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(04-21-2012, 03:23 PM)
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Not at all, a number of pros use the Canon 100mm Macro lens for portrait shots. There is one macro lens that is purpose build for macro use only and that is the Canon MP-E 65mm; it's gorgeous, I want it, but I can't justify it.
It looks like you've basically made a miniature studio there. If you're trying for product shots, you may want to try making a lightbox out of the equipment you have and a cardboard box. You'll get more even lighting and more flattering shadows. Something like this should do the trick.
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Oooh, thanks for the link. I think I know what I'm going to make next. The construction of the studio is pretty fun.
Also about macro lenses, it's good to know that they're alright as regular lenses too. I think I might have heard somewhere that the Sony 30mm Macro isn't great as a regular lens so I thought it applied to all lenses. |
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Few other things you might want to think about trying: - get yourself a plain black shiny ball and balance it on a rod in the middle of your setup (use a hollow tube so the ball sits on it - do not do as I did and try to NAIL a ball to a rod, it does not work). You can see in the black ball all the reflections and light sources that affect your image and it's a really quick way of shutting down things you don't want. - for small objects, try using a narrow depth of field with multiple backgrounds at different distances, gives you a nice blurry background distance thing - also try lighting the background separately from the subject - try turning the whole thing round 90 degrees on the table so you can use more raking side lighting - Get a really big cardboard box and paint it matt black inside. that way you'll be able to shoot against a perfectly black background easily (I never got it right with black paper, too much stray light) Maybey get ahold of one of those big floor-or-bracket-mounted Anglepoises so you can light from above too Your image links aren't showing up for me, but good luck anyhow. Have fun!
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(04-22-2012, 04:15 PM)
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Another what lens should I buy post incoming...
I bought a Canon 500D two years ago. I decided to skip out on the kit 18-55mm lens and went for the 50mm f/1.8 lens that was both cheap and got recommended a lot here at gaf. Recently my 50mm lens broke, and I need to buy a new one, regardless it was time for another lens. The 50mm was great for it's price, but often I've felt pretty tight, having to step back in order to not crop too much of the shot. So I'm pretty set on getting a zoom lens starting from ~18mm. Some (very) quick searching brought me to the EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6, and EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6. I've found that they pretty much cost the same(both in the budget class), so initially I leaned towards the 18-135mm, having both a wider aperture and focal length. But the 17-85mm has a better motor, and a quick glance at reviews seems to put it in a better light... Any suggestions? It would be cool to go to 135mm, but I'm still a novice and I'm not sure how much I need it, especially when it compromises other things. (I hate the world of lenses, you always end up compromising :p)
Thanks
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(04-22-2012, 05:38 PM)
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Metroid Killer, for that budget, I would suggest a lens that basically lives on my 7D. It's around the same price as the lenses you've suggested and I think it'll do you quite well as a walkaround lens of excellent quality for the price.
Tamron 17-50/2.8 (non-VC) That 2.8 aperture is going to give you a lot of versatility, especially in comparison to the two lenses you've suggested. The AF isn't USM, it is very quick, it just makes a bit of noise. For the price, that really isn't a big deal and you get used to it; if you've used the Canon 50/1.8, you get the idea of what you're in for in this department. The quality of the pictures it produces is amazing, especially considering the price. The Canon 17-55/2.8 IS does edge it out it quality, but it costs twice as much and isn't worth paying the difference in my book. I recommend the non-VC (Tamron's version of IS) because it is sharper than the VC version. With 2.8 at those focal lengths, it isn't that likely you'll need it. It really is criminal that this lens is such good value. Perfect for beginners and experienced photographers alike. The only time I'll think about upgrading from mine is if I ever move to a 5D, which will make the Tamron unusable, then I'll grab a Canon 24-70/2.8 and not a minute sooner. Good luck and have fun with whichever lens you end up choosing. |
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(04-22-2012, 05:57 PM)
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Thanks for the quick reply! And you hit it pretty spot on in how you described it together with the 50/1.8. I will have to look into it this week.
Dat 2.8 aperture indeed. I would love for the focal length to be longer than 50mm though, but it always seems to compromise the aperture. Decisions, decisions... And yeah just checked out the prices on the Canon 17-55/2.8 IS you mentioned, holy shit... too expensive...
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(04-23-2012, 09:37 AM)
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Also, where would you normally get a shiny black ball? |
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Saved by a Harley dude (04-23-2012, 03:50 PM)
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There are some downsides to using macro lenses in "normal" situations, mainly slow focus, not as sharp at infinity, some of them lose maximum aperture when focused closely (like a zoom). None of this really matters for macro work, but can (not always) impact other uses. |
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(04-23-2012, 04:19 PM)
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See my reply to Metroid Killer a few posts up for more detail regarding the Tamron 17-50/2.8 (non-VC). It's a great lens that, whilst not having the reach of the 17-85mm, will give you great quality images, flexibility in varied light conditions, and it is a robust lens.
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(04-23-2012, 04:56 PM)
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I'm assuming you're after a walk-around lens. If that is the case, as far as I can think of the variety of lenses out there, you have 3 options.
A wider lens is more versatile than a lens which reaches that little bit further. If your back is up against a wall with a longer focal length, you're out of luck. If you need to zoom in a bit more, especially if it's only 35mm, that's just a few short steps forward. Of course if you're on the edge of the water or on a bridge, that's not possible, but those circumstances can usually be planned for and a longer lens would be required anyway e.g. 70-200mm. There may be other lenses out there that are better suited to the job, but I can't think of any. Hopefully someone else can stick their head in and suggest something. But as a walk-around lens (if that's what this is for), to make sure you miss as few opportunities as possible, I think the 17-50/2.8 is your best bet. Good luck in your search. |
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Saved by a Harley dude (04-24-2012, 08:53 PM)
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Got my 17-55 back from Canon!
They replaced the filter barrel, the main barrel and the zoom control for $0! I only had to pay $100 for labor and shipping! Pretty happy! :) |
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and have a good day (04-24-2012, 11:50 PM)
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Someone just offered me a Nikon Coolpix P90, Nikon N90 body, a Canon FD 50mm, and a Vivitar Series 1 70-210 for $300. I am pressed for cash right now, but that sounds like a pretty good deal. The P90 itself still retails for $500+ from what I see, and even if all I'm getting is that + the N90 it seems to be a pretty sweet bargain. Any input from you guys? Anyone have experience with this equipment?
I already have a 7D and some good lenses, but have been looking for something more lightweight to carry with me when I don't want to lug around my more expensive gear.
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there is joy in sucking dick
(04-25-2012, 12:13 AM)
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Not sure about some of the other items but you won't be able to use the FD lens with Canon's DSLRs (extreme mount difference). I think the Vivitar zoom lens is actually interesting, it should be adaptable and its a nice cheap way to be able to shoot at 200mm.
Edit: Actually it depends on the mount with the Vivitar. If its coming with the FD 50 it may also be an FD mount lens. FD lenses are easily adapted to mirrorless bodies since their mount to sensor distance is very short.
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point your penis at me,
and have a good day (04-25-2012, 12:19 AM)
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Tripods can help get clearer, crisper pictures, and you don't need anything fancy. If you are on a very tight budget, you can try simply resting your arm or camera against a solid surface to prevent camera shake. This is especially important when dealing with longer shutter speeds. If your camera has a long exposure or fireworks mode, you'll want to make sure it's still while using them. I actually recommend getting a sandbag or cheap camera pillow. The are small, portable, inexpensive, and allow you stability and flexibility while framing shots. I use one sometimes with my 7D.
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(04-25-2012, 01:17 AM)
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I have a Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm f/2.8-4.0 macro in a Nikon mount. Works well, though it is very heavy, and the barrel zoom creeps very easily. Here are some things I've shot with it, on a D50 and D90. |
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(04-25-2012, 01:24 AM)
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(04-25-2012, 03:56 AM)
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I happened upon an OM-D at a camera store in St. Louis and jumped at the chance. Anyone want a cheap 2-month old GF3 body? $200? Some product shots of the OM-D and then test shots:
Olympus OM-D & Panasonic Leica 25mm f/1.4 ![]() It's much smaller than it looks when alone. ![]() Great Olympus color in JPEGs ![]() view North ![]() view East ![]() Obligatory Cat Shot ![]() Love the camera so far although I'm having a trouble transferring the videos to my computer. My SD card might be too slow for the video resolution. |
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(04-25-2012, 04:10 AM)
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I've tried that OM-D a few weeks ago along with the Noktor 50mm f0.95 lens. I don't find the OM-D comfortable at all. Buttons are so cramped in the palm area. It is pretty small indeed, but the grip really turned me off. <3 the face detect though. Even on manual focus it works. lol |
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(04-25-2012, 04:23 AM)
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One crazy mofo
Saved by a Harley dude (04-25-2012, 04:50 AM)
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I'm confused, isn't that the sears tower in Chicago? What store in St Louis had an OM-D? I want to go fondle one.
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(04-25-2012, 07:39 AM)
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Can you upload some high ISO stuff? I'd like to see how usable it'd be from a fellow GAFer. |
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(04-25-2012, 08:00 AM)
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I'll take some shots tomorrow with the OM-D and with the GF3 so you can compare. Unfortunately, Lightroom still doesn't process OM-D raw so they'll be JPEG comparisons. On first blush I think 3200 ISO is perfectly useable and 12,800 shots will be useable after LR noise reduction. The 25600 setting is useless and strictly a setting to put on the box. Also, the 5-Axis IS is godly for video; it's like having a steadycam with every lens. |
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(04-25-2012, 08:09 AM)
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Hey photo-GAF!
First post here! ... I have a Canon 40D, and just a crappy kit lens and a ~$100 nifty-fifty. I was very lucky to go to a journalism school that allowed me to rent out just about any lens I needed, and so for the last few years I've enjoyed playing around with a fair bit of L-glass. I'm *far, far, FAR* from a great photographer. I know the rules, how to handle a camera, and can get decent shots. But I would barely consider myself an amateur hobbyist, and so now that I'm graduated, I'm having a very hard time saving up for expensive lenses. Not just the fact that they're pricey, but I also can't really justify buying them much at all. Anyway, to compound that, my new job is gonna have me travel quite a bit - possibly several different locations a month. And so the 40D and a few lenses seems like way too much to bring around with me (size, weight, cumbersomeness); but I definitely want to have a camera with me, and I want more than a P&S or my iPhone. And so, I find myself looking into a Micro Four-Thirds or similar camera, and just one or two small lenses. But since getting my 40D so long ago, I haven't followed anything at all, and am curious if there are any quick and dirty recommendations? If I could get a camera, a fast low mm prime, and a ~35-~85mm zoom, all in a small package, I'd be very happy. And I'd like to keep the price as low as possible. ~$500 would be awesome; but I'd be willing to work up to ~1K. I know that's pretty tight, so if I'm way off base, let me know. But I don't mind going lightly-used if that helps. I'm not gonna be buying for a couple months; so if there's something worth waiting for, that's fine, too. Basically, I'm just looking for a jumping off point. I don't need to much of anyone's time; but I would appreciate any input. Thanks!
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(04-25-2012, 09:16 AM)
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Unless you want to go used it's going to be somewhat hard to find all of that at around $500. Especially if you want a fast prime too. Body and kit lens combos usually go around $600-700
Maybe like a used Olympus Pen EP3? You can add the samsung summilux 25mm/1.4 which goes for around $500. |
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WHO DEY!?
(04-25-2012, 12:03 PM)
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(04-25-2012, 01:47 PM)
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I should always shoot stuff in RAW I take it? I'm guessing Photoshop 7 can't open them (it's what I've been using for the last 10 years), are there any decent (preferably free) programs that can open RAW? |
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Saved by a Harley dude (04-25-2012, 06:19 PM)
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![]() 7D video rig back in action! w00t! |
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and have a good day (04-25-2012, 09:20 PM)
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The downside is they can quickly eat up space. I don't know about PS7, but I know in the past Adobe software has required propriety RAW formats to be converted into DNGs. You might look for a RAW to DNG converter online. Hopefully you'll be able to get your files working in the software you already have. @Flo_Evans: that's a beautiful sight. |
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(04-25-2012, 10:52 PM)
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Some OM-D high ISO samples. I shot this on a tripod with the Image Stabilization and the noise reduction set to off. The scene was a challenge for the camera to meter because of the floor to ceiling windows sending in light on the left and shadows around the bookcase. 25600 is useless. However, I believe ISO 3200 is usable in most situations and 6400 and 12800 will do well with black & white conversions. I rarely shot my E-P3 above 800 and will happily be shooting at 3200 with the OM-D.
200 ISO http://g1.img-dpreview.com/4D0E4D1C9...96B87CB1D3.jpg 1600 ISO http://g4.img-dpreview.com/710D06147...54CF8BFECD.jpg 3200 ISO http://g3.img-dpreview.com/EC4ED3D0F...A198A64CF7.jpg 6400 ISO http://g2.img-dpreview.com/59E186B31...DD61CFCCD8.jpg 12800 ISO http://g3.img-dpreview.com/370F05B85...31841A257D.jpg 25600 ISO http://g3.img-dpreview.com/9CF1943B9...476AA34957.jpg |
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(04-27-2012, 04:20 AM)
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First Sony NEX-F3 photo. Same sensor as my C3 but new processor. Wonder what the 5N replacement will bring?
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(04-27-2012, 01:16 PM)
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I'm kicking myself for skipping out when Amazon had the OM-D with 14-42 kit in stock earlier this week. I had the body-only version on pre-order since Feb. 8th and who knows when they'll get it in stock...(I'm sticking to buying it on Amazon because I have $250 in gift cards to use towards it) I jumped on the chance when J&R had the Panny 25mm in stock yesterday, I'm hoping I got in...I'll be cancelling my Panny EPP order if so (in which I just got another e-mail from them saying it's still backordered...whoopee =P) |
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(04-27-2012, 01:45 PM)
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More importantly, im finding a new joy in photography that I had lost, Its so easy to take this out anywhere and with a filter I dont even bother to carry the lens cap which means im always ready to take a shot, im loving this thing, one of my favorite gadgets/cameras ever. |
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Saved by a Harley dude (04-27-2012, 03:08 PM)
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whoa...
http://nikonrumors.com/2012/04/26/mo...0-rumors.aspx/
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