EA: No Burnout Paradise online for Xbox 360 Core, Arcade users

[carlosp]

I understand that you are currently having issues with the requirements for Burnout Paradise. I apologize for your situation, and the inconvenience that this causes you. The hard drive is needed to store temporary data when playing online as the data transferred from one console to another requires storage space greater than what the memory card can contain.

this is from EA support. I think it starts. I think some games wont be playable at all on those system in the future.

[Wes]

This doesn't sound like a good thing.

[Loudninja]

That does not sound good

[Psychotext]

Did they put that on the box? Because as much as I hate lawsuits, someone needs to screw them to the wall if they didn't.

[Tieno]

On one hand it's good that Criterion didn't hold back because of the core.

Although I wonder who has a core and gold too. Still a dumb situation.

[Culex]

So I guess this means no online titles for Wii ever again.

[carlosp]

On one hand it's good that Criterion didn't hold back because of the core. Although I wonder who has a core and gold too. Still a dumb situation.

i dont know about gold but core and aracde were sold like crazy in the states. I mean microsoft should be in trouble as well, they never told the buyers, that they buy a limited system.
EA could lawsuit Microsoft

So I guess this means no online titles for Wii ever again.

Well lastgen consoles need less data to be transfared, look at ps2 online games with only 8MB memorycard.

[Tieno]

i dont know about gold but core and aracde were sold like crazy in the states. I mean microsoft should be in trouble as well, they never told the buyers, that they buy a limited system. EA could lawsuit Microsoft

How can EA 'lawsuit' MS?

[disappeared]

Well ain't that something.

[Busty]

This was bound to happen sooner or later, but for it come from EA of all people is huge.

Not a MEGATON, but it's going to cause some friction all the same IMHO.

[DMPrince]

time for a 2gb memory card.

[TONX]

Does it say that on the box?

[nofi]

this is from EA support. I think it starts. I think some games wont be playable at all on those system in the future.

Or, right, couldn't they just buy a hard drive?

Or is that not the point of this thread?

[carlosp]

How can EA 'lawsuit' MS?

i am not a lawyer but somehow they could give the guilt back to Microsoft because as the seller of the core system they must say "Some games will not work on this system " and since they lied about it and sold a weak system they could get lawsuit.

[Costanza]

edit: i'm wrong.

[jon61586]

2 years and a half years late to the party I see.

[PepsimanVsJoe]

i am not a lawyer but somehow they could give the guilt back to Microsoft because as the seller of the core system they must say "Some games will not work on this system " and since they lied about it and sold a weak system they could get lawsuit.

...

[bluheim]

Did they put that on the box? Because as much as I hate lawsuits, someone needs to screw them to the wall if they didn't.

I'm pretty sure I have read it on the back of the box.

[methane47]

thas messed up

[gcubed]

if it doesnt say that on the box, this will turn pretty ugly

[solid2snake]

it begins...

[mr_bishiuk]

If MS are allowing this then this is good for those with HDs, any removing of restrictions on devs is good in my book.

Crappy for Core owners through buT i cant imagine there are too many on-line gamers with no Harddrives.

[Panajev2001a]

the data transferred from one console to another requires storage space greater than what the memory card can contain.

They need more than about 500 MB of data (considering the 512 MB memory card) for temporary data that is supposed to be uploaded from a console to other consoles online ?

I smell bullshit... or at least the explanation given by the EA rep is way too simplified...

[IronicallyTwisted]

Arcade users won't even be able to play some games in the future. Only a matter of time before this happened.

[PepsimanVsJoe]

Just curious but what's the source?

Actually nevermind I found one:

http://www.videogamer.com/news/30-01-2008-7383.html

Oh and sure enough:

"Online multiplayer 2-8/hard drive required" read the orange text on the second line of the game information on the rear of the case.

[supermackem]

Nithing new didnt crackdown require hdd to go online, and how can ea lawsuite ms lmao it does state it on the box too. Doubt there are many gamers with core gold and no hdd.

[Rlan]

They need more than about 500 MB of data (considering the 512 MB memory card) for temporary data that is supposed to be uploaded from a console to other consoles online ? I smell bullshit... or at least the explanation given by the EA rep is way too simplified...

You expect players to have a completely empty Memory Card just for Burnout to use for memory?

[kaching]

It took several days for GAF to discover this affront? I'd say that speaks to its prevalence.

[ThatHurt]

if it doesnt say that on the box, this will turn pretty ugly

It says it on the box.. in orange even

as for the source. 2 sec on google gets you

http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthr...t=98973&page=1

core users.. blah go out and get a hdd if you want to play online.

[Haunted]

Good, good. Cheap Core/Arcade users need to know their place.

[Vyse The Legend]

It says it on the box.. in orange even .

Nothing to see here, then. Lock this baby up.

[oldergamer]

This isn't anything new people. People that don't have a hard drive shouldn't be able to play these games online anyway. The game runs perfectly well in single player mode on a core system. Anyone that wants to play online should be purchasing a HD anyway.

[solid2snake]

Good, good. Cheap Core/Arcade users need to know their place.

maybe EA can bring a Burnout/HDD bundle for 199 dollar?

[Loudninja]

Nothing to see here, then. Lock this baby up.

That does not mean people read the box...

[Psychotext]

You expect players to have a completely empty Memory Card just for Burnout to use for memory?

You think Burnout is transferring 500mb of data in a game?

[carlosp]

It says it on the box.. in orange even as for the source. 2 sec on google gets you http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthr...t=98973&page=1 core users.. blah go out and get a hdd if you want to play online.

no pictures, no proof

[Vyse The Legend]

That does not mean people read the box...

So, it's EA's fault that people don't read?

[Haunted]

That does not mean people read the box...

Moore.notmyproblem.gif

Their mistake.

[Iron_Scimitar]

Consumers that bought the Core/Arcade probably dont care about anything other and Uno and SceneIT.

[Loudninja]

So, it's EA's fault that people don't read?

No its not.

[cedric69]

it begins...

I hope this will soon become a bannable meme. It's really tiresome.

On to the subject at hand: this sucks, plain and simple. Now real reasons start to surface to call the Core the 'tard pack.

If this happens more often it potentially could ruin MS strategy.

[Shiggy]

It says "hard-drive required" on the PAL boxart.

[carlosp]

I hope this will soon become a bannable meme. It's really tiresome. On to the subject at hand: this sucks, plain and simple. Now real reasons start to surface to call the Core the 'tard pack. If this happens more often it potentially could ruin MS strategy.

you see any way to solve this problem? I mean this time it is only online but soon some games will need the HDD for the high restextures and stuff, what should they do then? PS3 Version, X360 HDD version and low def X360 non HDD version?

[Kestastrophe]

I don't think this would be that big a deal if MS charged a reasonable price for a HDD. $100 for 20GB is ridiculous, especially since its over 2 years since launch.

[Panajev2001a]

You expect players to have a completely empty Memory Card just for Burnout to use for memory?

I'd give them the option of doing just that instead of forcing them to buy an HDD for the Xbox 360.

[gkrykewy]

i am not a lawyer but somehow they could give the guilt back to Microsoft because as the seller of the core system they must say "Some games will not work on this system " and since they lied about it and sold a weak system they could get lawsuit.

NEOFAQQQQQS

[Busty]

*sets trap*

How could Peter Moore allow this to happen?

And now to play... the waiting game.

[Panajev2001a]

I don't think this would be that big a deal if MS charged a reasonable price for a HDD. $100 for 20GB is ridiculous, especially since its over 2 years since launch.

Especially when you can get 250 GB 2.5'' SATA drives for 159 Euros and they sell the 120 GB HDD for 179 Euros (add 20 Euros for the custom encasing a normal SATA drive would need to work on the Xbo 360 [] and you still are paying a LOT more than you should per GB of storage).

[cedric69]

you see any way to solve this problem? I mean this time it is only online but soon some games will need the HDD for the high restextures and stuff, what should they do then? PS3 Version, X360 HDD version and low def X360 non HDD version?

As others are suggesting, the only real direction to take is, probably, to drastically reduce the price on the basic 20GB unit.

[pswii60]

i am not a lawyer but somehow they could give the guilt back to Microsoft because as the seller of the core system they must say "Some games will not work on this system " and since they lied about it and sold a weak system they could get lawsuit.

What fuck the speak bullshit talk you?