Scammer asks: Do you still own a Dreamcast?

[Haunted]

Hopes and dreams of Sega fans all over the world crushed again. So cruel.

[Skilotonn]

Well I'm glad that my hate for signing up for stuff has paid off... what a bastard...

And I think the fact that Sega themselves let Dreamcast.com die says plenty for those still dreaming about a rebirth... I mean, I love my DC to death, but come on...

[Sega1991]

I'm still not sure that this is a scam. The domain is still registered for Sega of Japan; it was renewed in 2005 and expires in three months.

If this was the result of a hack or a scam or something, Sega would've nipped it in the butt by now, because that means somebody would've hijacked the domain while they were still in possession of it. If it was a routing issue (something out of their control), they should've issued a statement by now; a lot of sites reported on this.

Who cares where the servers are hosted? That has little baring on the situation; what's important is that Sega still owns the domain and it's pointing to those servers and in three days it has not changed. If this was a scam, that's enough time for Sega to have done something to make sure its customers were not being mislead.

[My6cats]

I'm still not sure that this is a scam. The domain is still registered for Sega of Japan; it was renewed in 2005 and expires in three months. If this was this was the result of a hack or a scam or something, Sega would've nipped it in the butt by now, because that means somebody would've hijacked the domain while they were still in possession of it. If it was a routing issue (something out of their control), they should've issued a statement by now; a lot of sites reported on this. Who cares where the servers are hosted? That has little baring on the situation; what's important is that Sega still owns the domain and it's pointing to those servers and in three days it has not changed. If this was a scam, that's enough time for Sega to have done something to make sure its customers were not being mislead.

Why should Sega care if the customers of a dead video game system are bing mislead. The system is Dead and Sega not getting any money from them, unless they are buying thier new games, which by the sales of many of thier games, they are not. People act like Sega cares for them, and wants to make them happy. If the Dreamcast was alive and well ..then yes Sega would be concerned, but the system is DEAD. We all need to move on.

[Sega1991]

Why should Sega care if the customers of a dead video game system are bing mislead. The system is Dead and Sega not getting any money from them, unless they are buying thier new games, which by the sales of many of thier games, they are not. People act like Sega cares for them, and wants to make them happy. If the Dreamcast was alive and well ..then yes Sega would be concerned, but the system is DEAD. We all need to move on.

Are you an idiot or something? It doesn't matter if the system is dead or not. Somebody is using their trademarks and their logos for potentially illegal activities. That in itself is motivation enough to put an end to this, regardless of the status of the console itself.

Imagine you are a business and you find a meth lab is operating out of your old office building. Are you going to let that happen? You don't use that building anymore. Of course not! That's stupid!

[Dot50Cal]

Report the site
http://wdprs.internic.net/

Its false info, since this guy clearly isn't Sega. You can enter anything into those fields, and if you get a URL like dreamcast.com its fairly easy to deceive people.

[Sega1991]

Well, nevermind.

Though how are they claiming Sega doesn't own the domain anymore? Faking the whois info... would be... illegal, wouldn't it? Wouldn't Sega have stopped that three years ago when the domain was renewed?

[Struct09]

Wow, can't believe that I didn't fall for this one

[lupinko]

Well, nevermind. Though how are they claiming Sega doesn't own the domain anymore? Faking the whois info... would be... illegal, wouldn't it? Wouldn't Sega have stopped that three years ago when the domain was renewed?

Great, I'm fucked. =/

Although I didn't log in, but I gave them my email. =(

This is what I get for trusting the Sega name. =(

EDIT: But I did use a different password, so if they are going to try stuff then they are screwed.

[Lost Fragment]

Well, nevermind. Though how are they claiming Sega doesn't own the domain anymore? Faking the whois info... would be... illegal, wouldn't it? Wouldn't Sega have stopped that three years ago when the domain was renewed?

If they didn't care enough to renew the domain registration, I bet they didn't care enough to check if someone ganked it.

[Diablos]

Katana would have been a much better name.

[Sega1991]

If they didn't care enough to renew the domain registration, I bet they didn't care enough to check if someone ganked it.

Yeah but it's not that they don't care that somebody ganked it, it's the fact that the person who ganked it is, according to Whois.com, faking Sega of Japan's credentials. Because all info on the domain points to it still being owned by Sega of Japan.

And that just goes back to my previous statement about protecting their trademarks and copyrights. If somebody is claiming to be Sega of Japan and they own Dreamcast.com - but they aren't actually Sega of Japan, wouldn't they have been sued? Impersonating a corporation like that is a serious offense, I'd think.

It's also important to note that the story I linked hasn't gotten an official statement from Sega yet. We're still just going on "I heard it from..."

Unless somebody here who speaks Japanese wants to translate the link they cite as their source.

[Lost Fragment]

Yeah but it's not that they don't care that somebody ganked it, it's the fact that the person who ganked it is, according to Whois.com, faking Sega of Japan's credentials. Because all info on the domain points to it still being owned by Sega of Japan.

How are they supposed to know someone is impersonating them if they don't know that someone scooped up an old domain?

I don't understand why you're so steadfastly unable to recognize this as a scam.

[lupinko]

Well I feel violated still. ='(

[Nickodamus]

Unless somebody here who speaks Japanese wants to translate the link they cite as their source.

Babelfish translation seems to indicate that it's in fact bs, but depends on who wrote it I guess..(who is Hiroshi Kawamura, as it seems he did the writeup or was quoted in the article)

[Sega1991]

How are they supposed to know someone is impersonating them if they don't know that someone scooped up an old domain? I don't understand why you're so steadfastly unable to recognize this as a scam.

You don't think that, for three years, they wouldn't have kept tabs on the ownership of a domain name they once owned? You don't think they have a guy (or a legal firm) that watches specifically for this sort of thing? There's more than enough fans who pay attention to Dreamcast.com, certainly you'd expect that the people who manufactured the console would've been aware of the possible implications.

We're talking impersonation of a multinational corporation, here. Nobody notices that for three years? You've got to be kidding me.

Something doesn't add up, here. I don't know exactly what's going on, I'm just trying to remind people of the facts that they aren't considering. There's no way it can be that clean-cut, and until I see official, big-print text on multiple reputable websites direct from Sega's mouth that this is, infact, bogus, I am going to remain open to any possibility.

[lupinko]

The irony here(I guess) is that, while I found out that this was a scam, I have Ryu ga Gotoku Kenzan right beside me.

Still feel so used. ='/

[SexConker]

People fell for this?

[SHOTEH FOCK OP]

People fell for this?

please shut up

[xaosslug]

awe.

[Death_Born]

Something doesn't add up, here. I don't know exactly what's going on, I'm just trying to remind people of the facts that they aren't considering. There's no way it can be that clean-cut, and until I see official, big-print text on multiple reputable websites direct from Sega's mouth that this is, infact, bogus, I am going to remain open to any possibility.

I_want_to_berieve.GIF

COME ON, people can scoop up any big-name site they want as long as they have the cash. Just look at whitehouse.com, it's not owned by the US Government even though it should be. Give it a rest, they already proved it's a scam.

[lupinko]

People fell for this?

If you love Sega and the Dreamcast, then yes. :'(

[Kadey]

Haven't you kids learned never to give out your dreamcast information over the net?

[My6cats]

Yeah but it's not that they don't care that somebody ganked it, it's the fact that the person who ganked it is, according to Whois.com, faking Sega of Japan's credentials. Because all info on the domain points to it still being owned by Sega of Japan. And that just goes back to my previous statement about protecting their trademarks and copyrights. If somebody is claiming to be Sega of Japan and they own Dreamcast.com - but they aren't actually Sega of Japan, wouldn't they have been sued? Impersonating a corporation like that is a serious offense, I'd think. It's also important to note that the story I linked hasn't gotten an official statement from Sega yet. We're still just going on "I heard it from..." Unless somebody here who speaks Japanese wants to translate the link they cite as their source.

Maybe no one has reported it to Sega?

[Sega1991]

I_want_to_berieve.GIF COME ON, people can scoop up any big-name site they want as long as they have the cash. Just look at whitehouse.com, it's not owned by the US Government even though it should be. Give it a rest, they already proved it's a scam.

That's a stupid excuse, too. There's whitehouse.gov - why do they need whitehouse.com?

I'm sorry, but I don't believe in all this grapevine bullshit. "I heard it from a guy who says that Sega is doing something!" That's not good enough. You can't take that as fact. If you take that as fact, well, hey, here's a newsflash for you to spread around the blog-o-sphere: Pepsi is going to buy out Nintendo and make a game console that runs on Mt. Dew Code Red! It's true! I know a guy who's Reggie's assistant, the memo just came in this morning.

I'm looking at what I know, here. Somebody claiming to be Sega of Japan renewed the Dreamcast.com domain in June of 2005. The registration for the domain expires this year. If you do an IP look-up on the domain it gives you a collocation hosting service. It is specifically hosted on the server pass17.dizinc.com, and accessing that webpage gives you a cpanel starter page.

Going to dizinc.com redirects you to dimenoc.com. Accessing the webpage gives you:

DimeNOC is a modern telecom facility located in the central I-4 corridor near downtown Orlando. Our facility combines a robust network and proven equipment to create a high performance data environment.

I don't understand how that seems suspicious at all. There's nothing suspicious about any of this, but suddenly people start saying it's a scam with very little reason to. It's kind of odd, I guess, that a domain registered in Japan is hosted in florida, but it's not impossible. It's not as though all Sega domains are hosted on the same servers, or even registered through the same domain registrar.

Until there is official proof of what this is, I don't think anybody should be jumping the gun on declaring this real or a scam. Is that too much to ask?

[x3sphere]

Sega confirmed it is a scam to Japanese news site Mainichi:

http://mainichi.jp/enta/mantan/news/...00043000c.html

They are considering to take action.

[lupinko]

Until there is official proof of what this is, I don't think anybody should be jumping the gun on declaring this real or a scam. Is that too much to ask?

EDIT: I jumped the gun, and I over analyzed it, turns out I was entering my login name incorrectly when I was freaking out earlier, but still it's good that I use 10 different passwords on a regular basis.

[Lost Fragment]

That's a stupid excuse, too. There's whitehouse.gov - why do they need whitehouse.com? I'm sorry, but I don't believe in all this grapevine bullshit. "I heard it from a guy who says that Sega is doing something!" That's not good enough. You can't take that as fact. If you take that as fact, well, hey, here's a newsflash for you to spread around the blog-o-sphere: Pepsi is going to buy out Nintendo and make a game console that runs on Mt. Dew Code Red! It's true! I know a guy who's Reggie's assistant, the memo just came in this morning. I'm looking at what I know, here. Somebody claiming to be Sega of Japan renewed the Dreamcast.com domain in June of 2005. The registration for the domain expires this year. If you do an IP look-up on the domain it gives you a collocation hosting service. It is specifically hosted on the server pass17.dizinc.com, and accessing that webpage gives you a cpanel starter page. Going to dizinc.com redirects you to dimenoc.com. Accessing the webpage gives you: I don't understand how that seems suspicious at all. There's nothing suspicious about any of this, but suddenly people start saying it's a scam with very little reason to. It's kind of odd, I guess, that a domain registered in Japan is hosted in florida, but it's not impossible. It's not as though all Sega domains are hosted on the same servers, or even registered through the same domain registrar. Until there is official proof of what this is, I don't think anybody should be jumping the gun on declaring this real or a scam. Is that too much to ask?

ITT, Sega fanboys desperately trying to piece together shattered dreams.

[lupinko]

ITT, Sega fanboys desperately trying to piece together shattered dreams.

No, just him, most Sega fanboys have their hearts broken, like myself. ='(

[Sega1991]

ITT, Sega fanboys desperately trying to piece together shattered dreams.

ITT, Everybody's screaming "hoax!" like there's no evidence to the contrary. You can go ahead and turn a blind eye to everything I'm saying all you want, I'd just rather wait for official confirmation rather than trust some retarded sensationalist game news blog, you know?

[Hootie]

awe.

SHOCK AND AWE.

[vilmer_]

I still have hope. I want to believe.

[Sega1991]

I still have hope. I want to believe.

It's not that I want to believe or disbelieve. I didn't register for the site (found out about it after they removed the registration page), and my Dreamcast is on it's last legs (has been for years now - needs a new laser).

But if there's one thing I hate about the internet is how everybody is so instantaneously skeptical at the tiniest sliver of abnormal evidence. That, just because one or two bricks in a wall appear to be misaligned, the whole thing will surely come crashing down at any moment.

Until there is official word from Sega, properly translated, I am remaining open to any possibilities. That's it. I don't appreciate being demonized and laughed at just because I'm not a cynical bastard like everybody else.

[grandjedi6]

That's a stupid excuse, too. There's whitehouse.gov - why do they need whitehouse.com? I'm sorry, but I don't believe in all this grapevine bullshit. "I heard it from a guy who says that Sega is doing something!" That's not good enough. You can't take that as fact. If you take that as fact, well, hey, here's a newsflash for you to spread around the blog-o-sphere: Pepsi is going to buy out Nintendo and make a game console that runs on Mt. Dew Code Red! It's true! I know a guy who's Reggie's assistant, the memo just came in this morning. I'm looking at what I know, here. Somebody claiming to be Sega of Japan renewed the Dreamcast.com domain in June of 2005. The registration for the domain expires this year. If you do an IP look-up on the domain it gives you a collocation hosting service. It is specifically hosted on the server pass17.dizinc.com, and accessing that webpage gives you a cpanel starter page. Going to dizinc.com redirects you to dimenoc.com. Accessing the webpage gives you: I don't understand how that seems suspicious at all. There's nothing suspicious about any of this, but suddenly people start saying it's a scam with very little reason to. It's kind of odd, I guess, that a domain registered in Japan is hosted in florida, but it's not impossible. It's not as though all Sega domains are hosted on the same servers, or even registered through the same domain registrar. Until there is official proof of what this is, I don't think anybody should be jumping the gun on declaring this real or a scam. Is that too much to ask?

Scam is scam. Time to take your head out of the dirt

[vilmer_]

It's not that I want to believe or disbelieve. I didn't register for the site (found out about it after they removed the registration page), and my Dreamcast is on it's last legs (has been for years now - needs a new laser). But if there's one thing I hate about the internet is how everybody is so instantaneously skeptical at the tiniest sliver of abnormal evidence. That, just because one or two bricks in a wall appear to be misaligned, the whole thing will surely come crashing down at any moment. Until there is official word from Sega, properly translated, I am remaining open to any possibilities. That's it. I don't appreciate being demonized and laughed at just because I'm not a cynical bastard like everybody else.

Dude, I wasn't mocking you by any means... I want to believe that it's not a scam and that something is cookin'!

[x3sphere]

ITT, Everybody's screaming "hoax!" like there's no evidence to the contrary. You can go ahead and turn a blind eye to everything I'm saying all you want, I'd just rather wait for official confirmation rather than trust some retarded sensationalist game news blog, you know?

Mainichi is not a sensationalist game news blog, it's a respected publication in Japan.

Sega are unlikely to issue an official statement over the matter until the site is taken down, as it would only draw more attention.

[Sega1991]

Mainichi is not a sensationalist game news blog, it's a respected publication in Japan. Sega are unlikely to issue an official statement over the matter until the site is taken down, as it would only draw more attention.

But do we have a proper translation of the Mainichi article? Or do all we are going on is a nearly-unreadable machine translation? There have been more than a few incorrect headlines on the internet because somebody was reading off of a machine translation.

[grandjedi6]

But do we have a proper translation of the Mainichi article? Or do all we are going on is a nearly-unreadable machine translation? There have been more than a few incorrect headlines on the internet because somebody was reading off of a machine translation.

I can't tell whether you are naive or insane

[Sega1991]

I can't tell whether you are naive or insane

Excuse me for not falling in line with the rest of the jaded and cynical assholes of the world. I'm so sorry I'd rather wait for absolute proof before claiming I know everything regarding this.

Dick.

This is exactly why places like Kotaku exist, because nobody waits for real facts before jumping the gun. Gotta get the news first! Who cares if it's wrong or mistranslated? We're first! Whatta scoop!

[grandjedi6]

So you honestly believe that Sega reopened their website just to get people's completely useless Dreamcast numbers, and that this is somehow a predictor of Dreamcast 2? Despite all the evidence people have brought up showing this is not from Sega, despite the IP addresses, despite the flat out announcement by Sega that this is a scam. You still believe this is somehow indicative of Dreamcast 2 or some kind of ....I have no clue why you think they supposely set this up.

Yep, definetly insane

[MiamiWesker]

I am going to go cry now.

At least I got Sonic in Brawl.

[ManaByte]

"It's a faaaaaake!"

[Kittonwy]

Come on, register it, it might be for something fun. Maybe you'll recieve a code to play some little free online game starring the Dreamcast to celebrate the 10th year?

Thank god I didn't register and give away any important information.

[Kittonwy]

But do we have a proper translation of the Mainichi article? Or do all we are going on is a nearly-unreadable machine translation? There have been more than a few incorrect headlines on the internet because somebody was reading off of a machine translation.

I hope you have nothing to do with this scam because there's not a single good reason why anyone would defend this.

[Kittonwy]

I am going to go cry now. At least I got Sonic in Brawl.

Don't tell me you signed up for this scam.

[master15]

Something similar happened with the offical Shenmue website, which rights lapsed and an eager fan got the site than tried tricking the Shenmue community there was an update coming to the online mode of the game.

Thankfully some savvy users figured out the hoax and the poster contacted Sega who took back the rights. Frankly this seems awfully familar.

[Kittonwy]

Something similar happened with the offical Shenmue website, which rights lapsed and an eager fan got the site than tried tricking the Shenmue community there was an update coming to the online mode of the game. Thankfully some savvy users figured out the hoax and the poster contacted Sega who took back the rights. Frankly this seems awfully familar.

Sega needs to come clean and announce there will NEVER be a Shenmue 3 or Dreamcast 2 so some people can finally stop hanging onto false hope.

[Mandoric]

ITT, Everybody's screaming "hoax!" like there's no evidence to the contrary. You can go ahead and turn a blind eye to everything I'm saying all you want, I'd just rather wait for official confirmation rather than trust some retarded sensationalist game news blog, you know?

Dreamcast: "Do you still own it" 'fake site' opens, Sega warns On the 10th, a site using the address of the site for the Dreamcast, Sega's system which stopped production in 2001, appeared. Sega has issued the warning "We are not involved in the administration of this site, and regret any misunderstanding that may have occured to the consumer." Along with using the official Dreamcast site's address, it illicitly uses the Dreamcast and Sega logos while asking "Do you still own a Dreamcast?". From the top page, there is also a link to Sega's online retail site, Sega Direct, as well as numerous design elements from that page. However, Sega no longer owns the address, and is unsure who does.

now can you shut up already

[Felix Lighter]

He's obviously saying "You've just been pranked"

[medrew]

You don't think that, for three years, they wouldn't have kept tabs on the ownership of a domain name they once owned? You don't think they have a guy (or a legal firm) that watches specifically for this sort of thing? There's more than enough fans who pay attention to Dreamcast.com, certainly you'd expect that the people who manufactured the console would've been aware of the possible implications. We're talking impersonation of a multinational corporation, here. Nobody notices that for three years? You've got to be kidding me. Something doesn't add up, here. I don't know exactly what's going on, I'm just trying to remind people of the facts that they aren't considering. There's no way it can be that clean-cut, and until I see official, big-print text on multiple reputable websites direct from Sega's mouth that this is, infact, bogus, I am going to remain open to any possibility.

Uhh, it happens. They have more important things to be concerned about than overlooking every domain they own. Just ask Capcom and what happened with Killer7.com (or whatever its domain was). They were still distributing the game with the URL on the box when someone came in grabbed the domain from underneath them and ran porn on it.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthre...ht=killer+porn