Could Starcraft 2 on PS3 be a big success?

DenogginizerOS · (01-31-2008, 02:16 PM)

Since the PS3 comes standard with a hard drive, has keyboard/mouse support, is online ready, and has an open architecture for online, do you think Starcraft 2 could be a big success for PS3 as long as it is identical to the PC version and comes out on the same day? The package could include a custom mouse and keyboard that has a Starcraft 2 theme. Considering the success of games like Guitar Hero and Rock Band that charge more for an accessory that works with the game, I would think this would be perfectly feasible. You could also sell a cheaper version that does not include the KB and Mouse for those that already have these. Blizzard and Sony could set it up so one could compete with PC players as well as other PS3 players. Blizzard is certainly capable and has the resources to do it. I wonder if Sony could throw some advertising money their way and make a deal. I, for one, would buy this day one and I know a few on this board who would do the same.

Darji · (01-31-2008, 02:20 PM)

Originally Posted by DenogginizerOS:

Since the PS3 comes standard with a hard drive, has keyboard/mouse support, is online ready, and has an open architecture for online, do you think Starcraft 2 could be a big success for PS3 as long as it is identical to the PC version and comes out on the same day? The package could include a custom mouse and keyboard that has a Starcraft 2 theme. Considering the success of games like Guitar Hero and Rock Band that charge more for an accessory that works with the game, I would think this would be perfectly feasible. You could also sell a cheaper version that does not include the KB and Mouse for those that already have these. Blizzard and Sony could set it up so one could compete with PC players as well as other PS3 players. Blizzard is certainly capable and has the resources to do it. I wonder if Sony could throw some advertising money their way and make a deal. I, for one, would buy this day one and I know a few on this board who would do the same.

No the only way to play this god game is on the PC.

Everyone who wants to play it on consoles should die a terrible death.

Dorfdad · (01-31-2008, 02:20 PM)

could it not? Anything with the Starcraft name at this point would sell a million copies on hype alone.

Problem is most gamers will not hook up keyboard to the PS3 as it's just not convenient. If they could remake the controls for the PS3 it would be good, but look at Command and Conquer and Lord of the rings RTS games on the 360.. They would have to sacrifice alot to make it accessible to everyone..

Borys · (01-31-2008, 02:21 PM)

Jesus

This generation is unbearable for the PC fans with all the rabid console guys running around.

NEVER GONNA HAPPEN, Denogg

HK-47 · (01-31-2008, 02:21 PM)

Not could, more like should

Prime crotch · (01-31-2008, 02:22 PM)

Not happening anyway, but I doubt it if it did. It's not really pushing the graphics like other RTS and do RTS on consoles even sell that well?

farnham · (01-31-2008, 02:23 PM)

yeah an RTS... a genre that normally is really unpopular on consoles is likely to come to the least popular console this gen... and its likely to sell millions on that platform..

uh... was this announced or something..?

Crushed · (01-31-2008, 02:23 PM)

Let's talk about how it should go to the Wii instead, for Superior Immersion(TM).

disappeared · (01-31-2008, 02:23 PM)

Two PC & console threads within hours of each other.

krypt0nian · (01-31-2008, 02:23 PM)

Originally Posted by HK-47:

Not could, more like should

Amen. Money left on the table otherwise.

Wollan · (01-31-2008, 02:25 PM)

Sony should make a God of War rts.

Anyways..

Diablo 3 PC/PS3/X360 should be good.

Lonesome_Raod · (01-31-2008, 02:25 PM)

Guys at least let the pc players have a couple of exclusives.

Prime crotch · (01-31-2008, 02:25 PM)

Originally Posted by Lonesome_Raod:

Guys at least let the pc players have a couple of exclusives.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it's off

DenogginizerOS · (01-31-2008, 02:25 PM)

Originally Posted by Borys:

Jesus

This generation is unbearable for the PC fans with all the rabid console guys running around.

NEVER GONNA HAPPEN, Denogg

I have a PC that could run SC2. I don't think a PS3 version of this game could hurt the game at all or damage its PC fanbase. This has nothing to do with "rabid console fans" trying to take away SC2. This is about Blizzard opening up new market streams and making even more money. Since Activision has already proven that a game like Guitar Hero can sell well at a higher price point with a game specific accessory, maybe they could do like I suggested and sell a version of SC2 with a KB/M.

Xater · (01-31-2008, 02:26 PM)

Mouse & Keyboard support on PS3 and I would not buy it for my Mac.

Loudninja · (01-31-2008, 02:26 PM)

Originally Posted by Lonesome_Raod:

Guys at least let the pc players have a couple of exclusives.

They got Big Rigs damn..

Leonsito · (01-31-2008, 02:26 PM)

PepsimanVsJoe · (01-31-2008, 02:27 PM)

It sounds like a waste of time and resources.

830920 · (01-31-2008, 02:27 PM)

No need to ruin Starcraft 2 by making a dumb console port.

Tieno · (01-31-2008, 02:28 PM)

Blizzard makes games for their Blizzard player (the pc)

Spoit · (01-31-2008, 02:29 PM)

Not only is the idea absurd to begin with, but why in the world would they take it to the PS3 over the 360? Even if it does have kb&m support, there's nowhere near the market that would be able to figure it out (plug into the usb port?) to make it anywhere near worth the investment.

DenogginizerOS · (01-31-2008, 02:32 PM)

Originally Posted by Spoit:

Not only is the idea absurd to begin with, but why in the world would they take it to the PS3 over the 360? Even if it does have kb&m support, there's nowhere near the market that would be able to figure it out (plug into the usb port?) to make it anywhere near worth the investment.

The open architecture of PSN would certainly make it easier than Xbox Live. Plus, having a hard drive standard would make it possible to load a lot of assets onto the PS3 to help the game run better.

DieH@rd · (01-31-2008, 02:32 PM)

Originally Posted by Wollan:

Diablo 3 PC/PS3/X360 should be good.

That could work...

Borys · (01-31-2008, 02:32 PM)

Originally Posted by DenogginizerOS:

I have a PC that could run SC2. I don't think a PS3 version of this game could hurt the game at all or damage its PC fanbase. This has nothing to do with "rabid console fans" trying to take away SC2. This is about Blizzard opening up new market streams and making even more money. Since Activision has already proven that a game like Guitar Hero can sell well at a higher price point with a game specific accessory, maybe they could do like I suggested and sell a version of SC2 with a KB/M.

SC2 just won't happen on a console, Blizzard admitted that time and time again.

You would make a much better point with your thread using Diablo 3 for example. That game is a lock-on for consoles.

Alex · (01-31-2008, 02:33 PM)

I wouldn't hold my breath.

Belgorim · (01-31-2008, 02:33 PM)

wtf, no

buy a PC.

Tieno · (01-31-2008, 02:33 PM)

Originally Posted by DenogginizerOS:

The open architecture of PSN would certainly make it easier than Xbox Live. Plus, having a hard drive standard would make it possible to load a lot of assets onto the PS3 to help the game run better.

While I follow your 'open PSN' point, specs wise why would SC2 be a demanding game?

Originally Posted by Borys:

SC2 just won't happen on a console, Blizzard admitted that time and time again.

You would make a much better point with your thread using Diablo 3 for example. That game is a lock-on for consoles.

Why?

Xater · (01-31-2008, 02:34 PM)

Originally Posted by Tieno:

Blizzard makes games for their Blizzard player (the Mac)

fixed

Borys · (01-31-2008, 02:35 PM)

Originally Posted by Tieno:

Why?

1) PC fanbase is buys playing WoW.
2) PC fanbase will be even busier playing SC2.
3) Activision.

DenogginizerOS · (01-31-2008, 02:35 PM)

Originally Posted by Borys:

SC2 just won't happen on a console, Blizzard admitted that time and time again.

You would make a much better point with your thread using Diablo 3 for example. That game is a lock-on for consoles.

I agree that Diablo 3 would be a lock-on. I also think that SC2 could be a success. How hard would it be to make SC2 run on PS3? What are the limitations? Is it RAM? Why is Blizzard dead-set against a console version as you say?

Wollan · (01-31-2008, 02:36 PM)

Originally Posted by Tieno:

Why?

Why not? At least, technically speaking. It's not a problem from either a hardware or control perspective.

Draft · (01-31-2008, 02:37 PM)

Originally Posted by DenogginizerOS:

The open architecture of PSN would certainly make it easier than Xbox Live. Plus, having a hard drive standard would make it possible to load a lot of assets onto the PS3 to help the game run better.

Open

PSN may be free but it's about as open as a nun's thighs.

DenogginizerOS · (01-31-2008, 02:37 PM)

Originally Posted by Tieno:

While I follow your 'open PSN' point, specs wise why would SC2 be a demanding game?

I would think it would be easier to work with PSN since it is more like what a PC uses than say Xbox Live which is more unique and is run by MS. I think Blizzard would like to keep total control of their servers and how people access it.

Alex · (01-31-2008, 02:37 PM)

Originally Posted by Wollan:

Why not? At least, technically speaking. It's not a problem from either a hardware or control perspective.

Because it's a waste of their time, and they wouldn't want to outsource it. Same reasons they turned down all the money MS was trying to throw at them for WoW 360.

Wollan · (01-31-2008, 02:39 PM)

They have a internal console division and sales wise it would be a pretty big reason. /Diablo 3

Borys · (01-31-2008, 02:39 PM)

Originally Posted by DenogginizerOS:

I agree that Diablo 3 would be a lock-on. I also think that SC2 could be a success. How hard would it be to make SC2 run on PS3? What are the limitations? Is it RAM? Why is Blizzard dead-set against a console version as you say?

There are no tech limitations, absolutely none. I'd bet even Xbox 1 would be able to run a console port of SC2. It's just Blizzard philosophy and that they were caught too far in the development of SC2 with Activision buyout. SC2 is just designed for PCs and with PCs in mind. It would take too much work to rethink it as a viable console title and then recode it.

Metalmurphy · (01-31-2008, 02:40 PM)

Only way this would happen is if they forced keyboard/mouse support. And they won't cause that'll limit the user base to 5%

Davidion · (01-31-2008, 02:40 PM)

RTS on a console.

I think this has nothing to do with graphics capabilities and everything to do with controls...as in a control pad just doesn't have enough buttons . Though I could potentially see some dev doing something really creative with the control schemes. It could be interesting.

Draft · (01-31-2008, 02:41 PM)

Originally Posted by Wollan:

They have a internal console division and sales wise it would be a pretty big reason.

they don't as of about 2 years ago.

Metalmurphy · (01-31-2008, 02:41 PM)

Originally Posted by Davidion:

RTS on a console.

I think this has nothing to do with graphics capabilities and everything to do with controls. Though I could potentially see some dev doing something really creative with the control schemes. It could be interesting.

Well... the PS3 does support mouse and keyboard.

Spoit · (01-31-2008, 02:41 PM)

Why not? 1 simple reason: SC64.

dallow_bg · (01-31-2008, 02:42 PM)

They'll port SC2 to the N64 again.

BradVanDam · (01-31-2008, 02:42 PM)

only if it uses mouse and keyboard i'd hate to use those horrid triggers for the game.

Wollan · (01-31-2008, 02:43 PM)

Originally Posted by Draft:

they don't as of about 2 years ago.

Well, these things are quite vague. I personally wouldn't be surprised to see Diablo 3 end up on PC/PS3/X360. I just don't see a single reason for against it.

greendublin · (01-31-2008, 02:43 PM)

kb/mouse and count me in. Would buy! Do!

Sho_Nuff82 · (01-31-2008, 02:43 PM)

Originally Posted by Borys:

There are no tech limitations, absolutely none. I'd bet even Xbox 1 would be able to run a console port of SC2. It's just Blizzard philosophy and that they were caught too far in the development of SC2 with Activision buyout. SC2 is just designed for PCs and with PCs in mind. It would take too much work to rethink it as a viable console title and then recode it.

But if a console already allowed you to use a mouse and kb (a la the PS3), what could possibly be the problem?

There's no real reason to not make a console version if it can run on consoles without sacrifices, other than Blizz simply not wanting to.

Originally Posted by Spoit:

Why not? 1 simple reason: SC64.

This game was fun, despite the graphical sacrifices.

DenogginizerOS · (01-31-2008, 02:44 PM)

Originally Posted by Borys:

There are no tech limitations, absolutely none. I'd bet even Xbox 1 would be able to run a console port of SC2. It's just Blizzard philosophy and that they were caught too far in the development of SC2 with Activision buyout. SC2 is just designed for PCs and with PCs in mind. It would take too much of a work to rethink it as a viable console title.

Setting that aside, speaking purely as a hypothetical. If Blizzard made a custom keyboard and mouse that had all the labels on it for Starcraft 2, sold it with the game, advertised with Sony's help, allowed competition between PS3 and PC players, and had it running as well as a solid PC would run it, do you think it would sell? With Microsoft struggling to promote Games for Windows and Live for PC, Sony could much more gracefully team up with Blizzard and without needing a new operating system for your PC or ridiculous upgrades, they could open a door where PC gamers and PS3 players from around the world could play SC2 together.

Shins · (01-31-2008, 02:45 PM)

Originally Posted by Sho_Nuff82:

other than Blizz simply not wanting to.

Ding Ding Ding

ram · (01-31-2008, 02:45 PM)

Originally Posted by Borys:

This generation is unbearable for the PC fans with all the rabid console guys running around.

didnt you get the memo? pc gaming is dead....

...since 2001

and btw. back in the day, when the first starcraft game was released, i remember, how low its sales were - just because so many PC FANS just pirated the game. wouldnt be surprised, if a console port isnt an option to activision vivendi.

Draft · (01-31-2008, 02:45 PM)

Originally Posted by Wollan:

Well, these things are quite vague. I personally wouldn't be surprised to see Diablo 3 end up on PC/PS3/X360. I just don't see a single reason for against it.

There is nothing vague about it. They bought Swinging Ape Studios, renamed them Blizzard Console, put them to work on Ghost, and then folded the studio when things didn't go well. Many of the Swinging Ape people were moved to other parts of Blizzard. They may in fact be fucking around with console stuff as we speak. But there is no dedicated console team at Blizzard.