Council Pop
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I wonder if third party developers will be allowed to enable built in voice chat on their games?
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Splatoon 2 over LAN has built-in voice chat
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UnemployedVillain
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What's unstable about interconnected Switches? I can't imagine being interconnected through an intermediary (the router), using the same wireless, is more stable than directly between devices
Only today I found out that WLAN is a thing, like how OP said you set it up, as it isn't even advertised on Nintendos site proper it tells you have to use a router and cables, what it don't tell you is you can can do it wirelessly to the router too.
Then with a few Switches & Carts you can have up to 12 on Mario Kart, and also double Joycons, no wires great.
And now this.
Then with a few Switches & Carts you can have up to 12 on Mario Kart, and also double Joycons, no wires great.
And now this.
Not sure. I imagine that the router does better job at keeping the wireless connection stable than the Switches when trying to be connected to all the other peers. Anyway the fact is that when we try to play Mario Kart 8D or Splatoon 2 via local wireless people get disconnected left and right, while bringing a router and having a LAN session is much more stable, actually I don't recall anyone being disconnected at all when we played like that.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Perhaps it worked only wired when that manual was written.
Shifty
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It will take many years of research and development to extract this functionality from the game and integrate it into the Switch OS
Please understand
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Connecting several devices into an ad-hoc shared network isn't going to be as performant as offloading that networking to a piece of dedicated external hardware.
Think of it as the difference between trying to directly daisy-chain several computers together into a LAN using ethernet cables versus simply plugging them all into one router.
If nobody makes one by Thursday I can try to take a video on the next pub session. Might have something sooner but there's not enough people with both a Switch (with Splatoon 2) and time to do this.
I had a friend test this out, and can confirm it worked for her and her partner. She is a Splatoon LAN tournament organiser, so we're very interested in the ins and outs of this feature. Unfortunately it was just a 1v1 and Salmon Run that they tested, but specifically:
1) Can hear each other in lobby
2) Can NOT hear each other in the match; since they are on opposite teams
3) Can hear each other in the Salmon Run match
so seems pretty promising for LAN tournaments
1) Can hear each other in lobby
2) Can NOT hear each other in the match; since they are on opposite teams
3) Can hear each other in the Salmon Run match
so seems pretty promising for LAN tournaments
Nice, thanks!
Coreda
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That was the idea, yeah. Something useful only for hacked devices. Obviously not holding my breath but it's interesting to consider.
stan423321
Member
Router probably has a way better antenna for both reception and repeating. And it has to have a good turn arbitration system to avoid devices talk overlapping while Nintendo could have botched that. And if not, that probably means host Switch acts as router for the rest - a non-dedicated one.
Candescence
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Yeah, the Swapnote controversy has likely made Nintendo extremely cautious when it comes to this sort of thing. And to be frank, public voice chat has a reputation for being a garbage fire. That being said, it's weird that it's just relegated to phone functionality since Splatoon doesn't have public voice chat regardless.
Nester
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Not Hamachi but a couple of friends and I have managed to connect 4 people over the internet in LAN mode using a similar VPN application.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/166852998
^Highlight of testing out just two of us at once.
On the topic of the OP, we ran into this headphone issue at a Splatoon 2 LAN we ran at a convention a few times. Had to force people to mute their microphones on their headsets because it echo'd the audio through our Spectator setup pretty badly.
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KidGalactus
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What's the swap note thing?
Candescence
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Basically, Swapnote on 3DS got gutted because pedophiles were using the SpotPass (aka internet connection, as opposed to local connection with StreetPass) functionality and actively communicating with minors, including sending and receiving porn, which caused a huge fuss at the time. Nintendo, being more sensitive to this sort of thing due to its family-friendly reputation, doesn't want a similar controversy on its hands again.
Jubenhimer
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So in that case, why are we forced to voice chat through our phones online? I wouldn't mind the app so much if it actually let us voice chat through the Switch itself. If it could just be used as a glorified remote while everything else was handled through the Switch, that wouldn't be a problem, and a good compromise. We know the Switch is capable of it thanks to this piece of evidence, so why is it taking Nintendo so long to make this avalivle online?
because they want it this way
Reptars Revenge
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Because they are the worst
Jubenhimer
Member
Well if they want the app to be integrated into the experience, fine. But let us do voice chat through the Switch hardware itself. The app can stay as a sort of remote used for adding people to the room or muting players. This is the problem, if the simply update the app with more functionality like that (which I hope they do) then people would be fine with it. All I'm asking for is compromise.
Until a big third party game comes out that uses voice chat on other systems we wont know, and I dont know any coming soon like that
TwilightPrincess
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Rocket League? The dev said he can't answer any questions about voice chat on Switch yet, so it will be interesting if it's there. I mean they got crossplay out of Nintendo, i hope they demand normal voice chat.
DarkConfidant
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Has anybody actually said this? I would hope not.
Yes. People have said lots of stupid things. People also thought Skyrim had a chance of being the 360 version. People are stupid.
You'd be surprised what reasons people came up with to defend Nintendo on here...
probably not given how many past consoles have supported voice chat
didn't the DS have some games with voice chat?
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
What's wrong if a game can provide all the team chat functionality without external equipment? And why would it aim for the highest quality - I'm sure the quality of the switch built-in hw codecs is more than enough.
Video proof from ign
http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/08...n-voice-chat-available-in-splatoon-2-lan-play
http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/08...n-voice-chat-available-in-splatoon-2-lan-play
UnemployedVillain
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What's wrong with it?
Dark Cloud
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And people keep saying Nintendo is behind even though their past systems had voice chat. It's just Nintendo making some dumb shit ideas by not letting us use it.
I hope they unlock it by the time we start paying for online.
So it's crap quality and didn't work with Mario Kart.
I hope they unlock it by the time we start paying for online.
So it's crap quality and didn't work with Mario Kart.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
I cannot comment about any DACs, but TX1 has a fairly dedicated mixer:
And by 'channel' they mean up to 24bit, 192KHz channels. So TX1's mixer can process up to input 10 streams, by 5 outputs at a time = 50 combinations to mix. I cannot imagine a situation where voice chat in something like splatoon would pose much of an issue for the hw.TX1 manual said:
DS had voice chat. Specifically Metroid prime hunters. Though that's in lobbies
So IGN read this thread and then proceeded to test?
butzopower
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Is this so at pro-gaming events (where you'd use LAN) teams wouldn't have to use the shitty app to communicate with each other?
I don't know the details, but playing Salmon Run locally and one different Switch would drop out almost every game. Putting it in LAN mode fixed it.
soxinthebox
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360 Skyrim??? It's so obviously being ported from PS3.
Oh -_-.
In that case I understand being overly cautious with voice chat. Still, you can find a way less clunkier than their solution, like the usual super simple "you can only voice chat with your friends" or the parental control app.
Wierd Wierd Nintendo.
The only reason they went the smartphone way is to get rid of any liability for children, I'm sure (they could have used the phone to unlock an integrated solution, though).
That's actually 1125899906842624 combinations unless I'm mistaken (though a bunch of them useless)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=243902970&postcount=138
Don't read the whole thread. It's too sad.