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Kintaro
Worships the porcelain goddess
(05-08-2007, 02:01 AM)
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I'm bored, might as well.

Raw Danger (PS2) - 4.5 (5.0 SO)
Atelier Iris 3: Grand Phantasm (PS2) - 6.5 (6.5 SO)
Super Paper Mario (Wii) - 9.5 (9.5 SO) GOTM
Heatseeker (Wii) - 7.5 (7 SO)
Mortal Kombat: Armageddon (Wii) 7.5 (7.25 SO)
Rayman: RR (360) - 7.25 (6.75 SO)
Monster Madness: Battle for Suburbia (360) - 7.5 (7.25 SO)
C&C3: Tiberium Wars (360) - 8.5 (7.75 SO)
Infernal (PC) - 4 (5.5 SO)
Touch the Dead (DS) - 7 (6.25 SO)
Brooktown High (PSP) - 6.75 (6.5 SO)
Etrian Odyssey (DS) - 6 (5.75 SO) <---- GAF am cry =(
Aedis Eclipse: Generation of Chaos (PSP) - 6 (5 SO)
Pokemon D&P (DS) - 8.25 (8.5 SO)
Zendoku (DS) - 6
Cube (PSP) - 5
Time Ace (DS) - 6.75
Death Jr. and the Science Fair of Doom (DS) - 7
Diner Dash (DS) - 7.25

There you go.

Rumors:

Halo 3 in Sept.
Riddick: Butcher Bay getting an updated port to the PS3/360
R6: Vegas on PS3 will include the Live map packs with the game.

And....not seeing any other rumors. There is an article called "The Big Questions" Includes "Has the PS3 already lost?" "Is PC gaming dead?" "Are Console Exclusives always bad for gamers?" "Can anyone make good Wii games other than Nintendo?" "Does raw power matter in the console war?" "Is Microsoft ripping you off?" "Did Wii online get a free pass?" "Is the PSP a failure?" "Will downloadable content replace retail?" Haven't read it yet though.
Sean
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(05-08-2007, 02:02 AM)
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they scored Paper Mario right this time... though that's a little high IMO.


can you post the rumors please?
flipping_heck
changed his name from Satan to John.
PR purposes and all that.
(05-08-2007, 02:03 AM)
Touch the Dead? what the hell is that?
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
(05-08-2007, 02:03 AM)
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You have the mag? So whast the new Square game

edit:

Monster Madness: Battle for Suburbia (360) - 7.5 (7.25 SO)

SWEET WHO WANTS TO GET THIS SPIRITUAL ZOMBIES ATE MY NIEGHBOR AND BE MY LIVE FRIEND AND PLAY IT WITH ME
Mrbob
how can the baaasheep
enjoy the shootbang?
(05-08-2007, 02:03 AM)
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Super Paper Mario is one of the most overrated games of the year so far.

1) The Story is horrible

2) The Wiimote functionality is a joke

3) The 2D/3D mechanic isn't implemented very well

4) The supporting cast outside of Mario is worthless

Anyway, just an observation. I really don't want to detour this thread into a flamefest over the game.
grandjedi6
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(05-08-2007, 02:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by Sean

rumors please?

GI rumors tend to be already announced/painfully obvious or never come true.
jvalioli
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(05-08-2007, 02:06 AM)
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Originally Posted by John Harker

You have the mag? So whast the new Square game

edit:

Monster Madness: Battle for Suburbia (360) - 7.5 (7.25 SO)

SWEET WHO WANTS TO GET THIS SPIRITUAL ZOMBIES ATE MY NIEGHBOR AND BE MY LIVE FRIEND AND PLAY IT WITH ME

There is already a thread on the SE game.
atomsk
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(05-08-2007, 02:08 AM)
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i wish Raw Danger had a release date =(
Wario64
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(05-08-2007, 02:08 AM)
Nevermind.
Kintaro
Worships the porcelain goddess
(05-08-2007, 02:09 AM)
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There's already a thread on The Last Remnant. =x
duckroll
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(05-08-2007, 02:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kintaro

Etrian Odyssey (DS) - 6 (5.75 SO) <---- GAF am cry =(

Zendoku (DS) - 6
Time Ace (DS) - 6.75
Touch the Dead (DS) - 7 (6.25 SO)
Death Jr. and the Science Fair of Doom (DS) - 7
Diner Dash (DS) - 7.25

Aedis Eclipse: Generation of Chaos (PSP) - 6 (5 SO)
Brooktown High (PSP) - 6.75 (6.5 SO)

Joke issue confirmed?
Odrion
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(05-08-2007, 02:09 AM)
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Odin Sphere - 5.5

UH OH.
Game-Biz
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(05-08-2007, 02:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mrbob

Super Paper Mario is one of the most overrated games of the year so far.

No, you're one of the most overrated games of the year so far.
jjasper
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(05-08-2007, 02:10 AM)
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So they were too low for TTYD and too high for SPM. I guess the average between the 2 still works out.
VALIS
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But it cost me 40 friends
(05-08-2007, 02:10 AM)
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Monster Madness: Battle for Suburbia (360) - 7.5 (7.25 SO)

Buh? OXM trashed it, if I remember. I had an eye on this, too, but then OXM, but now this... I'm so confused... so confused... ellipses...
vareon
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(05-08-2007, 02:11 AM)
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Etrian Odyssey :(
Kintaro
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(05-08-2007, 02:11 AM)
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Originally Posted by Odrion

UH OH.

Are you seeing things? No Odin Sphere review in this issue. Anyone lower than a 10 for OS will be a crime punishable by death anyways. Yes, I'm judging it before I even tough it. =)
Tiktaalik
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(05-08-2007, 02:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mrbob

Super Paper Mario is one of the most overrated games of the year so far.

Yeah the score here is too high.

Pokemon is clearly the GOTM. :)
Thermite
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(05-08-2007, 02:13 AM)
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a little late on the Halo 3 releasing in September rumor, but it's adding more fuel to the fire.

Pokemon's score is about right, it's not really over a 9 but not under an 8.5.
Odrion
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(05-08-2007, 02:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kintaro

Are you seeing things? No Odin Sphere review in this issue. Anyone lower than a 10 for OS will be a crime punishable by death anyways. Yes, I'm judging it before I even tough it. =)

Sssh.
Innotech
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(05-08-2007, 02:13 AM)
I think that score is justified for SPM. Its a great game. Im enjoying it quite a lot and I think the pointer function is well implemented. the wiimote not so much but its rarely used to even matter. Remember this started as a Gamecube game.
Ramirez
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(05-08-2007, 02:16 AM)
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Halo 3 in Sept.

Maybe they're just going with everyone else, but I sure hope not, please be true :D
DemonSwordsman
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(05-08-2007, 02:16 AM)

Originally Posted by Innotech

I think that score is justified for SPM. Its a great game. Im enjoying it quite a lot and I think the pointer function is well implemented. the wiimote not so much but its rarely used to even matter. Remember this started as a Gamecube game.

then it should have been on the gamecube.
Yoboman
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(05-08-2007, 02:17 AM)
That's like the third Riddick HD rumour. Must be some basis to that one. Hopefully it gets an NGS like update. It doesn't really need it though, it still holds up well against next gen games
Kintaro
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(05-08-2007, 02:19 AM)
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Because I love fellow RPG fans getting hot blooded, I'll write some notes from the EO review.

"Using the touch screen to draw and rotate your map is a fun and natural fit...but the game built around this function is clunky and unforgiving."

Didn't like fetch quests in same areas

Lack of story to keep player interest. "I had to give my party members names like "Fight" and "Heal" just so I could recognize who should do what in battle."

"I have nothing against games that hearken back to old-school sensibilities, but EO just feels like an outdated game that snuck onto a modern console."

From the SO: "My nostalgia fuled enthusiasm for EO was slowly whittled away by constantly repeating environments, Dragon Warrior inspired battle presentation, and complete lack of story." "...a boring level grind with little payoff."

EO DEFENSE FORCE - FINAL FUSION! APPROVED! PROGRAM DRIVE!

Sorry, has a GaoGaiGar marathon this weekend
Yoboman
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(05-08-2007, 02:19 AM)

Originally Posted by Mrbob

Super Paper Mario is one of the most overrated games of the year so far.

1) The Story is horrible

2) The Wiimote funcionality is a joke

3) The 2D/3D mechanic isn't implemented very well

4) The supporting cast outside of Mario is worthless

Anyway, just an observation. I really don't want to detour this thread into a flamefest over the game.

From under-rating Paper Mario 2 to overrating Super Paper Mario
Dali
(05-08-2007, 02:20 AM)
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Riddick: Butcher Bay getting an updated port to the PS3/360

I wonder if the source of this is the Riddick HD listing on the fake 360 release list that was circulating.


"Has the PS3 already lost?"

No

"Is PC gaming dead?"

No

"Are Console Exclusives always bad for gamers?"

No

"Can anyone make good Wii games other than Nintendo?"

Yes

"Does raw power matter in the console war?"

Hmmmm...somewhat

"Is Microsoft ripping you off?"

Probably

"Did Wii online get a free pass?"

apparently

"Is the PSP a failure?"

Depends on what Sony's goal was.

"Will downloadable content replace retail?"

No
Innotech
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(05-08-2007, 02:20 AM)

Originally Posted by DemonSwordsman

then it should have been on the gamecube.

no because the pointer functionality pretty much would make a Cube version cumbersome. You have to point the wiimote at the screen to uncover hidden things or reveal clues. On a Gamecube youd have to do that with analog and it would suck.
Game-Biz
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(05-08-2007, 02:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by DemonSwordsman

then it should have been on the gamecube.

Yeah, but then it wouldn't of been widescreen.
Socreges
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(05-08-2007, 02:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mrbob

Super Paper Mario is one of the most overrated games of the year so far.

1) The Story is horrible

2) The Wiimote functionality is a joke

3) The 2D/3D mechanic isn't implemented very well

4) The supporting cast outside of Mario is worthless

Anyway, just an observation. I really don't want to detour this thread into a flamefest over the game.

After all these years, you remain such a huge douche. :lol
duckroll
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(05-08-2007, 02:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kintaro

Because I love fellow RPG fans getting hot blooded, I'll write some notes from the EO review.

"Using the touch screen to draw and rotate your map is a fun and natural fit...but the game built around this function is clunky and unforgiving."

Didn't like fetch quests in same areas

Lack of story to keep player interest. "I had to give my party members names like "Fight" and "Heal" just so I could recognize who should do what in battle."

"I have nothing against games that hearken back to old-school sensibilities, but EO just feels like an outdated game that snuck onto a modern console."

From the SO: "My nostalgia fuled enthusiasm for EO was slowly whittled away by constantly repeating environments, Dragon Warrior inspired battle presentation, and complete lack of story." "...a boring level grind with little payoff."

EO DEFENSE FORCE - FINAL FUSION! APPROVED! PROGRAM DRIVE!

Sorry, has a GaoGaiGar marathon this weekend

I have...... no words. :(
Talka
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(05-08-2007, 02:29 AM)
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Doesn't Game Informer normally err on the side of score inflation? I think this month's collective scores are unusually low for them. The average must be around a 6.75.
Dragona Akehi
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(05-08-2007, 02:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by duckroll

I have...... no words. :(

I've got a couple: "moran" "idot" and best of all "missingtheentirefuckingpoint".
Avalon
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(05-08-2007, 02:37 AM)

Originally Posted by duckroll

I have...... no words. :(

Come on, we all saw this coming. Mainstream magazine is only interested in casual friendly stuff.
Evlar
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(05-08-2007, 02:38 AM)
He was really looking forward to an old-style dungeon grind fest but this game feels like Dragon Quest dammit!
AgentOtaku
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(05-08-2007, 02:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kintaro

I'm bored, might as well.

Raw Danger (PS2) - 4.5 (5.0 SO)
Atelier Iris 3: Grand Phantasm (PS2) - 6.5 (6.5 SO)
Super Paper Mario (Wii) - 9.5 (9.5 SO) GOTM
Heatseeker (Wii) - 7.5 (7 SO)
Mortal Kombat: Armageddon (Wii) 7.5 (7.25 SO)
Rayman: RR (360) - 7.25 (6.75 SO)
Monster Madness: Battle for Suburbia (360) - 7.5 (7.25 SO)
C&C3: Tiberium Wars (360) - 8.5 (7.75 SO)
Infernal (PC) - 4 (5.5 SO)
Touch the Dead (DS) - 7 (6.25 SO)
Brooktown High (PSP) - 6.75 (6.5 SO)
Etrian Odyssey (DS) - 6 (5.75 SO) <---- GAF am cry =(
Aedis Eclipse: Generation of Chaos (PSP) - 6 (5 SO)
Pokemon D&P (DS) - 8.25 (8.5 SO)
Zendoku (DS) - 6
Cube (PSP) - 5
Time Ace (DS) - 6.75
Death Jr. and the Science Fair of Doom (DS) - 7
Diner Dash (DS) - 7.25

There you go.

Rumors:

Halo 3 in Sept.
Riddick: Butcher Bay getting an updated port to the PS3/360R6: Vegas on PS3 will include the Live map packs with the game.

And....not seeing any other rumors. There is an article called "The Big Questions" Includes "Has the PS3 already lost?" "Is PC gaming dead?" "Are Console Exclusives always bad for gamers?" "Can anyone make good Wii games other than Nintendo?" "Does raw power matter in the console war?" "Is Microsoft ripping you off?" "Did Wii online get a free pass?" "Is the PSP a failure?" "Will downloadable content replace retail?" Haven't read it yet though.


...oh please oh please let it be at least the PC's Developer's Cut :D :D :D
duckroll
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(05-08-2007, 02:40 AM)
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"I had to give my party members names like "Fight" and "Heal" just so I could recognize who should do what in battle."

"I had to give my party members names like "Fight" and "Heal" just so I could recognize who should do what in battle."

"I had to give my party members names like "Fight" and "Heal" just so I could recognize who should do what in battle."

"I had to give my party members names like "Fight" and "Heal" just so I could recognize who should do what in battle."

"I had to give my party members names like "Fight" and "Heal" just so I could recognize who should do what in battle."



..............

:(

;_;

T_T

>_<

-_-

._.
ethelred
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(05-08-2007, 02:44 AM)
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"Using the touch screen to draw and rotate your map is a fun and natural fit...but the game built around this function is clunky and unforgiving."

Translation: "We tried to beat this game but, uh, we kinda got our asses kicked."

"I have nothing against games that hearken back to old-school sensibilities, but EO just feels like an outdated game that snuck onto a modern console."

Translation: "I have nothing against old-school games, but EO is an old-school game and I've got a real problem with that."

"My nostalgia fuled enthusiasm for EO was slowly whittled away by constantly repeating environments, Dragon Warrior inspired battle presentation, and complete lack of story."

I can't wait for their Dragon Quest IX review. "My enthusiasm for this game was ruined by the fact the Dragon Warrioresque battles."

"...a boring level grind with little payoff."

I really want to know if these guys played Nocturne or DDS.

Lack of story to keep player interest. "I had to give my party members names like "Fight" and "Heal" just so I could recognize who should do what in battle."

That is... just about the most idiotic thing I've ever seen in a review. Aside from the fact that the game does have a story (though I guess it doesn't count if it's not told through countless hours of FMV)... Have they ever played Wizardry? D&D? Any game where you create and customize your own characters?
grandjedi6
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(05-08-2007, 02:47 AM)
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Remember everyone Game Informer reviews games based on how the general public will like it
Avalon
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(05-08-2007, 02:47 AM)

Originally Posted by ethelred

Have they ever played Wizardry? D&D? Any game where you create and customize your own characters?

Basically, they tried to apply modern RPG standards to who was obviously going for something completely different. Something thats fueled by the players motivations and not whatever bogus scenario other games try to force.
DarknessTear
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(05-08-2007, 02:49 AM)
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Aha so EO is most defintely a non-buy for me.
ethelred
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(05-08-2007, 02:49 AM)
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"I had to give my party members names like "Fight" and "Heal" just so I could recognize who should do what in battle."
vareon
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(05-08-2007, 02:50 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kintaro

Because I love fellow RPG fans getting hot blooded, I'll write some notes from the EO review.

"Using the touch screen to draw and rotate your map is a fun and natural fit...but the game built around this function is clunky and unforgiving."

Didn't like fetch quests in same areas

Lack of story to keep player interest. "I had to give my party members names like "Fight" and "Heal" just so I could recognize who should do what in battle."

"I have nothing against games that hearken back to old-school sensibilities, but EO just feels like an outdated game that snuck onto a modern console."

From the SO: "My nostalgia fuled enthusiasm for EO was slowly whittled away by constantly repeating environments, Dragon Warrior inspired battle presentation, and complete lack of story." "...a boring level grind with little payoff."

EO DEFENSE FORCE - FINAL FUSION! APPROVED! PROGRAM DRIVE!

Sorry, has a GaoGaiGar marathon this weekend

What. What. What.
duckroll
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(05-08-2007, 02:51 AM)
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"I had to give my party members names like "Fight" and "Heal" just so I could recognize who should do what in battle."

I'm still baffled and shocked that something like this can be seen in a professional print mag review.

One more time......

"I had to give my party members names like "Fight" and "Heal" just so I could recognize who should do what in battle."

DarknessTear
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(05-08-2007, 02:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by duckroll

I'm still baffled and shocked that something like this can be seen in a professional print mag review.

One more time......

I dunno.. it at least works as a good joke!
jj984jj
He's a pretty swell guy in my books anyway.
(05-08-2007, 02:53 AM)
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:lol @ Wii games and Diner Dash scores. WTF @ Etrian Odyssey score. More proof that GI sucks ass.
Avalon
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(05-08-2007, 02:58 AM)

Originally Posted by DarknessTear

Aha so EO is most defintely a non-buy for me.

Yeah right, like you were ever interested in the first place. :P

No one who like dungeon crawlers and is interested in Etrian Odyssey should be worried about it's quality. The game doesn't burden itself with trying to be accessible or appeal to the mainstream. It's exactly the kind of game it wants to be, I would say that's pretty damn rare these days.
Kintaro
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(05-08-2007, 02:59 AM)
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You know what's funny, I actually want to give this game a try after reading this review. :lol
Durante
Come on down to Durante's drivethru PC port fixes. 15 minutes or less. Yelp: ★★★★★

Fixed Souls, Deadly Premonition, Lightning Returns, Umihara Kawase, Symphonia, Little King's Story, PhD, likes mimosas.
(05-08-2007, 03:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by ethelred

I really want to know if these guys played Nocturne or DDS.

I agree with your sentiment, but that's not a good comparison. From what I gather about EO, it really has very little payoff for the dungeon crawling story- or otherwise. Surviving the dungeon is a purpose in itself - and that's fine in a traditional dungeon crawler for most off us, but apparently not for the reviewer.
But I wouldn't compare it to Nocturne or DDS. Those games had big dungeons to explore, but they also had great storys to uncover and maybe even influence, and some interesting characters to interact with. (If I'm wrong and EO actually has those on the same level, then your point is justified)

Atelier Iris 3: Grand Phantasm (PS2) - 6.5 (6.5 SO)

That's more than I expected. For niche animu RPGs, I usually have to add 3 or so to the GI score, that would make this game really great :lol
Innotech
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(05-08-2007, 03:01 AM)
EO is made by Atlus right? they usually make pretty good software. Like, Odin Sphere for example. I have no doubts EO is a good game.

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