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Atheerios
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(08-17-2017, 05:55 PM)
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If you haven't updated your Switch to version 3.0.1 yet and are interested in homebrew you are in luck as a huge exploit has been found on firmware 3.0.0.

Exploit description from Switchbrew:

Prior to 3.0.1, the service manager ("sm") built-in system module treats a user as though it has full permissions if the user creates a new "sm:" port session but bypasses initialization.
In 3.0.1, "sm" returns error code 0x415 if Initialize has not been called yet.

This is huge because it gives anyone full permissions to any service in the OS.


SciresM, a known 3DS (and currently Switch) hacker said on Twitter:

It can't be understated how big this bug was. If you want switchhax, don't update to 3.0.1. It might take significantly longer if you do.

For context: the sm bug is what's enabled basically everything from game-romfs/savefile/sysmodule code dumping to even other known bugs. RIP

With this exploit, the Switch has been hacked. Now it's just a matter of time for the release of the first usable exploit for end users. Homebrew is coming.
roytheone
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(08-17-2017, 05:57 PM)
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If we get emulators before a virtual console.....
Xando
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(08-17-2017, 05:57 PM)
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Can we get a browser now
Triforce141
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(08-17-2017, 05:57 PM)
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Super Meat Boy with the original soundtrack, Binding of Isaac and Skyrim mods, custom Mario Odyssey mods, endless possibilities

And the obvious other "things" to come with homebrew
BY2K
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(08-17-2017, 05:58 PM)
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So it's already fixed on 3.0.1?
Rellik
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(08-17-2017, 05:58 PM)
Now I'm interested in a Switch.
Atheerios
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(08-17-2017, 05:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by BY2K

So it's already fixed on 3.0.1?

Yes.
JohnTinker
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(08-17-2017, 05:58 PM)
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Somewhere under the depths of Kyoto, a katana is unsheathed
Audioboxer
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(08-17-2017, 05:59 PM)
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Nintendo gonna start banning more often and more frequently just like Sony/MS.
Gaspard
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(08-17-2017, 05:59 PM)
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Oh wowza, excited for emulation perks
KratosEnergyDrink
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(08-17-2017, 05:59 PM)

Originally Posted by Rellik

Now I'm interested in a Switch.

But you probably won't get one with Firmware 3.0.0 at retail anymore. And F3.0.0 users will probably not get online mp or eShop without an update.
Shiggy
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(08-17-2017, 05:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by Triforce141

That means Super Meat Boy will have the original soundtrack again

What's the story behind that? Did they need to remove the original soundtrack from subsequent releases?
Gator86
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(08-17-2017, 05:59 PM)
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Fuuuuuuck, got around to setting up my new Switch last night and it updated to 3.01.
Diprosalic
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(08-17-2017, 05:59 PM)
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Not really a big deal as not many will have 3.0 but not 3.0.1
kami_sama
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(08-17-2017, 05:59 PM)
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Well, won't be able to use this, as I already have 3.0.1 and I still want to be able to use the eshop.
Kouriozan
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(08-17-2017, 05:59 PM)
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Too late for most people I guess.
I'm curious if they will be able to modify/add themes.
Hero_of_the_Day
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(08-17-2017, 06:00 PM)
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I'm curious if there will be a way to manually upgrade to 3.0 if you are on older firmware, without jumping right up to the latest.
-shadow-
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(08-17-2017, 06:00 PM)
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I assume most would already have updated their firmware. Weird that Nintendo has such seemingly sloppy protection in the Switch after the 3DS.
Gaiaknight
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(08-17-2017, 06:00 PM)
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I need to be ableto play splatoon online so sorry homebrew you have to take a massive backseat to online multiplayer.
Rellik
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(08-17-2017, 06:00 PM)

Originally Posted by KratosEnergyDrink

But you probably won't get one with Firmware 3.0.0 at retail anymore.

True. They'll probably be on eBay for double the price.

But hopefully this leads to cracking it open on current/future OS versions.
Crimsonclaw111
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(08-17-2017, 06:01 PM)
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If only something was said, you know, before most people updated.
Triforce141
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(08-17-2017, 06:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shiggy

What's the story behind that? Did they need to remove the original soundtrack from subsequent releases?

Every single port after the inital Steam and Xbox Live release has gotten an entirely different soundtrack due to Team Meat and the original composer having a falling out
Sami+
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(08-17-2017, 06:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by JohnTinker

Somewhere under the depths of Kyoto, a katana is unsheathed

Lmao
LordGorchnik
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(08-17-2017, 06:02 PM)
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Yeah this is too little too late for most people. I believe you have to be on Firmware 3.2.0 to play Splatoon online.
Krakn3Dfx
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(08-17-2017, 06:03 PM)
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Hopefully N is able to contain the bad that comes with this, would be a shame to see the system go the way of the PSP/Wii U. I'm a huge fan of the homebrew community, but it seems like the good stuff is always followed by the bad.
pretty done
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(08-17-2017, 06:04 PM)
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I'm down to hack mine for some virtual console. We know Nintendo ain't doing it in a timely manner so this will do.

I wanna play Mario 64 on my Switch. This is on you Nintendo.
zelas
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(08-17-2017, 06:05 PM)
Um, wow.

Seems like we'll never have to worry about offenses like this anymore



Originally Posted by Gaiaknight

I need to be ableto play splatoon online so sorry homebrew you have to take a massive backseat to online multiplayer.

Like almost every other case, there will likely be ways to bypass those requirements and allow people to play online with spoofed firmware versions
thefil
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(08-17-2017, 06:05 PM)
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Darn, updated to get on the eShop for the Monster Hunter XX demo.
NewDust
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(08-17-2017, 06:05 PM)
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All I need is youtube and I'm in.
ornery
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(08-17-2017, 06:05 PM)
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If homebrew is on the horizon, I'll go Switch shopping
Hero_of_the_Day
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(08-17-2017, 06:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by LordGorchnik

Yeah this is too little too late for most people. I believe you have to be on Firmware 3.2.0 to play Splatoon online.

3.2? Mine is 3.0.1 and says it's up to date?

I have another Switch brand new sitting in a closet. I'm curious if there will be a way to update it to 3.0 manually, or if anyone on older firmware will be fucked also. Guess we'll see.
Kysen
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(08-17-2017, 06:06 PM)
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Reminds me of the PSP v1.0 firmware that was basically open before 1.5 slightly tied stuff down.
Grylvak
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(08-17-2017, 06:08 PM)
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I can't remember if I updated to 3.0.1 yet and i'm hoping I didn't. This will be interesting to see how this progresses.
Kalor
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(08-17-2017, 06:11 PM)
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I'm surprised this happened so quickly. You would think that Nintendo would be slightly better about their security after the 3DS was blown open.
LordKano
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(08-17-2017, 06:13 PM)
Lol at this discovery happening after everyone already updated.
Linkstrikesback
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(08-17-2017, 06:13 PM)
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Ugh, way too early in the consoles lifecycle for my liking. As if third parties need another excuse.
longlivegaming
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(08-17-2017, 06:14 PM)
Already updated thanks to Sonic Mania...
spons
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(08-17-2017, 06:15 PM)
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If the 3DS thought us anything there will be many more exploits to be found.
tearsintherain
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(08-17-2017, 06:15 PM)
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Bought a new switch two days ago, already updated to 3.01. Oh well :(
friskykillface
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(08-17-2017, 06:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by LordKano

Lol at this discovery happening after everyone already updated.

Pretty much
Decided to play some splatoon on Tuesday and updated the system
Welp
BitStyle
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(08-17-2017, 06:18 PM)
If it means I can get classic console emulation than I welcome this. Getting tired of the complete silence on the VC front.
Anoregon
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(08-17-2017, 06:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by roytheone

If we get emulators before a virtual console.....

I will be happy if this happens. I have a mighty need for my switch to be the ultimate tv/portable classic rom machine.
peanutbutterlatte
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(08-17-2017, 06:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by Triforce141

Every single port after the inital Steam and Xbox Live release has gotten an entirely different soundtrack due to Team Meat and the original composer having a falling out

Also why the Binding of Isaac remake has such shitty music.
Hero_of_the_Day
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(08-17-2017, 06:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by Linkstrikesback

Ugh, way too early in the consoles lifecycle for my liking. As if third parties need another excuse.

I'm talking completely out of my depth here, but Sony has effectively stopped people from being able to play new Vita games on hacked systems. They will straight up not run without upgrading your firmware, and the word on the streets is that there is nothing to be done about it. So, maybe Nintendo will figure out something similar if this exploit goes anywhere.
Immaculate
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(08-17-2017, 06:20 PM)
its only been 5 months lol

edit:oh its only homebrew
DeuceGamer
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(08-17-2017, 06:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by tearsintherain

Bought a new switch two days ago, already updated to 3.01. Oh well :(

Was it 3.0.1 out of the box, or did you update it?
LordKano
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(08-17-2017, 06:20 PM)

Originally Posted by Hero_of_the_Day

I'm talking completely out of my depth here, but Sony has effectively stopped people from being able to play new Vita games on hacked systems. They will straight up not run without upgrading your firmware, and the word on the streets is that there is nothing to be done about it. So, maybe Nintendo will figure out something similar if this exploit goes anywhere.

That's the case already, I think. You need to update your system to play Splatoon 2.
WhatNXt
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(08-17-2017, 06:23 PM)
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Maybe down the line there will be some creative hacks for <3.0.1 users that allow them to spoof versioning or to download and patch the updates, but ultimately the reason I wouldn't have tried this on Wii U until Breath of the Wild had released is the same reason I won't be trying anything like this on Switch. It's the same reason I never really dabbled with it on other systems until they were past their supported lifetime as well. Its just a game of cat and mouse, and I'd rather not be locked out of online services or games.

The best deterrent they can have for this sort of thing is including the features people want.
Hero_of_the_Day
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(08-17-2017, 06:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by LordKano

That's the case already, I think. You need to update your system to play Splatoon 2.

Stuff like that has always been the case. But, previously the hackers have figured out ways around it. I believe on the 3DS they just spoof the firmware number or some shit. The Vita is the first time I've heard of the company actually managing to totally stop it, to the point that the community has pretty well said it's never going to happen. Granted, the Vita is also essentially a dead system, so there isn't much motivation to even try.
Kolx
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(08-17-2017, 06:24 PM)
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I guess not using my switch since splatoon 2 beta paid off lol just checked and have 3.0 on my switch. Gonna wait before updating since I don't see any point of it right now.

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