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Crimsonclaw111
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(08-29-2017, 08:57 PM)
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https://support.codefusion.technolog...cMania_8ahn2e/

DEAR 'SONIC MANIA' PLAYER,

If you’ve reached this page by launching 'Sonic Mania', the quickest way to start the game is to copy the Response code you receive from this page into the in-game message box that brought you here, and click the “Finish” button.

Two week delay for "polishing" eh?
FireBeaver
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(08-29-2017, 08:57 PM)
Boooooo. Fuck you Sega.
RRockman
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(08-29-2017, 08:58 PM)
Boom.


We all knew it was coming.


I'm so sorry PC GAF. :(
Mesoian
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(08-29-2017, 08:59 PM)
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Jesus. Getting a refund two weeks ago and buying it on Switch seems like it was THE move.
Sylverstone14
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(08-29-2017, 08:59 PM)
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Ouch.
Foffy
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(08-29-2017, 08:59 PM)
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I suppose this was the reason the Taxman talked about some real life thing with identification and authentication with humans a few weeks ago.

Fair to bet Sonic Forces has it too.
mysteriousmage09
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(08-29-2017, 08:59 PM)
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On a $20 game that will be cracked in 24 hours. Wtf is the point?
ryushe
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(08-29-2017, 09:00 PM)
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This is still a thing, huh?
tesqui
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(08-29-2017, 09:00 PM)
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Was it delayed to implement Denuvo?
TrumanBurbank
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(08-29-2017, 09:00 PM)
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Mifec
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(08-29-2017, 09:01 PM)
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AA cheap game using Denuvo. What a waste of money on Sega's part when it gets cracked 10 days after release.
GhostTrick
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(08-29-2017, 09:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mifec

AA cheap game using Denuvo. What a waste of money on Sega's part when it gets cracked 10 days after release.



They spend shiton of money and delayed it, hence losing more sales, for a DRM that will lead to... more lost sales.
Crimsonclaw111
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(08-29-2017, 09:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by tesqui

Was it delayed to implement Denuvo?

"polish"

AKA anti-piracy. Also, RIP mods (the only reason I wanted this on PC over anything else)
s_mirage
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(08-29-2017, 09:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by tesqui

Was it delayed to implement Denuvo?

That would be the implication, especially with Taxman's tweet around the time that the delay was announced.
Yohane
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(08-29-2017, 09:03 PM)
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2+ weeks delay just to implement Denuvo.

No way I'm gonna support this shit.

Fuck you Sega, I'm gonna buy this game on ps4 on sale.
Gamezone
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(08-29-2017, 09:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mifec

AA cheap game using Denuvo. What a waste of money on Sega's part when it gets cracked 10 days after release.

That's been done before. Back then Denuvo actually worked. Not anymore.
ckaneo
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(08-29-2017, 09:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by s_mirage

That would be the implication, especially with Taxman's tweet around the time that the delay was announced.

What did he say
Mifec
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(08-29-2017, 09:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by GhostTrick

They spend shiton of money and delayed it, hence losing more sales, for a DRM that will lead to... more lost sales.

Agents of Mayhem took 10 days, I wonder how long this takes, prolly has less checks.

Originally Posted by Gamezone

That's been done before. Back then Denuvo actually worked. Not anymore.

Yeah I know, but I'm talking about this specifically. Like you said it's not worth it since it will get cracked in less than 2 weeks.
Guess Who
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(08-29-2017, 09:05 PM)
Opinions on Denuvo aside, there’s not any indication that it was delayed specifically to add Denuvo - the PC version does include a number of bug fixes and at least one new gameplay feature that aren’t in the console version.
Chacranajxy
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(08-29-2017, 09:05 PM)
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Cool. I bought it on the Switch, but I guess I won't be buying it on PC. Though honestly, I guess I wouldn't have rebought it on PC unless it was actually DRM-free.

Anyway, shit's bogus.
s_mirage
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(08-29-2017, 09:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by ckaneo

What did he say

https://twitter.com/CFWhitehead/stat...47063024025602

EDIT: It could just have been a coincidence, but given that Denuvo's now confirmed it seems less likely.
Puruzi
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(08-29-2017, 09:05 PM)
Fucking god damn it, I knew this is why they delayed it.

Denuvo fucks with Mods right? I really wanted to play with mods people would have made on this version, shit sucks yo
Crimsonclaw111
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(08-29-2017, 09:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by Guess Who

Opinions on Denuvo aside, there’s not any indication that it was delayed specifically to add Denuvo - the PC version does include a number of bug fixes and at least one new gameplay feature that aren’t in the console version.

What's the new gameplay feature?
GhostTrick
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(08-29-2017, 09:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by Guess Who

Opinions on Denuvo aside, there’s not any indication that it was delayed specifically to add Denuvo - the PC version does include a number of bug fixes and at least one new gameplay feature that aren’t in the console version.



2 weeks of delay seems like too much of a round number to not be sales related.
ChosenPredator
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(08-29-2017, 09:06 PM)

Originally Posted by Mifec

AA cheap game using Denuvo. What a waste of money on Sega's part when it gets cracked 10 days after release.

yeah whenever I hear a game has Denuvo i know it's going to be heavily cracked, they sort of make it a mission when it comes to games with denuvo they might as well get rid of it
Pie and Beans
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(08-29-2017, 09:06 PM)
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Haha, now I feel like a fucking champion for cancelling my Steam copy and getting the PS4 version.
LordKano
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(08-29-2017, 09:06 PM)
Aaron Webber encourages you to complain about the DRM on the link here :
https://support.sega.co.uk/hc/en-us/requests/new

https://twitter.com/RubyEclipse/stat...08083200819200
Joey Ravn
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(08-29-2017, 09:06 PM)

Originally Posted by tesqui

Was it delayed to implement Denuvo?

Probably to "secure" console sales and "doubly secure" the game with Denuvo.

Maybe Denuvo was there all along, who knows. But I can help doubting that they had so much trouble getting the PC version to run consistently that they needed two extra weeks to work on the game.

I have my copy of the game on Switch, though. I was planning on buying it on PC, but got it cheaper on Switch. That was the right move in the end, now that we know Denuvo is in this release...
-Gozer-
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(08-29-2017, 09:06 PM)
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I haven't bought a game since Bleed 2 was released. I was really looking forward to this.

Too bad I don't own any other platforms to buy this on.

My post from the OT:

Originally Posted by -Gozer-

I preordered this a few days before the the delay on pc. I certainly wasn't to happy about that but if it was delayed to fix some issues then fine. I thought the people who believed that the delay was due to Sega adding Denuvo to the game a bit paranoid but certainly not out of the realm of possibility. Turns out that's exactly what the delay was for.

I'm not even going to bother downloading this. I'm getting an immediate refund.

Atolm
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(08-29-2017, 09:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mesoian

Jesus. Getting a refund two weeks ago and buying it on Switch seems like it was THE move.

It totally was. At least for me.
Guess Who
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(08-29-2017, 09:07 PM)

Originally Posted by Crimsonclaw111

What's the new gameplay feature?

A separate button for activating Super Sonic rather than pressing jump again while in the air, such that you aren’t basically forced to transform into Super Sonic once you have it unlocked.
jasminlovesyoux
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(08-29-2017, 09:07 PM)
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The PC delay alone got me to buy the switch version. The denovo implementation might not have deterred me had they came out the same day.
HKA6A7
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(08-29-2017, 09:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by Puruzi

Fucking god damn it, I knew this is why they delayed it.

Denuvo fucks with Mods right?
I really wanted to play with mods people would have made on this version, shit sucks yo

Yep, that's the reason Bethesda games like FO4 and Skyrim Special Edition doesn't have Denuvo.
Same with XCOM2.

A shame, considering the background of some developers that work on the game.
Crimsonclaw111
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(08-29-2017, 09:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by Guess Who

A separate button for activating Super Sonic rather than pressing jump again while in the air, such that you aren’t basically forced to transfer into Super Sonic once you have it unlocked.

That isn't what I expected for a two week delay...
Slightly Live
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(08-29-2017, 09:08 PM)
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Terrible move by Sega. What a way to dampen the incredibly positive reception the game has got so far.
To Far Away Times
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(08-29-2017, 09:09 PM)
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This game is too good and too important to the franchise's future to just shit it up with Denuvo.
Guess Who
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(08-29-2017, 09:09 PM)

Originally Posted by Crimsonclaw111

That isn't what I expected for a two week delay...

Two weeks is a pretty tiny amount of time in game development, so that’s exactly the kind of feature they can implement on such a short turnaround.
Crimsonclaw111
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(08-29-2017, 09:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by LordKano

Aaron Webber encourages you to complain about the DRM on the link here :
https://support.sega.co.uk/hc/en-us/requests/new

https://twitter.com/RubyEclipse/stat...08083200819200

So not only was it delayed with Denuvo added, but they knew a shitstorm was coming?

Sega
Azure Dream
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(08-29-2017, 09:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by LordKano

Aaron Webber encourages you to complain about the DRM on the link here :
https://support.sega.co.uk/hc/en-us/requests/new

https://twitter.com/RubyEclipse/stat...08083200819200

Did my part. What an awful decision. And with no prior official warning, to my knowledge.
Piston Hyundai
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(08-29-2017, 09:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by LordKano

Aaron Webber encourages you to complain about the DRM on the link here :
https://support.sega.co.uk/hc/en-us/requests/new

https://twitter.com/RubyEclipse/stat...08083200819200

interesting that he links to SEGA.co.uk

guess it was a SEGA of Europe decision
Carlius
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(08-29-2017, 09:10 PM)
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oh geez...i guess am going to have to buy it then.
flaxknuckles
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(08-29-2017, 09:11 PM)
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Striking this game off my buy list.
Guess Who
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(08-29-2017, 09:11 PM)

Originally Posted by Piston Hyundai

interesting that he links to SEGA.co.uk

guess it was a SEGA of Europe decision

iirc doesn’t SoE run the “PC publishing” arm of Sega these days?
charpunk
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(08-29-2017, 09:11 PM)
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I really don’t get the point of denuvo now that it’s getting cracked within days and not months.
R10Neymarfan
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(08-29-2017, 09:11 PM)
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At least if people complain then Sega might remove it after a few weeks
Stevey
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(08-29-2017, 09:13 PM)
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Never seen the problem with Denuvo
Kouriozan
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(08-29-2017, 09:13 PM)
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Wot, this is really surprising and kinda unnecessary. Nowadays Denovo gets cracked pretty quickly and the game already released 2 weeks ago everywhere else.
Azure Dream
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(08-29-2017, 09:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by R10Neymarfan

At least if people complain then Sega might remove it after a few weeks

And do the same thing all over again with Sonic Forces PC.
Linkstrikesback
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(08-29-2017, 09:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by Guess Who

A separate button for activating Super Sonic rather than pressing jump again while in the air, such that you aren’t basically forced to transform into Super Sonic once you have it unlocked.

See, that would have been worth a two week delay to me if it didn't come with a downside (in this case, Denuvo for PC, not that I was ever going to play it on PC in the first place)
Kneefoil
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(08-29-2017, 09:14 PM)
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Oh... Well, that sucks. I'm sure it'll get cracked soon and then removed though. Not giving up on mods yet.

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