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FrankCanada97
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(10-08-2017, 01:26 AM)
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Low-fuel 787 had to declare Mayday repeatedly to Indian ATC

Investigators have disclosed that a diverted Air Canada Boeing 787-9's crew had to declare a Mayday four times over a low-fuel situation before being given approach clearance to Hyderabad.

The aircraft had originally been bound for Mumbai but was shuttled between alternate airports owing to capacity problems.
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The aircraft (C-FGEI), which departed Toronto on 18 September, had been operating AC46 to Mumbai with 177 passengers and 14 crew members.

But Mumbai air traffic controllers cancelled the approach after a runway excursion involving another aircraft. The bulletin does not specifically identify this incident, but a SpiceJet Boeing 737-800 suffered an excursion shortly before the 787's arrival.

The Canadian bulletin says the 787 entered a hold for 1h but its crew then opted to divert to their alternate.

It does not identify the alternate but states that air traffic control informed the crew that they could not be accommodated owing to reaching maximum capacity.

The crew then chose to divert a second time to Hyderabad, after consulting with the carrier's operations centre, only to be informed by air traffic control en route that Hyderabad had already reached maximum capacity and could not handle the flight.

According to the bulletin Air Canada informed investigators that air traffic control "continued trying to divert the flight or attempted to place it in another hold", adding that the crew had to declare a Mayday over the aircraft's low-fuel situation four times before being cleared for a straight-in approach to Hyderabad's runway 09L.

Flight AC46, which has a scheduled duration of around 14h 30min, had been operating for around 17h at the time of arrival. The aircraft landed safely.


Pictured above is the incident aircraft: C-FGEI



Pictured above is the aircraft that caused C-FGEI to divert: VT-SGZ


Pictured above is C-FGEI's flightpath

Unknown Soldier
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(10-08-2017, 01:33 AM)
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Airport overcrowding is a real problem because of how explosively a lot of these cities have grown and airport expansion and construction has simply not kept pace.

There's a running joke in China that they don't have traffic jams, they have airplane jams.
catmincer
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(10-08-2017, 01:34 AM)
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Note to self, never fly to India.
Kabuki Waq
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(10-08-2017, 01:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by catmincer

Note to self, never fly to India.


Never fly Air Canada either.
NotTheGuyYouKill
(10-08-2017, 01:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kabuki Waq

Never fly Air Canada either.

I'm flying Air Canada in two weeks to the UK :/
FrankCanada97
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(10-08-2017, 01:41 AM)
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Originally Posted by NotTheGuyYouKill

I'm flying Air Canada in two weeks to the UK :/

It's just hyperbole about the horrible service North American air carriers have.
LakeEarth
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(10-08-2017, 01:42 AM)
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Originally Posted by NotTheGuyYouKill

I'm flying Air Canada in two weeks to the UK :/

Don't worry, they haven't had a fatal crash since 1983. Though the events of this year isn't ... great...
Jason Frost
(10-08-2017, 01:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kabuki Waq

Never fly Air Canada either.

C'mon, that's low, low on fuel.
Zenner
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(10-08-2017, 01:45 AM)
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They are very lucky, especially after being given the runaround. A 2016 flight to Colombia actually did run out of fuel, about 5 miles shy of the runway; it did not end well.
Morgenstern
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(10-08-2017, 01:46 AM)

Originally Posted by Kabuki Waq

Never fly Air Canada either.

If your comment has to do with the circumstances in this situation, I would say it was out of the pilots' control. Now if you just mean in general, well they're certainly better than most airlines in Canada and the US...although they pale in comparison to assorted Asian and European providers.
Jeffrey
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(10-08-2017, 01:47 AM)
Man and I was just on a air Canada 787 a few weeks ago. Love that plane. The dimming windows are great.


Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

Airport overcrowding is a real problem because of how explosively a lot of these cities have grown and airport expansion and construction has simply not kept pace.

There's a running joke in China that they don't have traffic jams, they have airplane jams.

Not really a joke. Everytime I fly out of Shanghai pudong Airport I'm stuck on the ground for at least 45 min in "traffic". Luckily it does seem like they factor that in for connecting flight planning lol.
Syriel
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(10-08-2017, 01:49 AM)
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Originally Posted by LakeEarth

Don't worry, they haven't had a fatal crash since 1983. Though the events of this year isn't ... great...

Originally Posted by Morgenstern

If your comment has to do with the circumstances in this situation, I would say it was out of the pilots' control. Now if you just mean in general, well they're certainly better than most airlines in Canada and the US...although they pale in comparison to assorted Asian and European providers.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...test-aviation/

We had a thread.
LakeEarth
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(10-08-2017, 01:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey

Man and I was just on a air Canada 787 a few weeks ago. Love that plane. The dimming windows are great.

I flew in one of those planes in June, first plane I've been in with those. The whole plane felt very modern, especially considering I had just got off on a rickety propeller plane an hour earlier.

Originally Posted by Syriel

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...test-aviation/

We had a thread.

I was clearly referring to that when I said "the events this year".
BlazinSkatinAxel
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(10-08-2017, 01:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kabuki Waq

Never fly Air Canada either.

Morgenstern
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(10-08-2017, 01:52 AM)

Originally Posted by Syriel

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...test-aviation/

We had a thread.

Ah, I forgot about incident. Now I understand.
Holmes
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(10-08-2017, 01:54 AM)
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fwiw Air Canada's better than almost every US airline. And is one of only two airlines that flies to my hometown :/
j_k_redtail
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(10-08-2017, 02:25 AM)

Originally Posted by FrankCanada97

Low-fuel 787 had to declare Mayday repeatedly to Indian ATC

Not to make light of a serious situation, but looking at that flightpath I imagine the pilots clearing their throats politely and apologizing with every pass.
catmincer
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(10-08-2017, 04:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kabuki Waq

Never fly Air Canada either.

I have, Both normal and Rouge.

Air Canada was ok for a 3 hour flight from LAX-YVR. Rogue fucking sucked though omg. The 767 was like 30 years old.

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