RobbieNick
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(09-25-2007, 08:04 PM)

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#951

Got mine at E.B. Games this morning. The salesman knew of the problem, as was kind enough to go through several discs. Shaking each one till he found one that didn't shake loose. He then checked inside to make sure the disks were still not loose. I walked away with a mint copy. Very happy.

Expect retailers to be returning a lot of copies. This could really hurt MS.
Marty Chinn
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(09-25-2007, 08:15 PM)

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So part 2 of my story.

I went during lunch to exchange my copy. I don't know what was more mind boggling. The fact that just about every copy the guy picked up you could clearly hear the disc rattling around in the case, or the fact that he shook it hard to prove to me that they were all fucked and then dropped them back in the drawer. I probably had a look of horror on my face because I knew the way he was handling them was reducing my chances of finding any good set.

I pleaded with him to stop doing that because it's not helping finding a good set, and finally he was lightly moving them but you could still hear it. Eventually we found one that had minimal noise and opened it up. The game disc was good, but the extras disc was bad. Then I asked him to open another. Before he got to opening it, the lady associate said "I'm not going to have him open any more" to which I responded, "I don't want to leave with another busted set. You should complain to Microsoft about this stupid fiasco" She apparrently had heard about this from a couple other people earlier and new the situation and responded with "I've heard about it and we expect there to be a recall or something". Fortunately the guy had finally opened the second copy up and one disc was loose while the other was in place. Fortunately this time it was the extras disc that was in place and the game disc was loose. So I asked them to make one good complete set so I could be on my way. What was irritating was to see him juggle the discs around and I don't even know if I got the best of each of the discs. I think they look ok but I haven't done a closer inspection.

Ugh, what a nightmare. I don't want to boot this up at work in fear of not being able to put it down, but man what a cluster fuck this whole experience has been.
Zapperkhan
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(09-25-2007, 08:17 PM)

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#953

Just be careful with your sctached discs guys. Don't want any shattering ><
Marty Chinn
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(09-25-2007, 08:23 PM)

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#954

Originally Posted by Zapperkhan:
Just be careful with your sctached discs guys. Don't want any shattering ><
My eye! MY EYE!!!!
DoctorWho
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(09-25-2007, 08:23 PM)

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#955

Bought mine with a small scuff on it... nothing bad. My friend bought his and it was in perfect condition.
GitarooMan
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(09-25-2007, 08:30 PM)

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#956

Strange that the limited edition does not appear to be listed on the eb or gamestop website.
f3niks
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(09-25-2007, 08:32 PM)

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#957



:lol

Yeah I'm laughing now but when I get home and my copy looks like this, I'll be just as pissed.
Son of Godzilla
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(09-25-2007, 08:38 PM)
#958

I just wanted ya'll to know that I upgraded on the spot last night to Limited from normal and my discs weren't scratched at all and were on the spindles.
TTG
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(09-25-2007, 08:39 PM)

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#959

Just picked up my copy from Gamestop. Both cds were not secured in the spindle when I opened it(in front of them) but both were fine. There was a very slight trace of a ring around the inside, nothing worth complaining about. I've had games with much more scratches work just fine. Went home and tried both disks, worked fine. The guy there said they had 3 or 4 returns so far.

Just because you see your disk is not secured doesn't mean it's scratched. As all of us know, games can be without a package for years without getting scratched.... anyway HALO 3 LATER TODAY!!!
IzumiK
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(09-25-2007, 08:43 PM)

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#960

Originally Posted by f3niks:


:lol

Yeah I'm laughing now but when I get home and my copy looks like this, I'll be just as pissed.
:lol :lol :lol

Over 9,000 points!
Ding
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(09-25-2007, 08:43 PM)
#961

Just picked up my Limited Edition. Both discs were well secured and unscratched.
Baker
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(09-25-2007, 08:47 PM)
#962

Originally Posted by cleveridea:
microsoft, copy take two with the bioshock example, where they sent a free printed artbook. Send the customer something extra to make them feel better, even something stupid cheap like a poster. you cant expect people to be sending off their discs and waiting 2 weeks - especially people that went to a midnight launch event :lol

I bet retail sales will be more than $200 million on the launch day so you can afford it.
Or like Simpsons Season 6. A lot of people complained about the Homer-head packaging. All you had to do was call an 800 number and they sent you real dvd boxset packaging.
Lince
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(09-25-2007, 08:54 PM)

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edit:

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=84162

Eurogamer reporting free replacement for the US only ??
Last edited by Lince; 09-25-2007 at 09:25 PM.
Hooterville
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(09-25-2007, 08:58 PM)
#964

Originally Posted by Fixed2BeBroken:
Just got my CE copy of Halo3.

I got it at gamestop and Asked if it was alright to open it up in the store because of what I had heard. The clerk was really cool and said he would open it for me...then told me about the problems...saw both discs were scratched to hell, he then proactively replaced the game disc with a copy from the regular version which was cool. So I got a good copy of the game which is most important. Gamestop was really cool about it.

MS failed. this is really dumb. Also, the Tin case itself is really cheap and somewhat a peice of shit. The lid on my case won't even hold together now. wtf

Can you post a picture of the regular edition disc?

I believe that it is different them the Limited.
Plissken
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(09-25-2007, 08:58 PM)

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So I went out on lunch to grab my L.E., wary with all the problems I've been reading about. I open it up, see that both discs are intact, and think "Great! I'm one of the lucky ones!" I get back to work, pop out the disc to show a friend that they're not all fucked up, and guess what? My fucking game disc is scratched! Yes, despite not coming loose in shipping, somehow my game disc has quite a few nasty looking scratches on it, one right on the edge that really looks like it'll stop the game from working. Hopefully it will play, if not I will have to pray that my Gamestop will just swap me a regular edition disc.

Oh, and the tin case is a POS too. I took it out, slid it like 3 inches across the desk, and it's all scratched up now. Thanks for a quality L.E., Microsoft!
AgentOtaku
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(09-25-2007, 09:05 PM)

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I just said fuck it and bought a Regular edition....I'm just gonna send my CE right back to familyvideo as soon as I get it in the mail....

When I was picking it up from my local GS, I just casually asked about it and the lady indeed say they had "quite a few" that were loose in the tin


....this is catastrophic
Y2Kev
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(09-25-2007, 09:32 PM)

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#967

Microsoft's biggest problem this gen has just been cutting corners wherever they have the opportunity.

It's a shame and it's resulted in almost all of their QA problems, but...OMG HALO 3 !!!
knitoe
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(09-25-2007, 09:38 PM)

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Originally Posted by AgentOtaku:
I just said fuck it and bought a Regular edition....I'm just gonna send my CE right back to familyvideo as soon as I get it in the mail....

When I was picking it up from my local GS, I just casually asked about it and the lady indeed say they had "quite a few" that were loose in the tin


....this is catastrophic
I just got my LE from familyvideo through UPS. Did the tilting test, heard CD moving and my heart almost drop. Went ahead and open it. The extra disc is in perfect condition. The game disc had slight smudge, but I plays fine.
AgentOtaku
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(09-25-2007, 09:43 PM)

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Originally Posted by knitoe:
I just got my LE from familyvideo through UPS. Did the tilting test, heard CD moving and my heart almost drop. Went ahead and open it. The extra disc is in perfect condition. The game disc had slight smudge, but I plays fine.
thats cool....but I honestly don't even think the extras are worth it anymore
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Originally Posted by Y2Kev:
Microsoft's biggest problem this gen has just been cutting corners wherever they have the opportunity.

It's a shame and it's resulted in almost all of their QA problems, but...OMG HALO 3 !!!
yup, one could argue had they spent more time and $$$ on the 360 hardware QA before they sent them to the supply chains, Microsoft could've had 15-16+ million shipped worldwide by now rather than the 11-12 they have. They would have been able to reduce the price maybe twice by now and they wouldn't have had as many people scared at purchasing a 360 because of quality issues.

They could have also delayed the Asia launch and instead sent those units to the West and launched in Japan with a stronger launch line-up and more units once the supplies were replenished. Hindsight is 20/20, but MS is still in OK shape because of that early lead.
Dezcom
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(09-25-2007, 10:08 PM)

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#971

Got my LE a few hours ago and it was in perfect condition, the DVDs were still on the nubs without any scratches. I made sure to thank the gaming gods for sparing me this time...
Grecco
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(09-25-2007, 10:16 PM)

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Originally Posted by Y2Kev:
Microsoft's biggest problem this gen has just been cutting corners wherever they have the opportunity.

It's a shame and it's resulted in almost all of their QA problems, but...OMG HALO 3 !!!

It pisses me off really. Just use the same packaging they used for the Gears LE and were set. but they saved some money with the Medium class sku probably because the Upper class sku was so expensive.

Plus they added that nifty pontiac ad. I mean jesus spend some money Microsoft
Im gonna have to go return my tin tomorow and im pissed.

Originally Posted by AgentOtaku:
thats cool....but I honestly don't even think the extras are worth it anymore
The Calibrator is worth it alone. Plus stuff like skins/gamer pics. I just wish the tin was better made.
Phaethon0017
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(09-25-2007, 10:24 PM)

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My limited edition came today, everything is fine. It wasn't securely in the groove like the game disc was, in fact it was barely in the case. But there wasn't a scratch on it. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones. Worried me because when I got it I heard a ton of rattling.
BruceWayne
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(09-25-2007, 10:31 PM)
#974

Originally Posted by open_mouth_:
if Microsoft outsourced the packaging, I'm sure they were smart enough to get the insurance option on it so all those returns or exchanges should be funded by the packaging co. If anything, the lesson learned from this by MS, Sony and Nintendo as well as the 3rd party publishers will be worth it for us as gamers since it's unlikely something as trivial as this will be overlooked again.
Did they outsource to China?
dbish
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(09-25-2007, 10:46 PM)

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Bought the Limited Edition. I opened it on the way home from the store. It had a HUGE scratch. So I brought it back. The guy in front of me had the same issues, and was currently on his 4th looking for one that wasn't scratched.

So I decided to just upgrade to the Cat Helmet. But, yes, this is seriously large problem, wtf was Microsoft thinking?
DMczaf
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(09-25-2007, 11:01 PM)

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I went through about 6 Halo 3 LEs with a Target employee before we said fuck it and just put a non-scratched Game Disc with a non-scratched Essentials disc and called it a day :lol

Great job Microsoft!
Creamium
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(09-25-2007, 11:05 PM)

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I posted this in the official thread but it got lost as last post on the page and it might fit better here.

Just got back from midnight launch. Approx. 15 people in the store (Europe :lol ). My store was fully aware of the disk problem, even though I was the first one to buy a copy so that was good. The clerk was really cool about it. He said I could keep checking copies until I got one that was ok. My first one had a loose game disk which had minor scratches. Second one was ok, 2 disks in place, yay for me.

Still, this whole scratch thing is a fuck up totalement. 2 other guys were busy opening their CE's at the counter, plastic wraps everywhere.

Originally Posted by DMczaf:
I went through about 6 Halo 3 LEs with a Target employee before we said fuck it and just put a non-scratched Game Disc with a non-scratched Essentials disc and called it a day :lol

Great job Microsoft!
6? Jesus that's terrible.

Also I have to say that the crappy holding plastic makes the entire case look cheap. It's a limited edition that doesn't feel very limited at all.
Last edited by Creamium; 09-25-2007 at 11:08 PM.
Memphis Reigns
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(09-25-2007, 11:07 PM)

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#978

My LE disc was off the nub but it was pretty much in perfect condition. A tiny smudge was all. It plays perfectly.
Naka
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(09-25-2007, 11:08 PM)

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This whole ordeal really pisses me off. I went into gamestop last night and they were pretty much rushing through people. I shook the first box they gave me and asked for a second one. It shook too and the clerk told me all the ones he has touched shook and basically blew me off. Today I call back about an exchange and they tell me they are ou tof LE's but will swap the disk by itself for a regular edition. I guess thats not terrible, but being a collector it bothers me for some reason. I instead ask if I can just return it for a refund to which I am told no I can only exchange it for the exact same thing. Since they dont have it they would happily exchange it for a regular edition and return the difference. Gotta love gamestop's return policy logic. I might go to BB or Walmart and see if I can find any LEs that are shake free and just return my LE to gamestop for the regular... Then I will have an extra regular... we'll see. The whole situation is really bothersome.
sillymonkey321
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(09-25-2007, 11:10 PM)

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Got my LE today and like some people have already said, some small smudges but so far it plays fine.
itsme
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(09-25-2007, 11:14 PM)
#981

Since none of the gamestop in my area let me pick up LE without preorder, I went to Bestbuy to test my luck. The first couple that the clerk shook didn't rattle, and I just picked the second one that sounded more solid. Came home, and found out that the discs are in perfect shape, but the black tin can was pretty badly scratched. I guess, something's gotta give... The manual was a little folded too. I have never been impressed with the 360 related products' manufacturing quality; My Bioshock manual had some cuts, and a couple other games came with damaged cases.

I don't really care about the whole thing, but fact that we're talking about $400 hardware with name "pro" and "elite" attached makes me really wonder where the extra money that we are forced to pay are going to. I'm pretty sure that cheap LE tin case costs no more than a buck to manufacture.

BTW the nub at the center that's supposed to hold the disc is actually holding the disc pretty tight, and I had to yank the disc out... So, I don't get how the loose disc problem happened.
Hooterville
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(09-25-2007, 11:28 PM)
#982

My pictures from this thread just made it on Attack of the Show's The Feed.

Going Big !! LOL !!:lol
kassatsu
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(09-25-2007, 11:31 PM)

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Originally Posted by Hooterville:
My pictures from this thread just made it on Attack of the Show's The Feed.

Going Big !! LOL !!:lol
lol, did they mention gaf at all?
Hooterville
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(09-25-2007, 11:43 PM)
#984

Originally Posted by kassatsu:
lol, did they mention gaf at all?
Yea, at the bottom of the pictures they had courtesy of NeoGAF.

The same show is back on again at 11:00 PM Eastern.
Fixed2BeBroken
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(09-25-2007, 11:48 PM)

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#985

Originally Posted by Hooterville:
Can you post a picture of the regular edition disc?

I believe that it is different them the Limited.


is it different?
Spire
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(09-26-2007, 12:00 AM)

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#986

My disc is scratched but it works fine so far. I'm afraid of one of the later campaign levels bugging out or my 360 drive wearing out quicker since it'll have to work harder to read the disc. Maybe I'm just paranoid.

And does anyone know if the regular edition game disc is the same as the limited edition game disc? I imagine the disc art is different, but will me LE calibration stuff still work with a RE disc?
M3wThr33
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(09-26-2007, 12:00 AM)
#987

Oh man. Just got back from a Game Crazy. (Redmond Bella Botega)
Their regular versions... are MISSING discs. NO discs inside.
They had a stack of 5, and after people were coming in, they were checking them before they walked out the door. Another 11 turned up empty. Seriously sucky.
Grecco
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(09-26-2007, 12:04 AM)

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#988

Originally Posted by Fixed2BeBroken:
is it different?

yes.
Fixed2BeBroken
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(09-26-2007, 12:20 AM)

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#989

Originally Posted by Grecco:
yes.
gaaaay
DM_Uselink
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(09-26-2007, 12:23 AM)

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#990

I got mine through the video store I work at. Not only were both discs scratched (cleaned em on the resurface machine), but the freaking tin was dented!

The dents are probably UPS'sss fault tough. I didn't get too pissed since I did get a ten dollar discount on the thing (came out to sixty dollars).

Who are the ad wizards that came up with that!?

edit: I was close to switching it with a regular edition one...but eh.. the machine cleaned it pretty good.
Hooterville
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(09-26-2007, 12:27 AM)
#991

Originally Posted by Fixed2BeBroken:


is it different?
Yes, It is.
Lince
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(09-26-2007, 12:33 AM)

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Originally Posted by DM_Uselink:
cleaned em on the resurface machine
yes that's first thing I'm doing tomorrow after work, these resurface machines work wonders and the whole thing it's faster and cheaper than sending the damn crap to M$
IzumiK
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(09-26-2007, 12:43 AM)

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#993

I dare someone to send back their halo 3 disc to MS in pieces and tell them it was like that when you opened it.

:lol
Firestorm
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(09-26-2007, 12:49 AM)

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#994

Mine had a few scratches but they didn't look like they'd make a huge difference so I took 'em.
Leo the 3rd
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(09-26-2007, 12:55 AM)
#995

I along with several others had LE with game disc loose and scratched. The local Gamestop was aware of the issue and gladly swapped out the bad discs with regular edition game discs.
It's the last LE I'll purchase for a Xbox console.
Proc
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(09-26-2007, 01:12 AM)

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I went to my EBGames this afternoon to pick up my reserved LE and promptly asked him if I could open it up and return it on the spot. He told me the clerks already opened and looked through all the boxes and put together the "not so bad ones that haven't been scuffed up too much." What a sales pitch...I promptly downgraded my order to the regular edition.
drohne
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(09-26-2007, 01:22 AM)
#997

my ce showed up from gamestop.com -- discs are rattling around audibly. i can't get through to the gamestop.com support line, and i've had problems getting refunds from those assholes in the past, so i figure i'll return it at the local store. i call them up and they say i'm good. but when i get down there the manager has left, the two remaining employees don't know how to handle it, and they take nearly half an hour to reach this conclusion. half an hour i could've spent ACTUALLY PLAYING HALO. i have to go back in tomorrow. thank fuck i picked up the regular edition last night, or i'd be really irritated right now. i'm kind of irritated as is.

bonus: one of the gamestop clerks said she 'didn't know how to put it back in inventory,' and when i asked if they just planned to sell it to some other sap, she said they did -- 'most of them work anyway.' guess who's going to be first against the wall when the revolution comes
vexvegaz
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(09-26-2007, 01:25 AM)

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hey Hooterville,

thanks for the heads up!!

good thing i read this post b4 i left to go pick up my LE halo 3. after picking it up at gamestop and even b4 i walked out of the front door i decided to open it up right infront of them to make sure all my disks were good to go but sure nuff, the escential disk was scratched to hell and was not on the spindle. but no problem exchanging it and gave me a new one that was fine n pristine.

thanks again.
snacknuts
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(09-26-2007, 01:26 AM)

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Mine had very minor scratching, but the game freezes at the very first checkpoint for me every time. I haven't even seen a bad guy yet. :'(
EMBee99
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(09-26-2007, 02:01 AM)

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This LE scratching is headline news on WGN in Chicago...after Rex Grossman's demotion, of course. :lol