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Should...should I be hyped?

Great graphics for the DS! But robot design bit bland.

I hope this gets localized.

I know it won't T_T

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So is it just different characters, same universe?

So does that Famitsu reveal any of the other rumors about Suikoden and such?

And this wont get a localized version, will it? :(

Originally Posted by Fady K

So does that Famitsu reveal any of the other rumors about Suikoden and such?

And this wont get a localized version, will it? :(

Thought that the rumor stated that Suikoden would be announced in the new Jump

Edit: Yeah, it does.

Originally Posted by Jonnyram

Rumour: Jump confirms ToV for 360 and Suikoden VI for Wii.

Fanservice never hurts the game sales, I guess.

Originally Posted by crimsonheadGCN

Thought that the rumor stated that Suikoden would be announced in the new Jump

I think it did, my bad.

Holy crap.

Please tell me this isn't some kind of hoax. I will so be buying this.

The Monolithsoft side producer is Koji Ishitani, who also produced NxC. After reading the interview, it sounds pretty lolz. They want to expand the scope of Original Generations to another genre, so they picked a RPG. The battle system sounds a lot like NxC's except with a party system. You press one button over and over to do multiple attacks and combos based on timing, and it's supposed to give the game an "action packed" feel.

It's sad to see how far Monolithsoft has fallen. Disaster, Soma Bringer, OG Saga.... what the hell happened to Takahashi and Honne? Who knows if they're even with the company...

Am I doing this right?
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Looking good.

Originally Posted by Busaiku

So is it just different characters, same universe?

Probably different universe. They gender switched Kyosuke and Excellen.

Well, at least being an OG game it has a chance of being localized.

Though thinking back if the choice was between using a translation guide for the various SRW games or paying $90 for each one...

Anyways, give peace and cleavage a chance. I never judge a game to suck just by the team making it or the genre that it's in. This could be good.

The days of Xenogears hype are clearly over.

Originally Posted by duckroll

The Monolithsoft side producer is Koji Ishitani, who also produced NxC. After reading the interview, it sounds pretty lolz. They want to expand the scope of Original Generations to another genre, so they picked a RPG. The battle system sounds a lot like NxC's except with a party system. You press one button over and over to do multiple attacks and combos based on timing, and it's supposed to give the game an "action packed" feel.

It's sad to see how far Monolithsoft has fallen. Disaster, Soma Bringer, OG Saga.... what the hell happened to Takahashi and Honne? Who knows if they're even with the company...

What's wrong with Soma Bringer and Disaster? Though I do wonder where Honne is. I take it if he's not with Disaster, then he's on the other unannounced Monolith Project.

Originally Posted by CTLance

Am I doing this right?
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Looking good.

Hahaha.... for those who don't know much about birds that would be a titmouse. Well, maybe I'm a big dork for finding that funny, but oh well.

Originally Posted by Jamesfrom818

I hope this gets localized.

I know it won't T_T

I don't know.. remember, Nintendo owns Monolithsoft. They might localize it.

Also is that an orange Weissritter?

Originally Posted by Mockingbird

Though I do wonder where Honne is. I take it if he's not with Disaster, then he's on the other unannounced Monolith Project.

The one that Matsuno is doing.

Holy Cleavage Batman!

Originally Posted by Mockingbird

What's wrong with Soma Bringer and Disaster?

They look like fucking ugly low budget doujin games just like this one? I think that's pretty seriously wrong. :P

Some of those character shots look like their about to turn hentai. But that's just Japan.

Originally Posted by IzumiK

Some of those character shots look like their about to turn hentai. But that's just Japan.

That's just knowing their demographics actually.

Originally Posted by duckroll

They look like fucking ugly low budget doujin games just like this one? I think that's pretty seriously wrong. :P

You know, duckroll, your vitriol would be easier to take seriously if you ever seemed to like anything. Have you ever played an RPG/SRPG that you actually enjoyed? :p

Originally Posted by Tellaerin

You know, duckroll, your vitriol would be easier to take seriously if you ever seemed to like anything. Have you ever played an RPG/SRPG that you actually enjoyed? :p

Sure, maybe your accusations would be taken seriously if they were grounded in facts! :lol

Originally Posted by duckroll

They look like fucking ugly low budget doujin games just like this one? I think that's pretty seriously wrong. :P

I fail to see how it's ugly.

It looks like nice 2D graphics. And hey, more SRW (even in a different form) is never a bad thing.

Originally Posted by PataHikari

I fail to see how it's ugly.

It looks like nice 2D graphics. And hey, more SRW (even in a different form) is never a bad thing.

The battles look nice, but then so did Namco x Capcom. The world map and field graphics look really gutter 2D, especially for DS. And there are random encounters. Really cheapo effort. If it's anything like NxC, which judging from the staff and interview it will be, you'll get totally sick of the battles after the first 10 hours, but the game will go on for another 60 hours. I fail to see how this is a good thing.

Originally Posted by duckroll

The battles look nice, but then so did Namco x Capcom. The world map and field graphics look really gutter 2D, especially for DS. And there are random encounters. Really cheapo effort. If it's anything like NxC, which judging from the staff and interview it will be, you'll get totally sick of the battles after the first 10 hours, but the game will go on for another 60 hours. I fail to see how this is a good thing.

Uh-huh.

Whatever.

I'm going to wait till the game is actually out before I decide whether or not to be negative.

Originally Posted by duckroll

Sure, maybe your accusations would be taken seriously if they were grounded in facts! :lol

Hey, instead of blowing me off, why not point out some games you've liked? Seriously, the only things that stick in my head have been you dogging various series (the Tales games come to mind) and companies. Even on the occasions you have grudgingly seemed to enjoy something, it always seems to come with a bunch of caveats about how it's too little too late, the company in question deserves to go down in flames, etc. :p What do you enjoy? What actually rates the duckroll Seal of Approval? (tm) That would help put your criticisms in perspective.

Originally Posted by Tellaerin

Hey, instead of blowing me off, why not point out some games you've liked? Seriously, the only things that stick in my head have been you dogging various series (the Tales games come to mind) and companies. Even on the occasions you have grudgingly seemed to enjoy something, it always seems to come with a bunch of caveats about how it's too little too late, the company in question deserves to go down in flames, etc. :p What do you enjoy? What actually rates the duckroll Seal of Approval? (tm) That would help put your criticisms in perspective.

I think he liked Crisis Core.

...aaannnd that's about all I can remember.

Originally Posted by Tellaerin

Hey, instead of blowing me off, why not point out some games you've liked? Seriously, the only things that stick in my head have been you dogging various series (the Tales games come to mind) and companies. Even on the occasions you have grudgingly seemed to enjoy something, it always seems to come with a bunch of caveats about how it's too little too late, the company in question deserves to go down in flames, etc. :p What do you enjoy? What actually rates the duckroll Seal of Approval? (tm) That would help put your criticisms in perspective.

If nothing else, he liked Baten Kaitos and Xenosaga III. I think that's his point: that Monolith Soft's quality has really tanked because look at what they made before and then look at what they're making now.

Of course, I don't think this game really fits into that narrative. While I agree it looks pretty awful, it also looks like Namco x Capcom with a SRW skin instead of... well, Namco and Capcom. So it's just a continuation of something that sucked in Monolith Soft before recent times.

Anyway, he's ducky being ducky. Just let him be. Ignore it if it bothers you that much.

Eh just leave duckroll alone. He's your typical otaku and with that comes a lot of criticism towards the hobby that he deals with. Sometimes his advice is spot on, other times it's a load of crap. Just be thankful that he's on this forum and willing to hand out his own piece of mind rather then get washed away by the corporate machine.

Looks fake.

Originally Posted by Jonnyram

Looks fake.

?

Originally Posted by Jonnyram

Looks fake.

I didn't want to believe Monolithsoft had fallen so far. :(

Originally Posted by Jonnyram

Looks fake.

What looks fake about it?

Originally Posted by ethelred

If nothing else, he liked Baten Kaitos and Xenosaga III. I think that's his point: that Monolith Soft's quality has really tanked because look at what they made before and then look at what they're making now.

Of course, I don't think this game really fits into that narrative. While I agree it looks pretty awful, it also looks like Namco x Capcom with a SRW skin instead of... well, Namco and Capcom. So it's just a continuation of something that sucked in Monolith Soft before recent times.

The other problem with that line of thinking is that most of Monolith's earlier games were really plagued with quality issues, too. It's hard to see a big quality drop... except in the art department. Those guys have really fallen off the wagon.

Originally Posted by duckroll

He's making fun of me because I said I believed the initial photo scans were fake in the other thread. :)

Oh.

Hah.

Originally Posted by Jonnyram

Looks fake.

Yah, I agree, I mean they're just way too big to be natu... OOOOOOH, oops, well, you can't blame Duckroll.

This looks like the return of Namco x Capcom, only this time, using Banpresto who they originally patterned themselves from as the main source. =/

I think it's important to note that I diss a lot of developers not because I want to run them down, but I'm really frustrated that the industry can't seem to not run shit to the ground.

Tales is not a bad series, there are great developers within Tales Studio, but Namco has clearly chosen to run the series into the ground in the last few years and milk it for all it's worth. It's disgusting.

Monolithsoft was a really promising studio that actually worked on some pretty interesting games. Now they're just working on stuff that look so generic and unoriginal, and the art has taken a nosedive.

Mistwalker has really good concepts and ideas, but yet they keep working with either really incompetent writers, or programmers, or whatever it is that keeps plaguing their games with issues that revent them from being successful titles.

I dunno, it's really fucking depressing to look forward to stuff only to get disappointed over and over by the end results. It'll be great if everyone could say "this looks like a great game" and then it comes out and WOW IT'S A GREAT GAME! Rarely happens anymore. Best to keep expectations low and run everything down instead. :P

After all, how many games can be FFIV DS. :(

Originally Posted by ethelred

The other problem with that line of thinking is that most of Monolith's earlier games were really plagued with quality issues, too. It's hard to see a big quality drop... except in the art department. Those guys have really fallen off the wagon.

Are you really talking to yourself? :O

Originally Posted by duckroll

I dunno, it's really fucking depressing to look forward to stuff only to get disappointed over and over by the end results. It'll be great if everyone could say "this looks like a great game" and then it comes out and WOW IT'S A GREAT GAME! Rarely happens anymore. Best to keep expectations low and run everything down instead. :P

After all, how many games can be FFIV DS. :(

Agree with you there. How nice of a feeling it is though when you look at a game and think "not bad", then be blown away when you play it.

What's going on in the lower-left shot/art in the second scan? Is that some kind of sphinx train?

Man, those overworld graphics. Geez.