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Lobster
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(01-17-2008, 02:05 AM)

-Four gameplay modes. Arcade, Tournament, Practice and Nature Trip modes
-15 stages. Find your favorite fishing spot in seven brand new stages created exclusively for the Wii or re-live your glory fishing days in four classic arcade and four Dreamcast stages
-Four types of bass. Hook four breeds of bass: Florida Large Mouth, Red Eye, Small Mouth and Northern Spike Large Mouth
-Improved graphics. This classic title first made a splash in the arcades and now the graphics have been updated for the Wii
-Authentic simulated fishing experience. New features have been created to take full advantage of the Wii Remote, including driving the boat with the control stick and reeling in your fish with the motion sensor
-20 types of lures

http://au.wii.ign.com/articles/846/846042p1.html

FIRST VIDEO!
Vic
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(01-17-2008, 02:14 AM)
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YEAH! BIG ONE!
TaeOH
Trying to prove that GodManPig exists, but until then he's one of us!
(01-17-2008, 02:16 AM)
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I have the DC version with the fishing controller, looks similar. Fun game though.
Core407
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(01-17-2008, 02:16 AM)
How do you reel in?
Lobster
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(01-17-2008, 02:18 AM)

Originally Posted by Core407

How do you reel in?

Most likely using the nunchuck.
RBH
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(01-17-2008, 02:22 AM)
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HIT BONUS!

They changed the announcer from the Dreamcast version :(, but at least they kept the cheesy music. :)
The Take Out Bandit
grrrrrrr bungle snitches!
rrrrrrrrrrrrr baba britches!
sumthin sumthin itches!
DRAGGGUUULLLAAA!!!
(01-17-2008, 02:23 AM)
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THey really need a Wii Gun like adapter for this where you can mount the waggle wand and snap the hanging chad to it sideways so you can have a legit reeling motion. THat would be awesome! :D
pilonv1
(01-17-2008, 02:23 AM)
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Sounds good, I loved the first one even though there wasn't much content. Not too keen on driving the boat though.
Lobster
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(01-17-2008, 02:24 AM)

Originally Posted by pilonv1

Sounds good, I loved the first one even though there wasn't much content. Not too keen on driving the boat though.

Im all for driving the boat if we can control it while we have a fish on.
inner-G
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(01-17-2008, 02:29 AM)
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Ok, it's time for my 2nd next-gen console.

Anyone know where to get a Wii? :lol
ForzaItalia
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(01-17-2008, 02:44 AM)
"Oh ya...it's cumming!"
Shanks
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(01-17-2008, 02:47 AM)
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$20 - Yes
$30 - ......Yes?
$50 - Pass.
Mr. Pointy
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(01-17-2008, 02:54 AM)
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I'm almost convinced. Though, Twilight Princess's fishing mini-game looks waaaaaaaaaaaaay better.
Shpeshal Ed
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(01-17-2008, 03:02 AM)
DC copy w/Fishing Rod > Wii Version
PataHikari
Should quit gaming and do something he enjoys for once
(01-17-2008, 03:03 AM)

Originally Posted by Shpeshal Ed

DC copy w/Fishing Rod > Wii Version

And you would know this, how.
Shpeshal Ed
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(01-17-2008, 03:10 AM)

Originally Posted by PataHikari

And you would know this, how.

DC Fishing rod is a fishing rod for a fishing game.

Wii remote and nunchuck is a TV style remote control with an extra attachment that IF I read right is simply there to steer the boat.

Please, the Wii is fun and coll and whatever, but this is just Sega cashing in. The Dreamcast version is where it's at if you want something closer to the arcade experience.

You wouldn't play Tennis with a baseball bat would you?
PataHikari
Should quit gaming and do something he enjoys for once
(01-17-2008, 03:21 AM)

Originally Posted by Shpeshal Ed

Wii remote and nunchuck is a TV style remote control with an extra attachment that IF I read right is simply there to steer the boat.

A TV style remote control with motion sensing.
Shpeshal Ed
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(01-17-2008, 03:22 AM)

Originally Posted by PataHikari

A TV style remote control with motion sensing.

Look, I've got Zelda TP, and the fishing minigame was actually pretty fun but:

1. From the sounds of it, Bass Fishing won't control the same way, which = fail

2. As fun as it was, playing Bass Fishing on DC was a better experience due mainly to the controller.
Core407
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(01-17-2008, 03:32 AM)

Originally Posted by PataHikari

A TV style remote control with motion sensing.

The fishing rod actually used accelerometers as well.
Lobster
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(01-17-2008, 03:47 AM)

Originally Posted by Shanks

$20 - Yes
$30 - ......Yes?
$50 - Pass.

Looks like a 30-40 dollar game. Its only half a new game.
PataHikari
Should quit gaming and do something he enjoys for once
(01-17-2008, 04:06 AM)

Originally Posted by Core407

The fishing rod actually used accelerometers as well.

Yeah, I know.
hclflow
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(01-17-2008, 04:54 AM)

Originally Posted by Shpeshal Ed

DC Fishing rod is a fishing rod for a fishing game.

Wii remote and nunchuck is a TV style remote control with an extra attachment that IF I read right is simply there to steer the boat.

Please, the Wii is fun and coll and whatever, but this is just Sega cashing in. The Dreamcast version is where it's at if you want something closer to the arcade experience.

You wouldn't play Tennis with a baseball bat would you?

That's the thing: YOU DIDN'T READ IT RIGHT. Try again.

"Shpeshal" indeed.
japtor
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(01-17-2008, 05:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by Core407

The fishing rod actually used accelerometers as well.

did it? all i remember it using the accelerometers for was hard motions like casting or flicking the lure around. to keep the rod in any direction you had to use the analog stick.
Toy Soldier
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(01-17-2008, 05:32 AM)
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The game is obviously good, a bona fide classic...so all it would take to make this a buy is to NOT completely bastardize the controls. Based on the look of things, it thankfully doesn't seem like SEGA did (nor should we have expected them to).

So yeah, I'm in, barring some sudden realization about broken controls in any pre-release press. Great game, I'm psyched to revisit it with new content.
Innotech
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(01-17-2008, 05:40 AM)
Sega, price this right and Im there.
My dad got Rapala fishing and it is a whole other level of dreadful. The original BAss fishing Sega game had motion controls so it has precedence. I trust it more.
tebunker
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(01-17-2008, 06:18 AM)
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The actual IGN article, why it was linked from Au.ign is stupifying, states that the game will be $30, and has quite a bit of extra content. I can definitely bite for that price. God bless Sega and the $30 arcade games, Ghost Squad, now this, hell who knows what will be next. Maybe HoTD will be $30 too...
LizardKing
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(01-17-2008, 06:50 AM)
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yeah i was just about to post it's 30 bucks according to gamestop. i'm definitely there at that price. still am not crazy about the reeling motion with the nunchuck though. i didn't really care for it in zelda fishing. not enough to put me off of the game though, just wish there was a reel attachment.
Mdk7
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by Graham Hopper
(01-17-2008, 12:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shpeshal Ed

Look, I've got Zelda TP, and the fishing minigame was actually pretty fun but:

1. From the sounds of it, Bass Fishing won't control the same way, which = fail

2. As fun as it was, playing Bass Fishing on DC was a better experience due mainly to the controller.

I already said it before and i do agree.
As much as i LOVED the original on DC, i'm not really feelings this one, it really sounds as a budget/kinda lazy project... And damn, the graphics are AWFUL.
Nathan Barley
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(01-17-2008, 12:13 PM)
Bah... I want SEGA MARINE fishing, not just the silly basseses.

Sharks, sting rays, tuna etc all crowded into a nice shallow tropical beach: with a proper SEGA BLUE SKY. Just like in real life. That was so much better.

If only Endless Ocean let you fish off the side of the boat. I want to catch me a booby.
Mdk7
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by Graham Hopper
(01-17-2008, 12:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nathan Barley

Bah... I want SEGA MARINE fishing, not just the silly basseses.

Sharks, sting rays, tuna etc all crowded into a nice shallow tropical beach: with a proper SEGA BLUE SKY. Just like in real life. That was so much better.

If only Endless Ocean let you fish off the side of the boat. I want to catch me a booby.

Nah, Bass Fishing >>>> Marine Fishing from the mere gameplay point of view.
Nathan Barley
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(01-17-2008, 12:39 PM)

Originally Posted by Mdk7

Nah, Bass Fishing >>>> Marine Fishing from the mere gameplay point of view.

Only if you actually like real fishing. I've never actually been fishing, but it strikes me as rather dull.

Bass fishing was more challenging though, agreed...

But Marine fishing gave me what I wanted. Which is silliness. You always catch something... Which made it a great post-pub party game for me, you can play it trashed and the experience improves exponentially. It's just a competition as to who can catch the coolest/biggest fishy.
slidewinder
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(01-17-2008, 12:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mdk7

Nah, Bass Fishing >>>> Marine Fishing from the mere gameplay point of view.

They both kicked ass in their different ways. A 2-in-1 game would've been amazing. This smells a little like milking, not that it won't be worth buying.

Edit: What Nathan said in defense of Marine Fishing.
Mdk7
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by Graham Hopper
(01-17-2008, 01:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nathan Barley

Only if you actually like real fishing. I've never actually been fishing, but it strikes me as rather dull.

Bass fishing was more challenging though, agreed...

But Marine fishing gave me what I wanted. Which is silliness. You always catch something... Which made it a great post-pub party game for me, you can play it trashed and the experience improves exponentially. It's just a competition as to who can catch the coolest/biggest fishy.

That's exactly it, i completely agree.
But i preferred a lot more the challenge of the first one -that actually requested you to have some skill to actually catch the fish (i'm not talking about reeling in!)- over the simpler and much more straightforward fun (à la who can catch the coolest/biggest fishy as you said...) that Marine provided.

I shamefully never got the chance to play Bass Fishing 2, how was it?
Shpeshal Ed
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(01-17-2008, 02:10 PM)

Originally Posted by hclflow

That's the thing: YOU DIDN'T READ IT RIGHT. Try again.

"Shpeshal" indeed.

attempting to be pretentious doesn't become you
twinturbo2
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(01-17-2008, 07:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by tebunker

The actual IGN article, why it was linked from Au.ign is stupifying, states that the game will be $30, and has quite a bit of extra content. I can definitely bite for that price. God bless Sega and the $30 arcade games, Ghost Squad, now this, hell who knows what will be next. Maybe HoTD will be $30 too...

HOTD was confirmed to be $30, as well. :D
hclflow
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(01-17-2008, 08:04 PM)

Originally Posted by Mdk7

That's exactly it, i completely agree.
But i preferred a lot more the challenge of the first one -that actually requested you to have some skill to actually catch the fish (i'm not talking about reeling in!)- over the simpler and much more straightforward fun (à la who can catch the coolest/biggest fishy as you said...) that Marine provided.

I shamefully never got the chance to play Bass Fishing 2, how was it?

I too preferred Bass Fishing over Marine Fishing, though I played plenty of both back in the day. I seem to remember playing Bass Fishing 2, but don't recall much about it.

Sega is doing their ports right with the Wii. At $30, how can you not bite? Sega fishing games are always ace.

Originally Posted by Shpeshal Ed

attempting to be pretentious doesn't become you

Awww, hurt human feelings? Would you feel better if I bought you a Hooked on Phonics starter pack?
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Plinko
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(02-25-2008, 01:06 PM)
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Only a few days from release day for this one and I'm really looking forward to it.

What scares me, though, is there hasn't been any reviews yet. Has anybody heard anything about how it turned out?
hclflow
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(02-28-2008, 09:06 AM)
I got this today. It is good fun but has some drawbacks.

The last Sega fishing game I played before this was Bass Fishing Duel on PS2. It allowed for moving the boat around to find different holes to fish. It allowed for varied styles of casting, and for you to adjust the length of your cast. It also had split-screen duels for awesome times.

Having played Sega Bass Fishing Wii for a couple hours, I have to say I'm a tad disappointed that Sims seems to have taken a step back from those improvements.

Detailed gripes:

- Reeling with the nunchuk is pretty lame at slow speed. Obviously your first reaction would be to try and reel in small circles, but the nunchuk itself is just incapable of registering the required slow movements consistently. As a result, you'll reel and watch your lure jerk as every time if you want to go at a slow pace.

Please keep in mind, fishing is an actual hobby of mine, so I may be a lot pickier about this than a lot of other players may be. At higher reeling speeds, the action does work just fine, but a lot of my technique involves subtle movements. YMMV. So, I just fish one-handed, as you can reel at three different speeds with A, B, and A+B. Reeling loses its analog feel if you go this route, but at least it's consistent.

- Casting is very basic. You pivot your boat around with the analog stick or D-pad, and you flick your remote when the cursor is where you want to cast. It automatically casts to the point of the cursor. There is no adjusting casting length based on the strength of your motion. No sidearm or underarm casting. If you need to sidearm it to get under a dock or whatnot, the game just does it for you. Feels very generic. But it works.

- There is no boat driving. You simply rotate your boat on a pivot along a coastline/dam surface/etc. It works well enough, but obviously it takes away a great deal of freedom and the rewarding feeling when you find a honey hole filled with monster bass. If there is boat driving it's a well-hidden feature. Or I'm just retarded, which is also a viable possibility.

- No split-screen duels or online tournaments. UBERFAIL.

- There's slowdown at times. When fishing in certain holes the framerate stays in the 20s. Annoying, but tolerable.


Despite the game's issues (some of which may be inherent in the DC originals' design, and therefore not technically flaws -- I don't remember), I'd say it's worth the $30, particularly if you're itching for some Sega fishing action. The core gameplay is spot-on. Catching fish is a lot of fun, and tilting and jerking the remote for various actions is well done and feels right. Lure action works very well from what I can tell so far. I've used cranks, grubs, jerks, spinners and poppers. They all do what they're supposed to and are controlled well through the Wiimote. Wish there was more liberal use of vibration though.

The music is awesome.

I'm having a lot of fun with it.

Edit: My bad, Sims (who?) programmed this. Cavia had merely a producing role, according to the game's credits.
Last edited by hclflow; 02-28-2008 at 10:08 PM. Reason: Oops!
Mdk7
Sequel dreams killed
by Graham Hopper
(02-28-2008, 09:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by hclflow

I got this today. It is good fun but has some drawbacks.

The last Sega fishing game I played before this was Bass Fishing Duel on PS2. It allowed for moving the boat around to find different holes to fish. It allowed for varied styles of casting, and for you to adjust the length of your cast. It also had split-screen duels for awesome times.

Having played Sega Bass Fishing Wii for a couple hours, I have to say I'm a tad disappointed that Cavia seems to have taken a step back from those improvements.

Detailed gripes:

- Reeling with the nunchuk is pretty lame at slow speed. Obviously your first reaction would be to try and reel in small circles, but the nunchuk itself is just incapable of registering the required slow movements consistently. As a result, you'll reel and watch your lure jerk as every time if you want to go at a slow pace.

Please keep in mind, fishing is an actual hobby of mine, so I may be a lot pickier about this than a lot of other players may be. At higher reeling speeds, the action does work just fine, but a lot of my technique involves subtle movements. YMMV. So, I just fish one-handed, as you can reel at three different speeds with A, B, and A+B. Reeling loses its analog feel if you go this route, but at least it's consistent.

- Casting is very basic. You pivot your boat around with the analog stick or D-pad, and you flick your remote when the cursor is where you want to cast. It automatically casts to the point of the cursor. There is no adjusting casting length based on the strength of your motion. No sidearm or underarm casting. If you need to sidearm it to get under a dock or whatnot, the game just does it for you. Feels very generic. But it works.

- There is no boat driving. You simply rotate your boat on a pivot along a coastline/dam surface/etc. It works well enough, but obviously it takes away a great deal of freedom and the rewarding feeling when you find a honey hole filled with monster bass. If there is boat driving it's a well-hidden feature. Or I'm just retarded, which is also a viable possibility.

- No split-screen duels or online tournaments. UBERFAIL.

- There's slowdown at times. When fishing in certain holes the framerate stays in the 20s. It's annoying, BUT HEY IT'S CAVIA. What did you expect.


Despite the game's issues (some of which may be inherent in the DC originals' design, and therefore not technically flaws -- I don't remember), I'd say it's worth the $30, particularly if you're itching for some Sega fishing action. The core gameplay is spot-on. Catching fish is a lot of fun, and tilting and jerking the remote for various actions is well done and feels right. Lure action works very well from what I can tell so far. I've used cranks, grubs, jerks, spinners and poppers. They all do what they're supposed to and are controlled well through the Wiimote. Wish there was more liberal use of vibration though.

The music is awesome.

I'm having a lot of fun with it.

Thanks for the hands on man, it was a pleasant read...
Even if...SLOWDOWNS on a Dreamcast port? WTF!?!

I think i'll skip this one anyway, but i'd have been there day one if Sega had given us a REAL sequel specifically made for Wii.
batbeg
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(02-28-2008, 09:16 AM)
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IGN also posted their review up, if anyone cares.

5.0 Presentation
Nothing special here. Menus are slow and require additional loads, and the list of modes is still very small, including only Nature Mode as a newcomer.

5.0 Graphics
Dreamcast and Wii versions look nearly identical. You’ll still get slowdown, jittery fish animations, and a very basic overall look. 480i and 4:3 only.

5.5 Sound
There’s a small package of VO, and the classic guitar riffs are still alive and well, but it’s very basic and arcade-inspired, and pretty dated as well.

6.5 Gameplay
Despite everything else, it’s still fun to play. More bass AI adds to the experience, even if just a bit, and the game still holds up pretty well after a decade.

5.5 Lasting Appeal
It’s fun while it lasts, but even at $30 it’s overpriced. Rent it, or wait for it to drop. Multiplayer and online are an absolute must at this point.

6.0
Passable OVERALL
(out of 10 / not an average)

Lobster
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(02-28-2008, 09:56 AM)
1UP gave the game a B-

I'll probably pick this up.
levious
That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
(02-29-2008, 05:00 PM)
this is actually a significant improvement on the DC original - despite what IGN claims, no way they look identical - it's like they completely disregard the sequel.

The water is especially improved although still looks a bit dated. Having three different sets of level to go through in arcade mode helps a great deal.
Colonel Mustard
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(02-29-2008, 05:06 PM)
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I think I'll be getting EA's Catch Of The Day instead of this. It actually looks like it's tailored for the Wii.
The Take Out Bandit
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DRAGGGUUULLLAAA!!!
(02-29-2008, 05:17 PM)
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Bah!

I was hoping for better control implementation or a specialized controller. Waggle is acceptable for casting, but not for reeling. >:|
levious
That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
(02-29-2008, 05:19 PM)

Originally Posted by The Take Out Bandit

Bah!

I was hoping for better control implementation or a specialized controller. Waggle is acceptable for casting, but not for reeling. >:|


I'm tempted to pick up that Hooked! controller shell from EB used, I think it's like 10 bucks.
Soroc
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(02-29-2008, 05:43 PM)
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5.0 Presentation
Nothing special here. Menus are slow and require additional loads, and the list of modes is still very small, including only Nature Mode as a newcomer.

5.0 Graphics
Dreamcast and Wii versions look nearly identical. You’ll still get slowdown, jittery fish animations, and a very basic overall look. 480i and 4:3 only.

5.5 Sound
There’s a small package of VO, and the classic guitar riffs are still alive and well, but it’s very basic and arcade-inspired, and pretty dated as well.

6.5 Gameplay
Despite everything else, it’s still fun to play. More bass AI adds to the experience, even if just a bit, and the game still holds up pretty well after a decade.

5.5 Lasting Appeal
It’s fun while it lasts, but even at $30 it’s overpriced. Rent it, or wait for it to drop. Multiplayer and online are an absolute must at this point.

6.0
Passable OVERALL
(out of 10 / not an average)

The bold is what kills this purchase for me, and its a real shame b/c I would of happily paid 30 dollars for this experience again :( No excuse, if it is going to be a nearly identical emulation of the engine with some new assets, throw it up on wiiware for much cheaper.
LAMBO
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(02-29-2008, 05:47 PM)
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I want Sega Marine fishing, not boring bass. Also a remake of the dreamcast fishing controller would be nice, it won't be as fun with the wiimote.
Gagaman
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(02-29-2008, 05:48 PM)
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They really should have made a Bass/Marine double pack like they are with HOTD 2+3. I most likely won't be buying this, might give iot a rental to see what the controls are like but I still own the Dreamcast games and controller so I don't see much point..
levious
That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
(02-29-2008, 05:50 PM)

Originally Posted by Gagaman

I most likely won't be buying this, might give iot a rental to see what the controls are like but I still own the Dreamcast games and controller so I don't see much point..


well, if you were a big fan of going through arcade mode repeatedly, this is like that but three times as big. There's three different four stage paths. Another change is that when you unlock a lure in arcade mode, it remains unlocked the next time you play through. More lures in arcade mode as well.
Count Dookkake
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(02-29-2008, 05:50 PM)
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I am loving this game.

Originally Posted by Shpeshal Ed

attempting to be pretentious doesn't become you

That's not pretentious.