[Nuclear Muffin]

THEY BROKE THE GAME!!! They put the original slowdown from the N64 back into the game!!!

To everyone at NOA who is reading this right now, this is unacceptable! CHANGE IT BACK!!!

[gandm]

What's the update supposed to fix?
Edit: uhm... the board's messing with the posts quite a bit?!

[Rogultgot]

Slowdown on the VC?

Never...

[Seraph830]

What kind of slowdown are we talking about?

[MasterMFauli]

My Lylat Wars had no slowdowns in the original?

[Seraph830]

The framerate is no longer locked at 30FPS like it was before, now it dips below in exactly the same places as in the original!

like where?

[Nuclear Muffin]

The framerate is no longer locked at 30FPS like it was before, now it dips below in exactly the same places as in the original!

[Avalon]

The framerate is no longer locked at 30FPS like it was before, now it dips below in exactly the same places as in the original!

Wow at Nintendo. They will do just about anything to not enhance the experience of playing VC won't they?

[claviertekky]

The framerate is no longer locked at 30FPS like it was before, now it dips below in exactly the same places as in the original!

Isn't that supposed to be old school?

[PepsimanVsJoe]

What the **** Nintendo?

[davepoobond]

they just want to emulate the actual experience of playing the game as you would have back in the day, what's so wrong about that?

[Galactic Fork]

Next will be the flicker in Super Mario World when you get 8 or more turtles or moving coins on the screen at the same time.

[allegate]

let's see...topic posted: 8:44. Downloaded starfox 64 to my wii I bought yesterday: 8:30.

and i think you're wrong. A prime slowdown was when you're trying to go through the tunnel-rings at the end of the first level to go the secret way and I just played it and there was no slowdown. It was actually easier than I remember, and I haven't played the game in almost 7 years.

[jjasper]

There is also slowdown on Aquas in the original

[Ranger X]

Can other people confirm this shit?

This is stupid. I don't see why they would do this.
And by the way it's true the slowdown was gone in the VC Starfox 64. (and i sure don't want it back)

[Tiktaalik]

If the point of VC is to emulate old games, then they fixed the game by adding back in the proper slowdown that was in the original.

[PepsimanVsJoe]

Of all things to be a purist about. Hell you guys must be doubly glad Nintendo hasn't added online play or any other additional features to these games. :lol

[davepoobond]

they just want to emulate the actual experience of playing the game as you would have back in the day, what's so wrong about that?

If the point of VC is to emulate old games, then they fixed the game by adding back in the proper slowdown that was in the original.

great minds think alike :)

[fernoca]

Hehehe..so the forums were affected with this update too?? :lol

[levious]

Can other people confirm this shit? This is stupid. I don't see why they would do this. And by the way it's true the slowdown was gone in the VC Starfox 64. (and i sure don't want it back)

maybe the slowdown fix was causing rare game freezing/crashing. Maybe they'll be another update in the future.

Wish they would have explanations along with the updates though.

[Visualante]

They sacrificed true next gen sound with the archaic Dolby Pro-logic II for true GameCube backwards compatibility.

What does this achieve? They're actually pooling resources on stuff like this- surely there must be some kind of glitch that needed to be ironed out too? They (NoE) only patch stuff if people e.mail with concerns as far as I know

[DeaconKnowledge]

How would one even go about downloading this "update"?

[Chumly]

Can anyone actually confirm this. I see everyone jumping on the bandwagon that this is true but other people say its false.

[Kintaro]

Hey, you wanted exact ports, you're getting them. Quit yer bitchin! You're not paying that $5-10 for an enhanced experience you know!

[Nemesis_]

Luckily these updates are not compulsory......right? =/

[Tiefooz]

Wait, you don't really think that Nintendo would purposefully gimp their game to run slower, do you?

It's just as likely that they fixed some other bug or instability in the emulation that caused the slowdown or something. Who knows.

[Avalon]

great minds think alike :)

What? You can still apply filters that clean up the graphics, get rid of slowdowns and still keep the original feel of the game.

[Jade Knight 08]

Nintendo should've keep it both one faster and the other the exact same way the day it came out.

[jetjevons]

Nintendo should've keep it both one faster and the other the exact same way the day it came out.

I tried really hard to understand this sentence but failed.

[Nuclear Muffin]

Wait, you don't really think that Nintendo would purposefully gimp their game to run slower, do you? It's just as likely that they fixed some other bug or instability in the emulation that caused the slowdown or something. Who knows.

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAVE DONE!!! There were no bugs or instabilities before, it was perfect, THEY HAVE GONE AND GIMPED THE GAME FOR NO GOOD REASON WHATSOEVER!!!

EMAIL THEM AND COMPLAIN, DON'T LET NOA GET AWAY WITH THIS!!!

[EphemeralDream]

Can someone else confirm this aside from Nuclear Muffin?

LOUD NOISES

[Ranger X]

Hey, you wanted exact ports, you're getting them. Quit yer bitchin! You're not paying that $5-10 for an enhanced experience you know!

That must be why all N64 games so far not only did receive fixes for the slowdown but also received double the resolution and 24bit colors?

[Gattsu25]

are...people defending this?

[Segata Sanshiro]

are...people defending this?

I don't think anyone seriously is, except for the one or two that are saying the framerate lock might have been causing a glitch.

[Evlar]

I see one person screaming at the top of his lungs about framerate drops, and one person calmly stating that the patched game still has better framerate than the original. Gonna call it a tie for the time being.

[ElectricBlue187]

are...people defending this?

nintendo is infallible

[marc^o^]

Wow....these arguments are coming from people who probably stood in line with little kids to buy the new pokemon games....wow. Hey how did it feel to be the oldest person in line?:lol Come on people its an old game, if you live in the past then there will never be a future.

And you win this thread too :lol

[derrickgott007]

Wow....these arguments are coming from people who probably stood in line with little kids to buy the new pokemon games....wow. Hey how did it feel to be the oldest person in line?:lol

Come on people its an old game, if you live in the past then there will never be a future.

[HAL_Laboratory]

Hmm.... I don't think Nintendo would make an update just to break the game.

See if rumble works now!

[Ramenman]

So you have no respect for NOSTALGIA ? :'(

[Kintaro]

That must be why all N64 games so far not only did receive fixes for the slowdown but also received double the resolution and 24bit colors?

You're definitely not very good at detecting sarcasm. I still like you for your LBP avatar though. :)

[Chumly]

I dont know if Nuclear Muffin is right but right now he sounds like hes full of crap. Hes the ONLY PERSON on the entire net complaining about this. All other people who have downloaded it havent experienced this so called slowdown. Personally im going to wait for some real confirmation of this not somebody who spams EMAIL NINTENDO ABOUT THIS.

[Jade Knight 08]

I tried really hard to understand this sentence but failed.

Sorry, what i meant is Nintendo should've give the gamers a choice which version they want to download instead of fixing it exactly the way it was intended to.


Two choices to download:

1.) Starfox 64 VC.... the one everybody likes it before the update patch.


2.) Starfox 64 added with the slown down patch exactly how it played back on N64

[AtomicShroom]

I would actually love to have the original slowdown back in. The boss explosions don't seem as "epic" since they're so fast and no longer slow the game down to a crawl like they normally did.

[TheQueen'sOwn]

*sigh*
sarcasm people, sarcasm!

Far too many people in this thread are idots.

[davepoobond]

What? You can still apply filters that clean up the graphics, get rid of slowdowns and still keep the original feel of the game.

:lol i was just kidding sheesh

[Patrick Klepek]

Has anyone other than the OP actually confirmed this?

[Oblivion]

Wait, Nintendo guaranteed to lock games at 30 fps minimum? When did this happen? And does it work for OoT?

[Segata Sanshiro]

Has anyone other than the OP actually confirmed this?

Hmm. Do the voices in his head count?

[Chumly]

Has anyone other than the OP actually confirmed this?

Nope in fact everyone else is saying its false. I think ill wait until I hear more reports.