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Mindlog
(03-28-2008, 04:22 AM)
 
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#101

Originally Posted by TemplaerDude:
oh right because rock paper scissors is just the be all end all rts design.

facepalm sigh >:\

Why do stalwarts of dogma have to keep going on with this inane bullshit obvious truth. To believe that SC2 isn't going to be complex and that its current iteration doesn't have the subtleties of DoW or CoH, well keep thinking that @_@

Christ, console threads always have the durr durr, my favorite platform crowd. You'd think PC threads would have a little more dignity.


DoW 2 = awesome

SC2 = awesome

This thread = DoW 2.

More DoW 2 info please.
TemplaerDude
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(03-28-2008, 04:35 AM)
 
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#102

oh get off your high horse i'm trying to add some excitement to my life.
Mindlog
(03-28-2008, 04:38 AM)
 
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#103

pfft, want excitement?

try balancing yourself on a high horse! thing's trying to kill me, and it's about to visit the glue factory.
Technosteve
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(03-28-2008, 04:55 AM)
 
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#104

So what this is telling me is that when Company of Heroes 2 comes out in 3 years it will look better then Crysis. Guess its time to upgrade the old pc with my big fat government rebate check.
Fragamemnon
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(03-28-2008, 05:01 AM)
 
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#105

I saw the scans, when Relic puts up some official screens when the PC gamer reveal comes out in early April you will say WOW.
Technosteve
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(03-28-2008, 05:05 AM)
 
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#106

Great is it time to get Viiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiista yet seems this would be worth it to see the eye candy in the new engine. I have to say COH already looks amazing i don't know how they are going to top themselves. i want to see leaked photo copies damns it.
Decado
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(03-28-2008, 05:17 AM)
#107

Originally Posted by Minsc:
If every RTS were like CoH, they'd be boring. Let them be unique, DoW is different from the others, but you're certainly titled to your opinion, I know I have mine Either way, DoW 2 does sound different than the first. I'm curious to see screens and also videos.
True...but all other RTS games seem pretty much the same, to me. I'd take a clone of CoH over the 10000th "traditional" RTS, any day.

Quote:
Check out the two points above that one... the bit about over the top animations, yeah. Fear not, limbs will be flying.
Cool.
KyanMehwulfe
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(03-28-2008, 05:29 AM)
#108

Originally Posted by DubloSeven:
All my dicks are cumming.
This is the correct Slaanesh answer.
Shouta
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(03-28-2008, 05:33 AM)
 
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#109

Rawr, DoW needs more inspiration from KAG!

Anyway, I can't wait to see how this looks. =o
Tendo
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(03-28-2008, 05:41 AM)
 
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#110

This is the game to make me install vista to take advantage of my 8800. Probably get a bigger processor and 2 more gigs of ram as well :) Thats the only benefit of it being a year + off.
Mindlog
(03-28-2008, 05:50 AM)
 
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#111

What's all this then?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8mmv44doIo

FAKE!??? We distort, you decide.,
Spruce Moose
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(03-28-2008, 06:00 AM)
 
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#112

Fook yahh!!!

I loved DoW and the Dark Crusade expansion. I can't wait for the official reveal.
Matt_A
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(03-28-2008, 06:04 AM)
#113

*Edit* - Yes, I was not thinking posting copyrighted images here. I read so many forums, I sometimes I forget which forum I'm on

Last edited by Matt_A : 03-28-2008 at 06:15 AM.
vilmer_
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(03-28-2008, 06:05 AM)
 
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#114

SHIT. I thought this thread said "Dead Rising 2! The Immortal Emperor (Frank West) Be Praised"! One tomany beverages tonight,

/leaves thread quietly
Fragamemnon
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(03-28-2008, 06:11 AM)
 
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#115

For what it is worth, Matt_A, there is no greater calling than to be banned in loyal service of the Immortal Emperor.
Rabbit Lord
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(03-28-2008, 06:12 AM)
 
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#116

Originally Posted by vilmer_:
SHIT. I thought this thread said "Dead Rising 2! The Immortal Emperor (Frank West) Be Praised"! One tomany beverages tonight,

/leaves thread quietly

Why bring up such a shitty game?
Spruce Moose
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(03-28-2008, 06:12 AM)
 
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#117

Whoa!

Very nice.
Fragamemnon
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(03-28-2008, 06:13 AM)
 
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#118

Dead Rising would have been 1000000% cooler with Necrons instead of zombies, to be fair.

Relic's essence engine is a BEAST, wow.

Last edited by Fragamemnon : 03-28-2008 at 06:30 AM.
Technosteve
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(03-28-2008, 06:14 AM)
 
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#119

Looks like they are increasing the modeling details of units.
DubloSeven
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(03-28-2008, 06:16 AM)
 
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#120

I want some screens.
Gasgul
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(03-28-2008, 06:48 AM)
 
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#121

interesting on the 6 count on squads,

from all reports i will be dousing myself in purple body paint and heading for a smart cocktail at Mr.Fister's when this comes out,

re:slanesh
TemplaerDude
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(03-28-2008, 07:01 AM)
 
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#122

uhh i missed out on those i want them.

** wow it looks like... like the best thing i've ever seen...

Last edited by TemplaerDude : 03-28-2008 at 07:17 AM.
kozmo7
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(03-28-2008, 07:40 AM)
 
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#123

I love you Relic, I already can't wait.
Phife Dawg
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(03-28-2008, 08:38 AM)
 
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#124

YES! Sounds awesome.

Waaagh!

Originally Posted by SupahBlah:
ER WE GO ER WE GO ER WE GO
VaLiancY
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(03-28-2008, 08:45 AM)
 
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#125

This Warhammer you people speak off, I'm intrigued by it. Its art, its designs, especially those warships of dreadnought scale tickle my fancy. I shall Wikipedia and Deviantart it, then I will be enlighten and after the enlightenment shall come fanatic or admirer of it.

NinjaDOF[MSV]
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(03-28-2008, 09:15 AM)
#126

Why can't the REAL Starcraft 2 please stand up.

Dawn of War 2, I bow before thee.
FieryBalrog
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(03-28-2008, 09:29 AM)
 
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#127

I am pretty hyped for this whole thing.


Originally Posted by Ventrue:
Only 6 squads makes me like the sound of this. I really suck at multitasking.

What :? Thats the only thing that sounds like it really sucks.

With 6 squads only your army is pretty much just going to be one small blob that travels together =(

Originally Posted by Druz:
I would argue Relic has a bigger challenge balancing COH than the relatively safe rock paper scissor blizzard games. FANBOY ARGUEMENT COMMENCE.

People who think like this have no idea about the actual depth of balancing behind Starcraft.

"RPS" my ass... counters are much harder in the DoW/CoH series if anything.

Last edited by FieryBalrog : 03-28-2008 at 09:33 AM.
FieryBalrog
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(03-28-2008, 09:37 AM)
 
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#128

Originally Posted by TemplaerDude:
oh right because rock paper scissors is just the be all end all rts design.

Starcraft isn't Rock Paper Scissors any more than DoW is. If anything its less.

In fact, all infantry is just about useless against Vehicles in DoW, unless of course theyre AV infantry, in which case they own Vehicles. Etc.

On the other hand, no matter the damage/armor system in SC, almost all "counter pairs" are soft counters dependent on the tactical control and upgrade levels and various other factors. Are mutalisks a counter to m&m or vice versa? Theres no answer because it depends on several other factors. And there isn't the convenient division of everything into vehicles vs infantry.

Last edited by FieryBalrog : 03-28-2008 at 09:44 AM.
Sinatar
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(03-28-2008, 09:50 AM)
 
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#129

Originally Posted by FieryBalrog:
I am pretty hyped for this whole thing.




What :? Thats the only thing that sounds like it really sucks.

With 6 squads only your army is pretty much just going to be one small blob that travels together =(



People who think like this have no idea about the actual depth of balancing behind Starcraft.

"RPS" my ass... counters are much harder in the DoW/CoH series if anything.

Have you played Company of Heroes, you generally don't have more then that on the field at any time and it's a far cry from one small blob.

I also assume that those squads are infantry, vehicles are probably separate as they were in the first game.
Dina
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(03-28-2008, 10:29 AM)
 
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#130

I'm not too hyped, but I guess it's nice. Needs screenshots though.
Xapati
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(03-28-2008, 10:43 AM)
 
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#131

Originally Posted by FieryBalrog:
Starcraft isn't Rock Paper Scissors any more than DoW is. If anything its less.

In fact, all infantry is just about useless against Vehicles in DoW, unless of course theyre AV infantry, in which case they own Vehicles. Etc.

On the other hand, no matter the damage/armor system in SC, almost all "counter pairs" are soft counters dependent on the tactical control and upgrade levels and various other factors. Are mutalisks a counter to m&m or vice versa? Theres no answer because it depends on several other factors. And there isn't the convenient division of everything into vehicles vs infantry.

They're freakin vehicals, it makes sense you need specific weapons to destroy them.
EvaPlusMinus
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(03-28-2008, 11:22 AM)
 
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#132

uh, those pics are effin' amazing
Hooker
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(03-28-2008, 11:32 AM)
 
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#133

Ok, I want in... Where can I see these 'amazing' screenshots?!?
EvaPlusMinus
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(03-28-2008, 11:41 AM)
 
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#134

Originally Posted by Hooker:
Ok, I want in... Where can I see these 'amazing' screenshots?!?


When in doubt, Google.
Minsc
(03-28-2008, 12:29 PM)
 
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#135

Gimme, gimme, gimme!

I want real screenshots, moire patterns begone! Also, holy shit!!!! Looks nothing like "only six squads," I'm curious to see the first in-depth preview.
cedric69
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(03-28-2008, 01:00 PM)
 
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#136

Originally Posted by Mr. Bunnies:
Why bring up such a shitty game?
Dead Rising is not a shitty game. At all. Not this year, not last year, not this generation. Not ever.
Jenga
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(03-28-2008, 01:32 PM)
 
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#137

oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god
syllogism
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(03-28-2008, 01:41 PM)
 
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#138

Originally Posted by Hooker:
Ok, I want in... Where can I see these 'amazing' screenshots?!?
I've seen the scans and I wouldn't exactly characterize them as 'amazing'. Looks good, but the images are pretty small.
Durante
(03-28-2008, 01:42 PM)
 
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#139

Originally Posted by syllogism:
I've seen the scans and I wouldn't exactly characterize them as 'amazing'. Looks good, but the images are pretty small.
I agree, after reading this thread seeing them was a bit anticlimactic.
Draft
(03-28-2008, 01:57 PM)
 
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#140

It looks great. For an RTS it looks amazing.
Minsc
(03-28-2008, 01:58 PM)
 
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#141

Originally Posted by Durante:
I agree, after reading this thread seeing them was a bit anticlimactic.

I agree, but you have to put it all in perspective, they're scans... things are relative you know. Even the best pictures in the world tend look "ok" once you resize them to 320x240 and throw 40-50% noise over them.

The full size screens and videos will be glorious.
demifiend
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(03-28-2008, 07:51 PM)
 
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#142

Originally Posted by Durante:
COWARDS DIE IN SHAME

I love that line. It almost made me embarassed to turn off the game.
TemplaerDude
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(03-28-2008, 07:57 PM)
 
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#143

Originally Posted by FieryBalrog:
Starcraft isn't Rock Paper Scissors any more than DoW is. If anything its less.

In fact, all infantry is just about useless against Vehicles in DoW, unless of course theyre AV infantry, in which case they own Vehicles. Etc.

On the other hand, no matter the damage/armor system in SC, almost all "counter pairs" are soft counters dependent on the tactical control and upgrade levels and various other factors. Are mutalisks a counter to m&m or vice versa? Theres no answer because it depends on several other factors. And there isn't the convenient division of everything into vehicles vs infantry.

ok i'm not too sure because it's really convoluted and long, but i think you may have just described why it's more rps than any other rts.
Prime crotch
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(03-28-2008, 08:08 PM)
 
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#144

I really hope the specs aren't much higher than CoH, after seeing those pictures.
K.Jack
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(03-28-2008, 08:59 PM)
 
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#145

Really, really short teaser video link edited into the OP.

nvm I need to wait for confirmation on this first....

ok confirmed, teaser's up \0/

Last edited by K.Jack : 03-28-2008 at 09:22 PM.
Minsc
(03-28-2008, 09:00 PM)
 
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#146

Originally Posted by Prime crotch:
I really hope the specs aren't much higher than CoH, after seeing those pictures.

The release is still a year off, of course the specs are going to be higher. I'm not sure if you're trying to say the pictures looked no better than CoH, it's way too soon to be judging graphics.

BfME runs of a tweaked Generals engine, there's plenty of time for them to turn it up a few notches.
Jenga
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(03-28-2008, 09:44 PM)
 
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#147

Damn, all these new details with just the Orkz and Space Marines. Imagine how the Tyranids or IG will look. I'd imagine the tyranids would get random tentacles torn off rather than Battle Armor in melee.
Prime crotch
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(03-28-2008, 09:50 PM)
 
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#148

Originally Posted by Minsc:
The release is still a year off, of course the specs are going to be higher. I'm not sure if you're trying to say the pictures looked no better than CoH, it's way too soon to be judging graphics.

BfME runs of a tweaked Generals engine, there's plenty of time for them to turn it up a few notches.
It looks amazing but I don't know. Relic has already got some backlash from CoH high requirements and making DoW2 requirements that much higher than CoH's doesn't seem a good idea.
Echoes
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(03-29-2008, 02:34 AM)
 
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#149

Looking forward to it, but I need to get Soulstorm first.

Umm.. err.. is it ok to post the scans? I have them on my server but I'm not sure if it's ok.
iapetus
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(03-29-2008, 02:37 AM)
 
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#150

Originally Posted by Echoes:
Looking forward to it, but I need to get Soulstorm first.

Umm.. err.. is it ok to post the scans? I have them on my server but I'm not sure if it's ok.

No, it isn't okay.
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