NeoGAF

Originally Posted by Rapping Granny

Pata Pata Pata Pon.

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I love the big screen
so fresh and so clean
games so crazy
They totally amaze me

some angry fans in this thread....................wow

Originally Posted by The Faceless Master

i guess this ok when not talking about a game dev or game journalist...

No, just be employed in Redmond, Washington. Microsoft propped up HD-DVD to fight Blu-Ray because they wanted to confuse the consumer.

thats too bad since..
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/36428/113/

wats happening here oh my

So much for offering choices.

"We definitely expect we will trail in February as a result of our supply constraints," Greenberg said, adding: "By April, we will be in a very healthy inventory situation."

smh

"We definitely expect we will trail in February as a result of our supply constraints," Greenberg said, adding: "By April, we will be in a very healthy inventory situation."

:lol

Supply constraints are the new Area 51. Seriously.

For Nintendo & Microsoft. There's no way Nintendo is still producing 1.8M Wiis a month, yet selling per month around/under 300K in the US and under 300K in Japan, and then leaving what, 1.2M in Europe? Yeah right. Nintendo's just as guilty of playing the "supply constraint" card as MS, based on their 1.8M a month looking more now like 1M a month.

The only difference is the Wii is in more demand, but I have trouble swallowing those 1.8M a month numbers we heard a while ago when NA and Japan are selling so low.

We'll see tomorrow, but unless a healthly 500K+ Wiis sold in the US, I don't see where those 1.8M Wiis are going.

I don't know, something's fishy. We bought this excuse for January (retailers didn't order enough / it made sense after rushing the hardware before the holidays). We've been told to expect similar results in February, which makes less sense, it's not like this is a brand new product.

Now, we're being hinted at to expect supply contriants again for March? Lol I say. Lol.

Originally Posted by golem

thats too bad since..
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/36428/113/

Yes, now it is time for the OEMs to make their money. This is why Sony is going to have to stand pat on PS3 pricing for a while.

Originally Posted by Minsc

:lol



I don't know, something's fishy. We bought this excuse for January (retailers didn't order enough / it made sense after rushing the hardware before the holidays). We've been told to expect similar results in February, which makes less sense, it's not like this is a brand new product.

Now, we're being hinted at to expect supply contriants again for March? Lol I say. Lol.

He never said March. He brought up April because that is price cut month.

Originally Posted by Paracelsus

Hasn't this to do with their "DVD2" joined effort?

"DVD2"?

"By April, we will be in a very healthy inventory situation."

Why, that's the month that GTA IV will be released!

I'm expecting another 360 supply shortage around June 12th or so.

They'll say NO until the day that the Blu ray Add-on is released lol.

Originally Posted by Agent Icebeezy

Yes, now it is time for the OEMs to make their money. This is why Sony is going to have to stand pat on PS3 pricing for a while.



He never said March. He brought up April because that is price cut month.

I know, I read between the lines. He said by April it will be in good shape, so to me, that counts as hinting at March may or may not be ok.

Originally Posted by Replicant

This is pure gold right here.

Originally Posted by Replicant

Supply constraints my ass. Maybe they're supply constrained because they need to keep replacing the dead 360 with a new one. :lol

lulz, I would comment on that but I'll keep my mouth shut for now.

As for them crying about supply for March, LOL...

Originally Posted by chubigans

Why, that's the month that GTA IV will be released!

I'm expecting another 360 supply shortage around June 12th or so.

:lol

lol'd at better value

Originally Posted by TheIroning

lol'd at better value

I cry every time someone buys the wireless adapter for $100 :|

Originally Posted by chubigans

Why, that's the month that GTA IV will be released!

I'm expecting another 360 supply shortage around June 12th or so.

:lol

Originally Posted by chubigans

I'm expecting another 360 supply shortage around June 12th or so.

:lol :lol :lol

Originally Posted by chubigans

Many, many Blu-Rays use the same VC-1 codecs that HD-DVD does.

They are the minority, and the numbers appear to be going down.

"We still think we have a great value, that we have significantly better value than Sony. Every month we've actually been in stock we've outsold them by a 2 to 1 margin," Greenberg said.

Originally Posted by chubigans

Why, that's the month that GTA IV will be released!

I'm expecting another 360 supply shortage around June 12th or so.

That sounds about right .

Originally Posted by chubigans

I'm expecting another 360 supply shortage around June 12th or so.

:lol :lol :lol

GAF sure has turned on Microsoft.

Originally Posted by Agent Icebeezy

Yes, now it is time for the OEMs to make their money. This is why Sony is going to have to stand pat on PS3 pricing for a while.

?

There is no information that manufacturers have raised their price to distributors and retailers.

The 'news' in the link states its based on price-grabber data. In other words, its retail taking advantage of increased BluRay exposure and sales.

He never said March. He brought up April because that is price cut month.

?

"We definitely expect we will trail in February as a result of our supply constraints," Greenberg said, adding: "By April, we will be in a very healthy inventory situation."

How does that not imply they expect to claim supply constraint problems in March?

Originally Posted by chubigans

Why, that's the month that GTA IV will be released!

I'm expecting another 360 supply shortage around June 12th or so.

:lol :lol :lol




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Originally Posted by TheGreatDave

GAF sure has turned on Microsoft.

Unnatural Selection?

We still only get a couple of 360s every couple of weeks. It's been two years, what's going on?

We have been told in an email that they're going to have plenty by GTA4. Which means a dozen a week during that month compared to the two we get now.

Originally Posted by TheGreatDave

GAF sure has turned on Microsoft.

this is nothing, you should have been around here during the xbox 1 launch days... it was near intolerable.

They must really want to get rid of those Halo bundles before breaking out the GTA ones.

Originally Posted by Deadly Monk

We still only get a couple of 360s every couple of weeks. It's been two years, what's going on?

We have been told in an email that they're going to have plenty by GTA4. Which means a dozen a week during that month compared to the two we get now.

To put things in perspective, my store has been fully stocked all month. We haven't sold out. In fact Elites are not selling at my store at all. I've seen other stores in stock as well. I worked at a different store in my district two days this week and guess what? They had full stock as well. There is no supply issues now.

Originally Posted by Son of Godzilla

They must really want to get rid of those Halo bundles before breaking out the GTA ones.

Oh shitz son's no you didn't!

Good to see some people at Sony can still think at a 3rd grade level. How mind-bogglingly stupid would it have been to give the 360 Blu-ray?

This thread has brought out the very worst of GAF

Originally Posted by GauntletFan

This thread has brought out the very worst of GAF

No, just people that don't post in 360 game threads.

For a long time, I've been of the opinion that the 360 was a shoe in for 2nd place behind Nintendo this gen, but with the Blu-ray victory, and Sony's willingness to continue to cut prices I'm starting to think that the PS3 may have a chance in the long term. I think Microsoft has to make a bigger effort at attracting consumers. A price cut, built in wi-fi (why was this not included in the first place?), and optional Blu-ray on high end models would go a long way towards reaching that space. A model that matches the PS3 40 gig feature for feature at the same price or lower would be the way to go - along with a lower priced option to compete with the Wii.

Originally Posted by Tom Penny

I didn't see it happening anyway.

Me either, the hd-dvd drive was an option only, so I wouldn't see them ever putting a BD in the box, may be an add on at the most.

Originally Posted by TheGreatDave

GAF sure has turned on Microsoft.

Just the crest of another wave. Sony had it pretty bad for awhile. Ride the snake. :)

Originally Posted by Son of Godzilla

They must really want to get rid of those Halo bundles before breaking out the GTA ones.

Couldn't they just dump the colored shell and let the innards find a new life in a normal case?

Originally Posted by raziel

Good to see some people at Sony can still think at a 3rd grade level. How mind-bogglingly stupid would it have been to give the 360 Blu-ray?

What?

:lol

well ofcourse great value. microsoft is like the walmart of computing.

wait whats this pata pon meme i dont get it <:(

Here is what Sony had to say about the "industry standard" for a product to be considered in stock for March 07 NPD numbers. So unless every store has 30 360 units, it's not "in stock".

"The industry standard for a product to be considered to be in an "in-stock" position for a store is 30 units per store. This would be the level you would see for a PS2 or Xbox 360. At this level, retailers will feature a product in their weekly advertising circulars. If you are not at this level, retailers can't guarantee consumers will find one if they go into the store and they most likely won't support your product in weekly ads. Although you can indeed find PS3s in stores currently, we are no where near an "in-stock" position."

- David Karraker, Sony Computer Entertainment

http://kotaku.com/gaming/npd/nintend...gba-253845.php

Originally Posted by OldJadedGamer

Here is what Sony had to say about the "industry standard" for a product to be considered in stock for March 07 NPD numbers. So unless every store has 30 360 units, it's not "in stock".

"The industry standard for a product to be considered to be in an "in-stock" position for a store is 30 units per store. This would be the level you would see for a PS2 or Xbox 360. At this level, retailers will feature a product in their weekly advertising circulars. If you are not at this level, retailers can't guarantee consumers will find one if they go into the store and they most likely won't support your product in weekly ads. Although you can indeed find PS3s in stores currently, we are no where near an "in-stock" position."

- David Karraker, Sony Computer Entertainment

http://kotaku.com/gaming/npd/nintend...gba-253845.php

I forgot all about this.

Originally Posted by DeadGzuz

With one less (HD-DVD).



$400 PS3, wi-fi built in and best BD player on the market.

$350 360, $99 wi-fi add-on and no BD.

What value? They can brag about lowest entry cost, but with the over priced proprietary peripherals they are not the best value.

I know that it's essentially a staple to bring up the $99 wi-fi, but it really is a bit silly. My 360 is connected to a wireless bridge that I paid about $30 for and it works fine. Just because they sell an accessory does not mean that it's the only choice for consumers. We don't all buy official cables either.

Originally Posted by Son of Godzilla

They must really want to get rid of those Halo bundles before breaking out the GTA ones.

Shhh the longer they're out and no one buys them the better chance(hopefully) I might have with a clearance sale. Even if the Halo bundle looks pretty ugly it would be perfect for me if it was 199. I need a 360 for the new Tales game and I can handle a red ring of death or two for 199.

Originally Posted by kmfdmpig

I know that it's essentially a staple to bring up the $99 wi-fi, but it really is a bit silly. My 360 is connected to a wireless bridge that I paid about $30 for and it works fine. Just because they sell an accessory does not mean that it's the only choice for consumers. We don't all buy official cables either.

Well that is us man people think that if it's branded by something to the original product that is the way just must go with. I did that once upon a time but now I am savy son.

Originally Posted by IzumiK

It's funny how they support digital distribution and not enforce HDD on SKUs.

It's like buying a hamburger that you've seen your coworkers spit into it.

:lol

I think Microsoft needs to go on record that they were dead wrong concerning the format war, as well as every single aspect of their storage/disc solutions.

"We still think we have a great value, that we have significantly better value than Sony. Every month we've actually been in stock we've outsold them by a 2 to 1 margin," Greenberg said.

Hmmm. I guess now they're claiming retroactively that when they didn't go 2:1 in December 2007 they weren't "in stock" either. Funny, if they didn't care to mention that until now, they did their shareholders a real disservice.

Originally Posted by Draft

They're all about choice.

Yep. Choice. As long as your choice is the same as the suits at Microsoft headquarters...

See, they're doing the drones a favor by making the choice for them again. (Sure the HD-DVD "choice" they made for the drones didn't work so great, but hey, it's not their money that got spent.) Now the suits say the choice you want to make is renting movies, not buying. Lick it up, loyal servants.

Not me. I wanted my second Blu-ray player. I'm pissed.