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Atheerios
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(07-07-2017, 02:05 AM)
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According to modders who are working on the Switch right now, there is a NES Emulator embedded in the firmware codenamed "flog".

http://switchbrew.org/index.php?title=Title_list

https://twitter.com/AllSourceGaming/...85036374851585

This is pretty interesting because so far in Classic Console games the emulator is embedded in the game download. This is the first Nintendo console to include the emulator in the firmware itself, so technically you would only have to download the original ROM from the eShop.
GhostTrick
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(07-07-2017, 02:07 AM)
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Unsurprising. They're planning to rent NES games with their paid online service as a "compensation".

But I guess the real surprise here is that the emulator is directly integrated into the firmware and not with each games anymore.



Originally Posted by sixteen-bit

this should decrease individual download sizes for VC titles down the road, yes?


By a good margin, yes.
sixteen-bit
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(07-07-2017, 02:07 AM)
this should decrease individual download sizes for VC titles down the road, yes?
Lynd7
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(07-07-2017, 02:07 AM)
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Was it downloaded from the internet though?
FireBeaver
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(07-07-2017, 02:07 AM)
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Another switch VC topic? Can we just stop flogging the dead horse already?
mattp
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(07-07-2017, 02:08 AM)
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cool, but this is literally one of the least surprising things they could have found
chronic_archaic
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(07-07-2017, 02:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by FireBeaver

Another switch VC topic? Can we just stop flogging the dead horse already?

I feel the same way but this is actually interesting

It probably has the there proprietary netplay and online features and it might be a system where the bare ROM is downloaded with some config to reduce file size and I would bet they intend to keep this for future consoles added.
UnemployedVillain
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(07-07-2017, 02:13 AM)
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Not too surprising. They stopped with the embedded emulators thing with the NES Mini
Dark Ninja
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(07-07-2017, 02:15 AM)
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WAIT this is taking precious space on my Switch! Unacceptable!
drangleic tourism
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(07-07-2017, 02:16 AM)
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I wonder if this was there from day 1 or came in stealthily during one of the updates.

Either way, interesting stuff.
True Fire
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(07-07-2017, 02:18 AM)
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My biggest disappointment with the Switch so far has been the lack of classic games. I hope they do a straight Virtual Console. Don't drag it down by adding online to every game, please. And don't attach it to your online subscription.
rewkol
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(07-07-2017, 02:21 AM)
That's a pretty interesting name... however, as others have said, the emulator being separate and not a part of the VC title itself sounds great! I actually didn't know that that was how it worked in the past, but in retrospect that makes some sense as to how they did it. Now we just need to wait and see if any others are discovered, or wait for them to appear
ßig
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(07-07-2017, 02:38 AM)
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Wow at that name.
qko
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(07-07-2017, 02:38 AM)
Wonder if the Netflix style service is going to be a file that gets updated with roms. And since the emulator is already integrated, the file itself would just get updated to add or subtract games at the beginning of the month.

I just hope the service isn't online only.
Platy
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(07-07-2017, 02:39 AM)
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How did they discovered that it was a nes emulator ?

But it will be interesting to see if they can see how big is the compatibility... if it can run some weird roms like the disk system for example. It can give us a good idea of how far they are planning
DataGhost
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(07-07-2017, 02:39 AM)
I wonder if they'll be able to run it and see what happens
sinkfla87
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(07-07-2017, 02:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by FireBeaver

Another switch VC topic? Can we just stop flogging the dead horse already?

Ah I get it you clever bastard.
CrAzY FiNgErS
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(07-07-2017, 02:40 AM)
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Originally Posted by ßig

Wow at that name.

Gotta ask about the significance of this name though. Is there some hidden meaning behind it that I am missing.
Fat4all
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(07-07-2017, 02:40 AM)
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Speely
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(07-07-2017, 02:41 AM)
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It stands for "future log" y'all.

Sheesh.
Producer
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(07-07-2017, 02:43 AM)
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I hope this emulator is good. So far every NES emulator on nintendo systems has been compromised in some form, with og wii being the all around best imo
Wereroku
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(07-07-2017, 02:43 AM)
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Wow I didn't realize modders were already reading the Switch's firmware.
dickroach
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(07-07-2017, 02:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by Speely

It stands for "future log" y'all.

Sheesh.

not as good as Super Future Log. i wonder if Nintendo's ever gonna reboot that series
Mihael Mello Keehl
(07-07-2017, 02:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by Fat4all

Lmao got put kimishima and miyamoto face on them
Platy
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(07-07-2017, 02:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by Speely

It stands for "future log" y'all.

Sheesh.

File Letsplayer Online Gaming
VendettaRed07
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(07-07-2017, 02:47 AM)
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It's flog, it's flog, emulation done as lazy as you could

It's flog, flog, it's no better than bad, it's not good!

You're gonna rebuy the same games again on flog

They're still overpriced on flog!
MrPressStart
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(07-07-2017, 03:21 AM)
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Hmm.. makes me wonder if there are other emulators? SNES??? N64? GameCube? Drool
miller.skippins
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(07-07-2017, 03:24 AM)
Please be excited.
Skittzo0413
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(07-07-2017, 03:25 AM)
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Yeah like the OP said the real news here is the emulator is actually embedded in the firmware so we likely won't see a different emulator for each game. That could mean we won't have to deal with the drip feed that we've previously had, though of course that's also a business decision.

Interesting news regardless.
J@hranimo
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(07-07-2017, 03:26 AM)
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NERD's definitely working on this.
Chesskid1
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(07-07-2017, 03:29 AM)
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it's for they can make the NES downloads smaller and save bandwidth
Gleethor
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(07-07-2017, 03:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by J@hranimo

NERD's definitely working on this.

VC is in good hands.
Adam_Roman
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(07-07-2017, 03:31 AM)
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I hope this means we won't have a dozen separate games on the main menu and instead like one app for "NES" that loads into an NES Classic style main menu.
MisterHero
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(07-07-2017, 03:34 AM)
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but will it upscale the games' resolution like on NES Classic?

That'd be cool
SatoAilDarko
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(07-07-2017, 03:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by Adam_Roman

I hope this means we won't have a dozen separate games on the main menu and instead like one app for "NES" that loads into an NES Classic style main menu.

Ummm... on 3DS and Wii U I already have all of my Virtual Console releases divided by systems using folders.

Also on PS3 in terms of PS1 and PS2 Classics.
Adam_Roman
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(07-07-2017, 04:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by SatoAilDarko

Ummm... on 3DS and Wii U I already have all of my Virtual Console releases divided by systems using folders.

Also on PS3 in terms of PS1 and PS2 Classics.

No folders on Switch though.
Clefargle
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(07-07-2017, 04:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by FireBeaver

Another switch VC topic? Can we just stop flogging the dead horse already?

Dun dun duuuuuun
KingBroly
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(07-07-2017, 04:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by Adam_Roman

No folders on Switch though.

It could just be its' own App, you know. Like that Game Room thing on 360, which was terrible...

NES app
SNES app
N64 app
J@hranimo
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(07-07-2017, 04:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gleethor

VC is in good hands.

Oh, I'm not saying they ARE doing it but hearing about a NES emulator and their work on the NES Mini that's what I'm expecting.
OrangeGrayBlue
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(07-07-2017, 04:29 AM)
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Neat, but I could probably count the number of NES games I still find compelling today on one hand. What I'm really hoping for is SNES, N64 and GC.
LelouchZero
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(07-07-2017, 04:30 AM)
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Wow this is cool! It would be great to see NES, SNES, N64 and GC games on the Switch!
SatoAilDarko
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(07-07-2017, 04:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by Gleethor

VC is in good hands.

M2 did excellent work on the Wii U GBA emulator. It was pretty well supported to with over 70 games.
arbok26
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(07-07-2017, 04:35 AM)
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Go on buy them all again!
mclem
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(07-07-2017, 10:19 AM)

Originally Posted by Speely

It stands for "future log" y'all.

Sheesh.

It's big, it's heavy, it's genetically engineered bio-wood.
-shadow-
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(07-07-2017, 10:21 AM)
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Curious if it's the same one (or based on) the one found in the NES Mini. That was with a few refinements was really great. Only the video noise, audio delay and epilepsy filter were things that needed some (slight) improvement. Can't wait for the full details!
Litri
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(07-07-2017, 10:23 AM)
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I'm getting excited with this. Let's see.
jts
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(07-07-2017, 10:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by GhostTrick

Unsurprising. They're planning to rent NES games with their paid online service as a "compensation".

But I guess the real surprise here is that the emulator is directly integrated into the firmware and not with each games anymore.

Unsurprising but surprising. That should cover all basis.
Jackano
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(07-07-2017, 10:30 AM)
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Always good to know even if it's a very tiny bit of information.

I'm also for this different architecture than the former game+emulator single package. Common wrapper and then game files is the way to go to be able to get some easily updatable common features.
c0de
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(07-07-2017, 10:32 AM)
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Originally Posted by J@hranimo

NERD's definitely working on this.

I think it's already done. NES mini was already arm.
SMD
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(07-07-2017, 10:34 AM)
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Finally, always thought their system was backward and redundant.
Fingers crossed this means we'll also get optimisations for the emulators during the lifespan of the Switch.

I want me some 1080p Thousand Year Door.

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