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UltimaPooh
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(08-10-2017, 12:50 AM)

Originally Posted by Soka

Let's say I have no home theater equipment. What's a mid-tier price range, roughly-speaking, for a 50-60" 4K TV, a 2.1 system, and a 4K Blu-ray player? $1,000-$2,000?

Mid range?

Probably this...

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N284JCN...ding=UTF8&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V38...amaha+receiver

x2 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Xbox-One-S-50...rds=xbox+one+s

Comes to $2125.95

Thats a Sony 900e, a yamaha receiver capable of 5.2 but you can make it so it does 2.1. Two standing speakers for stereo, a ten inch sub, and an xbox one s which allows you to play 4k blurays.
Marty Chinn
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(08-10-2017, 12:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by Soka

Let's say I have no home theater equipment. What's a mid-tier price range, roughly-speaking, for a 50-60" 4K TV, a 2.1 system, and a 4K Blu-ray player? $1,000-$2,000?

Mid tier is definitely not in the $1000 range. You're talking maybe $1300 for a TV, $400 for a receiver, $250 for a 4K BR player, and maybe about $300 for a 2.1 setup. It can be done for less, but then you start moving from mid tier down to entry level. I'd even say that might be borderline on the upper end of entry level on the receiver and speakers.

For comparison, I consider my 5.1 speakers/sub which cost about $1500 to still be in the mid tier range and that's before factoring in TV and receiver.
F34R
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(08-10-2017, 01:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by Oozer3993

It's looking like the digital copy of GotG2 that comes with the Bluray will not include the 4K Dolby Vision VUDU version:



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Co-sign. Tangled is excellent in 3D, and I'll give a special shout out to Moana which looks magnificent in 3 dimensions. Also, Guardians of the Galaxy and Avatar look great in 3D.



*sigh* Fine Disney, I will bow to your whims and import it even though I already have the US Steelbook.

That's unfortunate if GotG2 doesn't eventually redeem in uhd. :(
-griffy-
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(08-10-2017, 01:04 AM)

Originally Posted by Hex

Sadly this is rather common.
Though in most cases the UHD 4K will eventually open up on your VUDU account but it can take a while

I'm hoping it'll just unlock the 4K version on iTunes whenever they get that up and running.
Waikis
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(08-10-2017, 01:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by BumRush

Have you checked out the Epson 6040UB?

I'm looking into it as it's WAY more affordable than the Sony (true) 4K projectors, but has been getting incredible reviews.

http://www.projectorcentral.com/epso...tor-review.htm

There are YouTube clips out there (I fill send them to you if your interested) that showcase the projector.

I wouldn't really go for a 6040ub if your focus is HDR. The HDMI chip they use don't support 18gbps, and the WCG filter cuts too much light.

SDR looks fantastic though.
Roge_NES
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(08-10-2017, 01:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by Bobby Roberts

Okay! So I could actually make the jump to UHD while keeping my current 1080p projector and enjoy the increased color/contrast range.

That's really good to know.

I been using an Oppo UDP-203 + Benq W1070 (1080P) Projector and 150" screen and the results are gorgeous, with UHD Blurays you do benefit from the BT.2020 color space and bitrate, the player handles the downsampling to 1080P flawlessly.
Bobby Roberts
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(08-10-2017, 01:15 AM)
okay, shit, you guys are tempting the hell out of me now.
Jzero
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(08-10-2017, 01:31 AM)
Got my first UHD Bluray: John Wick
Blacks are looking good
jfoul
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(08-10-2017, 01:32 AM)
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What about 4K digital? Is this a thing yet? I'd rather have digital files, or rip UHD Blurays that I buy to a huge HDD.
ReplacementPelican
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(08-10-2017, 01:34 AM)
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Hi guys, quick question.

I see a lot of discussion about the digital redemptions being Dolby vision as opposed to their HDR10 disc counterparts - as a general rule of thumb though, surely the 4K disc has better image quality despite the inferior HDR, right?
-griffy-
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(08-10-2017, 01:37 AM)

Originally Posted by jfoul

What about 4K digital? Is this a thing yet? I'd rather have digital files, or rip UHD Blurays that I buy to a huge HDD.

Vudu has 4K HDR streaming titles for purchase, and the Apple Homepod firmware released to developers pretty much confirmed that a 4K AppleTV is coming, and people have noticed that some titles in certain regions on iTunes already seemingly mistakenly have 4K/HDR tags, so it's coming on iTunes sooner rather than later too.
NealMcCauley
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(08-10-2017, 01:37 AM)
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Best buy is doing their audiofest promo again. Looks like there's a clearance sale on the Magnolia-tier receivers.
Original Famous Ray
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(08-10-2017, 01:48 AM)
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That Oppo player sure is expensive. I guess if you want the best picture you gotta pay for it! I'm sure its far better than my Xbox One S but I don't want to spend 600 bones on a standalone player. Maybe this year's Black Friday sales will bless me with a deal.
Jzero
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(08-10-2017, 01:52 AM)
Holy shit these colors are beautiful 😭
UHD HDR only for me from now on.
Dave_6
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(08-10-2017, 02:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jzero

Got my first UHD Bluray: John Wick
Blacks are looking good

Wait till you watch the second one :O
mm04
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(08-10-2017, 03:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by Original Famous Ray

That Oppo player sure is expensive. I guess if you want the best picture you gotta pay for it! I'm sure its far better than my Xbox One S but I don't want to spend 600 bones on a standalone player. Maybe this year's Black Friday sales will bless me with a deal.

Oppos never go down in price, unless you buy a refurb and even then it's not much of a discount. The 103D I have now has actually gone up in value. I use that in conjunction with a Sony UBP-X800 UHD player. The reason Oppos are as expensive as they are is build quality, support and they play virtually any file type other than ISO (older versions with original firmware do) for mine. I use it to play all of my digital music collection, including 5.1 albums all FLAC encoded. Oh and it's silent. If/once DV really takes off, I'll get the 203. The only thing I use my Sony X800 for is 4k discs. Everything else is either streaming apps off my LG display or media files on the Oppo.
Dr.Horrible
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(08-10-2017, 03:50 AM)
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I've been eyeing the Sony 75x900e and will need a receiver to go with it. I have no ambitions for anything greater than 5.1, so this will work just fine to replace my current receiver, no?

https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V38...rds=yamaha+383
Westonian
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(08-10-2017, 03:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dr.Horrible

I've been eyeing the Sony 75x900e and will need a receiver to go with it. I have no ambitions for anything greater than 5.1, so this will work just fine to replace my current receiver, no?

https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V38...rds=yamaha+383

Depends. The THD rating looks abysmal, but if you're not an audiophile you might not care. The video support is good.
MrJames
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(08-10-2017, 04:00 AM)
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For the OP.

A database of UHD Blu-rays that redeem the digital code as UHD along with any specifics on how or where to redeem them.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...Htmh4/htmlview
Outtrigger888
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(08-10-2017, 04:06 AM)
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Watched the UHD version of guardians of the galaxy 2 last night on vudu. You guys waiting for the physical release are in for a treat.
peppermints
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(08-10-2017, 04:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by Outtrigger888

Watched the UHD version of guardians of the galaxy 2 last night on vudu. You guys waiting for the physical release are in for a treat.

How was the quality? Only UHD movie I've streamed was Fantastic Beasts on Google Play and I was kind of underwhelmed.
Dr.Horrible
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(08-10-2017, 04:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by Westonian

Depends. The THD rating looks abysmal, but if you're not an audiophile you might not care. The video support is good.

THD?
BumRush
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(08-10-2017, 04:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by Waikis

I wouldn't really go for a 6040ub if your focus is HDR. The HDMI chip they use don't support 18gbps, and the WCG filter cuts too much light.

SDR looks fantastic though.

Thanks! I'm not pulling the trigger on a projector for probably 2 years...and by then I'm sure there will be more realistic 4K options.
Zeyphersan
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(08-10-2017, 04:30 AM)

Originally Posted by jfoul

What about 4K digital? Is this a thing yet? I'd rather have digital files, or rip UHD Blurays that I buy to a huge HDD.

VUDU and Google Play do it now, Apple TV coming later this year (probably, not confirmed). VUDU has a list of compatible devices, mostly TVs: https://forum.vudu.com/showthread.ph...e-Devices-List

Donít know what Google Play works on, other than the Chromecast Ultra
Outtrigger888
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(08-10-2017, 04:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by peppermints

How was the quality? Only UHD movie I've streamed was Fantastic Beasts on Google Play and I was kind of underwhelmed.

I've watched a couple of UHD movies on VUDU and they've been fantastic. Havent watched anything on google play yet.
Westonian
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(08-10-2017, 04:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dr.Horrible

THD?

https://www.lifewire.com/total-harmo...ortion-3134704
peppermints
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(08-10-2017, 05:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by Outtrigger888

I've watched a couple of UHD movies on VUDU and they've been fantastic. Havent watched anything on google play yet.

What device? My TV has Vudu but it doesn't support 4K. My Fire TV doesn't have Vudu or support HDR. Really need to get the UHD Roku.
Outtrigger888
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(08-10-2017, 05:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by peppermints

What device? My TV has Vudu but it doesn't support 4K. My Fire TV doesn't have Vudu or support HDR. Really need to get the UHD Roku.

I have the TCL P607 with roku built in.
Hex
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(08-10-2017, 05:32 AM)
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Originally Posted by Soka

Let's say I have no home theater equipment. What's a mid-tier price range, roughly-speaking, for a 50-60" 4K TV, a 2.1 system, and a 4K Blu-ray player? $1,000-$2,000?

I paid $1600 ish for my tv, a 55" Sony 4K HDR android XBR-55X900C and I have a $150ish soundbar (I live in an apartment so more is overkill)
Roge_NES
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(08-10-2017, 05:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by Bobby Roberts

okay, shit, you guys are tempting the hell out of me now.

Here's some information and options you get with the Oppo BDP-203







holygeesus
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(08-10-2017, 06:27 AM)
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How does the Oppo handle forced subtitles in media files?
Roge_NES
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(08-10-2017, 06:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by holygeesus

How does the Oppo handle forced subtitles in media files?

Any examples you have in mind that I could test?
holygeesus
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(08-10-2017, 06:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by Roge_NES

Any examples you have in mind that I could test?

I meant more do files with forced subtitles detect successfully? On all my previous media players, you either have to have subtitles 'on' all the time, or switch on and off. One of my early Dune players was literally the only player I've ever had, that could detect flagged forced subtitles correctly. Basically, if you are watching subtitled films and are not noticing a problem, it must be all good.
Tapejara
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(08-10-2017, 07:11 AM)
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Another UHD Blu-ray player with Dolby Vision enters the market: https://www.whathifi.com/news/cambri...blu-ray-player

The CXUHD supports playback of 4K UHD Blu-ray discs and, in addition, HEVC, H.264, VP9 4K and Hi10P video decoding for use with user-generated content from camcorders, smartphones and the like. The CXUHD's pair of USB 3.0 ports, ethernet socket and integrated wi-fi also make playback of networked, hard-drive or stick-stored content simple. HDR is supported, as is Dolby Vision.

mechashiva
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(08-10-2017, 08:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by Oozer3993

It's looking like the digital copy of GotG2 that comes with the Bluray will not include the 4K Dolby Vision VUDU version:



----------------------



Co-sign. Tangled is excellent in 3D, and I'll give a special shout out to Moana which looks magnificent in 3 dimensions. Also, Guardians of the Galaxy and Avatar look great in 3D.



*sigh* Fine Disney, I will bow to your whims and import it even though I already have the US Steelbook.


Big Hero 6 [Blu-Ray 3D + 2D] [Region Free] [UK Import] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00SYEP5KY..._0caJzb00N70C4
kaizoku
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(08-10-2017, 09:15 AM)
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What have UK people been doing regards the way bigger selection in US? Waiting for UK releases? Importing from Amazon.com or Amazon.co.uk international sellers? Any specific tips?

I ask cos I remember when I used to import games using specific websites or retailers was much cheaper than others.
Apt101
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(08-10-2017, 09:18 AM)
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I recently watched the latest Bourne film on UHD, and it just didn't seem like it was 4K. I double and triple checked all of my settings (TV and XB1s, my UHD player). I couldn't figure it out.

Has anyone else seen this UHD? Am I just crazy?
Dpp1978
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(08-10-2017, 10:27 AM)

Originally Posted by Westonian

Depends. The THD rating looks abysmal, but if you're not an audiophile you might not care. The video support is good.

That's its maximum effective output power rating. It is not a real world metric. The rating to look at is the rated output. Which is 0.06% THD. Which is fine.
Kuroi Gogeta
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(08-10-2017, 10:36 AM)
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I'm new to the whole 4K wave. I got a samsung ku7000 40 inch TV, so far the only 4k content I've been able to access is some netflix shows. I get the sense that I'm not really seeing the true difference between high quality 1080p and 4k until I get a 4K blu-ray player, is the difference in quality going to be that huge between a 4k youtube or netflix stream and a 4k blu ray? and what calibration settings work best(If anyone else has the same TV)
Zeyphersan
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(08-10-2017, 10:38 AM)

Originally Posted by Kuroi Gogeta

I'm new to the whole 4K wave. I got a samsung ku7000 40 inch TV, so far the only 4k content I've been able to access is some netflix shows. I get the sense that I'm not really seeing the true difference between high quality 1080p and 4k until I get a 4K blu-ray player, is the difference in quality going to be that huge between a 4k youtube or netflix stream and a 4k blu ray? and what calibration settings work best(If anyone else has the same TV)

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sam...u7000/settings
ScaryShark
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(08-10-2017, 10:43 AM)

Originally Posted by Apt101

I recently watched the latest Bourne film on UHD, and it just didn't seem like it was 4K. I double and triple checked all of my settings (TV and XB1s, my UHD player). I couldn't figure it out.

Has anyone else seen this UHD? Am I just crazy?

It's a very accurate disc but it's not a showcase of the format. It's a pretty muted looking film and the UHD is more subdued than the BD is. It's more realistic but not as show-y.

The better question would be, what TV do you have and what other UHD discs have you seen on it?
Apt101
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(08-10-2017, 11:22 AM)
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Originally Posted by ScaryShark

It's a very accurate disc but it's not a showcase of the format. It's a pretty muted looking film and the UHD is more subdued than the BD is. It's more realistic but not as show-y.

The better question would be, what TV do you have and what other UHD discs have you seen on it?

I have some LG, I can't remember the exact model. 55". I own several other UHD movies and they seem fine. Like X-Men.
Slyonic
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(08-10-2017, 11:32 AM)
If my TV, Blu-ray player and A/V receiver all offer 4k upscaling, do I turn it on on each of them or do I need to find out which does the best job?
Dr.Horrible
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(08-10-2017, 11:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by Westonian

https://www.lifewire.com/total-harmo...ortion-3134704

Thanks

Originally Posted by Dpp1978

That's its maximum effective output power rating. It is not a real world metric. The rating to look at is the rated output. Which is 0.06% THD. Which is fine.

and thanks.

Now to determine if I finally take the plunge on a new TV that I don't really need :)
Syriel
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(08-10-2017, 12:20 PM)
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Any recommendations for a receiver that can handle Dolby Atmos and Vision?

Seen some options, but curious what the GAF crowd prefers.
faer0n
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(08-10-2017, 01:36 PM)

Originally Posted by Slyonic

If my TV, Blu-ray player and A/V receiver all offer 4k upscaling, do I turn it on on each of them or do I need to find out which does the best job?

If your BD Player ist upscaling to 4k, your Receiver and TV will Just Passthrough the 4k image
ReplacementPelican
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(08-10-2017, 01:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by Roge_NES

Here's some information and options you get with the Oppo BDP-203

Oh fucking Hell. I'd love one but the missus would kill me.
Cmerrill
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(08-10-2017, 01:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Apt101

I recently watched the latest Bourne film on UHD, and it just didn't seem like it was 4K. I double and triple checked all of my settings (TV and XB1s, my UHD player). I couldn't figure it out.

Has anyone else seen this UHD? Am I just crazy?

This is what I thought while watching The Fifth Element. I actually got up and checked the disc to make sure it wasn't the regular Blu-ray I put in.

Some UHD's are seriously unimpressive.
FLEABttn
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(08-10-2017, 02:20 PM)
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The Oppo-203 is the 4K UHD player I went with as well. I always wanted the 103 back when that was out but couldn't justify buying one over simply using my PS3 (which was a really solid blu-ray player to be fair). Not many players have Dolby Vision support and the LG is supposedly very noisy with mediocre build quality. The Oppo is neither.
Stanng243
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(08-10-2017, 02:45 PM)
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This might be slightly off topic, but does anyone know a good place to get the digital copies for a decent price? I can't afford a 4k tv yet, but I'm trying to build up my digital library in the meantime,

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