Betrayalton: Core drops $20, Premium $50, Elite $30 Confirmed

Sho_Nuff82 · (07-31-2007, 06:47 PM)

MS has ceased trying to make sense. Unless the HDD has dropped in price or a memory card is included, the Core pricing scheme makes no sense, and they've somehow managed to make it more of a 'tard pack.

The difference between the Elite and Premium is now greater than it once was.

Wow.

Orlics · (07-31-2007, 06:48 PM)

Haha lol what

Betrayalton indeed.

MS: We dropped the combined price $100.

Y2Kev · (07-31-2007, 06:48 PM)

xboxstradamusssss 2 is hereeeeeeee

edit: Me. It's me. btw.

davepoobond · (07-31-2007, 06:49 PM)

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schuelma · (07-31-2007, 06:50 PM)

So wait they purposefully stayed above 250 with the core? Does Reggie have dirty pictures of Bill Gates or something? They're not even trying.

bud · (07-31-2007, 06:50 PM)

HARRY POOTER

duderon · (07-31-2007, 06:50 PM)

Premium Get

M3wThr33 · (07-31-2007, 06:50 PM)

What made the tard pack tardier?

armubaba · (07-31-2007, 06:50 PM)

What....?

Wow. Just wow.

cjelly · (07-31-2007, 06:50 PM)

Just about confirms another price drop before Christmas.

RubxQub · (07-31-2007, 06:50 PM)

Interesting choice of cuts...

*shrug*

I like it regardless.

Jammy · (07-31-2007, 06:51 PM)

Blast.

donny2112 · (07-31-2007, 06:51 PM)

Maybe Microsoft is trying to clearance out (to make room for the Falcon design) the version with the most stock the fastest?

Originally Posted by schuelma:

So wait they purposefully stayed above 250 with the core? Does Reggie have dirty pictures of Bill Gates or something? They're not even trying.

They don't consider the Wii the console that they have to beat to "win." Sony's always been their target.

Sho_Nuff82 · (07-31-2007, 06:51 PM)

Originally Posted by M3wThr33:

What made the tard pack tardier?

Core + 512MB memory card = $330, which is now $20 less than a Premium, that's what.

Originally Posted by Orlics:

MS: We dropped the combined price $100.

Tobor · (07-31-2007, 06:51 PM)

MS only cares about Sony confirmed.

Kintaro · (07-31-2007, 06:51 PM)

My goodness. Why the ****...

Arthursw1 · (07-31-2007, 06:51 PM)

Betrayalton indeed

Edit: welcome to next gen price cuts!!!

Son of Godzilla · (07-31-2007, 06:52 PM)

A FREE TABLE TENNIS GAME YOU SAY?

kaleii · (07-31-2007, 06:52 PM)

Originally Posted by Orlics:

MS: We dropped the combined price $100.

But yeah, that's pretty strange.

Proelite · (07-31-2007, 06:52 PM)

Microsoft am fail.

Saitou · (07-31-2007, 06:52 PM)

There are no words

Confidence Man · (07-31-2007, 06:52 PM)

What's the problem? You wanted to buy a Core or something?

Shogmaster · (07-31-2007, 06:52 PM)

Anyone could have told you any price cut before the 65nm would have been "wacky" at best.

Y2Kev · (07-31-2007, 06:52 PM)

Originally Posted by Saitou:

There are no words

You should have trusted my vision of a $20 dollar cut!

GhaleonEB · (07-31-2007, 06:52 PM)

I like how Shane Kim and Peter Moore spent several interviews explaining how ~$249 was the "sweet spot" they were trying to get the 360 down to in order to drive mass-market adoption. And now they drop one SKU $50....but not the Core, when the entire reason the Core exists is to reach that pricepoint and thus, market.

Can someone explain how this could make a tiny bit of sense? Even a little?

Microsoft marketing has officially gone batshit insane.

Orlics · (07-31-2007, 06:53 PM)

Even though this drop is quite retarded, it isn't on the level of the concept of the tard pack itself. The general public will only see this as a good thing.

ComputerNerd · (07-31-2007, 06:53 PM)

Thems on crack!

pswii60 · (07-31-2007, 06:54 PM)

Seems like a temporary 'small incentive' price cut to counteract the PS3.

I still think a real price cut is on the way later in the year. It has to be, surely.

Geezer · (07-31-2007, 06:54 PM)

Originally Posted by Orlics:

Haha lol what

Betrayalton indeed.

MS: We dropped the combined price $100.

RiskyChris · (07-31-2007, 06:54 PM)

Originally Posted by donny2112:

They don't consider the Wii the console that they have to beat to "win." Sony's always been their target.

Beating Nintendo would earn them better profits. While they're in the console space, of course they're going to try to compete for market share over Nintendo.

traveler · (07-31-2007, 06:55 PM)

Originally Posted by GhaleonEB:

I like how Shane Kim and Peter Moore spent several interviews explaining how ~$249 was the "sweet spot" they were trying to get the 360 down to in order to drive mass-market adoption. And now they drop one SKU $50....but not the Core, when the entire reason the Core exists is to reach that pricepoint and thus, market.

Can someone explain how this could make a tiny bit of sense? Even a little?

Microsoft marketing has officially gone batshit insane.

You're the "ambassador" here. Why don't you go up to Redmond and tell them that yourself? I'm sure GAF approves.

I agree with you BTW.

Omar Ismail · (07-31-2007, 06:55 PM)

From a percentage perspective it actually makes sense. I think people expecting the core to drop by 50 were pretty crazy. I knew the Elite would go to $449 or 429 as well. And if nobody is buying the core anyway, who cares how much it costs? Certainly not Microsoft.

dfyb · (07-31-2007, 06:55 PM)

schuelma · (07-31-2007, 06:55 PM)

Originally Posted by GhaleonEB:

I like how Shane Kim and Peter Moore spent several interviews explaining how ~$249 was the "sweet spot" they were trying to get the 360 down to in order to drive mass-market adoption. And now they drop one SKU $50....but not the Core, when the entire reason the Core exists is to reach that pricepoint and thus, market.

Can someone explain how this could make a tiny bit of sense? Even a little?

Microsoft marketing has officially gone batshit insane.

Yup exactly my thoughts. It's like they purposefully tried to stay ABOVE the Wii's price point.

Jtyettis · (07-31-2007, 06:55 PM)

Premium will be the sweet spot and I imagine still the SKU that sells the most for them. By Black Friday the Core will be $249, premium $299 and Elite $399.

Not that surprised they are keeping the core however. Maybe there is a memory card pack in. $350 for the premium right before the major hits will do them well.

IJoel · (07-31-2007, 06:55 PM)

Worst price drop EVER!

TDG · (07-31-2007, 06:55 PM)

What the hell?

Everytime I start thinking MS is actually making some good moves, they do something like this that is just so stupid.

This makes no ****ing sense at all.

Triz · (07-31-2007, 06:55 PM)

Maybe they dont want to get slaughtered at the same price point as the Wii?

Tobor · (07-31-2007, 06:55 PM)

So the 120GB drive should drop to an even $120?.

Speevy · (07-31-2007, 06:55 PM)

Y'argh

SepticLiquid · (07-31-2007, 06:56 PM)

<---regrets buying a 360 in May

GhaleonEB · (07-31-2007, 06:56 PM)

Originally Posted by Orlics:

Even though this drop is quite retarded, it isn't on the level of the concept of the tard pack itself. The general public will only see this as a good thing.

The Core was rejected by the public because, despite my general contempt for the collective IQ of said "public", it was percieved as a poor value relative to the Premium. This does nothing to change that. It actually makes it worse.

The Core is a valuable member of the family - the retarded uncle they keep in the basement.

Odysseus · (07-31-2007, 06:56 PM)

not surprising, since this was basically revealed in the other price drop thread. but it just further underscores the notion of them not actually wanting to sell cores right now. they lose too much on them.

with falcon, you will see a marketing and pricing shift.

Hcoregamer00 · (07-31-2007, 06:56 PM)

What is wrong with you guys?

The Premium is the console that sell the most and the most important part is that it is $50 away from the $300 mark.

Core be dammed and Elite be dammed, most people will buy the premium.

Pastry · (07-31-2007, 06:56 PM)

Err price drop is a price drop I guess. It'll help sales some even if it is strange as ****.

Orlics · (07-31-2007, 06:57 PM)

Originally Posted by GhaleonEB:

The Core was rejected by the public because, despite my general contempt for the collective IQ of said "public", it was percieved as a poor value relative to the Premium. This does nothing to change that. It actually makes it worse.

The Core is a valuable member of the family - the retarded uncle they keep in the basement.

I think the fact that they only dropped it $20 is a signal that the Core pack isn't very profitable. This is quite interesting. The consumer doesn't like it, and neither does Microsoft.

SabinFigaro · (07-31-2007, 06:57 PM)

Originally Posted by GhaleonEB:

I like how Shane Kim and Peter Moore spent several interviews explaining how ~$249 was the "sweet spot" they were trying to get the 360 down to in order to drive mass-market adoption. And now they drop one SKU $50....but not the Core, when the entire reason the Core exists is to reach that pricepoint and thus, market.

Can someone explain how this could make a tiny bit of sense? Even a little?

Microsoft marketing has officially gone batshit insane.

/thread

I came in here to say this.

donny2112 · (07-31-2007, 06:57 PM)

Originally Posted by RiskyChris:

Beating Nintendo would earn them better profits. While they're in the console space, of course they're going to try to compete for market share over Nintendo.

"Winning" the most marketshare was not why Microsoft got into the video game business. Beating Sony is. Would they like to "win" and beat the Wii? Sure, but it's not catastrophic if they "only" start making a profit and keep Sony from winning.

Proelite · (07-31-2007, 06:57 PM)

Originally Posted by the disgruntled gamer:

What the hell?

Everytime I start thinking MS is actually making some good moves, they do something like this that is just so stupid.

This makes no ****ing sense at all.

How could a price drop be a stupid move?

MechDX · (07-31-2007, 06:57 PM)

Originally Posted by SepticLiquid:

<---regrets buying a 360 in May

Most stores have a 90 day instore return policy. Take it back and tell them if they dont refund the difference youre going to just return it and buy it elsewhere.