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Mamesj
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(11-18-2007, 01:50 AM)
 
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Ninja Gaiden Dragon Sword demo impressions #1


A rare shot of Ryu without his mask, and the new girl


Since I'm all but useless today after a night without sleep (chalk it up to my usual
semesterly bout of insomnia), I decided to hit up my local EB and see if the new DS demos
were out. Sure enough, they were, and Ninja Gaiden DS is one of them. I didn't check out
what else was there--see, when something new regarding Ninja Gaiden
comes out, I get tunnel vision and shut out the rest of the world. In any case, check your
local Nintendo Wi-fi hotspot place, they may have it.

Long story short, I've played it a bunch of times today and I'm extremely happy with what
I've experienced. Just a little background for those who may not have seen anything about
it yet-- it's a full 3D Ninja Gaiden game, played entirely with the stylus (besides blocking,
which is done with any button on the DS), and with the DS held book style.





The second of the two areas in the demo



Now, this demo is tiny, maybe not even 5 minutes long, but a lot is accomplished in that
time. Some quick house cleaning: the graphics are excellent and surprisingly detailed for
the DS. the game plays fast and the frame rate is perfect. the sound and music are
practically cut and pasted from the other games in the series. the production of
the sound is particularly good. I played with my Sennheiser HD-555s and besides being
quieter, it sounds like any other 3D Ninja Gaiden game. Clangs, ryu's grunts and yells,
enemy grunts, slashes, kicks, and all.

The million dollar question-- how are the controls? Like most people who have read about
the all stylus control, my initial reaction was to cringe, but I eventually put my faith in
Itagaki, and rightfully so-- the controls are damn near perfect. Zelda certainly proved it
could be done, but Ninja Gaiden's input is more varied, due to Ryu having a much fuller
move set than Link. In fact, all of Ryu's basic dragon sword move set is here, which fans
of NG will notice. The game doesn't tell you how to do much more than block, jump, slash,
and Izuna drop, but within minutes, all the extra moves came to me as if I already knew
how to do them: rolling is done by holding block and tapping where you want to go, the
flying swallow is done by jumping then swiftly crossing the stylus over the enemy you want
to hit, that 2 hit lunge that's normally done by running towards an enemy, hitting X, then
pulling back + X again for another hit is done by drawing a long line over the enemy, then
immediately pulling back. Basically, it's all very intuitive.


I was surprised by how many moves were in there and I suspect they didn't explain how to
do them so that the player could discover them on his/her own. They're not a secret
though-- anyone who gives the demo more than one go will find new moves. Only thing I
couldn't figure out was how to wall run, but I suspect it's not in this game. The
responsiveness of the game to the input is amazing as well-- in fact, it's almost too good.
Instead of wrestling with the game to get it to do what you want, you'll need to control your
taps so you don't have Ryu attacking and running all over the screen. It's loose, but
precise if you get control over it, just the like the console games.



A random stage not found in the demo

The only downside to the demo, besides being very short, is that the enemies are
incredibly easy and Ryu has a ton of energy, so you're never in danger. There's a boss
fight at the end, but the thing goes down with no effort. To it's credit, it does have three
different "modes" of attack. Still, it's a laughable mini-boss at best. I fully expect this game
to be easier to appeal to teens and kids, but I do hope it's not this easy on release (or at
least have a hard mode of some sort.) The enemies showed signs of intelligence here or
there, but in general, the demo plays like a proof of concept for the control style. Which is
fine by me. I wasn't expecting the full experience in the demo, and I'm in on day one even
if the game is a tin foil-wrapped turd with the words "Ninja Gaiden DS" written with a
sharpie marker on the front of it. Okay, maybe not that far.


those are my impressions. I think it'll be a legit entry to the series, not just a portable
afterthought like most console to handheld translations of popular games. To sum it up:
I'm floored by how little is lost in the process--it still felt like Ninja Gaiden, albeit easy as
hell. Like a lot of delayed Team Ninja games, it'll be worth the wait.


post script: oh yeah, there's ninpo. You trace the sanskrit letter, which is really easy, and
it kills every thing in sight. It's a big fireball you can move around with your stylus.


current release date: 2/4/08





This is the guy who is the head of the team that makes this game.
They're called Team Ninja. He's so controversial that a bunch of posters will come into this
thread with the purpose of saying they hate him. He's like the Cool Hand Luke of
Japan.
_dementia
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(11-18-2007, 01:52 AM)
 
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#2

I can't wait for this.

Best game on the Xbox
Best game on the PS3
Best game on the DS?
Psychotext
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(11-18-2007, 01:53 AM)
 
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#3

Ryu is somewhat prettier than I imagined...
_dementia
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(11-18-2007, 01:53 AM)
 
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Originally Posted by Psychotext:
Ryu is somewhat prettier than I imagined...
Play DOA, he's totally bish
Mamesj
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(11-18-2007, 01:54 AM)
 
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#5

Originally Posted by _dementia:
I can't wait for this.

Best game on the Xbox
Best game on the PS3
Best game on the DS?


Could be, could be.
RBH
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(11-18-2007, 01:56 AM)
 
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Really looking forward to this. Will be my first foray into the Ninja Gaiden series. :)
Vic
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(11-18-2007, 01:58 AM)
 
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Hmm, Donkey show had the same opinion about the controls. I'm definitely interested in trying this game now.
·feist·
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(11-18-2007, 02:02 AM)
 
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Originally Posted by _dementia:
I can't wait for this.

Best game on the Xbox
Best game on the PS3
Best game on the DS?
You should put a flame suit on.
donkey show
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(11-18-2007, 02:22 AM)
 
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#9

Originally Posted by Vic:
Hmm, Donkey show had the same opinion about the controls. I'm definitely interested in trying this game now.

Yup. This game is that good. Here's my impressions from E4All that he's talking about.

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I must say I was damn impressed at how smooth it was. It was all in japanese and it looked like it took place in Hayabusa Village. It was cool just slashing at a particular enemy on a position of the screen and Ryu rushing toward the opponent and doing his thing. It seems all of his moves are intact, although I couldn't figure out how to do an Izuna drop. Constantly tap at a section of the screen and Ryu will throw his shurikens. It seems like you auto-block if you don't do anything as well. The control scheme is exactly how Itagaki mentioned it would be, simple yet fast. No blood a gushing or heads a decapitating from what I played, but I don't care. This game is full-on Ninja Gaiden.

This will find a place in my DS library when it gets released. You win my heart once again Team Ninja.

Lucky that you got to demo it in English. Looks like I'll be stopping by gamestop sometime soon for some NG action.
Buttonbasher
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(11-18-2007, 02:23 AM)
 
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#10

I enjoyed the demo
slade
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(11-18-2007, 02:26 AM)
 
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Originally Posted by _dementia:
I can't wait for this.

Best game on the Xbox
Best game on the PS3
Best game on the DS?

Genji 2 was better.

P.S. If somebody could get me a Genji Defence force avatar, I'd appreciate it.
ratcliffja
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(11-18-2007, 02:37 AM)
 
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Yeah this looks very solid. I haven't yet played any of the 3D Ninja Gaiden titles, but I've always wanted to. Sadly, I've never owned a system that the games were released on until now.
DECK'ARD
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(11-18-2007, 05:01 AM)
 
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#13

I support the return of impressions threads!
gray_fox224
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(11-18-2007, 05:02 AM)
 
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#14

can't wait.
Mamesj
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(11-18-2007, 05:07 AM)
 
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#15

thanks. impressions are fun- none of the pressures of writing a review ftw

forgive any weird sentence structures or grammar problems-- I've been up since 3AM...blech.
claviertekky
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(11-18-2007, 05:10 AM)
 
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Only Gripe: The demo doesn't teach you how to charge up though.

Otherwise, it's a really fun portable game on the go.

Gets my thumbs up.
Jcgamer60
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(11-18-2007, 05:15 AM)
 
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I had no idea this game was delayed.

What about the Japanese release date?
Mamesj
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(11-18-2007, 05:17 AM)
 
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Originally Posted by HaloFans:
Only Gripe: The demo doesn't teach you how to charge up though.

Otherwise, it's a really fun portable game on the go.

Gets my thumbs up.


you can charge up a UT in it?
Frester
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(11-18-2007, 05:40 AM)
 
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Kinda odd that they used Sanskrit for the ninpo, no?
Hunter D
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(11-18-2007, 05:47 AM)
 
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#20

Originally Posted by Psychotext:
Ryu is somewhat prettier than I imagined...
Try picking dudes in DOA every once in a while. All the men in that game (beisides the old guy) have a feminine look to them.
Mamesj
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(11-18-2007, 06:00 AM)
 
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Originally Posted by Hunter D:
Try picking dudes in DOA every once in a while. All the men in that game (beisides the old guy) have a feminine look to them.


even bass, jann lee, leon, bayman, tengu, zack, and brad wong? ;)
Hunter D
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(11-18-2007, 06:06 AM)
 
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Originally Posted by Mamesj:
even bass, jann lee, leon, bayman, tengu, zack, and brad wong? ;)
Ok bass, tengu, and zack also don't look fem. The rest of them do though.
a Master Ninja
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(11-18-2007, 06:42 AM)
 
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Very nice preview.

Originally Posted by Frester:
Kinda odd that they used Sanskrit for the ninpo, no?
An example of this is that the characters that are traced to perform ninpo magic, were originally kanji; this was changed to the more "culture-neutral" Sanskrit to make things more fair for non-Japanese audiences.
XHitoshuraX
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(11-18-2007, 06:43 AM)
 
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Originally Posted by _dementia:
Best game on the PS3

/slap
Frester
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(11-18-2007, 06:57 AM)
 
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'Cause I'm sure a lot more people can read Sanskrit characters than kanji

In all seriousness I understand what they're trying to do, but it seems like kind of a moot point :-\
the-iek
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(11-18-2007, 08:50 AM)
 
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Quote:
I didn't check out
what else was there--see, when something new regarding Ninja Gaiden
ninja gaiden, cooking mama 2, picross, contra and phantom hourglass.
radeonxt
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(11-18-2007, 09:30 AM)
 
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#27

the DEMO of the Demo was cool but extremely short
Dave1988
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(11-18-2007, 10:09 AM)
 
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Originally Posted by _dementia:
I can't wait for this.

Best game on the Xbox
Best game on the PS3
Best game on the DS?


Hahahaha....no.
Nuclear Muffin
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(11-18-2007, 10:37 AM)
 
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I hope they put the demo on the EBN Channel to download, the UK`s DS Download Stations suck!
Thunder Monkey
(11-18-2007, 10:48 AM)
 
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Pre-rendered backgrounds... does so much for crappy 3D systems.
Mamesj
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(11-18-2007, 03:07 PM)
 
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Originally Posted by Hunter D:
Ok bass, tengu, and zack also don't look fem. The rest of them do though.

hmmm...standards of femininity must have skewed towards the butch overnight:

*removed pics for the sake of the thread* just go google the other names and let me know if you think bayman, leon, and brad wong are fem.


ANYWAY-- figured out how to do UTs last night as well-- you have to "scratch" ryu and keep scratching to charge it. then it automatically kills everything on the screen


Originally Posted by Thunder Monkey:
Pre-rendered backgrounds... does so much for crappy 3D systems.



yep, they look really nice and clean.

Last edited by Mamesj : 11-18-2007 at 03:10 PM.
Mamesj
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(11-19-2007, 01:19 AM)
 
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final bump before the graveyard, in case anyone else would like impressions of it.
beat
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(11-19-2007, 04:39 AM)
 
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#33

Awesome. Thanks for the heads-up, I went to GS today to download the demo too. And thanks for mentioning how UTs are charged.

Quote:
current release date: 2/4/08
I thought so too, but the demo ends by saying Winter 2007. Blerg.
jj984jj
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(11-19-2007, 04:41 AM)
 
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It was suppose to come out this month.

But that's okay, hopefully Itagaki is working on balancing the whole game out well so it's not too easy or too cheap.
Barakov
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(11-19-2007, 04:42 AM)
 
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Originally Posted by beat:
Awesome. Thanks for the heads-up, I went to GS today to download the demo too. And thanks for mentioning how UTs are charged.


I thought so too, but the demo ends by saying Winter 2007. Blerg.

It's probably the same demo that's been shown at various shows.
BudokaiMR2
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(11-19-2007, 04:45 AM)
 
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Wait...there is no wall run or is that just a mistake?

I mean it's ninja gaiden.... that would be disappointing if true.
666
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(11-19-2007, 04:55 AM)
 
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Oh, I didn't see this thread before... Great, short demo. Shows the game mechanic works well, moves are well defined from each other, throwing of ninja stars is great and special moves work. Solid game, looks pretty good too. Looking forward to the full game!
Johnkers
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(11-19-2007, 05:00 AM)
 
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The demo is possibly my DS game of the year. The controls are excellent, my love for pre-rendered backgrounds let the game hold up graphically much better, no complaints about the demo.

Except the release date LIE! =(
Mamesj
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(11-19-2007, 05:18 AM)
 
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Originally Posted by BudokaiMR2:
Wait...there is no wall run or is that just a mistake?

I mean it's ninja gaiden.... that would be disappointing if true.


there probably isn't much platforming in this one, so there wouldn't be a need for it.

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Except the release date LIE! =(

yep. almost as bad as MGS 4's "Coming 2008!!! 2007!"
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