Shining Armor And Fine Words... The Official NO MORE HEROES Thread

[scitek]

So would anyone buy some shirts from the game if they ever produced them? Fuck, there's so much shirts I would buy Also, I want a sequel. Right now Suda you hear me? btw, any word on how NMH is selling in America so far?

Suda's already said he'd like to make a sequel.

[I Push Fat Kids]

More awesome:


'Dont get your throat slit'
Fuck those free-fights! I cannot beat them GODDAMMIT!!!
The third ranked was pretty damn difficult, took me many retries, although I was drunk.

[Dascu]

So would anyone buy some shirts from the game if they ever produced them? Fuck, there's so much shirts I would buy Also, I want a sequel. Right now Suda you hear me? btw, any word on how NMH is selling in America so far?

https://freeville.serversecured.net/...shopr/top.html

[dark10x]

Hmm, I'm really trying to enjoy this...but it just doesn't feel right. I loved Killer 7, but this is just such a mess technically. :( I went in expecting something unpolished, but damn, I know their budget was low but there were TONS of PS2 titles that were of this level (or better) that could easily hold 60 fps (at the very least). There are so many uninteresting bits in there too. I'm going to keep at it hoping for improvement, though.

It's like 50% awesome and 50% awful.

[Jirotrom]

rank 5 mission is one of the greatest things I've ever seen in gaming.

[goldenticket]

Hmm, I'm really trying to enjoy this...but it just doesn't feel right. I loved Killer 7, but this is just such a mess technically. :( I went in expecting something unpolished, but damn, I know their budget was low but there were TONS of PS2 titles that were of this level (or better) that could easily hold 60 fps (at the very least). There are so many uninteresting bits in there too. I'm going to keep at it hoping for improvement, though. It's like 50% awesome and 50% awful.

i was like that after the first time i played it but it gets better and you ignore the flaws more

[Error]

rank 5 mission is one of the greatest things I've ever seen in gaming.

letz shake?

[dark10x]

i was like that after the first time i played it but it gets better and you ignore the flaws more

That's what I wanted to hear.

[Jirotrom]

letz shake?

yes

[Error]

the fight against the 3rd ranked assassin is probably my favorite so far. the build up and everything, it was f'n sweet and so over the top.

[chespace]

Okay. I will push forward then.

I got extremely turned off after losing those one-hit-fail free fights while trying to earn money for the 9th ranked assassination, which requires you to drive ALL THE WAY BACK to the fucking store to re-activate it.

BTW, it feels great to actually be using my Wii again. I hadn't even checked out all the new Wii ware that had come out, like the Mii contests and stuff. I laughed pretty hard at some of those.

Turning on my Wii actually makes me want to play Mario Galaxy (I got 3 stars :P) and finish Twilight Princess.

We'll see if COD4 and EDF and DMC4 won't put a stop to this.

[Bebpo]

that was fucking awesome and took me by surprise.

Yeah, it's a good thing Suda is friends with Kojima or we would have never had that :P

[donkey show]

I got extremely turned off after losing those one-hit-fail free fights while trying to earn money for the 9th ranked assassination, which requires you to drive ALL THE WAY BACK to the fucking store to re-activate it.

Your soul is weak.

Once you get the hang of the really simple battle mechanics like dodging, those one-hit battles become easy. Just don't rush in and take each enemy one at a time.

[Jenga]

https://freeville.serversecured.net/...shopr/top.html

don't understand moonspeak


also, just finished the regular ending and so who was Sir Henry Motherfucker? And what about Sylvia being a con artist? Does it get answered in the real ending? And I unlock it by beating the game on Bitter right?

[Bebpo]

don't understand moonspeak also, just finished the regular ending and so who was Sir Henry Motherfucker? And what about Sylvia being a con artist? Does it get answered in the real ending? And I unlock it by beating the game on Bitter right?

In the Japanese version all you need to unlock the true ending is to buy the final weapon at the shop. That's it.

Did they change it for the US version?

[botticus]

Rank 4 now, the game just keeps getting better. The shooter section on the subway kicked my ass. Also, why was there no health upgrade after the fight with No. 4?

Thank God for unlimited continues. I actually managed to die against #4, I didn't waggle fast enough. :(

So, uh... on my way out to my third ranked fight before taking a break: what the fuck at Jeane wandering out the door. Thought it was a fluke until I came back and she wasn't on my list in the room. I guess that has something to do with the #3 assassin being a witch.

[Jenga]

In the Japanese version all you need to unlock the true ending is to buy the final weapon at the shop. That's it. Did they change it for the US version?

I suppose so. I beat Darkstar with the final weapon.

[careksims]

I just finished Ranked 7 and so far I am loving it. The only gripe is the driving which feels off, but other than that, This a must-have and no regrets here! I'm trying to do everything!

[Ril]

Just killed Death Metal, now doing odd-jobs to earn money to advance.

I think I'm in love. Combat = HOLY FUCKING SHIT *fapfapfap*

[thefro]

I just finished Ranked 7 and so far I am loving it. The only gripe is the driving which feels off, but other than that, This a must-have and no regrets here! I'm trying to do everything!

Try switching to first-person mode by hitting C while driving until you learn how the bike handles... it doesn't handle like a car in GTA.

[Error]

you can powerup 'finishing strikes' by the doing the same motion you did before to activate it.

for example when you finish a combo and the left arrow appears, do it again but before Travis delivers the blow and it'll become stronger, you get some flashy slow-mo too. I noticed that yesterday.

[Bebpo]

I suppose so. I beat Darkstar with the final weapon.

Damn that sucks. The true ending is excellent and finishing the game without it would feel really incomplete.


Man, from everything I've read I have really mixed feelings about how Suda changed the game up for the US version. I think the bloody US version is a major improvement and really pushes the exploitation b-movie feel. But OTOH, I'm very glad I played the JPN version because I play Suda games for the visual/audio experience and fun-factor. Getting stuck at a boss and spending 1-2 hours of retrying on them would seriously piss me off and make me enjoy the game much less. Same with not getting the real ending in 1 playthrough and having to replay the entire game over again on an even HARDER difficulty just to finally see the ending. It sounds like with the US version you have to spend 20+ hours total just to experience the same game that you can run right through and experience in 10 hours+ in the JPN one.

I think JPN developer's perception of every US gamer being this hardcore expert-mode only (ie, on JPN version you can survive 2 or 3 of those cutscenes final attacks from bosses), replay games over and over, fellow is really stupid. From my experience US gamers on average are like JPN gamers on average. There are the hardcore group and the mainstream group; the group with jobs who want shorter games and the group in school who want longer games. I think gameplay-wise titles should be identical across all regions.

Since the Europe version is getting the bloodless JPN one, I wonder if the gameplay changes will be more like the US one or JPN one.

[Jenga]

Damn that sucks. The true ending is excellent and finishing the game without it would feel really incomplete. Man, from everything I've read I have really mixed feelings about how Suda changed the game up for the US version. I think the bloody US version is a major improvement and really pushes the exploitation b-movie feel. But OTOH, I'm very glad I played the JPN version because I play Suda games for the visual/audio experience and fun-factor. Getting stuck at a boss and spending 1-2 hours of retrying on them would seriously piss me off and make me enjoy the game much less. Same with not getting the real ending in 1 playthrough and having to replay the entire game over again on an even HARDER difficulty just to finally see the ending. It sounds like with the US version you have to spend 20+ hours total just to experience the entire game that you can run right through and experience in 10 hours+ in the JPN one. I think JPN developer's perception of every US gamer being this hardcore expert-mode only (ie, on JPN version you can survive 2 or 3 of those cutscenes final attacks from bosses), replay games over and over, fellow is really stupid. From my experience US gamers on average are like JPN gamers on average. There are the hardcore group and the mainstream group; the group with jobs who want shorter games and the group in school who want longer games. I think gameplay-wise titles should be identical across all regions. Since the Europe version is getting the bloodless JPN one, I wonder if the gameplay changes will be more like the US one or JPN one.

Eh, I'm fine with it. Gives me an incentive to play second time on a harder difficulty. Now I can finally see how hard the bosses are (especially Shinobu, I thought she was easy first time I fought her)

[Jirotrom]

you can powerup 'finishing strikes' by the doing the same motion you did before to activate it. for example when you finish a combo and the left arrow appears, do it again but before Travis delivers the blow and it'll become stronger, you get some flashy slow-mo too. I noticed that yesterday.

you mean if the arrow moves to the left you are supposed to swipe left twice?

[JSnake]

I got the real ending on my first playthrough...

[Error]

you mean if the arrow moves to the left you are supposed to swipe left twice?

yeah, move wiimote to the left once to activate the finishing blow when travis is about to hit the enemy move it again to the left to give that blow a boost. you get some onscreen indication when you pull it off.

the game is not that hard, it's challenging but I never felt like "OH SHIT SO CHEAP!" Shinobu was easy once I started looking for openings instead of rushing in like an idiot.

[Ridley327]

FWIW, I just beat the game with the Tsubaki Mk-III and got the real ending just fine. I wonder if they changed the requirements to having both of its upgrades (including the infinite battery) as well. Though, as I remember it, I also got all of the trading cards on my file, so who knows.

Coming as someone who was a gigantic fan of Killer7, this game did not disappoint in the slightest. Yeah, there's games that have textures with more detail than all of Santa Destroy, but how many of those games have enemies that have paper bags on their heads, with drawn-in cat faces? I thought so.

[Bebpo]

I got the real ending on my first playthrough...

Yay. Having to replay it twice would be a really stupid design change.

So I'm guessing the requirement has just been changed and no one knows what it is? Jenga, did you have the model 3 sword that cost like 500k before you started mission 1?

[goldenticket]

john harker im having trouble with the same boss. i get her low on power and then she gets me with the cutscene insta death one. how did you beat her


also how do you do a side step. not the roll but during boss fights at times i have done like a quick step to the right before but not sure how i did it

[Bebpo]

also how do you do a side step. not the roll but during boss fights at times i have done like a quick step to the right before but not sure how i did it

When locked on just hold left or right on the nunchuck analogue. When the boss swings on some hits you'll slide in slow-motion to the side and then you get free hits.

Yeah I didn't learn that until I fought the super final boss, lol.

[Jenga]

Yay. Having to replay it twice would be a really stupid design change. So I'm guessing the requirement has just been changed and no one knows what it is? Jenga, did you have the model 3 sword that cost like 500k before you started mission 1?

Yep. The one that is made with Thunder Ryu's Sword correct?

[Bebpo]

Yep. The one that is made with Thunder Ryu's Sword correct?

Yeah. And you had all upgrades like the poster above mentioned?

Personally on the JPN version at the end I had done all the gym parts, found all the balls, bought all the weapon parts, all the videos. The only things I didn't complete were all the trading cards and all the t-shirts.

[Jenga]

Yeah. And you had all upgrades like the poster above mentioned? Personally on the JPN version at the end I had done all the gym parts, found all the balls, bought all the weapon parts, all the videos. The only things I didn't complete were all the trading cards and all the t-shirts.

Yeah, those upgrades are probably what I'm missing. Gonna go grind some jobs for dough as we speak.

[Jirotrom]

yeah, move wiimote to the left once to activate the finishing blow when travis is about to hit the enemy move it again to the left to give that blow a boost. you get some onscreen indication when you pull it off. the game is not that hard, it's challenging but I never felt like "OH SHIT SO CHEAP!" Shinobu was easy once I started looking for openings instead of rushing in like an idiot.

wow! thanks... makes things alot easier now.

[Nicktals]

Yeah, those upgrades are probably what I'm missing. Gonna go grind some jobs for dough as we speak.

Nope, it's not the upgrades. I had all the upgrades, all the swords and parts...If I don't have the final ending after this playthrough (on bitter), we'll know that it has to do with collecting the balls. I still have 7 of those left to get.

[Fuu]

I'm a bit lost, so there are different endings depending if you're playing on sweet or mild? Or is the different ending in an unlockable harder difficult?

Also, the amount of stuff and skills you get are related to this?

[goldenticket]

beat her finally she won the first 6 or 7 times though

When locked on just hold left or right on the nunchuck analogue. When the boss swings on some hits you'll slide in slow-motion to the side and then you get free hits.

thanks bebpo that helped. im not sure if its hold though it almost seemed like i had to tap it at the right time to do it.

[FlashbladeGAF]

Nope, it's not the upgrades. I had all the upgrades, all the swords and parts...If I don't have the final ending after this playthrough (on bitter), we'll know that it has to do with collecting the balls. I still have 7 of those left to get.

To add to the whole figuring out how to get the final ending.. I managed to get the final ending on my first play through on MILD. I got all the swords, but I never upgraded the final MK3(Ryu's Jedi knight katana), but I did upgrade all of the previous katanas. I did all the training and bought all the videos I managed to find all 9 balls atleast once, and I DIDN'T collect all the shirts or cards.

[Ridley327]

To add to the whole figuring out how to get the final ending.. I managed to get the final ending on my first play through on MILD

I am more and more inclined to believe that it is simply a difficulty requirement. I've been digging for info about this and no one seems to have a straight answer, which makes me lean in this direction. To anyone who are having troubles: are you guys on Sweet?

[Jenga]

I am more and more inclined to believe that it is simply a difficulty requirement. I've been digging for info about this and no one seems to have a straight answer, which makes me lean in this direction. To anyone who are having troubles: are you guys on Sweet?

Yes. First play-through was Sweet.

[morningbus]

My first playthrough was on sweet and I got the real ending. I wasn't at max strength (I believe I could have done more training) but I did have the ryu beam katana , and I did collect all the balls.

To those that didn't get the "real ending," when you beat the game: did an option menu with your choice of A) return to Santa Destroy B) view ending and C) view "real" ending not show up?

[JSnake]

When I got the real ending, I had bought all weapons and all parts except for one part. I did not have all the Lovikov balls or all the videos. I did not have all the stuff you can wear. I did have all the training from the gym.

[RoboPlato]

To those of you that got the real ending, did you have all the cards? I missed a couple, not really sure how, and I will be pissed if you need them all for the real ending since you can't go back. I have all the Lovikov balls, have done all the training, and gotten all the parts available at this point.

[Fuu]

I'm playing on mild, so I guess I'm okay. I'll still want to watch the other ending, though.

[donkey show]

My first playthrough was on sweet and I got the real ending. I wasn't at max strength (I believe I could have done more training) but I did have the ryu beam katana , and I did collect all the balls. To those that did get the "real ending," when you beat the game: did an option menu with your choice of A) return to Santa Destroy B) view ending and C) view "real" ending not show up?

That's what should have happened.

Man, from everything I've read I have really mixed feelings about how Suda changed the game up for the US version. I think the bloody US version is a major improvement and really pushes the exploitation b-movie feel. But OTOH, I'm very glad I played the JPN version because I play Suda games for the visual/audio experience and fun-factor. Getting stuck at a boss and spending 1-2 hours of retrying on them would seriously piss me off and make me enjoy the game much less. Same with not getting the real ending in 1 playthrough and having to replay the entire game over again on an even HARDER difficulty just to finally see the ending. It sounds like with the US version you have to spend 20+ hours total just to experience the entire game that you can run right through and experience in 10 hours+ in the JPN one. I think JPN developer's perception of every US gamer being this hardcore expert-mode only (ie, on JPN version you can survive 2 or 3 of those cutscenes final attacks from bosses), replay games over and over, fellow is really stupid. From my experience US gamers on average are like JPN gamers on average. There are the hardcore group and the mainstream group; the group with jobs who want shorter games and the group in school who want longer games. I think gameplay-wise titles should be identical across all regions. Since the Europe version is getting the bloodless JPN one, I wonder if the gameplay changes will be more like the US one or JPN one.

Considering I've beat the Japanese version (both on Mild and Bitter) and am now recently playing through the US one, besides the visual aspects (blood) the game doesn't seem that different in terms of difficulty or gameplay. I think the voices of the enemies have changed though... they don't say "I don't feel shit!" anymore after you slaughter them. Maybe I haven't gone far enough yet.

[morningbus]

I can confirm "I don't feel shit!" is still in the U.S. game.

[ezekial45]

Is anyone else missing the assassination gig # 18?

[besada]

I started playing this today. Amazing game. The best game I've played on the Wii.

Thank you, Suda 51. I wish more games were like this. A ton of technical problems (because it's on the wrong system) but worth every frame stutter and pop-in tree. Hilarious, ultraviolent, and actually fun to play.

[Error]

2nd ranked battle is fucked up, intense, badass and hilarious all in one.

it's gonna drive some people crazy here ^^;

bad girl is hot

[Jirotrom]

I started playing this today. Amazing game. The best game I've played on the Wii. Thank you, Suda 51. I wish more games were like this. A ton of technical problems (because it's on the wrong system) but worth every frame stutter and pop-in tree. Hilarious, ultraviolent, and actually fun to play.

the technical problems have nothing to do with the system

I just finished the second ranked one...I died once because of some stupid crap