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duckroll
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(12-26-2007, 11:28 AM)
 
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Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus (PS2) - US & Wii GGXX fans screwed in shock twist #1

http://item.rakuten.co.jp/edigi-game/jan-4510772080026/




Title: Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus
Release date: 27th March 2008
Genre: Fighting
Platform: PS2
Price: 6090yen (2079yen for Append version)

Previously thought to be just the US version of the game with all the bugfixes, Accent Core Plus is turning out to be something else entirely.

- Completely brand new fully voiced Story Mode.

- This time the Story Mode takes place after the events of the PS2 GGXX story mode.

- The 25 characters' stories will cover the major events involving the "mystery of Gears", "that man" and conflict with the Post War Administration Bureau, etc.

- The Story Mode has a full branching path Zapping system, with a total of 350 scenarios in all, once again all fully voice, representing the biggest story mode in Guilty Gear home edition history ever.

- 2 old characters brought back in GGXXAC glory: Justice and Cliff, both are also available as part of the story mode.

- Contains all the bug fixes, rebalances, and tune ups that the original version had issues with.

- New modes like Mission Mode where your character levels up from completing missions, a full survival mode, as well as a new Gallery mode where you unlock all the awesome new illustratons.


Once again, if you already have the original JP release of GGXXAC, you can buy the Append disc version for only 2079yen, which is less than 20 USD. Otherwise the full retail version is 6090yen. As far as announced, there is no Wii version and probably no plans for another US release.
_dementia
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(12-26-2007, 11:33 AM)
 
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Two more and they outdo SFII
Yasser
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(12-26-2007, 11:35 AM)
 
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c'mon sammy europe, make me proud!
duckroll
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(12-26-2007, 11:38 AM)
 
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For those that don't know what the HUGE deal about this is: This is actually the first official continuation of the Guilty Gear storyline in seven years. It might also very well be the ultimate finale to the series as far as story goes.
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(12-26-2007, 11:39 AM)
#5

If this shit doesn't come stateside heads will roll.
Danne-Danger
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(12-26-2007, 11:43 AM)
 
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PAL... just this once... please...
Prime crotch
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(12-26-2007, 11:45 AM)
 
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We didn't get Accent Core in PAL land so I bet this one will come out! It has to.
IPGlider
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(12-26-2007, 11:57 AM)
#8

Europe need this. I will buy it the first day.

Ignition, 505 Games, do you hear me?
Lee N
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(12-26-2007, 12:08 PM)
 
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#9

Originally Posted by duckroll:
Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus (PS2) - US & Wii GGXX fans screwed in shock twist
Really, fighting games get new versions every 6 months? This is new.
duckroll
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(12-26-2007, 12:10 PM)
 
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#10

Originally Posted by Lee N:
Really, fighting games get new versions every 6 months? This is new.

This is actually a pretty unique case, if you bothered to understand it. :P
Lee N
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(12-26-2007, 12:13 PM)
 
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Originally Posted by duckroll:
This is actually a pretty unique case, if you bothered to understand it. :P
I don't see how.. people who bought Accent Core (myself included) knew full well that the game most likely will get a new version in the near future - and here it is. Surprise!
duckroll
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(12-26-2007, 12:19 PM)
 
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Originally Posted by Lee N:
I don't see how.. people who bought Accent Core (myself included) knew full well that the game most likely will get a new version in the near future - and here it is. Surprise!

Let's see:

- If you bought the Japanese version, you bought a totally bugged version of the game at full price with NO exchange or return policy because Arc couldn't afford to recall it.

- If you bought the US version, you're likely not going to see this in the US? I don't see why anyone would translate and dub 350 scenarios only to be forced by Sony to release the game at budget price because it's a re-release of the same game.

- If you bought either Wii version, well, you're totally missing out on this one!

How is this buttraping exercise like a regular fighting game? :)
Dascu
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(12-26-2007, 12:21 PM)
#13

I guess there's no way this upgrade could get distributed through WiiWare?
Lee N
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(12-26-2007, 12:27 PM)
 
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Originally Posted by duckroll:
- If you bought either Wii version, well, you're totally missing out on this one!
I bought the Wii version, but I don't see how that'll stop me from buying AC+ on the PS2.

I agree that releasing a buggy game and then not recalling it sucks, but that doesn't change the fact that people who bought AC knew (or should've known) that the game might get updated before long.

The same holds true for AC+, I would be very surprised if this is the last version.
Infernal Monkey
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(12-26-2007, 12:32 PM)
 
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Originally Posted by Prime crotch:
We didn't get Accent Core in PAL land so I bet this one will come out! It has to.

Oh Accent Core's getting a PAL release.. in February. :(

duckroll
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(12-26-2007, 12:40 PM)
 
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Originally Posted by Lee N:
I bought the Wii version, but I don't see how that'll stop me from buying AC+ on the PS2.

I agree that releasing a buggy game and then not recalling it sucks, but that doesn't change the fact that people who bought AC knew (or should've known) that the game might get updated before long.

The same holds true for AC+, I would be very surprised if this is the last version.

Wait, hold up.

This is NOT a new version of GGXX. This is just GGXXAC. Except with 2 new characters, new modes and the story mode conclusion that home fans have been asking for since GGXX. It's not a port of a new arcade rebalance, or anything like that. The ONLY reason why this is being released in Japan is because they fucked up the initial GGXXAC PS2 release with bugs.

I don't see why anyone, a GG fan or otherwise, would or should know that AC will be re-released before long. :P

In case you were wondering, its not GGXX -> GGXX#reload -> GGXX/ -> GGXXAC -> GGXXAC+. GGXXAC+ doesn't exist in arcades. If it did, this would be no big deal and everyone would expect it.
UnholySpectacle
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(12-26-2007, 12:46 PM)
 
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How does the append disc work?
Lee N
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(12-26-2007, 12:48 PM)
 
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Originally Posted by duckroll:
Wait, hold up.
But take a look at Guilty Gear X.. it got both 1.5 and Plus reissues.
Baby Milo
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(12-26-2007, 12:53 PM)
 
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Originally Posted by duckroll:
It might also very well be the ultimate finale to the series as far as story goes.


ehhhh i dont care
duckroll
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(12-26-2007, 12:56 PM)
 
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#20

Originally Posted by Lee N:
But take a look at Guilty Gear X.. it got both 1.5 and Plus reissues.

Yes, that's true.
BlackTyrano
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(12-26-2007, 02:14 PM)
#21

From a japanese GGXX wiki http://wiki.livedoor.jp/ggxx_matome/d/FrontPage

「AC Plus」が海外向けに発表されました。速報程度なのですが、既に攻略や情報まとめを作る予定です。

someone on dustloop translated it as "it's been announced that AC Plus is targeted to overseas market"

I'd like to see what happens in the new story...but on the other hand Guilty Gear XX's story mode already made almost no sense.
PepsimanVsJoe
(12-26-2007, 02:26 PM)
 
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I'd be partial to a 360 release myself.
Mainly because it's the only console I still own an arcade stick for =/

Still getting this if it gets a US release though..(which it won't so why bother)
duckroll
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(12-26-2007, 02:28 PM)
 
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#23

Originally Posted by BlackTyrano:
I'd like to see what happens in the new story...but on the other hand Guilty Gear XX's story mode already made almost no sense.

Really? GG, GGX and GGXX have pretty much the best story mode in fighters imo. In fact, the story mode are more like visual novel adventures than fighting games. They're not one linear story for each character like in normal fighters but an overall story with events that each character experiences all over the worldview.

I think a good way to put it is.... Guilty Gear's storyline is the RPG storyline that Arc never had the budget ot make a RPG for.
Jenga
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(12-26-2007, 02:29 PM)
 
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I'm praying for a US Wii release. Also, because of this I'll have to skip out on Accent Core.
BlackTyrano
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(12-26-2007, 03:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by duckroll:
Really? GG, GGX and GGXX have pretty much the best story mode in fighters imo. In fact, the story mode are more like visual novel adventures than fighting games. They're not one linear story for each character like in normal fighters but an overall story with events that each character experiences all over the worldview.

I think a good way to put it is.... Guilty Gear's storyline is the RPG storyline that Arc never had the budget ot make a RPG for.

Yeah, I guess it is good compared with other fighters, but it's not like that's saying too much. But it was pretty hard to piece together what was happening in the story. It's been a while but there were some dialogue sequences where I had no idea why the characters were saying what they were saying, or fighting each other. Maybe knowing the earlier games' plots would have helped though.
Yasser
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(12-26-2007, 04:15 PM)
 
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Originally Posted by BlackTyrano:
Yeah, I guess it is good compared with other fighters, but it's not like that's saying too much. But it was pretty hard to piece together what was happening in the story. It's been a while but there were some dialogue sequences where I had no idea why the characters were saying what they were saying, or fighting each other. Maybe knowing the earlier games' plots would have helped though.
yeah agreed, i didn't know what was going on until i read an faq (http://www.*************/console/ps2/file/562111/21874), and that had taken a lot from the japanese-only drama cd's
viewtiful_dru
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(12-26-2007, 04:26 PM)
 
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I'd imagine that if the original JP release of Accent Core was fine and not buggy, we'd never see this come out.

It's just ArcSys's apology for the glitches and the time gamers had to wait for them to release a version to fix them.
TreIII
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(12-26-2007, 04:28 PM)
 
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As long as there's an Append Disc I can get for cheap, I have no issue about this. I would mostly just wonder if they would bother making Justice and Kliff legit characters now, or if they would just be nice extras that still would be banned from serious play.

Originally Posted by viewtiful_dru:
I'd imagine that if the original JP release of Accent Core was fine and not buggy, we'd never see this come out.

It's just ArcSys's apology for the glitches and the time gamers had to wait for them to release a version to fix them.

Possibly, but it's also sounding like something for them to basically "save face" after GG2. The game pretty much did bomb spectacularly, didn't it? The fact that the game did little to resolve what happened to like 75% of the cast didn't help.

So, in a way, AC+ is an apology for more than a choice couple things.
Link1110
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(12-26-2007, 04:52 PM)
 
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Originally Posted by duckroll:
Let's see:

- If you bought the Japanese version, you bought a totally bugged version of the game at full price with NO exchange or return policy because Arc couldn't afford to recall it.

- If you bought the US version, you're likely not going to see this in the US? I don't see why anyone would translate and dub 350 scenarios only to be forced by Sony to release the game at budget price because it's a re-release of the same game.

- If you bought either Wii version, well, you're totally missing out on this one!

How is this buttraping exercise like a regular fighting game? :)
Would SCEA allow an append disc?
ZealousD
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(12-26-2007, 07:03 PM)
 
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Originally Posted by Lee N:
Really, fighting games get new versions every 6 months? This is new.

This is a very different scenario. This isn't like Slash->Accent Core or SFII Hyper ->Super SFII. This is essentially everything that should have originally been in Accent Core. Accent Core was essentially a bare bones experience compared to the other GG's because it didn't have things like the story mode. And now they're going to add it in a rerelease, and the US isn't going to be a part of it? That's a punch in the gut.
Mockingbird
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(12-26-2007, 07:08 PM)
 
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I think I'm still going to buy GGXX AC for Wii today for $30 at Gamestop (they dropped the price $10), seeing as how no Wii version for this is announced - and probably won't be considering the super poor sales.
Link316
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(12-26-2007, 07:13 PM)
 
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Originally Posted by Link1110:
Would SCEA allow an append disc?

PS2's @ the point where they don't care what gets released anymore, the real problem is finding someone to publish it
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(12-26-2007, 07:19 PM)
 
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Originally Posted by Link316:
PS2's @ the point where they don't care what gets released anymore, the real problem is finding someone to publish it
I'd think Aksys would still go for it at this point.
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(12-26-2007, 07:24 PM)
 
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#34




:|
Gekkonidae
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(12-26-2007, 07:34 PM)
 
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Didn't they already fix the bugs from the PS2 version in the Wii version release?
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(12-26-2007, 07:36 PM)
 
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I can understand this would be a bit of a concern if you played GG competitively. Sadly there's not many people around here who do. Happily that means I don't care

Ah well, maybe I'll get GGXXAC+, as I skipped over AC. When AC was released, I had only just picked up Slash for like $30AU and had only just bought a JP PS2.

Semi-troll: I hope they make a sequel to FoTNS.
Gunloc
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(12-26-2007, 07:49 PM)
 
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I haven't picked up Accent Core yet, so I'll wait and see if Aksys releases this in NA first. The multiple scenarios sound interesting and I like to have the most complete version of a game possible.
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(12-26-2007, 07:58 PM)
 
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what were the bugs in the US PS2 AC release?
Mockingbird
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(12-26-2007, 08:03 PM)
 
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Originally Posted by Gunloc:
The multiple scenarios sound interesting and I like to have the most complete version of a game possible.

Then don't pick up Accent Core Plus either =p
Farore
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(12-27-2007, 12:35 AM)
 
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So... If I don't care for the storyline... the American version (Wii or PS2) is fine?
Dice
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(12-27-2007, 12:42 AM)
 
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Heh, I just got AC and it is my first GG.
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(12-27-2007, 12:42 AM)
 
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Originally Posted by Farore:
So... If I don't care for the storyline... the American version (Wii or PS2) is fine?

It also has less characters so if you are fine with that...
Farore
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(12-27-2007, 12:55 AM)
 
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Originally Posted by HK-47:
It also has less characters so if you are fine with that...

Yes, I'm fine with that... is not like Aksys removed them in the first place :P ..

So... gameplay wise... everything will be the same? I was going to buy the American version just yesterday...
bungiefan
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(12-27-2007, 01:54 AM)
#44

Originally Posted by UnholySpectacle:
How does the append disc work?

If it's anything like the Persona 3 FES append disc, you have to pop in the original version disc at a prompt, and then go back to the append disc. It won't boot past the prompt without the original Japanese Accent Core disc. It's just a way to prove you bought the original version of the upgrade so they can sell a discounted disc for previous supporters. It still doesn't make sense why they're charging about $60 for the standalone disc when every GG revision since #R has been releassed at about $50, including the first version of AC.

All of the changes seem to be along the line of the changes between X and X+, as the core gameplay didn't change, but they added all of these modes that weren't in plain X. Also, Kliff and Justice have been in every console GG game with Story and/or Mission modes. It's pretty much a given for them to be there if those mdoes are there, and to not be there if those modes are not (i.e. Isuka, Accent Core). Slash and #R had them because the games had Mission modes (though not necessarily Story modes as Story wasn't in Japanese #R, just Korean, American and European.).

It's a bit of a gamble for Aksys to take on releasing Plus, unless they do the Append Disc, since AC was so much more recent for us and isn't a bug fix. Aksys is a pretty small company, and bigger companies like Square and Namco haven't released upgrades for much more popular games (Final Fantasy X/X-2/XII International, Kingdom Hearts I/II Final Mix, Xenosaga Episode 1 Reloaded). How would people react to Aksys if they released an upgraded version so soon, at any price? Would they want to risk ticking people off so that they don't buy from their company again for fear of a similar situation happening again and they have to buy a second copy of the game for upgrades? Even the append disc is still a risk, though at least the game wasn't released here at a price higher than $30.
ezekial45
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(12-27-2007, 01:57 AM)
 
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I still haven't bought GGX2AC yet. Though i don't know if i should feel fortunate about it.
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(12-27-2007, 01:57 AM)
 
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Originally Posted by _leech_:


:|
I noticed that too...
VALKYRAY
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(12-27-2007, 02:24 AM)
 
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#47

shit another update!?
TreIII
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(12-27-2007, 02:43 AM)
 
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Originally Posted by bungiefan:
It's a bit of a gamble for Aksys to take on releasing Plus, unless they do the Append Disc, since AC was so much more recent for us and isn't a bug fix. Aksys is a pretty small company, and bigger companies like Square and Namco haven't released upgrades for much more popular games.

Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection, for both PSP and PS3, speak to the contrary. Hell, I would think they would be even more extreme of an example, considering Namco was pretty much banking on the notion that they would get people to buy basically an upgrade of an older game...and for new platforms, at that.

But any way, I would think that, giving Aksys' position, it'd probably be for the best just to release the append. By the time they could get around to released the Append (I'd guess Summer 08), AC-PS2 would certainly be dirt cheap. They could probably afford to release both the upgrade and the original in a dual pack for under 40 bucks, if they wanted to.
RyanDG
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(01-11-2008, 04:52 PM)
 
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http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/1212734_1407.html

First Famitsu screen shots of the game from the website.

Seeing Justice makes me very, very happy.
twinturbo2
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(01-11-2008, 05:00 PM)
 
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XBLA download???
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