Wii Shop update?

Capndrake · (03-20-2008, 07:16 PM)

Just had to download an update for the Wii Shop while trying to access it (European Wii), so far it doesn't appear to actually change anything though. The Wii Shop was down for maintenance for about an hour previously though.

sk3tch · (03-20-2008, 07:19 PM)

Dun dun duuun!

samratty · (03-20-2008, 07:21 PM)

Getting ready for WiiWare perhaps...?
Probably not, it's NOE :(

later · (03-20-2008, 07:21 PM)

Someone sniff the new USER AGENT so we can browse the channel with firefox and find out all the hidden goodies .. !

brandonh83 · (03-20-2008, 07:21 PM)

Just updated... and... I smell something burning.

Threi · (03-20-2008, 07:22 PM)

Hide your freeloaders people.

woobit · (03-20-2008, 07:23 PM)

*Shuts down WiiConnect24*

Just in case

wsippel · (03-20-2008, 07:34 PM)

Just installed the update. I don't remember that guide-thing in the lower right corner of the shop, but other than that, I noticed no differences. The shop is still slow, ugly and unusable as always.

Blablurn · (03-20-2008, 07:36 PM)

Originally Posted by wsippel:

Just installed the update. I don't remember that guide-thing in the lower right corner of the shop, but other than that, I noticed no differences. The shop is still slow, ugly and unusable as always.

you're right, dude.

and people are still complaining about PSN -.-

wsippel · (03-20-2008, 07:43 PM)

Originally Posted by Blablurn:

you're right, dude.

and people are still complaining about PSN -.-

Thing is, all the other Wii channels are simply great. Excellent interface designs, straight forward, responsive and usable. The shop on the other hand looks like a placeholder. The design is completely inconsistent and unpolished, it looks bland, and it's pretty much completely Javascript-based, which is probably the reason for the god awful speed. All those things could be fixed with little effort, but it's still shit after more than a year - and that's why I believe it's really just a placeholder.

devildog820 · (03-20-2008, 07:47 PM)

Originally Posted by wsippel:

Thing is, all the other Wii channels are simply great. Excellent interface designs, straight forward, responsive and usable. The shop on the other hand looks like a placeholder. The design is completely inconsistent and unpolished, it looks bland, and it's pretty much completely Javascript-based, which is probably the reason for the god awful speed. All those things could be fixed with little effort, but it's still shit after more than a year - and that's why I believe it's really just a placeholder.

Yeah, the shop does seem to be left out when it comes to the interface department. Nintendo hires all those industrial design people, surely someone can spruce it up.

That being said, how many VC downloads so far? Why mess with something so profitable...

solid2snake · (03-20-2008, 07:48 PM)

have they add Dreamcast gems to VC?

wsippel · (03-20-2008, 07:53 PM)

Originally Posted by devildog820:

Yeah, the shop does seem to be left out when it comes to the interface department. Nintendo hires all those industrial design people, surely someone can spruce it up.

That being said, how many VC downloads so far? Why mess with something so profitable...

I think they have to replace the current shop in the future, anyway. The current design isn't really all that well suited for large amounts of content. And there were rumblings about a completely new interface concept around GDC, I believe Braben mentioned it in an interview. Maybe they'll just integrate the shop in Minna No Nintendo once it's released worldwide.

John Harker · (03-20-2008, 07:56 PM)

Originally Posted by devildog820:

Yeah, the shop does seem to be left out when it comes to the interface department. Nintendo hires all those industrial design people, surely someone can spruce it up.

That being said, how many VC downloads so far? Why mess with something so profitable...

mess with something so profitable?

The download numbers are really poor, if you look at them contextually.
Rock Band alone - ONE GAME - has nearly the same number of downloads as all of the VC.

Well, more than half anyway.
The penetration rate of Wii for online is abysmal: something like 8% at its peak so far.

Edag Plata · (03-20-2008, 07:59 PM)

Originally Posted by John Harker:

mess with something so profitable?

The download numbers are really poor, if you look at them contextually.
Rock Band alone - ONE GAME - has nearly the same number of downloads as all of the VC.

Well, more than half anyway.
The penetration rate of Wii for online is abysmal: something like 8% at its peak so far.

Well, Rock Band downloads are also much cheaper than $5 for an NES game, AND on ps3 and 360 you have a much higher percentage of very serious players who are willing to spend the money on game content than your mom or your little sister or people who aren't usually as good with getting online and using "Wii Points". So considering a lot of the Wii's audience, they are doing very good.

Besides, in Rock Band they have to make these tracks for all 4 instruments. VC just pops a rom up onto the server and makes instant $$$$$

farnham · (03-20-2008, 08:13 PM)

Originally Posted by John Harker:

mess with something so profitable?

The download numbers are really poor, if you look at them contextually.
Rock Band alone - ONE GAME - has nearly the same number of downloads as all of the VC.

Well, more than half anyway.
The penetration rate of Wii for online is abysmal: something like 8% at its peak so far.

1. how much does a VC game cost

5 to 10 dollars how much does a Rockband song cost...

2. the latest number for VC is something like over 10 million

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6185358.html

that was in febuary 2008... Nintendo sees it as a success and really it is...

3. The cost... seriously.. its done work... Harmonix needs to actually develop the songs.. even if its not much.. and there are licencing issues..
Nintendo and the thirdparties just need to upload on their crappy servers.. thats all... they are raking in money for free... plus most of the time no licenses needed

Jiguryo · (03-20-2008, 08:14 PM)

The update is in preparation for the spring launch of Wii Ware. It's written on the MOTD :)

WiiRevolution1 · (03-20-2008, 08:15 PM)

An Update to your Wii Shop Channel is now available. This update is needed in order to access WiiWare games launching this Spring.

For those who have already done the update on or after March 20th, you will not need to update again.

===

This comes straight from the NA Wii Shop Channel welcome page.

The update probally came this early since WiiWare launches in 5 days in Japan.

Jaded Alyx · (03-20-2008, 08:21 PM)

Originally Posted by Jiguryo:

The update is in preparation for the spring launch of Wii Ware. It's written on the MOTD :)

Match of the Day?

devildog820 · (03-20-2008, 08:30 PM)

Originally Posted by Edag Plata:

Well, Rock Band downloads are also much cheaper than $5 for an NES game, AND on ps3 and 360 you have a much higher percentage of very serious players who are willing to spend the money on game content than your mom or your little sister or people who aren't usually as good with getting online and using "Wii Points". So considering a lot of the Wii's audience, they are doing very good.

Besides, in Rock Band they have to make these tracks for all 4 instruments. VC just pops a rom up onto the server and makes instant $$$$$

Yup, with a little QC effort, they can put a classic game up for download. They probably keep a majority of the revenue as well.

Jiguryo · (03-20-2008, 08:32 PM)

Originally Posted by Jaded Alyx:

Match of the Day?

Message, naturally. ;) Yay, that solves the case of the rogue update.

later · (03-20-2008, 08:35 PM)

Seriously, someone go sniff the new user agent if you know how.. PLEASE :)

Blablurn · (03-20-2008, 08:39 PM)

Originally Posted by solid2snake:

have they add Dreamcast gems to VC?

please stop making stupid posts.

NintendoGal · (03-20-2008, 08:39 PM)

Originally Posted by WiiRevolution1:

An Update to your Wii Shop Channel is now available. This update is needed in order to access WiiWare games launching this Spring.

For those who have already done the update on or after March 20th, you will not need to update again.

===

This comes straight from the NA Wii Shop Channel welcome page.

The update probally came this early since WiiWare launches in 5 days in Japan.

I didn't get all of that on my screen, I got:

Linkup · (03-20-2008, 08:41 PM)

Seems we'll get Wiiware before the Everybody's nintendo channel.

Originally Posted by NintendoGal:

I didn't get all of that on my screen, I got:

Did you check the wii message broad?

NintendoGal · (03-20-2008, 08:43 PM)

Originally Posted by Linkup:

Seems we'll get Wiiware before the Everybody's nintendo channel.

Did you check the wii message broad?

Yes and there were no new messages for me. The poster also said this was when they went to the Wii Shop Channel, not the message board.

WiiRevolution1 · 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by NintendoGal:

I didn't get all of that on my screen, I got:

No...its on the Wii Shop Welcome page....AFTER You update...

EDIT: WTH I just went to the JP WiiShop and saw a new channel that downgrades your Photo Channel from 1.1 to 1.0

And it did alot of wierd stuff when I downloaded it O_O

John Harker · (03-20-2008, 09:01 PM)

Originally Posted by farnham:

1. how much does a VC game cost

5 to 10 dollars how much does a Rockband song cost...

2. the latest number for VC is something like over 10 million

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6185358.html

that was in febuary 2008... Nintendo sees it as a success and really it is...

3. The cost... seriously.. its done work... Harmonix needs to actually develop the songs.. even if its not much.. and there are licencing issues..
Nintendo and the thirdparties just need to upload on their crappy servers.. thats all... they are raking in money for free... plus most of the time no licenses needed

Bro, it was one teeny tiny example. One game out of hundreds. You can quote costs all you want, but penetration rates speak for themselves.

60%-50%-8%

Well, it COULD be 10% after Brawl... haven't seen the latest figures.

Anyway, you can't really claim the VC is a massive success when online rates for the Wii itself isnt even a "minor success" - 10 million downloads doesn't compare to the hundreds and hundreds of millions the other platforms have.

NintendoGal · (03-20-2008, 09:03 PM)

Ahh, for some reason it didn't show me the welcome screen after I went back in.. just went right into it (which is odd but I didn't think much of it).

I'll try again later and see if I can see it. Perhaps it's a fluke with my Wii. :)

Branskins · (03-20-2008, 09:03 PM)

I was really hoping Everybody's Nintendo Channel would be made available after this update!

WiiRevolution1 · (03-20-2008, 09:10 PM)

Originally Posted by Branskins:

I was really hoping Everybody's Nintendo Channel would be made available after this update!

The ENC would'nt need a update tho

fresquito · (03-20-2008, 09:38 PM)

Originally Posted by John Harker:

Anyway, you can't really claim the VC is a massive success when online rates for the Wii itself isnt even a "minor success" - 10 million downloads doesn't compare to the hundreds and hundreds of millions the other platforms have.

This argument is either retarded or biased. You cannot really put in the same basket downloadable games and all kinds of downloadable content, free content included.

GitarooMan · (03-20-2008, 09:43 PM)

Originally Posted by fresquito:

This argument is either retarded or biased. You cannot really put in the same basket downloadable games and all kinds of downloadable content, free content included.

Do you realize he's saying that only ~10% of Wiis are used online? Plus, IIRC he has access to a lot more info on these subjects than you, who is just blindly defending the Wii.

John Harker · (03-20-2008, 09:44 PM)

Originally Posted by GitarooMan:

Do you realize he's saying that only ~10% of Wiis are used online? Plus, IIRC he has access to a lot more info on these subjects than you, who is just blindly defending the Wii.

ding ding ding, winner!

Roxas · (03-20-2008, 09:46 PM)

Commodore 64 games? When are they going up?

Starchasing · (03-20-2008, 09:47 PM)

Originally Posted by GitarooMan:

Do you realize he's saying that only ~10% of Wiis are used online? Plus, IIRC he has access to a lot more info on these subjects than you, who is just blindly defending the Wii.

10% aint what Nintendo said in their latest report.

Capndrake · (03-20-2008, 09:48 PM)

Originally Posted by Roxas:

Commodore 64 games? When are they going up?

Probably not for a few months. Master System still needs to come, and indeed, some MS games are already rated (By the OFLC) while no C64 games are.

Lettuce · (03-20-2008, 09:54 PM)

60hz support for PAL Wii owners!!?

Xeke · 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by John Harker:

Bro, it was one teeny tiny example. One game out of hundreds. You can quote costs all you want, but penetration rates speak for themselves.

60%-50%-8%

Well, it COULD be 10% after Brawl... haven't seen the latest figures.

Anyway, you can't really claim the VC is a massive success when online rates for the Wii itself isnt even a "minor success" - 10 million downloads doesn't compare to the hundreds and hundreds of millions the other platforms have.

With the amount of time that the Wii has been out compared to the Xbox 360 and the rate at which the Wii is being purchased compared to the recent lethargic 360 sales it would be quite a feat for the Wii to have such online penetration.

Xbox live has existed for how long now? It's a silly comparison and if Nintendo says its successful for them then I don't know what you are arguing because you seem to have higher expectations than Nintendo itself.

Cynar · (03-20-2008, 10:12 PM)

Originally Posted by John Harker:

Bro, it was one teeny tiny example. One game out of hundreds. You can quote costs all you want, but penetration rates speak for themselves.

60%-50%-8%

Well, it COULD be 10% after Brawl... haven't seen the latest figures.

Anyway, you can't really claim the VC is a massive success when online rates for the Wii itself isnt even a "minor success" - 10 million downloads doesn't compare to the hundreds and hundreds of millions the other platforms have.

EternalDarko · (03-20-2008, 10:22 PM)

Any issues with freeloader?

Probably being too cautious since the update is Wii Shop related, but i'd rather be safe than sorry.

John Harker · (03-20-2008, 10:25 PM)

Oh, why do I even bother.

Semantic Continuum · (03-20-2008, 10:25 PM)

Originally Posted by Lettuce:

60hz support for PAL Wii owners!!?

no, freeloader unsupport

BuzzJive · (03-20-2008, 10:33 PM)

Originally Posted by John Harker:

The penetration rate of Wii for online is abysmal: something like 8% at its peak so far.

NO. Why are you making up numbers?

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english...071130/143467/

Quote:

According to Nintendo, the Wii's current Internet access ratio is about 40%.

...

Originally Posted by John Harker:

Oh, why do I even bother.

Yes - why indeed.

Starchasing · (03-20-2008, 10:35 PM)

Originally Posted by BuzzJive:

NO. Why are you making up numbers?

John Harker
Truly appreciates the art
of making up shit as you
go along

morningbus · (03-20-2008, 10:36 PM)

Originally Posted by BuzzJive:

Yes - why indeed.

You really should read his tag. Jus' sayin'.

edit: Damn you starchasing!

John Harker · (03-20-2008, 10:41 PM)

Must suck living in houses without windows

morningbus · (03-20-2008, 10:47 PM)

Originally Posted by John Harker:

Must suck living in houses without windows

Quit making stuff up as you go along. There are no houses like that. Even if there are, they're statistical noise compared to houses with window's penetration rate.

Kulock · (03-20-2008, 10:49 PM)

Originally Posted by WiiRevolution1:

EDIT: WTH I just went to the JP WiiShop and saw a new channel that downgrades your Photo Channel from 1.1 to 1.0

And it did alot of wierd stuff when I downloaded it O_O

Oho! 1.1 was the update that removed MP3 support because it was cheaper for Nintendo to pay for a different format. (And I think the only other pathetic option it added was picking a picture to use as an icon for the Photo Channel.) Looks like the complaints in Japan were too much?

WiiRevolution1 · (03-20-2008, 11:27 PM)

Originally Posted by Kulock:

Oho! 1.1 was the update that removed MP3 support because it was cheaper for Nintendo to pay for a different format. (And I think the only other pathetic option it added was picking a picture to use as an icon for the Photo Channel.) Looks like the complaints in Japan were too much?

I guess it was...

When I downloaded it I clicked it and it started updating my Wii firmware to 1.0......then it moved the Photo Channel three pages....then....oh it just did alot of crazy things I wish I knew japanese...