New PGR4 Hands-on + Pics

[danwarb]

We've seen better and better already exists in GT:HD. There's little question that Bizarre will refine its shaders before release and there's no reason to doubt their ability either. As of today though, I think Nostromo is correct.

Not every racing game needs to look like GT:HD. PGR has its own style; and it's awesome.

[op_ivy]

ok, looks like bizarre is doing the bikes VERY well, at least visually. this looks awesome, cant ****ing wait.


still wonder how the bump heavy cluster**** of online racing will translate with bikes... i dont want people bouncing off of one another but it would also be quite hard to get through turn one on a bike without dying if they had it even semi-realistic

[IJoel]

The game looks great and I can't wait to play it. Man, when it rains it POURS! This fall's game lineup is just incredible.

[GreekWolf]

Well, his first post was the kind of troll that makes a statement without any reasoning behind it that isn't usually tolerated around these parts...unless you're a known personality or it was actually funny.

Drinky has more clout than devs confirmed.

I actually feel bad for the guy now. While he should have certainly chosen his words a bit more carefully, I had no idea it was going to send him packing. Hey Nostromo, don't worry bud I forgive you. I'm still picking up HS on day 1. Can't afford to miss out on the gaming goodness.

[DD-11]

30 FPS or 60 FPS?

30. Now shut up about that. Leave PGR 30 and pretty. If you want 60 play Forza. Most of us want sex at 30 fps.

Yeah, pretty classless comment coming from a dev. Bravo Luke. Bravo Mods. I hope the livery is at least comparable to Forza's, I want to make pretty things.

[bluemax]

Heh someone with actual technical expertise speaks out on something and they get banned.

Thousands of gaffers act like graphics programming experts and nothing happens.

Life is ironic sometimes.

[MightyHedgehog]

Not every racing game needs to look like GT:HD. PGR has its own style; and it's awesome.

Exactly. PGR's always been about stylized color usage...more like the ol' airbrushed pinup posters of Lambos and Ferraris than actual photos.

[PleoMax]

Real cars look plasticky, oh noes! Only difference I see is the car color, which mainly has to do with the environmental lighting.

Real life uses last generation cars shading.

Cmon son. You gotta keep up.

[MassiveAttack]

Heh someone with actual technical expertise speaks out on something and they get banned. Thousands of gaffers act like graphics programming experts and nothing happens. Life is ironic sometimes.

Well played, sir.

[GreekWolf]

Heh someone with actual technical expertise speaks out on something and they get banned. Thousands of gaffers act like graphics programming experts and nothing happens. Life is ironic sometimes.

Yeah, I wonder what your opinion would be if Stinkles showed up in the Killzone thread right after it's big unveiling and made a derogatory comment.

Then you'd see the irony.

[Mmmkay]

So yeah, back to the game, I think it looks fantastic. I wonder if they're using a different motion blur technique for the cars and bikes, the game seems to give them a nicer result than the environments.

[Quazar]

I bet mods are getting spammed right now. Free Nostromo! Is this the first banned developer?

[dankir]

E60 M5 BITCHES!! Damn I have so many racing games already!!!! Anyways day 1 purchase!!!

[mckmas8808]

I'm still stuck in shock that he's banned. I mean Che use to say negative stuff all the time about PS3 games, but I never thought he'd get banned.

Hell sometimes it was fun arguing with Che.

[jett]

The xbox-related bannings are getting ridiculous now.

[bluemax]

Yeah, I wonder what your opinion would be if Stinkles showed up in the Killzone thread right after it's big unveiling and made a derogatory comment. Then you'd see the irony.

Is he even a programmer? Isn't he something like the community manager or whatever?

Also I know you're trying to make me out to be a Sony fanboy but I'm console agnostic.

[vspectra06]

Heh someone with actual technical expertise speaks out on something and they get banned. Thousands of gaffers act like graphics programming experts and nothing happens. Life is ironic sometimes.

Umm, I see flaws in the graphics, but there's nothing "plastic" about the cars. It was a typical "troll" statement.

This looks plastic to me.



This does not.

[GreekWolf]

Is he even a programmer? Isn't he something like the community manager or whatever? Also I know you're trying to make me out to be a Sony fanboy but I'm console agnostic.

That wasn't my point, but never mind. The thread's been derailed enough.

Screens look great and I can't wait to get my grubby little hands on this puppy. Who will challenge Greek's Kawasaki Ninja?

[SSM25]

is it HD this time?

[PleoMax]

Is he even a programmer? Isn't he something like the community manager or whatever? Also I know you're trying to make me out to be a Sony fanboy but I'm console agnostic.

So, you don't believe in jesus?

[LukeSmith]

I bet mods are getting spammed right now. Free Nostromo! Is this the first banned developer?

Frankie got banned once, way back when. We were just talking about it the other day.

[vspectra06]

is it HD this time?

Yes.

[chespace]

Leave me the F outta this one, you wacky kids.

I'm just as excited about E3 as the rest of you.

MGS4 trailer fapping included, aight?

But yeah, PGR4 is looking really nice. Buddy of mine took a trip to Bizarre to help tighten up level 3. Can't wait to see what they do with the replay system.

[squicken]

I'm still stuck in shock that he's banned. I mean Che use to say negative stuff all the time about PS3 games, but I never thought he'd get banned. Hell sometimes it was fun arguing with Che.

It wasn't the criticism, it was that first post. There was no context. It read like some random junior's attempt at funny. The rest of his posts were fine.

It's too bad about this thread. I always buy the PGR games, and can't wait for this one. I'm a little worried about the bikes, and if the manufacturers will allow bikes to take spills. My buddies and I don't drive in what you'd call a technical manner when we play PGR.

[jet1911]

I'm still stuck in shock that he's banned. I mean Che use to say negative stuff all the time about PS3 games, but I never thought he'd get banned. Hell sometimes it was fun arguing with Che.

Well Che never came into a thread saying "plastic cars lolz" too. ;)

The number of bans today is pretty high though.

[Mar_]

I think Evilore said once that no one gets special treatment. The motorcycles remind me how much I miss Road Rash.

Exactly my thoughts. I hope in PGR4 you can shunt another rider into the path of an on coming vehicle. That shit is hilarious no matter how many thousands of times you do it.

[op_ivy]

But yeah, PGR4 is looking really nice. Buddy of mine took a trip to Bizarre to help tighten up level 3. Can't wait to see what they do with the replay system.

i hope your buddy wasnt someone responsible for F2's replay system :/

i had to

[WhiteAce]

Nostromo should be definitely brought back, but we then have to allow everyone who derides the game play in Heavenly Sword a free pass to trash it.

[chespace]

i hope your buddy wasnt someone responsible for F2's replay system :/ i had to

Your mouth. Shut it.

No, he's working on audio.

[SealSqueal]

Well to be fair, the cars in PGR3 were the most ridiculously shiny things I have ever seen, but hey as long as it looks good.

Also interested to see how they will balance out bikes against cars, can't imagine that would be easy.

[Scottlarock]

today has been an exciting day. the bikes look great, that city pic is jaw dropping. With forza my main game now, I'm in such a racing mode.

[Rat Salad]

Whats the official word-is it going to release this year?
But anyways-bikes and cars...all in the same race?
I'm getting evil thoughts here.

Like some of the fender bending on XBox Live at times isn't enough,there will be crazies trying to take bike riders out now.

I hope they bring back the no collision system once again.
Otherwise those bikers better be holding shotguns. hah.

[op_ivy]

Your mouth. Shut it. No, he's working on audio.

you guys gotta have something to improve for F3 ;)

[vspectra06]

Your mouth. Shut it. No, he's working on audio.

Like, engine sounds? Forza2's engines sounds are better than PGR3's imo. Good news.

[dfyb]

It wasn't the criticism, it was that first post. There was no context. It read like some random junior's attempt at funny. The rest of his posts were fine.

which is why people jumped the gun too soon. he has the expertise to back up his claims, but he wasn't given teh opportunity to do so because people focused on a small, insignificant comment.

[MightyHedgehog]

How are they going to manage the bikes versus cars. I mean, the bikes should have the maneuverability angle while cars have top speed...but one touch of a car on a bike would always end up the same.

which is why people jumped the gun too soon. he has the expertise to back up his claims, but he wasn't given teh opportunity to do so because people focused on a small, insignificant comment.

Well, he probably should not have even made that first comment since most non-regulars would likely be banned for that as well. Anyway, who cares. It's done and NeoGAF's never been a ****ing democracy.

[CrapSandwich]

I'm going to play this with the wheel for the cars, but the pad for the bikes. I hope they devise a quick way to switch between the two controllers.

[USC-fan]

Frankie got banned once, way back when. We were just talking about it the other day.

the preeminent video game industry discussion community.... ;)

I'm going to play this with the wheel for the cars, but the pad for the bikes. I hope they devise a quick way to switch between the two controllers.

is the wheel even worth getting?

[m0dus]

which is why people jumped the gun too soon. he has the expertise to back up his claims, but he wasn't given teh opportunity to do so because people focused on a small, insignificant comment.

No, expertise has nothing to do with his subjective assesment of what does and doesn't look 'plasticky'. and it was just . . . unprofessional . . . to toss around his 'shader programming experience' as somehow being equivalent to having an eye for what is and is not photorealistic.

Now, if he meant to try to point out some flaw in the actual implementation or performance of said shaders (IE, tearing, frame-dropping, aliasing, etc), I'd be all for it--but trying to equate learned technical expertise with aesthetic judgement is silly.

In other words, one's ability to hold a pen doesn't make them an artist or, in this case, an art critic.

I do think that the banning was probably a bit of a kneejerk response so close to E3, though. If you think about it, the ensuing argument would have been an absolute slaughter, in terms of user bannings . . . :)

And, for the record, I don't think GTHD compares to this (especially those environment shots). with as much as is going on in these screens, I don't think the comparison is even valid.

[professor_t]

LOUD NOISES!!!

[abacab driver]

Holy..
Im REALLY excited about this game.

[CrapSandwich]

is the wheel even worth getting?

It depends on how much you like racing games.

[Dural]

A few more screens I didn't see posted;

[Smokey]

oh my gawd

yet another added to the list of must buys this yr


360 has a serious lineup this fall. serious.

[WhiteAce]

We've seen better and better already exists in GT:HD. There's little question that Bizarre will refine its shaders before release and there's no reason to doubt their ability either. As of today though, I think Nostromo is correct.

have you actually seen PGR4 running in the flesh?

[Xamdou]

OMG PGR4 W/ Cosmetic Damage Confirmed!?

[storybook77]

My wallet is in the corner crying right now.....no, really it is!

[NinSoX]

Absolutely stunning.

[WickedAngel]

.nvm about the dev ban...who cares when there are licensed bikes in PGR4?!

[Liquid]

plastic cars confirmed

i've been laughing at this for a good half hour now. wtf