French Hardware-Sales [Jan-Mar07]

[cw_sasuke]

From a French magazine called "les Echos"

Nintendo DS : 260.000 Nintendo Wii : 144.000 Playstation 2 : 92.000 PSP : 90.000 Playstation 3 : 81.000 Xbox 360 : 43.000 http://xbox-mag.net/ventes-de-consol...ne__13097.html

Wii is really strong in France,just like the ds... 360. not so much...

[Ynos Yrros]

Wow at PS3, in 1 week selling over half of what Wii sold in 3 months.

[Doom_Bringer]

world wide domination!

[chibcicylist]

The PS3 is outselling the Wii, it's only been out for 8 days.

aww, too late

[Chumly]

Wow the Wii destroyed the 360

[Speevy]

Oui wii

[Shiggy]

Wow, that's total Nintendomination, although there are severe Wii shortages and its launch was in December.

[Fischbrot]

The PS3 is outselling the Wii, it's only been out for 8 days. aww, too late

Wii numbers from dezember ?

[ylvis_]

Wow at PS3, in 1 week selling over half of what Wii sold in 3 months.

Yeah, but PS3 has sold very poorly in Europe the following weeks after its launch, like in Japan and the US.

[cw_sasuke]

The PS3 is outselling the Wii, it's only been out for 8 days. aww, too late

Yes, but the ps3 got those strong Lanchsales...if that strong sales continues in the next months the ps3 is really big there...besides this Wii had shortages in france since it launched in december..

[Avrum]

So is New Zealand the only place where Wii isn't kicking ass?

[Speevy]

Wow at PS3, in 1 week selling over half of what Wii sold in 3 months.

The PS3 is on fire!

[Haunted]

So is New Zealand the only place where Wii isn't kicking ass?

NZ and Ireland!

The PS3 is on fire!

unstoppable everywhere.

[Ynos Yrros]

Yeah, but PS3 has sold very poorly in Europe the following weeks after its launch, like in Japan and the US.

Oh, of course it did, and there was only one guy buying PS3 at French launch.

[mabuza]

wow, umm yeah wow. totally awesome

[Ynos Yrros]

The PS3 is on fire!

Save the kids!

[Shiggy]

Oh, of course it did, and there was only one guy buying PS3 at French launch.

Facts failed.

[Parl]

Oh, of course it did, and there was only one guy buying PS3 at French launch.

81,000 for the week, compared to Europe's total of 600,000 is actually rather small. Bearing in mind that it dropped 82% the week after in UK (in UK, I think) and then down much further the week after.

Wii's shipments to France aren't that impressive at all.

[ylvis_]

Oh, of course it did, and there was only one guy buying PS3 at French launch.

Ok?

[Xzbeat]

Wow at PS3, in 1 week selling over half of what Wii sold in 3 months.

The Wii sold 6k less in its first week-end.

[Mithos Yggdrasill]

Nth-WOW.
.......
You know, I don't know what to say more ! Nintendo is ready to buy the world !

[Avrum]

NZ and Ireland!

Nintendoomed? ;_;



:P

[pickwick]

some informations :
PS3 has never been out of stock in France.
Despite bigger stock, PS3 was almost sold as much as Wii in the first 2 days (78k vs 75k).
Wii is still hard to find in april whereas PS3 can be found easily.


by the way, those numbers are for the first 3 months of 2007. I don't know french wii numbers for December : All I know (official Nintendo numbers) is that Wii sold 350k (first 2 days) and 700k (end of december) in Europa.
So we can say that at the end of the year Wii sold finally about twice than it was sold during two first days.
So I deduce from it that it was the same for France.
So maybe Wii sold approximately 300K to march (75+75+144) (despite short supplies)

[Ynos Yrros]

81,000 for the week, compared to Europe's total of 600,000 is actually rather small. Bearing in mind that it dropped 82% the week after in UK (in UK, I think) and then down much further the week after. Wii's shipments to France aren't that impressive at all.

It's the whole march. PS3 sales in UK dropped from first weekend of 165k to next weeks 30k. In France first 4 days was like 50-60k, with next 3 days 20-30k. Not as big of a drop, and still amazing sales, no matter what.

Why do you guys feel threatened every time something has better sales than Wii in some country? It's not like Wii is the biggest phenomenon ever (though it is extremely successful).

[Chumly]

Oh, of course it did, and there was only one guy buying PS3 at French launch.

Considering 600k consoles were sold in Europe in the first week - LINK

Of which 81k was from France which makes it 13.5% of Europe

An additional 200k consoles were sold in Europe the following 3 weeks - LINK

Of which about 27k should have been from France

Which gives it a weekly average of 9k

Which is lower than the 3 month Wii weekly average of 11k and its supply constrained.

So I think its safe to say that Yes the demand has significantly dropped after the launch.

[InterMoniker]

: 81,000 for the week, compared to Europe's total of 600,000 is actually rather small. Bearing in mind that it dropped 82% the week after in UK (in UK, I think) and then down much further the week after. Wii's shipments to France aren't that impressive at all.

Whatever, if they overshipped the Wii's would be collecting dust like PS3's right? j/k

This is just hilarious because of the Sony Bombed in France FUD And the 360 love boat was supposed to counter PS3's launch HAhahahahahahahaa

We all know that the French hates the U.S. so why would they be eager to "Jump In?"

[DiatribeEQ]

Well, to take things with a grain of salt, those PS3 sales do include launch sales as well. Can we get some figures for what the Wii launch sales were for them in their 1st 3 months as well?

D.

[Xzbeat]

Whatever, if they overshipped the Wii's would be collecting dust like PS3's right? j/k This is just hilarious because of the Sony Bombed in France FUD And the 360 love boat was supposed to counter PS3's launch HAhahahahahahahaa We all know that the French hates the U.S. so why would they be eager to "Jump In?"

Please... Not this shit again.

[Ynos Yrros]

Considering 600k consoles were sold in Europe in the first week - LINK Of which 81k was from France which makes it 13.5% of Europe An additional 200k consoles were sold in Europe the following 3 weeks - LINK Of which about 27k should have been from France Which gives it a weekly average of 9k Which is lower than the 3 month Wii weekly average of 11k and its supply constrained. So I think its safe to say that Yes the demand has significantly dropped after the launch.

It's actually 2 weeks for France, but nice try (not day to day weeks, but calendar weeks). I have no idea how you came with a conclusion that Wii is selling faster anyway, you should work at SONY's PR.

[Parl]

Why do you guys feel threatened every time something has better sales than Wii in some country? It's not like Wii is the biggest phenomenon ever (though it is extremely successful).

A more relevant question could be to ask why you interpret such entries of discussion as reactions of being threatened.

Giving incomplete information could give off the impression that PS3 is currently selling well in Europe. There's little evidence of success after the launch period thus far, as to be expected by many. It had a great launch; the very first to be tested with HUGE launch supply, and had an effective result because of it. The following week's drop-offs are also relevant pieces of information. Balance and all that...

[chibcicylist]

It's not like Wii is the biggest phenomenon ever (though it is extremely successful).

actually so far, it is.

[Ynos Yrros]

actually so far, it is.

Well not in Europe apparently. But hey, I'm out of this thread, N Force is too strong for me in sales related topics.

[Haunted]

actually so far, it is.

No. Crazy successful =! biggest phenomenon ever.

We all know that the French hates the U.S. so why would they be eager to "Jump In?"

WTF?

[Shiggy]

Well not in Europe apparently. But hey, I'm out of this thread, N Force is too strong for me in sales related topics.

What were PS2 sales in Europe (after 5 months)?

[chibcicylist]

No. Crazy successful =! biggest phenomenon ever. WTF?

isn't it the fastest selling console ever since launch?

[Tieno]

Whatever, if they overshipped the Wii's would be collecting dust like PS3's right? j/k This is just hilarious because of the Sony Bombed in France FUD And the 360 love boat was supposed to counter PS3's launch HAhahahahahahahaa We all know that the French hates the U.S. so why would they be eager to "Jump In?"

[Xisiqomelir]

We all know that the French hates the U.S. so why would they be eager to "Jump In?"

Is this going to the excuse any time there's bad 360 sales somewhere in the world?

[chibcicylist]

damn, i thought tori spelling couldn't get any uglier.


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[Haunted]

isn't it the fastest selling console ever since launch?

Yes, it is. (In every region it was released, no less.) But it's not the biggest phenomenon ever.

[AdmiralViscen]

Wow at PS3, in 1 week selling over half of what Wii sold in 3 months.

Yea, it's called a launch. Imagine that.

Wii's launch is not represented in the numbers.

Not to mention Wii has shipped less to Europe than anywhere else, and is in shortage.

These are good numbers for everyone (except MS), no reason to come in here with blinders on.

Considering 600k consoles were sold in Europe in the first week - LINK Of which 81k was from France which makes it 13.5% of Europe An additional 200k consoles were sold in Europe the following 3 weeks - LINK Of which about 27k should have been from France Which gives it a weekly average of 9k Which is lower than the 3 month Wii weekly average of 11k and its supply constrained. So I think its safe to say that Yes the demand has significantly dropped after the launch.

Whoa, ouch.

I wouldn't call that a steep demand dropoff (just normalization after launch week), but it blows apart his "omg outselling Wii" talking point.

edit: Whoa, 360 only has a weekly average of 3500 in France. Assuming 3 months is 12 weeks.

[Aeris130]

Batman speaks the truth.

[Leondexter]

So, wait...who is doomed? Somebody has to be doomed, right? Is it Microsoft? They're hardly ever doomed.

[chibcicylist]

Yes, it is. (In every region it was released, no less.) But it's not the biggest phenomenon ever.

it's bigger than both the 360 and the ps3, i can tell you that much. but you already know that.

[Chumly]

It's actually 2 weeks for France, but nice try (not day to day weeks, but calendar weeks). I have no idea how you came with a conclusion that Wii is selling faster anyway, you should work at SONY's PR.

Honestly I dont know why its so hard for you to accept that the demand has fallen off. All of our sources point to this.

Ok so heres a summary of how its done in Europe (all weeks are calender weeks)

600k the first weekend like we all know - LINK - 165k of which was in the UK

A total of 800k after 4 calender weeks - LINK

We know from the above info that the PS3 sold 81k in TWO calender weeks in France like you said which just makes the last two weeks even worse than it already was for the PS3.

We know from the UK in the second week PS3 sales dropped 82% - LINK

We know from the third week of UK sales the Wii outsold the PS3 - LINK

The UK sales look like this

165k - First week
29700 - Second week (82% drop)
17k - Third week
??? - Fourth week

If the UK ratios represented Europe the sales would look like this

Europe

600k - First week
108k - Second week (Based off the UK ratio)
61818 - Third week (Based off the UK ratio)
30182 - Fourth week (800k-108k-61818)

Going based off this the PS3 only sold 8.3k in the UK in the fourth week

Looking back on French sales we know

81k in two weeks

which means it represents around 11.5% of Europe (based off 81k/708k)

which would then mean it only sold about 11k in the next 2 weeks (92k*.115)

which would give it a weekly average of 5.5k in the last two weeks

We KNOW that over three months the Wii averaged 11k weekly (144k/13)

So again how hard is it for you to accept that fact that YES the PS3 sales have slowed down and from what we know all our sources point to the Wii already outselling it on a week to week basis again (additionally the Wii is supply constrained).

Also I know everyones going to try and rip into my assumption that the ratios stayed the same. YES i realize they could have changed. I personally think the 4th week is a tad low and the other weeks actually didnt sell as well. Keep in mind if you want to claim that the PS3 sold more than I said in France and UK that means it sold WORSE in the rest of Europe due to the fact that there is a max that the PS3 could have sold from Sony's numbers.

[mabuza]

So, wait...who is doomed? Somebody has to be doomed, right? Is it Microsoft? They're hardly ever doomed.

my iq is doomed reading this thread

[AdmiralViscen]

Trying to draw trends from 3-4 weeks of any product release is silly.

[Jacobi]

Even the GC sold well in France...

[Xisiqomelir]

So, wait...who is doomed? Somebody has to be doomed, right? Is it Microsoft? They're hardly ever doomed.

Well, along with the tepid German sales, it looks like they're not doing so hot in Europe.

[Chumly]

Trying to draw trends from 3-4 weeks of any product release is silly.

I realize but Im just trying to point out that YES the PS3 sales have dropped significantly unlike what some people like to think.

EDIT: Also even if the PS3 averaged 5.5k weeks in France it would STILL be doing better than the 360 which is averaging 3.5k a week. So it really doesnt seem that farfetched that it could be dong those kind of numbers.

[schuelma]

Not going to get involved in the PS3/Wii talk, but Microsoft's numbers are atrocious.

14K a month in France? Extrapolating that a bit, is the 360 really only doing about 100K a month in Europe? That's horrid. It's really looking like the 360 is only going to be strong in one territory. Wii's going to catch it worldwide by August.