The Official Halo 3 Thread - Page 1510

PedroLumpy · (10-09-2008, 06:26 AM)

Man it's cool how they have the superintendent trying to figure out what happened all within the context of it's purpose and the tools it has at it's disposal. I loved "MOTOR VEHICLE CRASH!" in particular.

SpudBud · (10-09-2008, 06:27 AM)

I don't think Halo 3 was built with campaign DLC in mind, was it? How would a DLC release work if that was that case?

I'm really thinking this might be a retail only release.

Merguson · (10-09-2008, 06:30 AM)

Woo.

Cocopjojo · (10-09-2008, 06:31 AM)

Originally Posted by SpudBud:

I don't think Halo 3 was built with campaign DLC in mind, was it? How would a DLC release work if that was that case?

Download it, and it loads up from the lobby menu, just like "Forge," "Theater," and everything else. You may even get a drop-down menu when you select campaign - "Halo 3," "Recon."

There's no way that this game wasn't in the development stage when Halo 3 was being made.

SpudBud · (10-09-2008, 06:31 AM)

Originally Posted by Merguson:

Woo.

So awesome.

vhfive · (10-09-2008, 06:32 AM)

Originally Posted by Sean:

I'll have to look over the achievements list again, but there are six unreleased maps right? That's enough for TWO map packs... Both Heroic and Legendary had three each.

Perhaps Mythic map pack will come Fall 2009 but we'll get one earlier than that? I'd hope so anyway... I really can't see Bungie hyping a map (Assembly) over a year before it was due to be released.

normal map pack
featuring remakes of:
isolation (improved with shield doors)
epitaph (now with even more shield doors)
construct (now with one lift and sword spawn right next to it... and shield doors)

and they will all be done with human architecture (like blackout)

ps teaser looked sick but would like more info on maps and confirmation on when they are coming out

spermatic cord · (10-09-2008, 06:34 AM)

Originally Posted by vhfive:

normal map pack
featuring remakes of:
isolation (improved with shield doors)
epitaph (now with even more shield doors again)
construct (now with one lift and sword spawn right next to it... and shield doors)

and they will all be done with human architecture (like blackout)

you're forgetting the remake of foundry where there's a single mongoose on the map for no reason(to be added along side regular foundry in matchmaking)

Iced_Eagle · (10-09-2008, 06:35 AM)

Any bets if we will see his face, or if he will be another hero with no face?

Dirtbag · (10-09-2008, 06:36 AM)

Originally Posted by godhandiscen:

Two years after release you would be expecting at least a pass of AA.

I'll share your disappointment if not. I get a ton of jaggies on my 1080p set.
Way more then probably everything I've played on it (with my 360). I'm sure there are worse offenders out there, but I haven't personally experienced them. The jaggies have never come close to ruining my experience, but it would certainly be something I'd like to see improved upon.

Originally Posted by Iced_Eagle:

Any bets if we will see his face, or if he will be another hero with no face?

Initially I think, no way.
But maybe they will as showing the hero's face gives them something new to distinguish this game from halo 3, and a different angle to play with narrative.

I bet we dont see his face though.

Cocopjojo · (10-09-2008, 06:39 AM)

Originally Posted by Dirtbag 504:

I'll share your disappointment if not. I get a ton of jaggies on my 1080p set.
Way more then probably everything I've played on it (with my 360). I'm sure there are worse offenders out there, but I haven't personally experienced them. The jaggies have never come close to ruining my experience, but it would certainly be something I'd like to see improved upon.

This. They've never been a problem in the slightest for me, either, but, yeah, it would definitely make the game look infinitely better if they went away.

GhaleonEB · (10-09-2008, 06:39 AM)

I've collected the official stuff in the OP, as well as a few of the more recent Halo 3 changes, for the heck of it.

SpudBud · (10-09-2008, 06:39 AM)

Originally Posted by Cocopjojo:

Download it, and it loads up from the lobby menu, just like "Forge," "Theater," and everything else. You may even get a drop-down menu when you select campaign - "Halo 3," "Recon."

There's no way that this game wasn't in the development stage when Halo 3 was being made.

Maybe I'm hoping it's a retail only release because that implies the engine was improved in some way and is not plagued by the same issues Halo 3 was graphical (Sub-HD, no AA)

HugBasket · (10-09-2008, 06:42 AM)

guys

let me do the speculating from now on

Dirtbag · (10-09-2008, 06:44 AM)

Originally Posted by SpudBud:

Maybe I'm hoping it's a retail only release because that implies the engine was improved in some way and is not plagued by the same issues Halo 3 was graphical (Sub-HD, no AA)

You can still make those improvements via download. The engine is the smallest piece when compared to textures / audio.
I just picture this re-using certain assets - like gun models, weapon textures, etc..
Requiring the halo 3 disk in the tray to play could save a download friendly version tons of space.

If this launches with the Mythic Map pack, I don't see why you would expect this to be separate from halo 3 multiplayer.

Tieno · (10-09-2008, 06:44 AM)

More excited for the new campaign than MP, Halo has always shone the most as an SP experience for me, especially with co-op in 3.

got2bekidding · (10-09-2008, 06:51 AM)

Add me for any and all future Gaf games if you need a player. I went through a spell there not playing (horrible shit went down :( )and was deleted by a few but it was definitely the most fun playing with the folks on here. So send me an invite if you want to.

Kuroyume · (10-09-2008, 06:54 AM)

Originally Posted by spermatic cord:

you're forgetting the remake of foundry where there's a single mongoose on the map for no reason(to be added along side regular foundry in matchmaking)

So that's it...

I've had Anvil (I think it's called that) come up like twice and it's been vetoed both times, but each time it happened some player would goof on about some mongoose. I've been wondering what the fuck that's about. Why is there a moongoose there?

Brainboy · (10-09-2008, 08:42 AM)

So, I just watched the trailer. I have to say, I'm of course a little disappointed to hear "Fall 2009", but otherwise that trailer is phenomenal. When the music kicks in near the end... well let's just say no other developer can stir me in ways like that.

Also, do you think we're getting a bit of a hint at the interaction between the Superintendent and the ODST at the end? The signs light up to read "KEEP RIGHT" and "PROCEED WITH CAUTION", almost as if the SI is trying to assist the ODST.

Trasher · (10-09-2008, 08:55 AM)

Originally Posted by Brainboy:

Also, do you think we're getting a bit of a hint at the interaction between the Superintendent and the ODST at the end? The signs light up to read "KEEP RIGHT" and "PROCEED WITH CAUTION", almost as if the SI is trying to assist the ODST.

It would appear so. Could be a really cool way of getting info with the SI throwing hints out at you through billboards, advertisements on the walls, etc.

Nutter · (10-09-2008, 08:56 AM)

Originally Posted by godhandiscen:

Two years after release you would be expecting at least a pass of AA.

"There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING."

Get over it dude.

Domino Theory · (10-09-2008, 09:04 AM)

Originally Posted by Trasher:

It would appear so. Could be a really cool way of getting info with the SI throwing hints out at you through billboards, advertisements on the walls, etc.

Check PMs, fool.

Trasher · (10-09-2008, 09:08 AM)

Originally Posted by Domino Theory:

Check PMs, fool.

Sweet! Thank you, and thank you Laughtrey!

Kuroyume · (10-09-2008, 09:12 AM)

So why did Luke and Shiska go to Japan? Was their job to transport the DVD that had this trailer, or will there be some more info coming?

Domino Theory · (10-09-2008, 09:15 AM)

Originally Posted by Kuroyume:

So why did Luke and Shiska go to Japan? Was their job to transport the DVD that had this trailer, or will there be some more info coming?

It's actually Brian (Ske7ch) who went with Luke, not Shishka.

Luke and Brian have to go because they both deal with the Bungie Community/PR department. Representin'.

Shishka's the Zeus of Matchmaking.

Had ODST Recon been carrying a Shotgun and a Sniper, Shishka would've been there.

Trasher · (10-09-2008, 09:16 AM)

Originally Posted by Kuroyume:

So why did Luke and Shiska go to Japan? Was their job to transport the DVD that had this trailer, or will there be some more info coming?

Shishka stayed home to take care of the house while Luke and Brian went. I'm hoping we get some more info from them in Tokyo. Maybe in the weekly update?

Brainboy · (10-09-2008, 09:22 AM)

Originally Posted by Trasher:

It would appear so. Could be a really cool way of getting info with the SI throwing hints out at you through billboards, advertisements on the walls, etc.

Yeah. Perhaps at the beginning this is how the SI interacts with you, and then eventually you "meet" the SI and he (it?) becomes your companion AI for the rest of the game, similar to Cortana. I'm excited to see what Bungie does with the Superintendent, really. It's quite obvious that he's important to this game in some way.

Tieno · (10-09-2008, 09:27 AM)

is blue like the thematic Halo (3) color?

Trasher · (10-09-2008, 09:33 AM)

Originally Posted by Brainboy:

Yeah. Perhaps at the beginning this is how the SI interacts with you, and then eventually you "meet" the SI and he (it?) becomes your companion AI for the rest of the game, similar to Cortana. I'm excited to see what Bungie does with the Superintendent, really. It's quite obvious that he's important to this game in some way.

I'm guessing he isn't as sophisticated as a Cortana AI. His primary job is probably to watch over the city and keep tabs on what's going on. Turning lights on, alerting the people in the city of any danger, traffic lights, etc. Who really knows though, I'm just throwing out the idea. It could be really cool though if he will practically light your way and guide you through the city the way he did with the ODST at the end of the trailer. I wonder what sort of cool scenarios Bungie has come up with that involve him helping you and your squad during battles, or just helping you get around enemies in a stealthy fashion.

Voltron64 · (10-09-2008, 09:34 AM)

Why did Microsoft decide to delay the Halo 3: Recon announcement for TGS?? Seems pointless after all that drama during E3.

Botolf · (10-09-2008, 09:35 AM)

Expectations: Exceeded. Haha, expectations, you shan't screw me again!

Mood/Atmosphere: Do want. More "343 Guilty Spark" and less "Outskirts" plz.

SI as a guide: Do want. It adds character to the levels, and could be reminiscent of following 343 GS & Glados around.

Silenced SMGs: Do want. Looks cool 'n shiz.

MC Absence: Do want. The dude's cool and all, but I'm a little weary of the whole "I'm just renting your head and I can't really bond naturally with secondary characters because of it" thing.

Speculated cover system: DO NOT WANT! Continue on course like you always have with your organic forms of "cover" (scenery objects, etc), I don't really want some contrived cover system.

ODSTs: Do want. Snappy dressers and killer weaponry, etc.

Now I'll kick my expectations to the bottom again and be pleasantly surprised whenever the next media surfaces. Begun the dehype, has.

got2bekidding · (10-09-2008, 09:41 AM)

I wonder if SI talks verbally or just uses the environment in order to get his message across. It would be funny if the SI posted a gif on some billboard if you end up doing something stupid.

Brainboy · (10-09-2008, 09:45 AM)

Originally Posted by Trasher:

I'm guessing he isn't as sophisticated as a Cortana AI. His primary job is probably to watch over the city and keep tabs on what's going on. Turning lights on, alerting the people in the city of any danger, traffic lights, etc.

I agree. But I'm sure his surveillance functionality would be mighty useful in a more stealth-oriented game.

Quote:

Who really knows though, I'm just throwing out the idea. It could be really cool though if he will practically light your way and guide you through the city the way he did with the ODST at the end of the trailer. I wonder what sort of cool scenarios Bungie has come up with that involve him helping you and your squad during battles, or just helping you get around enemies in a stealthy fashion.

Indeed. I'm excited to see what they've come up with. I assume a lot of the battles are going to be a lot more close-quarters. Reminds me a little bit of the beginning of Outskirts in Halo 2, except darker and more focused on stealth.

Trasher · (10-09-2008, 09:49 AM)

Originally Posted by got2bekidding:

I wonder if SI talks verbally or just uses the environment in order to get his message across. It would be funny if the SI posted a gif on some billboard if you end up doing something stupid.

Yeah, I'm kind of liking the idea of having the SI be completely non-verbal. Who knows though, he may speak, but I think it would be much cooler if his only way of conversing with you is through texts or images.

got2bekidding · (10-09-2008, 09:53 AM)

While I was taking a shit, I thought of a follow up concerning my "gif theory". I kind of hope the SI has a humorous side. With it being what I must assume is a machine, will it have that type of AI or will it be just a hum-drum-run-of-the-mill type of robot. Maybe some unintentional humor could be expected on it's part. I don't know, I'm just really curious about how it's all going to play out.

Trasher · (10-09-2008, 09:59 AM)

Originally Posted by got2bekidding:

While I was taking a shit, I thought of a follow up concerning my "gif theory". I kind of hope the SI has a humorous side. With it being what I must assume is a machine, will it have that type of AI or will it be just a hum-drum-run-of-the-mill type of robot. Maybe some unintentional humor could be expected on it's part. I don't know, I'm just really curious about how it's all going to play out.

It would be very cool if he was humorous by accident or whatever. I definitely can see Bungie pulling it off. R2-D2 humor etc.

got2bekidding · 10:21 AM

Exactly! Please make it happen Bungie.

On a sad note, I really suck at this game now. It's such a piss off. Plus getting teabagged isn't helping.

edit: Oh nice, I upped my looking speed and can do better. Fuck I forgot about all that!

EazyB · (10-09-2008, 10:16 AM)

I'll be very sad if we don't see Sandbox until Fall 09

And OT: Just got a PS3. Beyond!

Brainboy · (10-09-2008, 10:21 AM)

Honestly, I can't see the maps getting released only as late as Fall 2009. I mean, they've shown off a near-complete Assembly, no? Also, why would the map achievements be in Halo 3 if the maps are going to be released with (the stand-alone game) Halo 3 Recon? It doesn't really make much sense.

got2bekidding · (10-09-2008, 10:22 AM)

Originally Posted by Brainboy:

Honestly, I can't see the maps getting released only as late as Fall 2009. I mean, they've shown off a near-complete Assembly, no? Also, why would the map achievements be in Halo 3 if the maps are going to be released with (the stand-alone game) Halo 3 Recon? It doesn't really make much sense.

What you say makes sense though. Seems to at least.

Botolf · (10-09-2008, 10:28 AM)

"Halo: Blue" showed up on store databases for release this year, correct? If so, it may not be out of the bounds of reason to suggest Blue is one map-pack coming out this year, with the other maps coming out around Fall 2009.

Sir Fragula · (10-09-2008, 10:30 AM)

Originally Posted by EazyB:

I'll be very sad if we don't see Sandbox until Fall 09

Hah, same sentiment here. Could really do with some new multiplayer maps to reinvigorate the old crowd.

Quote:

And OT: Just got a PS3. Beyond!

My older brother dropped off the unit he bought on launch but couldn't eBay. Sitting a bit sad in the corner though. Don't think it's been opened yet.

Sean · (10-09-2008, 10:31 AM)

Originally Posted by Brainboy:

Honestly, I can't see the maps getting released only as late as Fall 2009. I mean, they've shown off a near-complete Assembly, no? Also, why would the map achievements be in Halo 3 if the maps are going to be released with (the stand-alone game) Halo 3 Recon? It doesn't really make much sense.

That's true, but Assembly has already been held back for nearly a year. I remember it was originally supposed to be a Heroic map, then pulled and moved to Legendary, and then removed from (swapped out of) the Legendary map pack.

godhandiscen · (10-09-2008, 10:32 AM)

Originally Posted by Nutter:

"There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING."

Get over it dude.

Play a game with a decent resolution.

EazyB · (10-09-2008, 10:39 AM)

Originally Posted by Brainboy:

Honestly, I can't see the maps getting released only as late as Fall 2009. I mean, they've shown off a near-complete Assembly, no? Also, why would the map achievements be in Halo 3 if the maps are going to be released with (the stand-alone game) Halo 3 Recon? It doesn't really make much sense.

You make a good point, I'm definitely going to take the Fall 09 DLC date with a grain of salt until I hear about it from Bungie. Friday will work for me.

Originally Posted by Sean:

That's true, but Assembly has already been held back for nearly a year. I remember it was originally supposed to be a Heroic map, then pulled and moved to Legendary, and then removed from (swapped out of) the Legendary map pack.

Talking with Dan he said it was originally designed to be dome shaped but they went back and made it into a bowl. It's true they've been working on the map since Halo 3 launched but that particular map's delays don't seem to have anything to do with pushing it back for another SKU's release.

Originally Posted by Sir Fragula:

My older brother dropped off the unit he bought on launch but couldn't eBay. Sitting a bit sad in the corner though. Don't think it's been opened yet.

Got mine for free along with an extra controller (one's a sixaxis though) and MGS4. LBP was the only reason I planned to buy it but now that it's fallin into my lap, I'll use the extra money on some PS3 games.

Can't Fucking wait for LBP!!!

Trasher · (10-09-2008, 10:46 AM)

Originally Posted by EazyB:

Got mine for free along with an extra controller (one's a sixaxis though) and MGS4. LBP was the only reason I planned to buy it but now that it's fallin into my lap, I'll use the extra money on some PS3 games.

Can't Fucking wait for LBP!!!

That's the only way I'm getting a PS3: if it's free.

How, may I ask?

On topic though, I agree that there is no way Bungie can go that long without giving us some maps. It just wouldn't make any sense.

eznark · (10-09-2008, 10:47 AM)

Man I am glad I didn't stay awake for this. I was stoked about a DLC expansion pack for Halo 3, a new $60 game? No thanks.

Unless they do it like Crysis and make it $30, that would be nice.

Brainboy · (10-09-2008, 10:56 AM)

On a completely different note, I'm listening to the Halo 3 soundtrack right now (while doing a bit of work). I love it so much.

EazyB · (10-09-2008, 10:57 AM)

Originally Posted by Trasher:

That's the only way I'm getting a PS3: if it's free.

How, may I ask

Being a nice guy pays off.

Originally Posted by Trasher:

On topic though, I agree that there is no way Bungie can go that long without giving us some maps. It just wouldn't make any sense.

For sure, considering the last pack was released, what, 3 months ago; that would be one ridiculously long wait. With Gears 2 and COD5 coming out soon, Halo 3 will need all the new content it can get to stay strong (don't want to lose Squad Battle).

Frenck · (10-09-2008, 11:09 AM)

I thought it said Dust not ODST. I need glasses, stat!

Trasher · (10-09-2008, 11:47 AM)

Originally Posted by EazyB:

Being a nice guy pays off.

Dammit, Eazy. I thought we told you that giving out free handjobs isn't being a "nice guy."