Official Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix thread

[Crayon Shinchan]

Why does old background look better than new background?

:(

[Chemo]

the people who like the way this is turning out are only concerned with resolutions and technical aspects and have no good taste in 2d gaming art.

Bingo.

[Crayon Shinchan]

Bingo.

screw that noise. The sprites look fine.

That background... not so much :(

[Raging Spaniard]

From the Arcade Version (Super Street Fighter 2: The New Challengers World version, if you want me to be specific), which, afaik, the Street Fighter HD is a remake of. If somebody knows the specific version of which Street Fighter 2 HD is based off (there's like.. 3 or 4 versions of super street fighter 2?) and want me to take a proper screenshot of that version, i will.. but i don't think the arcade versions of the games had different backgrounds... The console ports, however, do. Again, that picture you just posted now is also from Street Fighter 2 (You know, THE FIRST ONE, without the NEW characters?), and also from a home version.

Well I just played trough single player in SF2 for the SNES, which is a lesser port of the Arcade game. Got to Balrogs stage and heres what I got



Looks pretty awesome to me from an old ass SNes game, the one you posted seems like the fucking Atari version or something.

[drizzle]

Really friggin tacky looking - and that's on top of an already tacky vegas setting... the people who like the way this is turning out are only concerned with resolutions and technical aspects and have no good taste in 2d gaming art. just sad.

What is sad is that apparently people are misunderstanding the point of this game.

People apparently want a NEW street fighter with 2d high resolution graphics... and that's ok, i want that too.

But this is not it. This is Super Street Fighter 2 (which has worse art than the original Street Fighter 2, in my opinion) getting a HD treatment.

With that in mind, the producers of this game made a decision: We will keep everything the same: proportions, hit boxes and framerate. Only thing we will change are the graphics.

And for that, it's a really good attempt. Street Fighter Zero (or alpha) series would be a better choice, in my opinion. Better graphics, better proportions, better game (than super street fighter 2). The graphics just don't seem so wacky. But then again, who am i to say anything.

[Crayon Shinchan]

Well I just played trough single player in SF2 for the SNES, which is a lesser port of the Arcade game. Got to Balrogs stage and heres what I got Looks pretty awesome to me from an old ass SNes game, the one you posted seems like the fucking Atari version or something.

No idea what you're trying to prove there. He's basically already told you, it's based off SSF2T arcade, not SF2 SNES.

You're right, the SF2 SNES background looks better... but that's not what they had to work with.

That said, I don't know why they had to keep the same proportions... I imagine as a matter of making the the sprites which have the real restrictions in place, look like shit.

Anyway, since we're bitching and moaning about this stuff again...

let's get some HD versions of our own going again!

You got kudos from other gaffers for your morrigan... but truth be told, I didn't like the style much at all... that and you kinda cheated; Larger scale than even what SSF2THDR used... and not that much respect for the proportions of the old sprite (which... really is the whole point).

[drizzle]

Well I just played trough single player in SF2 for the SNES, which is a lesser port of the Arcade game. Got to Balrogs stage and heres what I got

Yes. Except this Street Fighter 2 HD remix is not based off the SNES version, it's based off the Arcade game.

Looks pretty awesome to me from an old ass SNes game, the one you posted seems like the fucking Atari version or something.

That is correct. Snes version has a better looking background than the Arcade version.

The sprites look like crap tho.

Super Street Fighter 2 has the WORST graphics of the Street Fighter 2 Arade Games (in my opinion). I believe this is motly because it was one of the first (if not THE FIRST) cps2 game capcom ever made.

However, Street Fighter 2 HD on xbox live is a remake based on THE ARCADE VERSION, and that's the version we must use to compare (since the drawings are made based off that version).

Edit: i also went through the other versions of Super Street Fighter 2 (there's 3 that i am aware of) and they all have the exact same background.

The regular Street Fighter 2 background is pretty much the same, with the difference that crowd (the 4 dudes behind the fight) are different from the ones in Super Street Fighter 2.

[Mr Jared]

Cause it looks like ass, and if you cant tell then you're better off not talking shit about any games graphics ever again because holee fuck you're blind and have no artistic eye whatsoever. Does look better than Cruis'n though, I'll give it that. EDIT: For the screen comparison, think about HOW AWESOME that background looked back in the day, easily the most awesome in the game! Now look at the new one, sure its SHARP, but that doesnt make it good.

You people don't even care about Super Turbo to begin with.

[ThatCrazyGuy]

It doesn't look bad at all. What's with you peeps? Go ST....

[GeoNeo]

Drizzle,

You need to take a screen shot of Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo to be 100% exact to the Arcade game this HD version is based off.

Raging Spaniard,

You are posting screen of the Old none super turbo game, which never even came out on SNES.

As for the the update they need to work on the character proportions in that background because they seem out of wack at places in this HD update. Other then that I think I'm digging this venture into bringing Super turbo to the HD era.

You people don't even care about Super Turbo to begin with.

:P

To be honest I just hope they nail the emulation I want an arcade perfect gameplay port.

[drizzle]

You need to take a screen shot of Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo to be 100% exact to the Arcade game this HD version is based off.

Sure thing.. But it's the exact same background.

I'll keep the characters on this time to prove it's from SSF2T:



edit: I just noticed.. The highest score belongs to POO...

[GeoNeo]

Sure thing.. But it's the exact same background. I'll keep the characters on this time to prove it's from SSF2T:

Yeah, I know they just reused the background. But, you know how some people are with this type of thing. :P

[Mr Jared]

To be honest I just hope they nail the emulation I want an arcade perfect gameplay port.

Ditto. ST is a game we've been playing competitive for more than a decade now and in the past few years has enjoyed more popularity than ever before (which to be honest, isn't much). I'm looking forward to seeing how people react to it, both new and old players. I'm hoping it's spot on so that come EVO next year, we'll still be playing it ... only really freaking pretty and with more competition.

[tnw]

Really friggin tacky looking - and that's on top of an already tacky vegas setting... the people who like the way this is turning out are only concerned with resolutions and technical aspects and have no good taste in 2d gaming art. just sad.

Yeah, it looks like some lame flash game.

Still can't help but get balrog stage music in my head dunh dunh dunh dunh DUNH du dunh dunh DOO DOO DOO DO *round one, FIGHT* etc.

[Raging Spaniard]

Raging Spaniard, You are posting screen of the Old none super turbo game, which never even came out on SNES.

Dude didn't you read my post? That came STRAIGHT OUT of my SNES emulator, and the rom is sf2, the regular one

and saying I dont care about super turbo is ridiculous, I played that game till my fingers bled.

[drizzle]

Dude didn't you read my post? That came STRAIGHT OUT of my SNES emulator, and the rom is sf2, the regular one and saying I dont care about super turbo is ridiculous, I played that game till my fingers bled.

HE said you posted a version of a "non" Super Turbo Version.

he also said that Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo never got released on the Super Nintendo.

Which is correct. The "Turbo" version of Super Street Fighter 2 only got released on 3DO (back then).. and the Amiga.

What DID got released on the SNES?

Street Fighter 2
Street Fighter 2 Champion Edition
Street Fighter 2 Turbo
Super Street Fighter 2

[KachoMakura]

I have a hard time believing the people complaining own HDTVs?

Anyway let me say that I know this is a horrible photoshop(hopefully someone with better skills can do this justice), but how can you not be excited by this?!

[GeoNeo]

Dude didn't you read my post? That came STRAIGHT OUT of my SNES emulator, and the rom is sf2, the regular one and saying I dont care about super turbo is ridiculous, I played that game till my fingers bled.

You are misunderstanding me. I know that is a screen from the old SF2 SNES rom. But, this game is based off of Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo Arcade game which never came out on SNES, so you posting a screen of it really makes no sense since the stage was changed in SSF2T compared to its' SF2 counterpart.

[Phoenix Fang]

There sure are a lot of whining little bitches on here. I can't beleive you stupid idiots are complaining about this. What I find even funnier is the ones who try and post there art as if it looks good when it doesn't and the other stupid gafers praising them on as if to jump on their bandwagon. I would list names but I bet most of them already know who the fuck they are. Morons.

[Shpeshal Ed]

I cant fucking believe people think this shit looks OK and then go and bitch about how one texture in Haze looks like ass, or how Shadow of the Colossus has bad art ... oh, the irony.

I didn't realise 2D Fighters download through Xbox Live or PSN needed 3D textures.

[drizzle]

Anyway let me say that I know this is a horrible photoshop(hopefully someone with better skills can do this justice), but how can you not be excited by this?! http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...akura/HDSF.jpg

Exactely what i wanted to do, but i'm too lazy.. :)

I think people aren't used to looking at Super Street Fighter 2 Backgrounds without the health bar on top and the action going on the front.. they are really awful..

Fei Long's background is the worst mess i've ever seen.

[Narag]

Fei Long's background is the worst mess i've ever seen.

Don't leave me hanging. Let's see! I can't for the life of me remember it.

[Sho Nuff]

HOLY SHIT THAT LOOKS FUCKING SWEET!!!

Some of you morons need to drink a tall cool glass of STFU!

[GeoNeo]

Ditto. ST is a game we've been playing competitive for more than a decade now and in the past few years has enjoyed more popularity than ever before (which to be honest, isn't much). I'm looking forward to seeing how people react to it, both new and old players. I'm hoping it's spot on so that come EVO next year, we'll still be playing it ... only really freaking pretty and with more competition.

I just hope that people that buy this know how cheap the A.I is SP game. I'd hate for someone to just play the SP game in the demo trial and pass on it, because the game really shines when you play against people and not the computer. As for Evo using it over the CCC2 port that would be wonderful. Just have to wait and see if it does not have some crazy emulation bugs.

[Grayman]

I think the super hard ai was mentioned on the blog at some point. Maybe it'll get toned done a little.

[KachoMakura]

HOLY SHIT THAT LOOKS FUCKING SWEET!!! Some of you morons need to drink a tall cool glass of STFU!

I know man, there's so much idiocy in this thread it's ridiculous. The game is looking incredible

[jj984jj]

The redone background is awesome.

[striKeVillain!]

When is the release window for this? That background looks great!

[Rottweiler]

I cant fucking believe people think this shit looks OK and then go and bitch about how one texture in Haze looks like ass, or how Shadow of the Colossus has bad art ... oh, the irony.

Dude, you should be the one talking about bad art considering your Morrigan looks like a transvestite. That Morrigan you made just looks horrible.

[R-User!]

What is sad is that apparently people are misunderstanding the point of this game. People apparently want a NEW street fighter with 2d high resolution graphics... and that's ok, i want that too. But this is not it. This is Super Street Fighter 2 (which has worse art than the original Street Fighter 2, in my opinion) getting a HD treatment. With that in mind, the producers of this game made a decision: We will keep everything the same: proportions, hit boxes and framerate. Only thing we will change are the graphics. And for that, it's a really good attempt. Street Fighter Zero (or alpha) series would be a better choice, in my opinion. Better graphics, better proportions, better game (than super street fighter 2). The graphics just don't seem so wacky. But then again, who am i to say anything.

Just so that I can be clear on something... ...When you say "Super Street Fighter 2", you do mean Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo, right? :/

Edit: the following posts up until mine clarify what I was wondering about...

GO ST HD REMIX!!!

[Crayon Shinchan]

Just so that I can be clear on something... ...When you say "Super Street Fighter 2", you do mean Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo, right? :/

Apparently there's SSF2 and SSF2T...

Not that there's that much different, some tweaks and a couple extra moves.

[Sapiens]

Apparently there's SSF2 and SSF2T... Not that there's that much different, some tweaks and a couple extra moves.

LOL

[Narag]

Not that there's that much different, some tweaks and a couple extra moves.

Just for reference from wiki so people don't ask

Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers was the first Street Fighter game that Capcom would release on its CPS-2 hardware. All prior Street Fighter games had been released on Capcom's CPS-1 hardware. The arcade version of this game also included a variant that allowed four arcade cabinets to be connected together for simultaneous tournament play. This version contained the most extensive changes introduced in the series: Four new characters were added (Fei Long, T. Hawk, Cammy, and Dee Jay). Boss characters received updated regular move sets. Boss characters also received new, individual game endings. Each character could be selected with one of eight different color palettes. Some of the original eight playable characters received updated art and audio. The speed introduced in Hyper Fighting was reduced. A combo counter (a first despite combos being in the game since the original), as well as point bonuses for first attack, combos and reversals. Super Street Fighter II Turbo Super Street Fighter II Turbo (Super Street Fighter II X: Grand Master Challenge in Japan) was a slightly updated version of Super Street Fighter II. This version introduced: The addition of the "SUPER" bar. This allowed character to build up and unleash a very powerful special attack (typically a special attack with more strength, and the character gained "shadows" of the previous frames of animation.) The speed was again raised from Super SF2, close to Hyper Fighting levels. Intentional Air juggling (a series of attacks that could hit an opponent while airborne) The ability to tech or "soften" non-multi hit throws (teching allows a character to land on one's feet instead of on their back, resulting in less damage). A new secret character (Akuma). Alternate versions of each character that played very similar (but not quite identical) to their Super Street Fighter II incarnation without the super bar or the ability to tech throws, they are also identifiable by the fact that they are the new default colors. The bonus stages (where players try to destroy all the objects in the stage before time runs out) that were present in the series since Street Fighter II are removed. Bonus stages would not re-appear in any Street Fighter related game until Street Fighter III.

Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_...ghter_II_Turbo

[shagg_187]

Well, looks quite different from THIS Street Fighter 2 one, which version did you get that from?

From Super Street Fighter II Turbo... NOT Street Fighter II

[Akira]

Let's compare this properly, shall we? looks.... right to me... That's Street Fighter 2 balrog's background, not SUPER street fighter 2 balrog's background.

That Escalade feels out of place. This is the 90's!

[R-User!]

Apparently there's SSF2 and SSF2T... Not that there's that much different, some tweaks and a couple extra moves.

Youuuuuuuuuu smart guy!!.....

...fuck it... take this!!!: SHORYUKEN

[KachoMakura]

Could someone do a better photoshop than me please?

[Linkzg]

I only thing the girl in the background looks really out of place, other than that its not bad.

[pCeSlAyEr]

I only thing the girl in the background looks really out of place, other than that its not bad.

she's the chick that walks around throwing confetti...

she needs thight high stockings is all...

[GeoNeo]

Here is my photoshop. I used different character art. :P

[Linkzg]

she's the chick that walks around throwing confetti... she needs thight high stockings is all...

not only that, but compared to the other characters she just seems different, it reminds me of a character from The Boondocks.

[KachoMakura]

Thank you!!! That looks great! Do you have the high-res version?

[quailtamer]

Anyone who doesn't like the cool new background image is a cranky ninny.

[GeoNeo]

Thank you!!! That looks great! Do you have the high-res version?

I closed down photoshop and forgot to save it as a Photoshop file. Sorry dude. :(

[KachoMakura]

Damn, that's ok. It would have made a nice desktop though.

[drizzle]

I am so bored today, so let's do this:

New Background for Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo HD Remix:


Original Background from CPS2 arcade machine (Street Fighter 2 Turbo):


Original Background from CPS2 arcade machine (Street Fighter 2 Turbo) with sprites for the annoying people:


Background from SNES version of Super Street Fighter 2


Background from Genesis version of Super Street Fighter 2


oh dear god my eyes

I am not going to put up regular Street Fighter 2 renditions of that background. They are pretty much the same.

Whoever says the new background is ugly and will feel out of place doesn't have a clue about old Street Fighter games. And that's a shame :(

Don't leave me hanging. Let's see! I can't for the life of me remember it.

That's about feilong's stage... Well.. it doesn't look that bad actually.. But it just annoyed the hell out of me. Specially at the end of the stage, where the damn birds would start flapping their wings and the damn dragons would start moving all over the place like they were on meth.

Here's the Genesis version of it. Didn't bother to take pictures of the arcade original (The arcade one looks a little less disturbing tho). This is the one i played and this is the one i hated.




Edit: I won't post any more screenshots.. i swear..

[Rentahamster]

Could someone do a better photoshop than me please?

Beaten, but here's mine (click for High Def 720p version):

[Sapiens]

ITS IN HIGH REZ - IF YOU DONT LIKE IT, YOU HATE STREET FIGHTER!! OMGRZZZZ


whatever, people.

There are two ways they could have redone the backgrounds and sprites in this HD remix; the good way and the bad way.

They have chosen the bad way. It looks like total ass. High rez ass.

[GeoNeo]

Damn, that's ok. It would have made a nice desktop though.

I'll resize the JPG in Photoshop and tweak the contrast and brightness a bit to make it more darker.

[KachoMakura]

Awesome Renta thank you! Geo I'll take yours too! Can't get enough HD SF goodness