Super Smash Brothers Brawl *SPOILERS**SPOILERS**SPOILERS*

[NeonZ]

The same could be said for a quite a few of the other characters though. In fact, I think if Ganondorf ever did have to engage in a bout of fisticuffs, that is exactley how he'd look.

But he doesn't engage in "fisticuffs". He's been shown twice wielding swords and one other time magic, so pure fists just don't fit.

Look at Zelda, she's never been shown engaged in close range combat in the Zelda series, but Smash makes her fight mostly by using magic, rather than simples punches and kicks, and that actually works.

[PunjabiPlaya]

So do we know what Toon Link's FS is yet?

EDIT: Nvm, I didn't see the post with everyone's FS' on the last page. >_<

[webrunner]

But he doesn't engage in "fisticuffs". He's been shown twice wielding swords and one other time magic, so pure fists just don't fit. Look at Zelda, she's never been shown engaged in close range combat in the Zelda series, but Smash actually makes her fight mostly by using magic, rather than simples punches and kicks, and that actually works.

Near the end of Wind Waker he beats the motherloving crap out of link with his bare hands. It was totally brutal

[Innotech]

can someone link me to videos of:

Young toon link gameplay (and Final smash if possible), Captain Falcon gameplay (and final smash), Olimar gameplay

This thread is just too big to find specific videos Im looking for.

[J_Sensei]

Haven't seen toon links.. ROB's was posted to Klodd's youtube at http://www.youtube.com/user/Klodd I think we have everyone but Toon Link... 1. Mario - Mario Finale huge fireball 2. Link - Triforce Slash - Hits one target with a combo with a finishing attack, other people can be caught up in the attack, but they get knocked away earlier (I saw this in a video, someone jumped into it and got knocked away) 3. Kirby - Cook - Everyone is sucked into a pot (there is a way to avoid it) and is shot out along with items 4. Pikachu - Volt Tackle - energy ball flying around, controllable 5. Fox - Landmaster!!! 6. Samus - beam shot - huge energy beam that removes her suit 6a. Zamus - Crystal flash - gives her suit back and does slight damage 7. Zelda/Sheik - Light Arrows - Horizontal beam. Different knockback direction depending on which form 8. Bowser - Giga Bowser - transforms into Giga Bowser 9. Donkey Kong - Bongos - damage in small area that grows if you time it right 10. Yoshi - Super Dragon - flies and shoots fireballs, controllable - from SMW 11. Peach - puts everyone to sleep and makes peaches fall 12. Ice Climbers - Glacier - huge ice glacier appears, only Ice Climbers have good traction on it 13. Ness - Homing version of PK Starstorm (unknown name) 14. Jigglypuff - Grows to humongous size, and then hits everyone touching her 15. Ganondorf - Transforms into TP Boar Ganon and rushes from where he started off the screen, hitting everyone in the way 16. Mr Game & Watch - Transforms into an octopus that you can move around. Tentacles get longer as time goes on 17. Captain Falcon - Gets into the Blue Falcon and hits everyone in a horizontal line from where he was when he did it 18. Falco - LANDMASTER!!!! 19. Marth - Critical Hit - dashes horizontally, instant KO, can hit multiple targets if they're all together 20. Toon Link - ?????? 21. Luigi - Dances and creates a slow-time bubble that also puts people to sleep. Luigi moves normally 22. Pit - Summons Palutena's Army 23. Wario - Wario Man 24. Ike - Great Aether - i've seen this Final Smash more than any others. Interestingly it takes the target to above the middle of the level regardless of where it is 25. Pokemon Trainer - Triple Finish 26. Diddy Kong - Goes crazy with the peanut gun and rocket pack 27. Meta Knight - Galaxia Darkness - Hits everyone close to him with a huge-knockback attack 28. Snake - Grenade Launcher 29. Lucas - PK Starstorm 30. Sonic - Super Sonic, works like Volt Tackle 31. King Dedede - Summons an army of waddle dees 32. Pikmin & Olimar - End of Day - Blasts off, leaving everyone else to be mauled by Bulborbs. When he lands, there's knockback 33. Lucario - KAMEHAMEHAAAAAA - well not really, goes above the level center and shoots out a beam that you can change the direction of 34. Wolf - LAAANNNNDDDDMAAASSSTTTEEERRRR!!!!!!!!!!1111 35. R.O.B. - Shoots a.. wierd energy vortex out of it's face, can move around and change it's direction and such to catch people in it. I dub it LASERFACE, which would be a good name for a band.

Thank you ^_^

[Dabookerman]

Any word on the third Metal Gear on Shadow Moses?

Any word on the third Metal Gear on Shadow Moses?

Any word on the third Metal Gear on Shadow Moses?

Any word on the third Metal Gear on Shadow Moses?

Any word on the third Metal Gear on Shadow Moses?

Any word on the third Metal Gear on Shadow Moses?

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[Leondexter]

Am I the only one that not only likes Ganondor's moveset, but also think it serves him well?

I don't know that I'd call it appropriate for the character, but I've always loved to play as Ganon. He's a real powerhouse, but not slow once you learn to use him properly. That gives a real advantage; people almost always underestimate Ganon's speed. It's very satisfying to beat a good Fox player using Ganon.

I've never liked Cpt. Falcon much. Despite Ganon's move set being derived from Falcon's, they couldn't be more different to play as.

All that said, I expected and was looking forward to a revamped move set for Ganondorf. Now I just hope they didn't weaken him with the revisions.

[Holy Order Sol]

But he doesn't engage in "fisticuffs". He's been shown twice wielding swords and one other time magic, so pure fists just don't fit.

He punched sages to death and bitch-slapped Zelda.

[Proven]

But he doesn't engage in "fisticuffs". He's been shown twice wielding swords and one other time magic, so pure fists just don't fit. Look at Zelda, she's never been shown engaged in close range combat in the Zelda series, but Smash makes her fight mostly by using magic, rather than simples punches and kicks, and that actually works.

But he does use magic. Magic powered punches and kicks. I mean, what do you think all that dark fire is for?

Serious now, I can see where you're getting at, but you're defining him by the sword. That's Link's job. Just because everyone in Hyrule uses a sword as a primary weapon (Even Zelda in Twilight Princess) doesn't really mean anything at all, simply because it's a medieval like fantasy. Hell, Gannondorf has always seemed like the kind of guy who'll train to become skilled in everything he does, hence the sword in other games. It doesn't mean he's a be all, end all swordsman.

[J_Sensei]

You know, I was thinking. This would have been the most rick rollable thread in the history of rick rolls. Thank god we're all decent people, or it could have been ugly. (And I suppose the threat of banning helps too, but still... can you imagine the evilness?)

[Proven]

You know, I was thinking. This would have been the most rick rollable thread in the history of rick rolls. Thank god we're all decent people, or it could have been ugly. (And I suppose the threat of banning helps too, but still... can you imagine the evilness?)

I'm quoting this post so it can't be changed. If anybody does a rick roll in this thread later, I want both the person who posted it, and you, to be banned. Simply because you put the idea in their mind.

[Fireblend]

I'm quoting this post so it can't be changed. If anybody does a rick roll in this thread later, I want both the person who posted it, and you, to be banned. Simply because you put the idea in their mind.

I was thinking the same thing. Actually, I think I did get rickroll'd at 4chan earlier... but I'd say the FAQ forum makes it clear this kind of jokes are ban-worthy.

[J_Sensei]

Oh, I don't want anyone to get rick rolled. I was just talking to my wife about it, and I was shocked that we have god knows how many links in this thread (I've been following it a LOOONG time) and everyone has been really cool. I think it's a testament to how much everyone here is trying to spread the love and knowledge of this game that we are all so very excited to play.

[HK-47]

Assuming 41 stages is for new stages only, I want... Mario: Delphino Island Mushroomy Kingdom Luigi's Mansion Doom Ship Mario Bros. Mario Galaxy Pokémon: Pokémon Stadium 2 Pokémon Field Mt. Coronet Zelda: Bridge of Eldin Ganon's Tower Great Sea Kirby: Bubbly Clouds Mt. Dedede Battleship Halberd Donkey Kong: Rumble Falls Gangplank Galleon Donkey Kong Metroid: Norfair Frigate Orpheon Star Fox: Lylat Cruise Asteroid Field Wario: WarioWare Yoshi: Yoshi's Island Animal Crossing: Smashville Fire Emblem: Castle Siege Fire Field F-Zero: Port Town Mother: New Pork City Fourside/Moonside Pikmin: Distant Planet Kid Icarus: Skyworld Ice Climber: The Summit Game & Watch: Game & Watch: Fire Metal Gear: Shadow Moses Island Sonic: Green Hill Zone Touch! Generations: PictoChat Electroplankton Meteos Smash: Battlefield Final Destination

Its all stages, we got two left to find out and one is most likely Green Greens

The other might be that History of Nintendo stage I keep hearing about

[Desperado]

Why does Wolf have a Landmaster?

[NeonZ]

Just because everyone in Hyrule uses a sword as a primary weapon (Even Zelda in Twilight Princess)

Not really. She's only shown wielding a sword, outside of official art, when she's possessed by Ganondorf.

Magic powered punches and kicks. I mean, what do you think all that dark fire is for?

Neutral A, Forward A (Air), Neutral A and the B moves, I think that's everything that uses some (visible) magic, not nearly enough. He still seems too physical.

It doesn't mean he's a be all, end all swordsman.

And I'm not saying that he is that, but the Smash Ganondorf is almost nothing like the real Ganondorf, moveset wise. No projectiles, no swords, no ground punch... I suppose the new kick and the grab attacks are kind of based on him, but it's still too little considering everything he has shown in the Zelda games.

Besides, he doesn't even have the right color for his magic (It's yellow or white/blueish, not purple... : /).

[Innotech]

Im still wanting to see either a video of captain falcons moveset or a picture proving his Final Smash. How was his FS determined? I havent seen photo evidence of it (I know thats what it is, but how was it found out is what Im askimng)

[J_Sensei]

Why does Wolf have a Landmaster?

Why not? Everyone else seems to have one.

[RagnarokX]

Why does Wolf have a Landmaster?

He stole it from Team Star Fox and took it to the Pay and Spray in Sector X.

[webrunner]

Im still wanting to see either a video of captain falcons moveset or a picture proving his Final Smash. How was his FS determined? I havent seen photo evidence of it (I know thats what it is, but how was it found out is what Im askimng)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI0hWkfjFJM

Edit:

Not really. She's only shown wielding a sword, outside of official art, when she's possessed by Ganondorf.

Actually there's a cutscene earlier where she drops it when her castle is first sieged

[Teasel]

ehy guys i found a video of snake having various codec conversation about the other character
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2191747
(there is a fox,foxhound joke here i believe)
anyone care to translate?

[J_Sensei]

ehy guys i found a video of snake having various codec conversation about the other character http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2191747 anyone care to translate?

If someone will toss it on youtube, I'll give it a shot later tonight... if it's not already done.

[AceBandage]

WAIT!
Meteos STAGE?
I demand a link or heads will roll!

[HK-47]

WAIT! Meteos STAGE? I demand a link or heads will roll!

Read would you, its just his fantasy list. >_>

[Insaniac]

pathetic, really, that there hasn't been one mention of Toon Link's FS. Srsly, the japanese need to get on this spoiler stuff better >.>

(hope he uses his windwaker)

[Innotech]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI0hWkfjFJM Edit: Actually there's a cutscene earlier where she drops it when her castle is first sieged

thanks much.

[AceBandage]

Read would you, its just his fantasy list. >_>

Truth be damned.
I still want a link.

[Mockingbird]

Read would you, its just his fantasy list. >_>

Yeah, plus Meteos isn't even a Nintendo IP. That would be a third party stage - and it'd be pretty damn funny if Meteos made it in over Mega Man.

[Proven]

Not really. She's only shown wielding a sword, outside of official art, when she's possessed by Ganondorf. Neutral A, Forward A (Air), Neutral A and the B moves, I think that's everything that uses some (visible) magic, not nearly enough. He still seems too physical. And I'm not saying that he is that, but the Smash Ganondorf is almost nothing like the real Ganondorf, moveset wise. No projectiles, no swords, no ground punch... I suppose the new kick and the grab attacks are kind of based on him, but it's still too little considering everything he has shown in the Zelda games. Besides, he doesn't even have the right color for his magic (It's yellow or white/blueish, not purple... : /).

webrunner beat me to it, but in one of the very, very early cutscenes (shortly after you become a Wolf), it shows Zelda holding a sword. She was prepared to fight, and had enough training that she was there with a sword. What does that tell you?

[HK-47]

Yeah, plus Meteos isn't even a Nintendo IP. That would be a third party stage - and it'd be pretty damn funny if Meteos made it in over Mega Man.

Sakurai directed Meteos

[GhettoGamer]

any word on that Taboo guy?

[Jiggy]

I can't wait to hear what Snake and whoever he ends up talking to have to say about Jigglypuff. >_>
Edit: Non-stealth edit, I don't even know the names of the MGS characters, but for the girl immediately saying Pikachu's cute. And I'd really like to know what they're saying about Mr. Game & Watch.

[SantaC]

so SSBB is first wii game to feature dual layer?

[Mockingbird]

Sakurai directed Meteos

I know. But it's still a third party.

so SSBB is first wii game to feature dual layer?

By it's loading times I'd say No More Heroes had it too =/ (though smash might be the first)

[HK-47]

Truth be damned. I still want a link.

List of stages (updated)

1. Delfino Plaza
2. Mushroomy Kingdom
3. Mario Bros.
4. Luigi's Mansion
5. Rainbow Ride
6. Mario Circuit
7. Bridge of Eldin
8. Great Sea
9. Hyrule Temple
10. Port Town
11. Big Blue
12. Rumble Falls
13. Warioware
14. Yoshi's Island (Brawl)
15. Yoshi's Island (Melee)
16. Smashville
17. Battlefield
18. Final Destination
19. Onett
20. New Pork City
21. Skyworld
22. Distant Planet
23. Pictochat
24. Electroplankton
25. Corneria
26. Lylat Cruise
27. Green Hill Zone
28. Shadow Moses Island
29. Castle Seige
30. Brinstar
31. Norfair
32. Frigate Orpheon
33. Pokemon Stadium 2
34. Spear Pillar
35. Battleship Halberd
36. The Summit
37. Pokemon Stadium
38. Jungle Garden
39. Game & Watch

39 so far

For a new page

[Insaniac]

whats spear pillar? Mt. Coronet?

[Mockingbird]

The stages in Brawl have pretty much been awesome so far. Can't wait to see the History of Nintendo stage.

[darkpaladinmfc]

I know. But it's still a third party. By it's loading times I'd say No More Heroes had it too =/ (though smash might be the first)

Brawl is the first, its creating alot of problems for some people too :(.

[Crushed]

Someone needs to translate the Snake Codec conversations. I can tell by all of the "wwww" comments that there's some funny stuff in there.

Otacon seems to freak out at Kirby, Mei Ling exclaims "kawaii!" at the sight of Pikachu and seems to... I guess she wants Snake to catch it for her and is all upset when he says he's not a Pokemon Trainer? I think he's really confused about how he's supposed to fight Game & Watch, since he's a two-dimensional character.

And finally, confusion about "Fox," "Star Fox," "Gray Fox," "FOX," and "FOX-HOUND."

[Teasel]

20 Minutes of coin launcher for the trophies whore like me
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2192148
you can see a mewtwo trophy at the end

[Kawaii]

whats spear pillar? Mt. Coronet?

Yes:

This level is a bi-level stage housing destructable parts. It features Dialga in the background, although Palkia is said to show up. The breakable bits will return with a time-warp and the stage is said shake diagonally on occassion

[Insaniac]

Brawl is the first, its creating alot of problems for some people too :(.

wut kind of problems?

[ggnoobIGN]

Things I want to know. Not sure if they've been revealed:
- ROB's FS
-Toon Link's FS
-Marth's FS
-Is Wolf a clone for sure?
-Video of green hill zone anywhere?
-Any list of confirmed masterpieces?

[Malfunky]

Things I want to know. Not sure if they've been revealed: - ROB's FS -Toon Link's FS -Marth's FS -Is Wolf a clone for sure? -Video of green hill zone anywhere? -Any list of confirmed masterpieces?

-Rob's FS
-Marth's FS
-Don't think we've seen Toon Link's FS.
-Wolf is a highly modified "clone". He has some very different moves. There doesn't seem to be any straight Dr. Mario-type clones in the game.
-Green Hill Zone
-Masterpiece menu

[Kawaii]

Things I want to know. Not sure if they've been revealed: - ROB's FS -Toon Link's FS -Marth's FS -Is Wolf a clone for sure? -Video of green hill zone anywhere? -Any list of confirmed masterpieces?

Marth Final smash:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehxL4VGAdGk

[HK-47]

Someone really needs to rip that rock version of the main theme from FD

[beelzebozo]

so how is the game for a straight up nintendo fan who was never really into smash bros. prior to this? worth it for the cool fan service?

[Iam Canadian]

any word on that Taboo guy?

I'd like to know, myself. Is he working for the Ancient Minister? Is he the Ancient Minister?

Then again, I might just want to wait for Brawl on this one.

[Innotech]

Im so glad they brought back the puffster.

I wish I could understand everything in those codecs.

[HK-47]

so how is the game for a straight up nintendo fan who was never really into smash bros. prior to this? worth it for the cool fan service?

From what we have seen? The music alone would be worth it for any nintendo fan. That how much fanservice is in the game