few minutes of ‘300’ too much for some middle school’s parents

[Ripclawe]

http://www.northwestgeorgia.com/loca...235221509.html

A few minutes of ‘300’ too much for some middle school’s parents By Victor Alvis Dalton Daily Citizen A screening Wednesday of the first few minutes of the R-rated movie “300” in a Westside Middle School classroom has left more than one parent and some students upset. Richard Schoen, executive director of assessment and accountability for Whitfield County Schools, said about five minutes of the movie was shown. According to two parents, history teacher Brad Barrett showed the first 7-9 minutes of the movie as part of his class. Barrett could not be reached for comment. “My daughter came home from school yesterday distraught, saying her teacher showed her an R-rated movie. I was shocked,” said parent Tina McCurley. “I found out it was the ‘300.’ It was the first time I’d heard of the movie, so I went online (to www.ChristianAnswers.net) to read the reviews. They described it as a pornographic slaughter movie with prolonged scenes of female nudity, sex acts, lesbian and homosexual content.” The Internet Movie Database, www.IMDb.com, says “300” is based on Frank Miller’s graphic novel concerning the 480 B.C. Battle of Thermopylae, in which the King of Sparta led his army of 300 against the advancing Persians; the battle is said to have inspired all of Greece to band together against the much larger Persian army and helped to usher in the world’s first democracy. Schoen said on Thursday that administrators have investigated the incident and confirmed only about a five-minute clip of the movie was shown. “I watched it with the principal (Stan Stewart). The clip had no profanity, no nudity, no violence,” he said. “It depicts a Spartan boy and the process he went through in attempting to attain manhood. We didn’t find it disturbing and thought it was appropriate to the lesson. There were no battle scenes. The clip starts with a boy as a baby and ends as he enters the army.” Schoen confirmed one scene depicts the boy using a spear to protect himself from a wolf. The violence is shown off screen via a shadow on a wall, he said. “Most sixth-graders are 12 years old,” Schoen said. “This is not something that age group is not reasonably exposed to on today’s television.” Schoen said movies shown at the middle school level should be on an approved list, available from the school media center or pre-approved by the principal. “This one wasn’t,” he said. “That is something we will deal with. We will handle that as a personnel issue in an appropriate manner.” Schoen did not say how long Barrett has been a teacher, but he said Barrett is not new to the profession. “From what I’m hearing, the teacher showed it to them to get them ready to study ... that time period, so they could understand what it was like then,” McCurley said. “From everything I’ve read, the previews and the trailer, I don’t feel the movie is appropriate for these students. If movie theaters can’t show rated-R movies without a parent present, how can they do this in the schools?” McCurley said she wants her daughter removed from the class. “My daughter could not sleep last night, and I’ve heard many others couldn’t either,” she said, allowing she sees nothing wrong with the movie’s first five minutes. “We don’t know how much he showed to them. The students were not sitting there looking at their watches. I don’t care if it was one minute. ‘R’ movies have no place in our schools.” A mother of another child in the class said she finds it upsetting that the movie was shown to new middle-schoolers during the second full week of school. “We don’t allow R-rated movies in our home. It’s humiliating for Westside, but I can see where the teacher had a history lesson he was trying to get across,” she said. “I hate it for the school and the teacher. I know he was trying to hook them into being interested in that war and that age.” The parent said her daughter is part of a gender-based classroom of all girls, and she understands mixed-gender classes saw it, too. “We’re having mass killings in schools, then they show this movie. My daughter was very confused and took it at a different level,” she said. “Parents should be notified beforehand. My child would not have gone to school that day if I had been told. I told her, ‘If they put it back in (Thursday), call me.’”

[Zeed]

All they showed was the introduction, and the killing of the wolf is keeping the kids up at night?

For fuck's sake.

[Verboten]

Wow, that's the least violent part of the movie. I think the most blood they show is when a 7 year old Leonidas is punching that kid that he's mounted. The last punch he deals has a lot of blood, but still. I wish I'd see something that cool in middleschool.

[titiklabingapat]

Where's the lesbian and gay men's content apart from the naked dudes running around?

[ckohler]

“It was the first time I’d heard of the movie, so I went online (to www.ChristianAnswers.net) to read the reviews."

Well, that explains that.

[RBH]

“I found out it was the ‘300.’ It was the first time I’d heard of the movie, so I went online (to www.ChristianAnswers.net) to read the reviews.

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

“My daughter came home from school yesterday distraught, saying her teacher showed her an R-rated movie. I was shocked,” said parent Tina McCurley. “I found out it was the ‘300.’ It was the first time I’d heard of the movie, so I went online (to www.ChristianAnswers.net) to read the reviews. They described it as a pornographic slaughter movie with prolonged scenes of female nudity, sex acts, lesbian and homosexual content.” “From what I’m hearing, the teacher showed it to them to get them ready to study ... that time period, so they could understand what it was like then,” McCurley said. “From everything I’ve read, the previews and the trailer, I don’t feel the movie is appropriate for these students. If movie theaters can’t show rated-R movies without a parent present, how can they do this in the schools?”

They say assumptions make an ass of you and me, but the only ass I see here is this woman assuming shit about something she doesn't know.

At least my assumption about her being a dumbshit judgmental religious nut was accurate.

Teaching children that it's okay to speak authoritatively on a subject you know nothing about is far more damaging than watching a kid kill a wolf and turn into a king.

[Chony]

We watched a baby being born in middle school. That was far more shocking at the time.

[Ryck]

Yeah that part got me too.

[Brobzoid]

damn morans.

[Lelielle]

Where's the lesbian and gay men's content apart from the naked dudes running around?

From what I have heard "300" had not nearly enough gay man stuff given the setting....

[malek4980]

Just because a movie is 'R' rated that doesn't mean that every single frame in the movie warrants an 'R' rating. I don't see what the rating of the movie has to do with the scene they watched. The movie may contain "slaughter... scenes of female nudity, sex acts, lesbian and homosexual content" but if the particular scene does not, then what are the parents complaining about?

“We’re having mass killings in schools, then they show this movie.

rollseyes

[mrklaw]

Just because a movie is 'R' rated that doesn't mean that every single frame in the movie warrants an 'R' rating. I don't see what the rating of the movie has to do with the scene they watched. The movie may contain "slaughter... scenes of female nudity, sex acts, lesbian and homosexual content" but if the particular scene does not, then what are the parents complaining about?

perhaps the part where a school shows an R rated movie to minors?

At what point did it become OK to bypass certification and just pick out 'the bits that aren't so bad' and thats fine?

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

The movie may contain "slaughter... scenes of female nudity, sex acts, lesbian and homosexual content" but if the particular scene does not, then what are the parents complaining about?

It doesn't have Jesus in it to make the bad parts okay.

[Core407]

Why the fuck are they using MOVIES to TEACH. I don't know if they got the memo, but just because it was in a movie, doesn't make it a fact. The 300 is an interpretation of the actual event and an extremely liberal one at that.

[Barnolde]

They say assumptions make an ass of you and me, but the only ass I see here is this woman assuming shit about something she doesn't know. At least my assumption about her being a dumbshit judgmental religious nut was accurate. Teaching children that it's okay to speak authoritatively on a subject you know nothing about is far more damaging than watching a kid kill a wolf and turn into a king.

So true.

[MrToughPants]

“My daughter came home from school yesterday distraught, saying her teacher showed her an R-rated movie. I was shocked,” said parent Tina McCurley. “I found out it was the ‘300.’ It was the first time I’d heard of the movie, so I went online (to www.ChristianAnswers.net) to read the reviews. They described it as a pornographic slaughter movie with prolonged scenes of female nudity, sex acts, lesbian and homosexual content.”

This thread belongs in here.

Is the average American dumber than a monkey?

[Raistlin]

Wait ... so the principal confirmed that the scene shown has no nudity, swearing, and the only real violence is against a wolf via shadow ... yet the parents keep stating, "but the review ... the review says its all sex and blood"?


jesus christ ... STFU!!!!

[Core407]

Why exactly did they show the movie? What purpose did it have?

Edit: To show them what it was like during that time? Read a fuckin' book, people. I think the kids would be more interested in hearing about how they would throw defective newborns away.

[ronito]

wtf if the teacher thinking showing any part of 300 in class? It's hardly historic or factual. Also in an age where sites like christiananswers.com exist why would you do that?

[malek4980]

perhaps the part where a school shows an R rated movie to minors? At what point did it become OK to bypass certification and just pick out 'the bits that aren't so bad' and thats fine?

So if a teacher shows a scene that only includes some random shots of city buildings, but the scene is part of a movie that is NC17, it is just as bad as showing an NC17 movie in its entirety?

[Eric P]

They described it as a pornographic slaughter movie with prolonged scenes of female nudity, sex acts, lesbian and homosexual content.”

i had no desire to see 300

until now

[fistfulofmetal]

Why exactly did they show the movie? What purpose did it have? Edit: To show them what it was like during that time? Read a fuckin' book, people. I think the kids would be more interested in hearing about how they would throw defective newborns away.

So you think kids in school today would rather read about it, then see it in a movie?

Are you 50 or something?

[teruterubozu]

So it's like the first 30 seconds of porn where the chick answers the door to the TV repair man.

TV repairman: "Something not working?
Chick: "You bet mister!"

*Shut off DVD*

[cubicle47b]

i had no desire to see 300 until now

Yeah, I love these sites.

Negative - I was actually excited to see this film. I’ve always been more on the 'nerdy' side and am proud of it so I thought the idea was actually kind of funny. However, I did not expect the movie to be so offensive. Mostly my fault for not thinking, however I took my girlfriend and a small group of friends and I actually felt sick sitting in the theater. I say this more so because its sad that the majority of society supports and embraces what this film promotes. Promiscuity, drunkenness, profanity, adultery are all themes heavily present and promoted through this film. I do not recommend this movie to any viewer. I left this movie feeling as if I lost something.

Neutral - This movie is not for the faint at heart. I saw it with my girlfriend and was extremely uncomfortable throughout the movie. The language is profane, the sexual content is explicit, and the moral value is limited. With that being said, it was funny and fairly accurately portrayed the mind-set of typical suburban teenagers. I recognized myself in some of the characters, that is, before I accepted Christ.

^ Superbad comments

[MoxManiac]

ChristianAnswers.net

[Armitage]

My Spanish teacher wouldn't let us say 'shut up', she led a christian prayer in class (I kid you not) and then, at the end of the year, proceeded to show us Scarface in its entirety.

[ConfusingJazz]

Why the fuck are they using MOVIES to TEACH. I don't know if they got the memo, but just because it was in a movie, doesn't make it a fact. The 300 is an interpretation of the actual event and an extremely liberal one at that.

What they should show is "The 300 Spartans," which is what Frank Millar based the comic about. And if they want to show the true might of the Roman Legions, then its Spartacus. Both of them did a much better job (which isn't really saying much) then the modern counterparts of classic epics.

[Core407]

So you think kids in school today would rather read about it, then see it in a movie? Are you 50 or something?

I don't give a shit what they would "rather" do. Reread what you just wrote and realize how stupid it is. Since when do kids make up the curriculum? Don't want to read? FAIL. No wonder todays kids are coming out big dumb pussies. Bring back dodgeball, make 'em read REAL books and quit lowering the standards.

[glistenm]

A screening Wednesday of the first few minutes of the R-rated movie “300” in a Westside Middle School classroom

A screening Wednesday of the first few minutes of the R-rated movie “300” in a Westside Middle School classroom

Jesus fuck.

[El_Victor]

Jesus fuck.

Nothing, nothing in the first few minutes deserves the R-rating, Jesus fuck.

[Core407]

What they should show is "The 300 Spartans," which is what Frank Millar based the comic about. And if they want to show the true might of the Roman Legions, then its Spartacus. Both of them did a much better job (which isn't really saying much) then the modern counterparts of classic epics.

They should show LOTR in geography class. That way kids will know what New Zealand looked like in the past.

[element]

I watched Old Yeller as a 2nd grader.

now that fucked me up for years!!

[glistenm]

Nothing, nothing in the first few minutes deserves the R-rating, Jesus fuck.

Have you been in middle school? When a movie shown, they don't show a "few minutes" of it.

[Core407]

Have you been in middle school? When a movie shown, they don't show a "few minutes" of it.

Read the OP. He showed the first couple minutes for an actual lesson. Not because it was movie day or something.

[Osorio]

I hate any parents in the original article. I don't understand these kids lifestyles and maybe I was raised in a different environment but seriously. This is some bullshit.

[MattKeil]

Why exactly did they show the movie? What purpose did it have? Edit: To show them what it was like during that time? Read a fuckin' book, people. I think the kids would be more interested in hearing about how they would throw defective newborns away.

That is actually the first thing 300 talks about.

The purpose is to use a flashy and modern entertainment piece to catch the kids' attention and give them a visual representation of what's about to be studied. Modern children lack visual imagination to a startling degree, and catching their eye in this manner is a tried and true method of teaching.

There's nothing R-rated in the clip shown. This is simply yet more American parental idiocy from ignorant people who can't be bothered to see for themselves what is shown, and instead raise hell over the concept of what could have happened, based on hearsay, internet blather, and biased sources. Yet another non-issue inflated to "newsworthy" status by a screeching minority.

And yeah, if your daughter is 12 and having nightmares about that wolf? Your daughter is a pussy.

[Xater]

www.ChristianAnswers.net

Only in America....

I just took a quick look at random review (The Invasion). Those guys are awesome. The morale rating is: Very offensive. And it has a great quote:

As always, horror movies very rarely give a positive message and never use God as the turning point to all of life’s, of this world’s, pain and anguish. The answer is always there, we just need to crack open our Bibles and see it.

I LOLed so hard. Well at least the page told me that the director is the one from "Der Untergang" that actually makes me wanna see it.

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Have you been in middle school? When a movie shown, they don't show a "few minutes" of it.

Apparently you don't like to be knowledgeable on what you're talking about. You may find some friends on this ChristianAnswers.net site.

[AltogetherAndrews]

Shoot the parents and the student. Weakness like this is not desirable.

[PantherLotus]

"God made me a homosexual..." Homosexuals argue that they did not make a conscious decision to be that way, so it must be natural. They are born that way-just as all of us are born with a sin nature and sinful desires (Ephesians 2:1-3). Tell them that it is natural for them, and for all of us, to be tempted to do things that God says are wrong. In the same way, pedophiles and adulterers (alcoholics, drug addicts, etc.) don't make a conscious decision to "choose" that self-destructive lifestyle; they simply give in to their sinful desires. However, although sin is natural for unbelievers, that doesn't mean God wants them to remain that way. God can set them free from their sinful nature (Romans 7:23-8:2), give them new desires (Ephesians 4:22-24), and help them withstand temptations (1 Corinthians 10:13). Possible Response: "I too was born with homosexual tendencies... I was also born with a tendency to lie, steal, commit adultery and fornicate. It's called 'sin' and it's in every one of us." You can then proceed to use the law to awaken the conscience. The Bible tells us that the Moral Law was made for homosexuals (see 1 Timothy 1:8-10). If you use the Law when you witness to them you won't even have to touch on their "sexual orientation," and therefore be accused of hating homosexuals. The Law will show him that he is damned, despite his sexual preference. When he finds a place of true repentance and faith in Jesus, God will take away his unclean spirit and give him a new heart with new desires.

[shuri]

Why do I have a perfect mental image of the mom and the daughter in my head?

[AlphaSnake]

I love* these fucking Christian sites and the morons who post there. Why watch a movie like Superbad or 300? You know exactly what it's all about. These movies are controversial with constant attention from the media talking about some of their most gruesome/disgustingly hilarious scenes. They know what they're getting themselves into. They're just running back to their online choir to preach about, in a vain attempt, to prove to their peers that they are "good Christians" that got duped by the evil Hollywood.

People are fucking stupid.

*Hate

[glistenm]

Read the OP. He showed the first couple minutes for an actual lesson. Not because it was movie day or something.

I'm gonna go ahead and say that's bullshit.


I ask again, have any of you guys been in middle school?

whatever, they should play porno in shcools.

[TheDuce22]

Have you seen the shit they show on the christian network. Its far more offensive and insulting than anything in 300.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jNd-W0uDUk

[Osorio]

That is actually the first thing 300 talks about. The purpose is to use a flashy and modern entertainment piece to catch the kids' attention and give them a visual representation of what's about to be studied. Modern children lack visual imagination to a startling degree, and catching their eye in this manner is a tried and true method of teaching. There's nothing R-rated in the clip shown. This is simply yet more American parental idiocy from ignorant people who can't be bothered to see for themselves what is shown, and instead raise hell over the concept of what could have happened, based on hearsay, internet blather, and biased sources. Yet another non-issue inflated to "newsworthy" status by a screeching minority. And yeah, if your daughter is 12 and having nightmares about that wolf? Your daughter is a pussy.

Exactly all these parents make retarded knee jerk reactions before they even see the clip. The parent wants her child out of the class? How about you look at the clip before making judgment? There have been several stories like this in the past and it just makes me angry thinking about how stupid parents in this country really are. When it's time to be a parent they don't really do anything such as being aware of what their child is up to in their own home. But once they find out somebody other than them is showing them something "inappropriate for their age" all of a sudden they get a sudden jolt of interest in their child's lives. Thank god I've never lived in a suburban neighborhood.

[Zombie James]

Fucking pussies.

[PantherLotus]

# "Morality is relative" or "There are no absolutes!" An example conversation: Larry: "I heard you say that pornography is wrong. I disagree." Christian: "Why's that?" Larry: "There's nothing wrong with it." Christian: "Do you think child pornography is right or wrong?" Larry: It's wrong." Christian: "So you have drawn a moral line between what you think is right and what you think is wrong. At what age then does child pornography become respectable pornography? Is it when the child turns 14, 15, 16, 17 years old?" Larry: "16." Christian: "Can't you see what you are doing? You are judging whether something is morally acceptable by when it gives you pleasure." Larry: "But . . ." Christian: "God gave you a conscience. You know right from wrong. Isn't that true?" Larry: "No." Christian: "So if someone steals your wallet you don't mind because you have no idea what's right and what's wrong?" Larry: "Okay. So I know right from wrong." Christian: "You are like a man who has removed the batteries from his smoke detector because he doesn't want it to alarm him. Listen to your conscience. It is trying to warn you of danger. If you don't repent and trust the Savior you will end up in Hell. On Judgment Day you will be without excuse. Jesus said, 'Whoever looks upon a woman to lust after her, has committed adultery already with her in his heart. You are in big trouble." Those who say that that there are no absolutes are often very adamant about their belief. If they say that they are absolutely sure, then they are wrong because their own statement is an absolute statement. If they are not 100% sure, then there is a chance that they are wrong and they are risking their eternal salvation by trusting in a belief that could be wrong.

[PantherLotus]

Exactly all these parents make retarded knee jerk reactions before they even see the clip. The parent wants her child out of the class? How about you look at the clip before making judgment? There have been several stories like this in the past and it just makes me angry thinking about how stupid parents in this country really are. When it's time to be a parent they don't really do anything such as being aware of what their child is up to in their own home. But once they find out somebody other than them is showing them something "inappropriate for their age" all of a sudden they get a sudden jolt of interest in their child's lives. Thank god I've never lived in a suburban neighborhood.

These are the same fuckers who ruined Halloween. The funny part is that the opposite fuckers ruined Christmas in retaliation and the thick-headed Evangelicals claim that secularists are ruining their moral culture. They did it to themselves!

I started hating these types a long, long time ago. I remember the day they changed the Halloween Parade at elementary to 'Fall Festival (please don't dress up)'.

[cubicle47b]

I'm gonna go ahead and say that's bullshit. I ask again, have any of you guys been in middle school?

No, I'm sure most of us are 11. I'm going to go ahead and call bullshit on you calling bullshit.