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chris0701 · 01:22 PM

http://www.sony.co.jp/SonyInfo/IR/fi...07q2_eleki.pdf

Same as today's official Nintendo financial report,until 2007/09/30 PS3 WW sales is 5.59m

For SCE,Sony Computer Entertainment

营业额：2434亿日元
利润： 967亿日元损失

Profit : - 96.7 billion Yen (loss)

bishoptl · (10-25-2007, 07:13 AM)

This has the potential to be epic - but I'm going to bed. Try not to kill each other before dawn, mmkay?

titiklabingapat · 07:19 AM

old pic, I think.

Eteric Rice · (10-25-2007, 07:14 AM)

Ohhh snap!

Tideas · (10-25-2007, 07:15 AM)

so top is HW and bottom is SW?

szaromir · (10-25-2007, 07:15 AM)

Can someone post it in understandable way?:D
Thank you.

Now let's wait for Microsoft to reveal their Q1 numbers. Should be impressive.

Evlar · (10-25-2007, 07:16 AM)

Wow. Uh. Assuming that means what I think it means...

Well. That's not good.

Sho_Nuff82 · (10-25-2007, 07:16 AM)

Translation?

nofi · (10-25-2007, 07:17 AM)

They're in billions, right?

Lightning · (10-25-2007, 07:18 AM)

Hmm.... that is not so good... but we kinda knew this.

Evlar · (10-25-2007, 07:18 AM)

As pointed out by JJSloan over in the other thread: This is from July. Lock it down, please.

YYZ · (10-25-2007, 07:18 AM)

I'm confused, someone clarify please (serious).

DCharlie · (10-25-2007, 07:18 AM)

4.21 million shipped/sold whatever to end of Q1.

Expect 11 million units total sell/ship for financial year 07 ...

tehbear · (10-25-2007, 07:18 AM)

2006 Q3 1660000
2006 Q4 1910000
2007 Q1 710000
2007 Q2 1310000

total 5.59 million

dirtmonkey37 · (10-25-2007, 07:19 AM)

Wow, 5.59 million...

Well... that's good....I guess....

Grampa Simpson · (10-25-2007, 07:19 AM)

nm

chris0701 · (10-25-2007, 07:19 AM)

Originally Posted by The Sphinx:

As pointed out by JJSloan over in the other thread: This is from July. Lock it down, please.

Sorry,I posted the proper pic. See OP.

J. M. Romeo · (10-25-2007, 07:19 AM)

Wow. Sony is having a hard time with the PS3. I wish I could be a fly on the wall on all those high executive conversations.

Evlar · 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by chris0701:

Sorry,I posted the proper pic. See OP.

OK.

EDIT: The PDF link is still wrong?

EDIT EDIT: Here's the correct PDF for this quarter: http://www.sony.co.jp/SonyInfo/IR/fi...07q2_eleki.pdf

Wario64 · (10-25-2007, 07:21 AM)

It's sold almost as half as the Wii, I think that's pretty good

The Faceless Master · (10-25-2007, 07:22 AM)

the sw tie ratio is pretty good...

JoshuaJSlone · (10-25-2007, 07:23 AM)

Do they ever list a PS2/PSP hardware total? Since they made the switch to listing "Shipped to retail" numbers I've only seen them give quarterly. Without a base to work from it's impossible to add them up to reach a total.

I AM JOHN! · (10-25-2007, 07:23 AM)

Am I the only one that thinks this is a good number?

Tideas · (10-25-2007, 07:23 AM)

is it really surprising what a $600 console can sell?

Wollan · 07:35 AM

Seems like it's sold to retailers.

DCharlie · (10-25-2007, 07:24 AM)

1,310,000 in Q2? Sold / Shipped?

July Aug Sep - were all 180k or so in US per month , maybe 150k here a month, so around 200k or so a month in Europe?

Consistant sales at least across the regions which is a good sign i`d have thought - especially if the price is the real barrier.

karasu · (10-25-2007, 07:24 AM)

It costs twice as much;it sells half as much?

Zzoram · (10-25-2007, 07:24 AM)

Originally Posted by The Faceless Master:

the sw tie ratio is pretty good...

4ish, less than Wii but pretty good

Gahiggidy · (10-25-2007, 07:25 AM)

Originally Posted by Wario64:

It's already been lapped once by the Wii, I think that's pretty good.

FIFY.

neptunes · (10-25-2007, 07:25 AM)

no shipped or sold posts yet? :(

titiklabingapat · 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by DCharlie:

1,310,000 in Q2? Sold / Shipped?

July Aug Sep - were all 180k or so in US per month , maybe 150k here a month, so around 200k or so a month in Europe?

Consistant sales at least across the regions which is a good sign i`d have thought - especially if the price is the real barrier.

Way less than that per month in the USA and Japan.

edit: actual sold to consumers

chris0701 · (10-25-2007, 07:27 AM)

For SCE,Sony Computer Entertainment

营业额：2434亿日元
利润： 967亿日元损失

Profit : - 96.7 billion Yen (lose)

Hunahan · (10-25-2007, 07:28 AM)

Not sure why you guys are measuring this against NPD, those are two entirely different figures.

This will represent what Sony sold to retailers, NPD (and MC, etc, etc) measures what retail sells to consumers.

They aren't talking the same language.....

The Abominable Snowman · (10-25-2007, 07:29 AM)

PSP did pretty damn well. Sold almost as much as the wii. Sony should cut losses and focus primarily on the PSP side of things.

Link · (10-25-2007, 07:29 AM)

Originally Posted by Tideas:

is it really surprising what a $600 console can sell?

And yet, Sony still thought so.

Gahiggidy · (10-25-2007, 07:29 AM)

english version, guys...

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/fina.../07q2_sony.pdf

titiklabingapat · (10-25-2007, 07:30 AM)

Originally Posted by The Abominable Snowman:

PSP did pretty damn well. Sold almost as much as the wii. Sony should cut losses and focus primarily on the PSP side of things.

That would be a disaster. A PS3 with a 20M userbase will still sell way more software than the PSP at it's current state.

Sony almost shipped the same amount of software for both the PSP and PS3 but the PSP hardware sold twice as much as the PS3 hardware.

Originally Posted by Xekrn:

Sounds like shipped number to me.

Over 1.3m PS3 sold during July/Augest/September worldwide is totally bullshit.

Sold to retailers, iirc.

Gahiggidy · (10-25-2007, 07:30 AM)

Originally Posted by The Abominable Snowman:

PSP did pretty damn well. Sold almost as much as the wii. Sony should cut losses and focus primarily on the PSP side of things.

^^^
Wow, does that ever sound familiar.

Xekrn · (10-25-2007, 07:31 AM)

Sounds like shipped number to me.

Over 1.3m PS3 sold during July/Augest/September worldwide is totally bullshit.

Tideas · (10-25-2007, 07:33 AM)

Originally Posted by The Abominable Snowman:

PSP did pretty damn well. Sold almost as much as the wii. Sony should cut losses and focus primarily on the PSP side of things.

joke post?

Gahiggidy · (10-25-2007, 07:33 AM)

Of course its shipped, no company can report stuff form the likes of the NPD in a financial report. Remember, for accounting purposes, Sony/Nintendo/Microsoft's actual customers are the retailers... not us.

Shpeshal Ed · (10-25-2007, 07:34 AM)

sony shipped = sony manufactured
sony sold = sony sold to retailers

szaromir · (10-25-2007, 07:35 AM)

So essentially Sony lost $841M to ship 2M PS3? That's huge.

rakka · (10-25-2007, 07:36 AM)

they're great numbers, why are people trying to say they aren't good?

Evlar · (10-25-2007, 07:37 AM)

Originally Posted by Shpeshal Ed:

sony shipped = sony manufactured
sony sold = sony sold to retailers

Not any more, Sony has adjusted their financial reports to show sales as shipped-to-retail, similar to Nintendo and MS. They switched over earlier this year.

Shpeshal Ed · (10-25-2007, 07:38 AM)

Originally Posted by The Sphinx:

Not any more, Sony has adjusted their quarterly reports to reflect shipped-to-retail, similar to Nintendo and MS. They switched over earlier this year.

oh, ok. cool.

thanks for the correction.

DopeyFish · (10-25-2007, 07:38 AM)

Originally Posted by The Sphinx:

Not any more, Sony has adjusted their quarterly reports to reflect shipped-to-retail, similar to Nintendo and MS. They switched over earlier this year.

you just disagreed and reagreed with him in the same sentence... wtf.

santouras · (10-25-2007, 07:39 AM)

Originally Posted by rakka:

they're great numbers, why are people trying to say they aren't good?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=202519

quetz67 · (10-25-2007, 07:40 AM)

I thought Sony already shipped 5.5M in march. So they changed the counting and this shows how these 5.5M went from manufactured to shipped to retailers?!?

JoshuaJSlone · (10-25-2007, 07:40 AM)

Originally Posted by The Sphinx:

Not any more, Sony has adjusted their quarterly reports to reflect shipped-to-retail, similar to Nintendo and MS. They switched over earlier this year.

Well, he's still sorta right in how they word it. On their website, the old (manufactured) way is referred to as "Cumulative Production Shipments of Hardware", and the new way (shipped) is referred to as "Unit Sales of Hardware".

Unrelatedly, I wish I could use this as some sort of joking response, but as the context hasn't come up and I want to sleep, I'll just toss this out there: bonus troll.

Originally Posted by quetz67:

I thought Sony already shipped 5.5M in march. So they changed the counting and this shows how these 5.5M went from manufactured to shipped to retailers?!?

Pretty much. Old way versus new way