Stranglehold not delayed indefinitely whatsoever for PS3 - Page 2

Kingpen · (08-09-2007, 06:28 PM)

You PS3 guys are going to miss out cause the Stranglehold demo is actually pretty good. It gets even better once you start unlocking additional abilities.

Jim · (08-09-2007, 06:28 PM)

This is for the Euro version BTW. I received that press release also.

As of last night, Midway North America informed us that:

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The full version of Stranglehold is currently expected to ship on August 27th for the Xbox 360 and PC, and September 17th for the PlayStation 3. PC and PlayStation 3 demos coming soon

hyonoid · (08-09-2007, 06:28 PM)

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Although it will definitely be out this year, it seems it won't make the previous september release.

"It’s definitely out this year but no confirmed street date as yet"

12/31 confirmed.

pswii60 · (08-09-2007, 06:28 PM)

Originally Posted by PepsimanVsJoe:

Why would ps3fanboy run with FUD for their own console? Makes absolutely no sense.

Well, ps3fanboy is run by Joystiq, a banned site. EDIT: Joy Stiq

They also trolled the f*** out of Ratchet and Uncharted in their E3 hands-on sessions too.

But they are just relaying a source in this case, to be fair.

Killthee · (08-09-2007, 06:28 PM)

Originally Posted by pswii60:

That isn't another source! Will people stop fucking posting n4g as 'another source' for every news story. n4g just relays and links to other peoples new articles - in this case, the same one.

I'm surprised at this, mainly because of the special edition and region free debate which has been discussed lately, sounded like it was very close. Perhaps it failed certification or something.

QFMFT

Original source:

Originally Posted by PS3Only.nl:

Donderdag 09 augustus 2007 - Vandaag maakte Midway de officiële releasedata van John Woo's Stranglehold bekend. De game heeft in het verleden flink wat vertraging opgelopen, maar de uitgever wist nu te vertellen dat de PC en Xbox 360 versie beide vanaf 27 augustus verkrijgbaar zullen zijn in Amerika en vanaf 7 september ook in Europa.

Helaas ontbreekt de PlayStation 3 versie in dit rijtje. Eerder meldden we al dat Stranglehold op de PS3 iets later zou komen, maar uit navraag blijkt dat de PS3-versie nu zelfs helemaal zonder datum zit. Midway wist ons wel te melden dat de game zeker nog dit jaar op de PS3 zal verschijnen, maar een datum of zelfs termijn voor de game durfden ze helaas niet te noemen.

Does anybody have a link to the PR that was released today? Could this delay be for the Euro version?

InterMoniker · (08-09-2007, 06:28 PM)

Originally Posted by AltogetherAndrews:

You do know who runs the site, right?

Beat you :p

Originally Posted by pswii60:

Well, ps3fanboy is run by Joystiq, a banned site. EDIT: Joy Stiq

They also trolled the f*** out of Ratchet and Uncharted in their E3 hands-on sessions too.

You can drop the F bomb now.

plagiarize · (08-09-2007, 06:29 PM)

Originally Posted by Jim:

This is for the Euro version BTW. I received that press release also.

As of last night, Midway North America informed us that:

thank you Jim. i could kiss you.

now confirm that the Hard Boiled transfer isn't the suck and i'll finger you up the duck pond.

PepsimanVsJoe · (08-09-2007, 06:29 PM)

Originally Posted by AltogetherAndrews:

You do know who runs the site, right?

Oh goodie. *******

Neverfuckingmind.

BenjaminBirdie · (08-09-2007, 06:29 PM)

Originally Posted by Gary Whitta:

Any movie shot on film should be able to make a great HD transfer - 35mm film contains more picture information than any current HD format can display.

No we were discussing the state of the print used by Criterion, who are renowned for using the best possible source materials. Their DVD release did not look like it had really fantastic source materials, which doesn't bode well for an HD transfer. A pixel perfect transfer riddled with detritus and grain is still not that great a viewing experience, regardless of the fidelity.

Dante · (08-09-2007, 06:29 PM)

Originally Posted by PepsimanVsJoe:

Why would ps3fanboy run with FUD for their own console? Makes absolutely no sense.

Stranglehold should be hitting this year, aside from UE3 issues I can't see why there'd be any other delays.

Proc · (08-09-2007, 06:29 PM)

Please just release hardboiled on blu ray:(

Tiduz · (08-09-2007, 06:29 PM)

Originally Posted by AltogetherAndrews:

Er, so what's the source for this again?

a dutch ps3 site, ill read it since im dutch and see if they maybe mistranslated. ok this is how it is: The 360 and PC dates are definite, the ps3 DOES NOT have a solid release date, only known that is coming this year but NO Date, so apparantly its not in september like other sites suggested. so it seems europe is fucked up the ass once more.

Greg · (08-09-2007, 06:29 PM)

Well, at least all the 1st-party games are still on sched-...

FUCK!

Gattsu25 · (08-09-2007, 06:29 PM)

Originally Posted by AltogetherAndrews:

You do know who runs the site, right?

who?

FFChris · (08-09-2007, 06:30 PM)

With the PS3 version delayed it's going to be a little tougher for Stranglehold to be the bestselling game of the year. I'm sure Midway have high hopes though!

dallow_bg · (08-09-2007, 06:30 PM)

Originally Posted by JdFoX187:

People on the OT were saying the Hard Boiled transfer was pretty bad. I know it's an old movie and wasn't filmed with HD in mind or anything.

You must have not seen any of the "old" movies out there right now in both HD formats then...

Killthee · (08-09-2007, 06:30 PM)

Originally Posted by Jim:

This is for the Euro version BTW. I received that press release also.

As of last night, Midway North America informed us that:

I knew it. Thanks.

plagiarize · (08-09-2007, 06:30 PM)

Originally Posted by FFChris:

With the PS3 version delayed it's going to be a little tougher for Stranglehold to be the bestselling game of the year. I'm sure Midway have high hopes though!

given that the demo killed Xbox live, i'm not sure how stupid Midway are to guess it's going to be their best selling title this year.

AltogetherAndrews · (08-09-2007, 06:32 PM)

Originally Posted by Gattsu25:

who?

See the top of the ps3fanboy.com site, it says it right there. "******* presents"

White Man · (08-09-2007, 06:32 PM)

Originally Posted by plagiarize:

thank you Jim. i could kiss you.

now confirm that the Hard Boiled transfer isn't the suck and i'll finger you up the duck pond.

I think any impressions that it's a iffy transfer come from the recent BD release of the movie, which had some issues (the only main problem I recall is that the subtitles are bad--the subtitles are taken from the english dub, not a translation of the original dub). I think there was also a framing or aspect ratio issue. I forget. Nothing that sounded too serious.

Forsete · (08-09-2007, 06:32 PM)

You know, not that I care so much about this game.. But Unreal Engine 3.0 seems like a huge fucking disaster so far.

Jim · (08-09-2007, 06:32 PM)

Originally Posted by Killthee:

Does anybody have a link to the PR that was released today? Could this delay be for the Euro version?

It wasn't even a press release. It was just a note from Midway UK listing the release dates for the Xbox 360 and PC versions w/o mentioning the PS3 version.

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"Midway Games confirms that Stranglehold will ship on September 7th for the Xbox 360 and PC across Europe."

FFChris · (08-09-2007, 06:33 PM)

Originally Posted by plagiarize:

given that the demo killed Xbox live, i'm not sure how stupid Midway are to guess it's going to be their best selling title this year.

Did they say 'their'? I thought they said 'the'.

indie85 · (08-09-2007, 06:34 PM)

cant say im bothered either way...

plagiarize · (08-09-2007, 06:34 PM)

Originally Posted by White Man:

I think any impressions that it's a iffy transfer come from the recent BD release of the movie, which had some issues (the only main problem I recall is that the subtitles are bad--the subtitles are taken from the english dub, not a translation of the original dub). I think there was also a framing or aspect ratio issue. I forget. Nothing that sounded too serious.

framing and aspect ratio would be serious to me, espescially if it's distorted, but frankly i'd take it over the shit we've gotten of this on DVD over the years.

JdFoX187 · (08-09-2007, 06:36 PM)

Originally Posted by Dante:

Jim I beleive said it's not the same.

Midway is handling THIS transfer.

If that's true, I might end up renting this version and buying the Blu Ray version when it comes out.

Tiduz · (08-09-2007, 06:36 PM)

im so confused now, is it delayed for Euro or not? or does no one know for sure yet?

Teknopathetic · (08-09-2007, 06:36 PM)

"You know, not that I care so much about this game.. But Unreal Engine 3.0 seems like a huge fucking disaster so far."

This is why reading threads is a good thing, guys.

ManaByte · (08-09-2007, 06:38 PM)

Originally Posted by White Man:

I think any impressions that it's a iffy transfer come from the recent BD release of the movie, which had some issues (the only main problem I recall is that the subtitles are bad--the subtitles are taken from the english dub, not a translation of the original dub). I think there was also a framing or aspect ratio issue. I forget. Nothing that sounded too serious.

They basically cropped the film wrong and then stretched and zoomed in on it to get it to fit the 16:9 frame "correctly". The closest analogy to how the new transfer looks is almost like watching 4:3 SD content on your digital cable and using the cable box to zoom in and stretch it to fit the 16:9 screen. And yes the subtitles are actually dubtitles.

JdFoX187 · (08-09-2007, 06:38 PM)

Originally Posted by dallow_bg:

You must have not seen any of the "old" movies out there right now in both HD formats then...

Granted, I don't have a lot of Blu Ray movies at the moment, but the one I'm anticipating the most is Lawrence of Arabia on Blu Ray. I haven't seen a lot of them, but I know some are going to be good and some are going to be horrible.

gcubed · (08-09-2007, 06:40 PM)

its amazing that after it was stated that its a Euro delay people still post shit...

apparently reading a thread isnt neccessary on GAF? Hell, not even reading the OP as it has been updated.

BenjaminBirdie · (08-09-2007, 06:40 PM)

Originally Posted by JdFoX187:

Granted, I don't have a lot of Blu Ray movies at the moment, but the one I'm anticipating the most is Lawrence of Arabia on Blu Ray. I haven't seen a lot of them, but I know some are going to be good and some are going to be horrible.

What I was referring to back in that other thread was that classic movies that are being described have been stored in optimal conditions for decades by studios who treat them like gold bars. The print of Hard Boiled used by Criterion did not appear to be maintained with the same exacting standard.

plagiarize · (08-09-2007, 06:41 PM)

Originally Posted by JdFoX187:

If that's true, I might end up renting this version and buying the Blu Ray version when it comes out.

no blu-ray (or hd-dvd) version has been announced, and last i checked the Weinstein Company (that have the rights) are still hd-dvd exclusive, though i'm sure someone will correct me if that's wrong.

point being, you could be waiting a while for that blu-ray.

JdFoX187 · (08-09-2007, 06:42 PM)

Originally Posted by BenjaminBirdie:

What I was referring to back in that other thread was that classic movies that are being described have been stored in optimal conditions for decades by studios who treat them like gold bars. The print of Hard Boiled used by Criterion did not appear to be maintained with the same exacting standard.

I imagine a lot of these were found in the salt mine up in Kansas that was uncovered a while back. There were rows and rows of movies there that had been stored for who knows how long and were in perfect condition.

Originally Posted by plagiarize:

no blu-ray (or hd-dvd) version has been announced, and last i checked the Weinstein Company (that have the rights) are still hd-dvd exclusive, though i'm sure someone will correct me if that's wrong.

point being, you could be waiting a while for that blu-ray.

When I said Blu Ray, I meant PS3. I might rent the Xbox 360 version of Stranglehold to play through with rumble and achievements, but buy the PS3 version to replay and for Hard Boiled.

painey · (08-09-2007, 06:43 PM)

Originally Posted by Gary Whitta:

"FUCK!"

$30m budget aint shit to chadwarden

plagiarize · (08-09-2007, 06:44 PM)

Originally Posted by JdFoX187:

I imagine a lot of these were found in the salt mine up in Kansas that was uncovered a while back. There were rows and rows of movies there that had been stored for who knows how long and were in perfect condition.

When I said Blu Ray, I meant PS3. I might rent the Xbox 360 version of Stranglehold to play through with rumble and achievements, but buy the PS3 version to replay and for Hard Boiled.

understood :)

dallow_bg · (08-09-2007, 06:46 PM)

It's a HK action movie, I don't believe those studios took as much care as American studios to preserve the film.

However, even a bad HD transfer is better than even the best DVD.

Barnolde · (08-09-2007, 06:50 PM)

All Euro people should be importing the CE for Hard Boiled anyway.

InterMoniker · (08-09-2007, 06:55 PM)

Originally Posted by BenjaminBirdie:

No, I think it's okay:

Ok.

Tiduz · (08-09-2007, 06:59 PM)

Originally Posted by Barnolde:

All Euro people should be importing the CE for Hard Boiled anyway.

Bluray movies arent region free :(

BenjaminBirdie · (08-09-2007, 07:00 PM)

Originally Posted by InterMoniker:

Ok.

Well, it was.

Originally Posted by Tiduz:

Bluray movies arent region free :(

Seriously, I have not been lying. It is not a seperate blu-ray movie. I am not messing with you.

Killthee · (08-09-2007, 07:06 PM)

Originally Posted by Tiduz:

Bluray movies arent region free :(

Games are and the movie is on the same disk as the game.

Tiduz · (08-09-2007, 07:06 PM)

Originally Posted by BenjaminBirdie:

Well, it was.
Seriously, I have not been lying. It is not a seperate blu-ray movie. I am not messing with you.

interesting, i just might import then ^^

Barnolde · (08-09-2007, 07:08 PM)

Originally Posted by Tiduz:

interesting, i just might import then ^^

Midway confirmed the PS3 (incl. CE) as well as 360 version are region free, import away.

Mmmkay · (08-09-2007, 07:09 PM)

Originally Posted by Tiduz:

Bluray movies arent region free :(

It's not particularly relevant to this Stranglehold release, but the majority of Blu-ray movies are region free.

plagiarize · (08-09-2007, 07:11 PM)

erm...

word to importers...

http://kotaku.com/gaming/i.m-sad/how...ood-285067.php

says that it's region protected because of the film... however i can't find that mentioned anywhere in the source.

edit: nevermind. just Kotaku making up shit with their eyes.

oldboy1 · (08-09-2007, 07:16 PM)

Midway forums is the source.

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Midway has decided to make both the standard version and the North American Collector's Edition (with Hard Boiled on Blu-ray)of Stranglehold region free. Please be clear that the Collector's Edition with the movie is only available in North America, so if you live elsewhere, you'll have to buy it as an import.

I guess the higher ups do listen to you guys on the forums!

OokieSpookie · (08-09-2007, 07:23 PM)

Originally Posted by plagiarize:

no blu-ray (or hd-dvd) version has been announced, and last i checked the Weinstein Company (that have the rights) are still hd-dvd exclusive, though i'm sure someone will correct me if that's wrong.

point being, you could be waiting a while for that blu-ray.

Weinstein will start releasing on BR late this year

Jim · (08-09-2007, 07:27 PM)

To be thorough, I just contacted Midway U.S. and got the following response:

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I can confirm that Stranglehold is shipping on 8/27 for X360 and PC and 9/17 for PS3 here in the U.S. If you have any questions, please let me know.

plagiarize · (08-09-2007, 07:31 PM)

Originally Posted by Jim:

To be thorough, I just contacted Midway U.S. and got the following response:

which way to the duck pond?