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(10-02-2008, 02:26 AM)
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#2151
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Prince's's 'Skittle's
(10-03-2008, 01:48 PM)
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#2152
So what are the best WiiWare games out there? So far I've bought Star Solider R (awesome), Gyrostarr (disappointing), Mega Man 9 (good) and Art Style: Orbient (awesome). I wish there were demos for everything (or anything, to be honest), I've been spoiled by the Xbox Live Arcade. How is Protöthea in particular?
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(10-03-2008, 01:53 PM)
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#2153
Originally Posted by Princess Skittles:
Can't comment on Protöthea, it's supposedly rubbish. I wish they had demos too. |
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(10-03-2008, 02:08 PM)
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#2154
Originally Posted by Princess Skittles:
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30% Failure Rate
(10-04-2008, 03:23 AM)
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#2155
Haven't seen it mentioned here yet.
World of Goo set for Oct 13 in NA. 1500 Wii points. PC version is $20, releases on the same day. http://www.2dboy.com Rock Paper Shotgun has the first review:
Originally Posted by John Walker (Rock Paper Shotgun):
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30% Failure Rate
(10-04-2008, 03:00 PM)
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#2156
Looks like MadStone will be the WiiWare release this week.
http://www.wiiware-world.com/news/20...ware_on_monday |
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(10-04-2008, 03:57 PM)
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#2157
Japanese Wiiware line-up as revealed at the latest Nintendo event :
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http://plusd.itmedia.co.jp/games/art...news126_3.html A few familiar names in there... Anyway, that's a decent amount of games, though I'm not really sure how interesting most of these will even turn out to be... Guess we will see what the upcoming TGS brings this service in term of support from Japanese companies. Last edited by Stormbringer : 10-05-2008 at 09:07 PM. |
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(10-04-2008, 04:25 PM)
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#2162
Originally Posted by Princess Skittles:
You really should play Lost Winds and Toki Tori. Especially Toki Tori. |
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(10-04-2008, 06:10 PM)
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#2165
It seems like Nintendo wasn't lying when they announced that over 100 Wiiware titles were in development. The list of already released and previous announced Wiiware titles on wikipedia is at around 60 titles, and this list adds over 20 more new titles. Add in the fact that Nintendo has a few more titles up its sleeve (the other two Art Style games coming out this month, plus whatever other secrets they have), and Wiiware is turning out to be filling up very, very fast. Its only a matter of time until there are more titles available on the VC/Wiiware than in retail.
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(10-04-2008, 06:14 PM)
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#2166
WiiWare has been great so far, but...
Where is Alien Crush Returns??? |
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(10-04-2008, 06:16 PM)
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#2167
Originally Posted by Count Dookkake:
This ^^ |
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(10-04-2008, 06:25 PM)
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#2168
Originally Posted by Ranger X:
Alien Crush Returns already came out in Japan.
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Gust's games supposedly have great music, right? Should be interesting.
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I like the sound of that.
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Most of these will probably be garbage casual/non-games given their non-shmup output, but I hope at least one is a shmup. Colorful Bridge might be interesting. It certainly sounds better than a hula game. I'm surprised SE doesn't have any upcoming games after their early support with FFCCMLaaK. Last edited by leroy hacker : 10-04-2008 at 06:42 PM. |
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(10-04-2008, 06:38 PM)
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#2169
Well i want Alien Crush in NA
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(10-04-2008, 06:58 PM)
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#2170
MADSECTA sounds like a GotY candidate. The title alone makes it a must have.
Anyway, NIS, Gust and Game Arts are developing for Wii, yet not even one of the games seems to be an RPG judging by the titles. Aren't those developers famous for their RPGs? I actually thought NIS and Gust develop nothing but RPGs? Granted, I'm not a fan, so I wouldn't know - and their websites aren't really all that helpful, either... |
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Accept Him, your LORD David Bowie and He shall set you free. Go forth, my son and spread His androgynous teachings to all. For the LORD David Bowie loved the world so much, He graced His image upon all things.
(10-05-2008, 06:07 AM)
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#2174
Originally Posted by Wheeliedude:
Strong Bad. |
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baby dolphin -> sun
it's the only way (10-05-2008, 06:19 AM)
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#2175
Originally Posted by Wheeliedude:
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(10-05-2008, 06:31 AM)
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#2176
is bomberman worth picking up? smooth online play? anyone on gaf still play?
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(10-05-2008, 09:02 AM)
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#2178
When is Space Invaders Get Even supposed to launch on the European WiiWare?
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Will learn to properly capitalise or face certain death.
(10-05-2008, 07:42 PM)
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#2181
Man, I don't know half of what franchises those new games belong to! Can you help with that Storm?
One of particular interest, is Sims' (Fishing games, Tails Sky Patrol) is making "Derby Dog", what the fuck? A dog racing game perhaps? Also, I hope the better of those games will get Wii retail sequels. This is my main criticism of WiiWare: If a game you see looks really good, you can't help but wish it was retail so it can take full advantage of the Wii without worrying about the memory limitations! But yeah, games like Bubble Bobble do make more sense on WiiWare. :P Games like the Klonoa remake, belong on retail more than WiiWare in my opinion. And thank god it's so!  Last edited by Hero of Legend : 10-05-2008 at 07:46 PM. |
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(10-05-2008, 09:04 PM)
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#2184
Originally Posted by Hero of legend:
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D3 : - Simple series vol.1 : THE Block kuzushi neo - Simple series vol.2 : THE Number PUzzle neo - Simple series vol.3 : THE Mah-jongg - Simple series vol.4 : THE Judo -> THE Block Kuzushi is actually an Arkanoid clone. THE NUmber Puzzle sounds like some Sudoku clone. Kotobuki Solution - Sorcery Blade - 3°C -> Sorcery Blade is originally a mobile RPG series. No idea about the other one. By the way, Kotobuki Solution is also known as Kemco, which is a subsidiary of this company. Librica : - Manga On -> This is a series of interactive mangas published by some big names of the Japanese manga publishing industry. Cable Entertainment : -Kappa-kun de Asobou (Kappa-kun no Ota no Shimikai) -> Some edutainment software. This is the second episode of the Kappa-kun series that's coming to the Japanese Wiiware. EA : - Saikyou Ginsei Mah-Jongg - Saikyou Ginsei Gomoku Narabe -> The Gomoku Narabe seems like a variant of the Go game. Last edited by Stormbringer : 10-05-2008 at 09:20 PM. |
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Will learn to properly capitalise or face certain death.
(10-05-2008, 09:16 PM)
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#2185
Thanks Storm!
Big heads up, I found this article: http://plusd.itmedia.co.jp/games/art...news126_3.html It shows estimated dates for all of those WiiWare games! |
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listen to the madman
(10-05-2008, 09:43 PM)
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#2186
I know one of WiiWare's strengths is that there's nominally no concept approval stage like Microsoft's, but... if Japanese devs are planning on releasing 200 card/board games and low-grade 400 point XBLA stuff every year until the Wii dies, Nintendo's really gotta try to reign things in.
Originally I was hoping that Nintendo's price controls would have stopped this sort of thing. Dev pitches shitty Mahjong game, Nintendo says "okay we'll put it up for 200 points", dev rethinks pitch. Some people might tell me that I should let the marketplace of ideas take over, but that's bogus. Nintendo's shop interface is sufficiently bad that the shit doesn't sink and the gold doesn't float. Moreover, with storage concerns being what they are people are even less likely to delve into the "backlog" of available titles and pick that stuff up. Also, D3 has some branding issues. They now have 3 sets of Simple Series games on the Wii. They did a half-dozen Simple Series games. All tanked even relative to D3's very modest expectations. Then they did Simple 2000 which has two installments. Now they're moving on to Simple Series WiiWare. Clearly the strategy is not working. Great to hear Game Arts working on stuff and while I can hardly congratulate Taito for doing their 3943957459th version of Bubble Bobble and Rainbow Islands, at least those should be moderately enjoyable. |
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(10-05-2008, 09:50 PM)
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#2187
Originally Posted by Wheeliedude:
Take Orbient unless you really really like Strong Bad stuff. I mean, Orbient simply is genius. |
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I AM A STALKER - DON'T TELL ME PERSONAL SHIT ABOUT YOU
(10-07-2008, 10:44 AM)
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#2188
So in the non-WiiWare thread earlier a few of us were hoping Midnight Bowling would be a decent alternative to Wii Sports Bowling. However, it sounds like IGN thinks not.
Originally Posted by Craig Harris:
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(10-07-2008, 10:57 AM)
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#2189
Originally Posted by Stormbringer:
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(10-07-2008, 12:16 PM)
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#2191
Originally Posted by farnham:
From the list above:
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The title is all we know. They developed SSBB, but more notably they've been making RPGs since the 1980s, including the Lunar and Grandia series. |
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(10-07-2008, 12:49 PM)
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#2193
Originally Posted by Stumpokapow:
DS is like, the strongest console ever in Japan or whatever, right? Go take a look at the Japanese gamestore shelves and you'll see an *enormous* amount of basic and low grade games at half-to-full price. I think they've decided that it's a good thing to let people decide the value of things for themselves.
Originally Posted by Stumpokapow:
I disagree with this. I always go via 'most popular' first, then 'most recent'. And using Minna no nintendo channel you can browse the games and jump straight to the shop to buy them. It's by no means perfect, and it's far too slow, but it's very good at letting the popular games shine through. Plus, the people interested in the 'gamer' style games usually already know what they want before they get to the shop. The only exception to this for me has been 'aero guitar' which I still can't decide if I want. A good case study would be the EA/Nintendo clash for Japanese table games. EA have released Shogi, Go and Chess at 500 points each. Nintendo have released Shogi, Go and now Chess for 1000 points each. The Nintendo efforts are significantly more polished and involve net play, but they cost more and came out later. It'd be really interesting to see the sales for each. That way we'd be able to see the importance of 'first to market', brand loyalty, series loyalty (the EA games all share the same interface), and cost. |
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listen to the madman
(10-07-2008, 01:47 PM)
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#2194
Originally Posted by swerve:
Right, and in a world where there's infinite space and all titles have an equal chance to shine, a marketplace of ideas works. The problem is I think retail fulfills that ideal a little bit better. For one thing, we have no idea if WiiWare has a mechanism for price drops. In retail, the retailer orders the games in advance, pays the dev/pub, and pricedrops to clear unsold inventory. Whether or not they order again is a sort of dynamic thing. On WiiWare, if a game doesn't sell it's not clear that Nintendo will price drop it or if the devs will get nothing as a result of their game being mispriced or not good enough initially.
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Minna no Nintendo goes a long way to help alleviate the problem I'm talking about. Like I said, there's nothing conceptually wrong with the idea of letting anyone release anything, but I just don't think it's well implemented right now. Say I want a puzzle game. I browse by genre. I see Toki Tori, Groovin' Blocks, Gyrostarr, Block Breaker Deluxe, Potpourri, Plachttenene, yadda yadda yadda. There are no demos. So as a consumer, I have to go and research everything to make a decision. This makes the trying out of things very hard. on XBLA I get to download demos so I can get all of them and decide from there. There's no user rating. If I buy a game I don't like, I can't sell it back like I can at retail. Most Popular is fine in that most of the stuff under Most Popular is pretty good. I can't complain about that. The problem is for the good stuff that's not popular, they are disadvantaged more and more because people who are just getting on the service will never dive that far deep in the backlog.
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I don't think there's anything wrong with this sort of thing except that two years from now if D3, EA, Nintendo, and, say, Yuke's all have Shogi, Go, and Chess, it's hard for me to easily figure out which is the one worth trying and in the mean time that's 12 entries on the per-genre list so other stuff in the same board/classic/card/tile genre will be stomped out. If Nintendo had mandatory demos, integrated Minna no Nintendo into the shop and expanded it substantially, and had an obvious mechanism for discounting or bundling games, it'd go a very long way to solve library presentation issues. I just think as-is they're severe enough that library control would be better than doing nothing. |
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(10-11-2008, 01:42 AM)
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#2199
World of Goo for Wii has been reviewed by IGN. Final score - 9.5.
Originally Posted by IGN:
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(10-11-2008, 01:45 AM)
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#2200
Originally Posted by splattergnome:
Holy CRAP!!! :O Eurogamer also gave 9/10 and said nothing but fantastic things about it... man, after the greatness that was Orbient and now this... |
