a good mood because Nintendo sent him some krispy kremes.

are you implying that the man is only happy when he eats?
Odysseus
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(01-14-2007, 07:54 AM)

Originally Posted by JB1981

are you implying that the man is only happy when he eats?

i should try that

being happy, i mean

eating, too
Bad_Boy
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(01-14-2007, 07:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by JB1981

are you implying that the man is only happy when he eats?




I could use this image all day. :P
Mejilan
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(01-14-2007, 07:55 AM)
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Wow, harsh and straightforward. No room to interpret there.
speculawyer
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(01-14-2007, 07:55 AM)
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Ouch . . . well, he is mainly a PC developer any way.

Half-Life 2 is on the way to the PS3 though, EA & Sony can't be happy with his harsh statement.
Moderation Unlimited
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(01-14-2007, 07:55 AM)
Half Life 2 is great and all, but it sounds like bitter PC developer tears. They just can't seem to be able to wrap their head around CELL (assymetrical processing). I don't hear the final fantasy team, Kojima's team, Insomniac, or Naughty Dog bitching about the PS3's architecture (although I'm sure it's frustrating to work with initially). Back in the day upsetting PC developers was no big deal because they didn't really have any leverage in the console market. I think that's beginning to change, though. And Sony angering guys like these just isn't scoring them any points, regardless if he's being a pansy or not.
Mar
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Originally Posted by Gek54

The PS3 is a total disaster on so many levels, I think It's really clear that Sony lost track of what customers and what developers wanted. I'd say, even at this late date, they should just cancel it and do a "do over". Just say, "This was a horrible disaster and we're sorry and we're going to stop selling this and stop trying to convince people to develop for it".

Jesus... That was.. Harsh.

I'm not a fan of Sony's efforts lately either. But to say it's a disaster is going a bit too far.
datruth29
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(01-14-2007, 07:55 AM)
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Wow. Talk about a balls out interview. Wait a second, isn't Episode 2 suppose to be a multi-console release? WTF Gabe?
The Black Brad Pitt
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
(01-14-2007, 07:55 AM)

Originally Posted by JB1981

are you implying that the man is only happy when he eats?

Nintendo knows the way to his heart.
g23
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(01-14-2007, 07:55 AM)
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You know you have truly failed when a major developer says you are a **** up this early in the war. GG sony, nice knowing you Blu-Ray!

(please don't ban me)
J-Rzez
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(01-14-2007, 07:57 AM)
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So, he didn't like it before the launch of it... and dislikes it now because it's not nearly as easy to program for as the Wii nor 360... so, wants to just cover it up by trying to fire others up saying it's not what consumers want either? Ok... it's what I want, the games I want on still on it, I'm happy with it... It's a powerful machine, him and Carmack should just keep their mouths shut because what Sony's showing first party wise is amazing...
SleazyC
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(01-14-2007, 07:57 AM)
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Ouch..... thats pretty harsh.

As a consumer I love my PS3 so far but I'm not sure what to take of it from the developer perspective. I know a lot of devs have said its hard to develop for but I was always thinking it would be along the same lines as the PS2.
C- Warrior
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(01-14-2007, 07:58 AM)
Sony should reply with equal directness.

Sony: "Dear Gabe, you're fat as ****, lose weight, and try to start over so that you can convince people you'll live past the age of 50."
LJ11
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(01-14-2007, 07:58 AM)
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Edit: Felt bad so I removed the pic.
Last edited by LJ11; 01-14-2007 at 08:15 AM.
buckfutter
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(01-14-2007, 07:59 AM)
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Well somebody certainly doesn't like SPUs.
datruth29
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(01-14-2007, 07:59 AM)
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Originally Posted by LJ11

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8...enewellxg9.png

Credit goes thermaltake over on Teamxbox forums where this story originated.

:lol :lol :lol
Link316
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(01-14-2007, 07:59 AM)
actions speak louder than words
Branduil
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(01-14-2007, 07:59 AM)
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That's great, but Valve still hasn't announced a Wii game yet.

Counter-Strike Wii. Make it happen Valve.
Tieno
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(01-14-2007, 08:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by C- Warrior

Sony should reply with equal directness.

Sony: "Dear Gabe, you're fat as ****, lose weight, and try to start over so that you can convince people you'll live past the age of 50."

What does his weight have to do with this?
Odysseus
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(01-14-2007, 08:00 AM)

Originally Posted by ethelred

So Gabe Newell is the new Jeff Gerstmann, huh? I remember after the Zelda review folks were going around here saying no one but Nintendo fans would stoop so low as to make fun of someone for his weight...


point for ethelred here

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