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sprsk · (03-23-2008, 08:45 AM)

Heyyyyyyyyyy guyyyyyyyyyyys
It's me again.

I don't have much to say about this game other than:

1. With a base team, it's hard to do special attacks.
2. You can kick and punch people! During the match! You can run over to the other side and punch people in the face and steal the ball!
3. SOOOOOOOOOOOO MANY STATS, way more than I need for a dodgeball game. In the character creation mode you can select jersey color shorts color, hair style and face style, after deciding that you determine stats. They give you 150 points to distribute and...yeah...it requires a lot of thought, considering there are like 8 people on your team.
4. Weapons drop and you can throw them at people!! Yay!!
5. You go shopping at the same store as River City Ransom!

The basic game is mostly unchanged, but the RCR influences change up the strategies quite a bit. The lethargic running still makes me mad though, I wonder why they changed it from the NES version.

Oh I forgot to mention there are special attacks you activate with the touch screen that change your teams stats in a way, make them super powerful, super fast, catch everything and so on. It's possible to get your team to nes speeds, but to be honest I wish it would just be that way from the start.

DarkStar · (03-23-2008, 08:55 AM)

Do you have the english or japanese version?

sprsk · (03-23-2008, 09:09 AM)

Originally Posted by DarkStar

Do you have the english or japanese version?

Is there an English version?

speedpop · (03-23-2008, 09:11 AM)

English version isn't out yet.

MoogPaul · (03-23-2008, 09:18 AM)

Originally Posted by sp0rsk

2. You can kick and punch people! During the match! You can run over to the other side and punch people in the face and steal the ball!

I remember getting punched in the face during high school gym dodge ball myself. It's amazing how realistic these games are getting now.

BobFromPikeCreek · (03-23-2008, 09:19 AM)

The free-for-all brawl mode is amazing now. The RCR weapons really make it fun.

TreIII · (03-24-2008, 11:09 PM)

...So, in essence, this is a lot more like the SNES Dodge Ball title, plus more. Good to know, since I loved that version. :D

Since I don't have the game (yet), maybe some one could also enlighten me: is it possible to make it so that you can form different formations with your team-mates? I have fond memories of making my dudes stand on each other, totem-style, in order to form another way to kick-ass... :lol

mutsu · (03-25-2008, 01:37 AM)

Doesn't look like there are many people interested in the game!

So Sp0rsk, the ultimate question - Is the game fun? Do you like it?

BudokaiMR2 · (03-25-2008, 01:51 AM)

Damnit I want to get this but Bangai-o...

I do have a shinkansen ride this weekend. Might as well pick it up I suppose.

sprsk · (03-25-2008, 01:53 AM)

I must say, the running thing is big for me and it kinda ruins the pace of the game, imo.

None of the Super Dodge Ball games since the NES one have got that right.

Whoever is localizing this game, INCREASE THE SPEED.

thebagofsand · (03-25-2008, 02:44 AM)

Still looking forward to English release. Here's hoping the multiplayer is good. :D

Redd · (03-25-2008, 02:49 AM)

Originally Posted by sp0rsk

I must say, the running thing is big for me and it kinda ruins the pace of the game, imo.

None of the Super Dodge Ball games since the NES one have got that right.

Whoever is localizing this game, INCREASE THE SPEED.

So the original still reigns supreme that's a bit dissapointing. They should just update the originals graphics include multiplayer and put it online for download.

rareside · (03-25-2008, 04:39 PM)

Saw this at the store the other day, but I passed for the time being.

Do you see yourself getting much more play out of it, despite the speed issues?

My DS has been collecting dust lately. It'd be nice to have another gem to play.

Skiptastic · (03-25-2008, 04:57 PM)

Originally Posted by sp0rsk

5. You go shopping at the same store as River City Ransom!

Which store? I need to go to Mao's. I NEED MY FUCKING PEPPER BEEF!

Fio · (03-25-2008, 05:01 PM)

Is it import friendly?

sk3tch · (03-25-2008, 05:03 PM)

Originally Posted by MoogPaul

I remember getting punched in the face during high school gym dodge ball myself. It's amazing how realistic these games are getting now.

I lol'd.

This game showed up in my Gold Box at Amazon.com today, strangely enough. Amazon says it'll be out at the end of May. I pre-ordered it...$28.49 and you can punch people? I'm in.

Sciz · (03-25-2008, 07:07 PM)

How's the music? Any remixes from past entries? I haven't seen any footage with sound, and the NES original had my favorite soundtrack on the system.

jj984jj · (04-15-2008, 02:03 AM)

Looks like Aksys read this topic:

The biggest change in the gameplay over the Japanese edition is the game speed -- we thought that it would be a subtle shift at first when we saw Aksys' reps playing the game before we got to play, but in actuality, the difference seems to be a significant change.

http://ds.ign.com/articles/866/866155p1.html

HK-47 · (04-15-2008, 02:07 AM)

Originally Posted by jj984jj

Looks like Aksys read this topic:

http://ds.ign.com/articles/866/866155p1.html

HOT DAMN!

besada · (04-15-2008, 02:09 AM)

Love the game, just don't really play handhelds. Any word on iterations for PSN or XBLA?

IzumiK · (04-15-2008, 02:10 AM)

So how does this game compare to my PC Engine version?

HK-47 · (04-15-2008, 02:11 AM)

Originally Posted by besada

Love the game, just don't really play handhelds. Any word on iterations for PSN or XBLA?

People who dont play handheld are only ruining it for themselves. Its the best gaming this gen

sprsk · (04-15-2008, 02:13 AM)

Originally Posted by jj984jj

Looks like Aksys read this topic:

http://ds.ign.com/articles/866/866155p1.html

Game design by way of forum posting. It's a shame I don't get paid.

Be happy you guys are getting the superior version! I might just import it!

besada · (04-15-2008, 02:16 AM)

Originally Posted by HK-47

People who dont play handheld are only ruining it for themselves. Its the best gaming this gen

I own them both, but I just never get around to playing them. Tiny screens.

ivysaur12 · (04-15-2008, 02:26 AM)

Originally Posted by jj984jj

Looks like Aksys read this topic:

http://ds.ign.com/articles/866/866155p1.html

Sold.

TreIII · (04-15-2008, 02:44 AM)

Originally Posted by sp0rsk

Game design by way of forum posting. It's a shame I don't get paid.

Be happy you guys are getting the superior version! I might just import it!

Thanks, sp0rsk. :lol

Looks like this will definitely be one instance where I'll be more than happy to support domestic.

Kipe · (04-15-2008, 04:28 AM)

So american version plays better than the japanese version. This is like Guilty Gear all over again. Why does Aksys hate japan?:lol

That's cool they fixed the running because I probably wouldn't have bought it.

HK-47 · (04-15-2008, 04:31 AM)

Originally Posted by Kipe

So american version plays better than the japanese version. This is like Guilty Gear all over again. Why does Aksys hate japan?:lol

That's cool they fixed the running because I probably wouldn't have bought it.

If its anything like Guilty Gear, then Japan will get Super Dodgeball+ with a complete story mode =(

TreIII · (04-15-2008, 04:39 AM)

Originally Posted by Kipe

So american version plays better than the japanese version. This is like Guilty Gear all over again. Why does Aksys hate japan?:lol

It's not really AkSys's issue, though.

Arc System Works/Million are the ones who originally made the game, and by all sakes and purposes, hold the original source code. AkSys is an American localization/publishing team. Once the game is in their laps for American distribution, they have the liberty to alter the original product (or more to the point, get their pals at ASW/Million to do so, in the case of these speed and item fixes) in ways that they wish, for the sake of when they set out to distribute "their version" of the product.

That's why the American version is getting the fixes. If anything, blame ASW/Million for not taking the proper measures to make everyone happy in the first place. But AkSys themselves are blameless.

And it's not like this would be the first time things of this sort happened. When River City Ransom was translated from its original Japanese counter-part, new sprites were crafted for the sake of the game (namely the kids you can see walking around), and there were other edits to be had as well.

shidoshi · (04-15-2008, 04:40 AM)

Wait, I'm confused here. In the copy that I spent time with, movement speed felt a bit too slow for me. Now, I haven't played the import version, so I don't know what it was like in the original Japanese release, but the game that I played was still what I considered to be too slow in regards to gameplay. Not so bad that it hurt the game to serious degree, but enough that it kept the game from really being as awesome as I thought it could be.

sprsk · (04-15-2008, 04:43 AM)

Originally Posted by shidoshi

Wait, I'm confused here. In the copy that I spent time with, movement speed felt a bit too slow for me. Now, I haven't played the import version, so I don't know what it was like in the original Japanese release, but the game that I played was still what I considered to be too slow in regards to gameplay. Not so bad that it hurt the game to serious degree, but enough that it kept the game from really being as awesome as I thought it could be.

Sounds like you played the JP version then?

shidoshi · (04-15-2008, 04:51 AM)

Originally Posted by sp0rsk

Sounds like you played the JP version then?

Well, was the Japanese version completely in English?

Kipe · (04-15-2008, 04:52 AM)

Originally Posted by TreIII

It's not really AkSys's issue, though.

Arc System Works/Million are the ones who originally made the game, and by all sakes and purposes, hold the original source code. AkSys is an American localization/publishing team. Once the game is in their laps for American distribution, they have the liberty to alter the original product (or more to the point, get their pals at ASW/Million to do so, in the case of these speed and item fixes) in ways that they wish, for the sake of when they set out to distribute "their version" of the product.

That's why the American version is getting the fixes. If anything, blame ASW/Million for not taking the proper measures to make everyone happy in the first place. But AkSys themselves are blameless.

And it's not like this would be the first time things of this sort happened. When River City Ransom was translated from its original Japanese counter-part, new sprites were crafted for the sake of the game (namely the kids you can see walking around), and there were other edits to be had as well.

I wrote Aksys meaning the entire company Arc System Works since it's much shorter to type out. Isn't Aksys just a subsidary of Arc System Works? I don't know the details.

jj984jj · (04-15-2008, 05:12 AM)

Originally Posted by Kipe

I wrote Aksys meaning the entire company Arc System Works since it's much shorter to type out. Isn't Aksys just a subsidary of Arc System Works? I don't know the details.

Aksys is an American publisher, they probably have a good relationship with ASW so they do a lot of their games.

CamHostage · 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by TreIII

Since I don't have the game (yet), maybe some one could also enlighten me: is it possible to make it so that you can form different formations with your team-mates? I have fond memories of making my dudes stand on each other, totem-style, in order to form another way to kick-ass... :lol

No, I don't think so. All of the killer moves I've done so far in the Japanese version have been the five-step-dash attacks and the jump-apex attacks. No team tricks that I've seen. I actually don't understand what the purpose of the sideline characters in this version is because of that, they're so underpowered and uncontrollable that I always just pass back to my main team unless I've got an opponent in a juggle situation.

Originally Posted by sp0rsk

I must say, the running thing is big for me and it kinda ruins the pace of the game, imo.

I'm not quite sure what you're talking about with the running, it does feel slow overall to me but proportional in the running and regular movement against the scale of the court ad size of the players. Between the different attacks you can do with the ball and the fighting (which is fun at the line), the pace feel balanced to me. The overall speed isn't really very exciting, however.

Originally Posted by shidoshi

Wait, I'm confused here. In the copy that I spent time with, movement speed felt a bit too slow for me. Now, I haven't played the import version, so I don't know what it was like in the original Japanese release, but the game that I played was still what I considered to be too slow in regards to gameplay. Not so bad that it hurt the game to serious degree, but enough that it kept the game from really being as awesome as I thought it could be.

There are videos out there of both the Japanese and US versions of the game. It doesn't look like it's exponentially faster in the US version over the import. They certainly didn't amp up the US version to make it a peppy version totally different from the import, it's just tuned a little.

Originally Posted by Redd

So the original still reigns supreme that's a bit dissapointing. They should just update the originals graphics include multiplayer and put it online for download.

See, I guess I must have missed the boat back with NES (I played RCR and Crash and the Boys and some of the other Technos games, but never had a friend with SDB and only played it by emulation much later), but I don't really find the 8-bit game very fun or complex... not something that would make for kick-assed classic if it was remade on XBLA. Maybe I'd like it better multiplayer, but I wonder if it's nostalgia that's keeping the flame alive for this one. The NeoGeo Super Dodge game, however, totally rocks! And the DS game, despite being slow, feels to me like the NES game but done right with some modern enhancements, whereas the GBA game for some reason annoyed me.

Takeda Kenshi · (04-15-2008, 06:05 AM)

I was sold before, but now, I'm super sold.

cw_sasuke · (05-31-2008, 07:10 PM)

Come on people ...where is the love ? Anything new on a PAL Release yet ?

I NEED THIS GAME - even if the 1up review was a let-down (C+) .... but who cares..

thx for the impressions sp0rsk - are there any differences between the japanese and US version ?

PepsimanVsJoe · (05-31-2008, 07:28 PM)

I like the game but it feels kind of worthless if you have nobody to play against(I don't).

Aside from dominating the AI over and over again and leveling there's not too much to the singleplayer. =/

cw_sasuke · (05-31-2008, 07:30 PM)

Originally Posted by PepsimanVsJoe

I like the game but it feels kind of worthless if you have nobody to play against(I don't).

Aside from dominating the AI over and over again and leveling there's not too much to the singleplayer. =/

Uh no online ? meh... but i`m still gettin it....

clockradiospeakers · (06-01-2008, 02:25 AM)

The American version still feels slow (I got it today). 'tis a shame, as I don't really want to have to buy the hundreds of Speed Boots (or whatever they're called) in order to rectify that. And having played this, the NES, NeoGeo and GBA versions, I think I prefer the GBA over them all. It was speedier and pressing 'L' would make your teammates run/jump towards the center of the court- which added a nice level of strategy.