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BirdFlu
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(01-24-2008, 10:42 PM)

Originally Posted by monkspider

Quick question: does the SU-DH1 only work with special headphones? I realize you would want pretty good ones to make it worthwhile.

They work with any standard headphones. Although to get the best out of the unit, you should really invest in some nicer ones. I myself am using Bose Triports. Although the quality is fine, I'm about to invest in some Audio Technica ATH-A900s myself.
allegate
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(01-24-2008, 10:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by BirdFlu

Yeah it takes optical in through a mini-toslink jack and processes the 5.1 DD/DTS stream using Dolby Headphone technology. I hooked mine up to a 360 using this cable:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

There's adapters for mini-toslink if you don't have a cable too but I just went ahead and ordered the cable since it was so cheap anyways

EDIT: I see a lot of you guys are looking to buy one. Just get the SU-DH1 from here:

http://www.audiocubes.com/category/H...e_Adapter.html

Audiocubes is a very reliable company and the unit they sell is also the Japanese version with the AC adapter port (removed from the U.S. version for some stupid reason). It's also not overpriced and only 10 bucks more than that ebay auction.

If you want the adapter (very expensive), get it from here:

http://store.aikotradingstore.com/jvcsuacpoad.html

Only place online that I could find that shipped to the U.S. Can't vouch for the company though since I opted for the rechargeable battery route. Which btw if you do decide to get rechargeable batteries. I highly recommend Sanyo Eneloops. You can find them at Circuit City or online. Read some reviews too; they're overwhelmingly positive.

nice, thanks for all the info and links.
Mindlog
(01-24-2008, 10:47 PM)
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Yeah it works with standard headphones.

Also, this adapter would work with it.

http://www.shoplet.com/office/db/TCO16300.html

Just set it to 3V, 500ma, center positive.

*another http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-UNIV-50...1215143&sr=8-1
Last edited by Mindlog; 01-24-2008 at 10:53 PM.
monkspider
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(01-24-2008, 10:48 PM)

Originally Posted by BirdFlu

They work with any standard headphones. Although to get the best out of the unit, you should really invest in some nicer ones. I myself am using Bose Triports. Although the quality is fine, I'm about to invest in some Audio Technica ATH-A900s myself.


Thank you kind sir. Just so I am completely clear, I would also need to invest in something like monoprice cable you linked to earlier to connect it to a 360? I appreciate the assistance, I had no clue that a device like this existed. I love surround sound but the Mrs. was never quite as appreciative in our small dwelling spaces. :)
BirdFlu
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(01-24-2008, 10:53 PM)

Originally Posted by monkspider

Thank you kind sir. Just so I am completely clear, I would also need to invest in something like monoprice cable you linked to earlier to connect it to a 360? I appreciate the assistance, I had no clue that a device like this existed. I love surround sound but the Mrs. was never quite as appreciative in our small dwelling spaces. :)

I'm in the exact same situation as you are since I live in an apartment complex. When I first stumbled on this thread, it was an eye-opener

But to answer your question, yeah you would need an optical cable with one standard Toslink male connector on one end and one mini-Toslink male connector on the other end. Or if you have an optical cable already with two male Toslink connectors on both ends, you can opt to get an adapter such as this one:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2
monkspider
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(01-24-2008, 10:55 PM)
Wonderful, thank you so much.
kiun
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(01-28-2008, 10:58 PM)
Just a word of warning. While trying to hook up the SU-DH1, I realized the optical cable does not fit my Xbox 360 HDAV's toslink port snuggly. It is very loose.

Apparently, its another MS manufacturing snafu as other ppl have been having the same issue as well: http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=314882
allegate
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(01-28-2008, 11:52 PM)
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one final question before I order one of those from that audiocubes site: when I get it, will it come with the AC adapter or will I have to find one?
Router
Hopsiah the Kanga-Jew
(01-28-2008, 11:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by kiun

Just a word of warning. While trying to hook up the SU-DH1, I realized the optical cable does not fit my Xbox 360 HDAV's toslink port snuggly. It is very loose.

Apparently, its another MS manufacturing snafu as other ppl have been having the same issue as well: http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=314882


It fits the port on my MS VGA cables fine. Must be a problem with the standard component ones.
Xirj
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(01-29-2008, 12:01 AM)
Stereo quality headphones >>>> 5.1 headphones anyday. I guarantee Rez HD will be more immersive on a set of KSC75's than any 5.1 headphone out there, especially if driven through a decent cheap amp like a Cmoy or a PA2v2.

Also glad to see some head-fi.org recognition going around. :D
Chrono
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(01-29-2008, 01:43 AM)

Originally Posted by Xirj

Stereo quality headphones >>>> 5.1 headphones anyday. I guarantee Rez HD will be more immersive on a set of KSC75's than any 5.1 headphone out there, especially if driven through a decent cheap amp like a Cmoy or a PA2v2.

Also glad to see some head-fi.org recognition going around. :D


Quality 5.1 headphones >>>> quality stereo headphones. If you read the thread you'd know nobody's recommending actual 5.1 headphones but virtualization technology for stereo headphones, like dolby headphone.
L0st Id3ntity
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(02-02-2008, 08:30 PM)
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One last bump.

I've just ordered the Beyerdynamic DT 250 (after a LOT of researching) + the JVC SU-DH1 adapter.

Good choice?
Twix
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(02-02-2008, 08:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by L0st Id3ntity


Good choice?



L0st Id3ntity
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(02-02-2008, 09:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by Twix

*smacks head*
allegate
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(02-03-2008, 01:42 AM)
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Originally Posted by bune duggy

one final question before I order one of those from that audiocubes site: when I get it, will it come with the AC adapter or will I have to find one?

this again. I can make do with batteries if the drain isn't too bad I guess but I'd really like to know.
BirdFlu
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(02-03-2008, 01:49 AM)

Originally Posted by bune duggy

this again. I can make do with batteries if the drain isn't too bad I guess but I'd really like to know.

The SU-DH1 doesn't come with an adapter. Sold separately
Gattsu25
Formerly Wakune
(02-03-2008, 01:58 AM)
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Wow, so much information in this thread
allegate
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(02-03-2008, 02:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by BirdFlu

The SU-DH1 doesn't come with an adapter. Sold separately

alright, thanks. is it easy to find one?
sun-drop
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(02-03-2008, 07:00 AM)

Originally Posted by Mindlog

Yeah it works with standard headphones.

Also, this adapter would work with it.

http://www.shoplet.com/office/db/TCO16300.html

Just set it to 3V, 500ma, center positive.

*another http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-UNIV-50...1215143&sr=8-1


can any 1 confirm this actually works? these AC adaptors i mean .. thats a pretty big saving from the official one if so ..
gregor7777
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(02-03-2008, 03:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by lambchop

can any 1 confirm this actually works? these AC adaptors i mean .. thats a pretty big saving from the official one if so ..


Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but I'm fairly certain the US version doesn't have the input for the AC adapter on the back. Some dismantling and soldering will be required.

EDIT: no AC input according to these guys:

http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f5/cou...su-dh1-271134/
Last edited by gregor7777; 02-03-2008 at 03:58 PM.
kbear
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(02-03-2008, 05:29 PM)
I need some help. I just want some wireless headphones that will make the sound from my TV speakers into the headphones. Doesn't need to be 5.1. Would a setup like this work:

Bluetooth® Home Stereo Adapter DC800

+

one of these headphones:
S805 http://direct.motorola.com/ens/s805/...A&language=ENS
HT820 http://direct.motorola.com/ens/BTSte...A&language=ENS
S9 http://direct.motorola.com/ens/s9/Headset_Home.asp

I don't have a stereo system or any kind of sound system... the sound comes straight from my TV speakers. So would that Adapter thing work? So I plug it into an audio jack in my TV and then one of those headphones will recognize it and the sound will be coming to the headphones and not out of the tv speaker?

edit, this is mainly for playing games for my PS3
Baryn
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(02-03-2008, 05:36 PM)
I have learned SO much from this thread. Definitely getting 5.1 headphones as my next home theater purchase.

/bookmark'd
L0st Id3ntity
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(02-03-2008, 06:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by L0st Id3ntity

One last bump.

I've just ordered the Beyerdynamic DT 250 (after a LOT of researching) + the JVC SU-DH1 adapter.

Good choice?

I still need confirmation, I've already placed an order, but there is still time to cancel it.



Beyerdynamic DT 250


Are these as good as I've read about them? Anything better out there for around 150$?
Dragona Akehi
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(02-03-2008, 06:39 PM)
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I just wanted to put in a good word for the Sennheiser 280pros.

These cans have amazing sound quality, even though they're closed. I find them perfect for my needs because trams are inordinately noisy and these cans completely block it out. (I have a low noise threshold and cannot therefore turn music up loader to compensate. Besides ones does not want to go deaf, no?)

They're also really good with portable devices. I use a Creative MP3 for voice recording, but the music has clear bass and rich tones through the 280pros. It's also perfect for PSP and DS.

Of course, they sound SPECTACULAR when hooked up to something more powerful than a portable device, though some people prefer the 555s.

I'm also very interested in this JVC SU-DH1 device. I might have to track one down...
BirdFlu
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(02-03-2008, 07:11 PM)

Originally Posted by L0st Id3ntity

I still need confirmation, I've already placed an order, but there is still time to cancel it.



Beyerdynamic DT 250


Are these as good as I've read about them? Anything better out there for around 150$?

You should really consider getting the Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 80 instead. They retail for $200 but you can find them in sale for around $150. They're some of the best non-amp driven headphones out there.
Fongul
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(02-03-2008, 07:49 PM)
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I see all the love for the SU-DH1, but I'm curious as to why Sony's MDR-DS1000 is not getting as much attention. I've owned this unit for a little more than a year and use them to game after my wife goes to sleep. I've ditched the headphones that the unit came with to use them with my Sennheiser 570's. Monster Hunter 2 Freedom is awesome with the unit, along with my X360 library (Ridge Racer 6 for the win :D)

I'm still curious if the experience with the SU-DH1 is better. If anyone has experience using both units, please post your impressions.

The Sony unit can be found here. You can get them cheaper from other sources, but I wound up applying for the Sony Card & getting them for $29 (you get a credit of $100 off your first purchase with the Sony Card)
Twilight Princess
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(02-03-2008, 07:51 PM)
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anyone has experience with ultrasone dji pro?
kbear
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(02-03-2008, 07:53 PM)

Originally Posted by Fongul

I see all the love for the SU-DH1, but I'm curious as to why Sony's MDR-DS1000 is not getting as much attention. I've owned this unit for a little more than a year and use them to game after my wife goes to sleep. I've ditched the headphones that the unit came with to use them with my Sennheiser 570's. Monster Hunter 2 Freedom is awesome with the unit, along with my X360 library (Ridge Racer 6 for the win :D)

I'm still curious if the experience with the SU-DH1 is better. If anyone has experience using both units, please post your impressions.

The Sony unit can be found here. You can get them cheaper from other sources, but I wound up applying for the Sony Card & getting them for $29 (you get a credit of $100 off your first purchase with the Sony Card)

That's perfect, except I'm looking for a wireless solution. Is there anything like that but wireless/bluetooth? and around the same price
LJ11
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(02-03-2008, 08:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Fongul

I see all the love for the SU-DH1, but I'm curious as to why Sony's MDR-DS1000 is not getting as much attention. I've owned this unit for a little more than a year and use them to game after my wife goes to sleep. I've ditched the headphones that the unit came with to use them with my Sennheiser 570's. Monster Hunter 2 Freedom is awesome with the unit, along with my X360 library (Ridge Racer 6 for the win :D)

I'm still curious if the experience with the SU-DH1 is better. If anyone has experience using both units, please post your impressions.

The Sony unit can be found here. You can get them cheaper from other sources, but I wound up applying for the Sony Card & getting them for $29 (you get a credit of $100 off your first purchase with the Sony Card)

Does the Sony have Dolby Headphone? I think that's the main difference between the two.
Sushen
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(02-03-2008, 08:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chrono

Quality 5.1 headphones >>>> quality stereo headphones. If you read the thread you'd know nobody's recommending actual 5.1 headphones but virtualization technology for stereo headphones, like dolby headphone.

I would recommend actual 5.1 headphones. I hate those virtualization crap; it never works. The one I got has tiny speakers in each cup and it works rather great. Playing FPSs with DD support is as good as it goes without having actual surround sound system; it's so awesome. Playing COD4 with the headphones on helps me keeping track of enemy's whereabouts.
Aruarian Reflection
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(02-03-2008, 08:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dragona Akehi

I just wanted to put in a good word for the Sennheiser 280pros.

These cans have amazing sound quality, even though they're closed. I find them perfect for my needs because trams are inordinately noisy and these cans completely block it out. (I have a low noise threshold and cannot therefore turn music up loader to compensate. Besides ones does not want to go deaf, no?)

They're also really good with portable devices. I use a Creative MP3 for voice recording, but the music has clear bass and rich tones through the 280pros. It's also perfect for PSP and DS.

Of course, they sound SPECTACULAR when hooked up to something more powerful than a portable device, though some people prefer the 555s.

I'm also very interested in this JVC SU-DH1 device. I might have to track one down...

I just bought the 280 Pros an hour ago. Amazon has them on the cheap.
Deus Ex Machina
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(02-03-2008, 08:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sushen

I would recommend actual 5.1 headphones. I hate those virtualization crap; it never works. The one I got has tiny speakers in each cup and it works rather great. Playing FPSs with DD support is as good as it goes without having actual surround sound system; it's so awesome. Playing COD4 with the headphones on helps me keeping track of enemy's whereabouts.

What 5.1 headphones you have?
allegate
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(02-03-2008, 08:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by SnowWolf

I just bought the 280 Pros an hour ago. Amazon has them on the cheap.

WOW you're not kidding. Ordered!
Luckyman
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(02-03-2008, 10:33 PM)

Originally Posted by Sushen

I would recommend actual 5.1 headphones. I hate those virtualization crap; it never works. The one I got has tiny speakers in each cup and it works rather great. Playing FPSs with DD support is as good as it goes without having actual surround sound system; it's so awesome. Playing COD4 with the headphones on helps me keeping track of enemy's whereabouts.

Sorry, there is a reason why *real* brands are not doing 5.1 headphones.

Dolby Headphone with quality stereo headphones is as good as it gets.
kiun
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(02-03-2008, 10:39 PM)

Originally Posted by Luckyman

Sorry, there is a reason why *real* brands are not doing 5.1 headphones.

Dolby Headphone with quality stereo headphones is as good as it gets.

Never tried 5.1 headphones, but I'm very satisfied with my SU-DH1 + Sennheiser 595 combo.
Flynn
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(02-04-2008, 12:21 AM)
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Maybe you guys can help me out too.

I'm looking for cheap and sturdy gaming USB headphones.

My problem is that I go through a pair of headphones w/mic every six months, either the internal connections get loose or the actual headgear breaks somewhere. Maybe it's because I've got a big head. Don't know. But all I know is that I don't want to spend $50 on headphones that are going to be broken in four months.

I bought a pair of Rocketfish from Best Buy and they're falling apart, so I'm definitely in the market.
L0st Id3ntity
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(02-05-2008, 02:28 PM)
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Does the JVC SU-DH1 run 250ohm headphones fine?
sun-drop
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(02-07-2008, 01:41 PM)

Originally Posted by Mindlog

Awesome :D

3V @ 500mA, Center Positive. Just have to sort through my pile of adapters.


hey what size plug does the asian version take? 've got one on order, but need a Ac adaptor.

which one am i looking for on here for eg.

http://www.tradetech.co.nz/shop/Cons.../x_page/1.html

pref one with just the right plug, i dnt want a multi plug one if i can avoid it
Davidion
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(02-07-2008, 01:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by kbear

That's perfect, except I'm looking for a wireless solution. Is there anything like that but wireless/bluetooth? and around the same price

With wireless/bluetooth solutions you are immediately looking at both of the following: a) loss in sound quality and b) big increase in price. I would look into getting a Sennheiser wireless setup if you HAVE to go that route but heed the warning.

Originally Posted by Dragona Akehi

I just wanted to put in a good word for the Sennheiser 280pros.

These cans have amazing sound quality, even though they're closed. I find them perfect for my needs because trams are inordinately noisy and these cans completely block it out. (I have a low noise threshold and cannot therefore turn music up loader to compensate. Besides ones does not want to go deaf, no?)

They're also really good with portable devices. I use a Creative MP3 for voice recording, but the music has clear bass and rich tones through the 280pros. It's also perfect for PSP and DS.

Of course, they sound SPECTACULAR when hooked up to something more powerful than a portable device, though some people prefer the 555s.

I'm also very interested in this JVC SU-DH1 device. I might have to track one down...

If you enjoy the 280 pros (which I have and love, it being my first pair of studio/reference-grade headphones), for the same price range you can also consider the Sony MDR7506's. Though portable audiophiles never talk about them for some reason, they sound absolutely fantastic, have excellent range (I feel they're slightly brighter and has a much punchier bass than the 280's), decent soundstage and great clarity. They are also closed for public use and are standard equipment for both the studio and street crew set.

My only criticism of the 280's is that they're a bit too neutral and lacking on the lower freq's. That and they're a little flimsy for someone like me with a big head. Otherwise they're great.

Originally Posted by Flynn

Maybe you guys can help me out too.

I'm looking for cheap and sturdy gaming USB headphones.

My problem is that I go through a pair of headphones w/mic every six months, either the internal connections get loose or the actual headgear breaks somewhere. Maybe it's because I've got a big head. Don't know. But all I know is that I don't want to spend $50 on headphones that are going to be broken in four months.

I bought a pair of Rocketfish from Best Buy and they're falling apart, so I'm definitely in the market.

I'd avoid USB and aim for regular TRS (standard 1/8 inch headphone plugs) cans. Are you looking for a headset or a regular pair of headphone w/o mic?

Originally Posted by L0st Id3ntity

Does the JVC SU-DH1 run 250ohm headphones fine?

It depends on your source, though if you're buying new, there are many low impedance cans to choose from so I'd avoid a 250ohm paid of headphones unless you have a dedicated amp.






Sometimes I look at my game collection and think about how many pairs of headphones I could have bought instead...........:(
Last edited by Davidion; 02-07-2008 at 02:01 PM.
Kordos
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(02-07-2008, 02:02 PM)
I have the Tritton AX360

The biggest issue is that the primary left / right speakers are large diameter, while the left-front and left-back speakers are much much smaller.

This means that in a 3d game, the tonal qualities of a source will get really "tinny" as you turn to face them (or turn away from them) - things only sound normal when they are directly to your left or right.

There are some other nitpicky issues (a small amount of high frequency digital noise), but the deltas in frequency response between the main L/R and the secondary 5.1 speakers is a fundamental flaw for me, and is a dealbreaker.

Instead, I've ended up just using the AX360s in standard stereo mode. Good enough for now.
allegate
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(02-07-2008, 02:04 PM)
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The Sennheisers are on their way, the SU-DH1 is on its way from Audiocubes, but monoprice is out of the cables. sheesh. :lol

and yeah, I'd just like to reiterate what lambchop is asking because I don't want to go to rough a pack of batteries a week (nor recharge a pack of batteries every two days). What's the information I need to go to Goodwill and pick up an AC adapter from there? Specifically, what numbers am I looking for and in what order? Thanks.
traveler
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(02-07-2008, 03:26 PM)
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So, I'm debating between the 280 Pros and the Sennheiser 555s. I've seen recommendations for both, but how do they compare?
sun-drop
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(02-07-2008, 11:34 PM)
my 555's arrived yesterday ... pretty great, the virtual haircut thing sounded great with them.
Flynn
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(02-08-2008, 12:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by Davidion

I'd avoid USB and aim for regular TRS (standard 1/8 inch headphone plugs) cans. Are you looking for a headset or a regular pair of headphone w/o mic?

My desktop is an HP Pavillion, which has a difficult time recognizing when headphones are plugged in -- that's why I tend to lean towards USB headsets. I wound up grabbing a flimsy pair of Plantronics for around $40 bucks. Maybe they'll give more than the bigger headsets and not break as easily.
sun-drop
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(02-08-2008, 02:16 AM)
could some one with the AC adaptor take a quick measurement of the plug bit which goes into the SU-DH1 ?

that should be all the info i need i guess other than whats mentioned already.
sun-drop
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(02-09-2008, 03:41 AM)
well it arrived, pretty fast delivery, 4 or so days. hot.

yay flickr:











and in the manual, the detail on the optional AC adaptor:



so if thats the power adaptor ..

[IMG]http://i5.************/8efvudz.jpg[/IMG]

3V @ 500mA, Center Positive...



and the hole for the power adapter on the su-dh1 is about a 2mm wide, then which unit on the following site should i get?

http://www.tradetech.co.nz/shop/Cons.../x_page/1.html
allegate
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(02-09-2008, 04:33 AM)
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mine just shipped (I love time zones: Your item left OSAKA INT, JAPAN on February 9, 2008. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later.). I should get it on the 12th I guess if your shipping is any indication.

it looks like the MiniDisc player I used to have. :lol
L0st Id3ntity
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(02-09-2008, 11:08 AM)
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Whoa, looks much hotter than what some other pics show.

Mine is on the way, can't wait. :D
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(02-09-2008, 11:29 AM)
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Nice to see this thread is still alive. I'm still very happy with my su-dh1. Just need to upgrade my headphones now that I have some spare cash.
Feint331
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(02-09-2008, 12:48 PM)
i own audiotechnica ath-a500 and ad900. i run my 360 through my pc with the xfi-music. i can't afford and don't have the room for full hometheatre speakers (not that my neighbours would approve anyway). they work great especially in online games like cod4/r6v you hear more through headphones.

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