[Skittleguy]

It stopped...
OMG so good.

[mikekennyb]

Favorite part of that episode was the exchange between the Chief and the mutineer turned counter-coup guy.

"Who am I supposed to be?"

"I dunno... asshole."

:lol

[Kak.efes]

Not claw marks. Adama sees a similar tear on the hull in his quarters. The ship is simply falling apart. It was supposed to be decommissioned years ago- this was before dozens of altercations with the cylons, withstanding multiple nuclear blasts, escaping a supernova, and making an atmospheric jump.

[Phoenix]

Question: Anyone else get the impression that the FTL drive had huge claw marks?

No the impression I got was that the ship was on its last legs. The FTL and engine room must be near the core interior of the ship and even there in one of the most crucial and protected parts of the ship, the hull is giving out. Galactica is itself on its last legs - the refuge that would seem they would be able to sit on forever is running out of time so they need to find somewhere to be - stat. This is also hinted to a lot in the "this used to be one hell of a ship" diatribe and many of the scenes which illustrate the ship pretty much dark/underpowered/dirty and in a constant state of disrepair.

[Kak.efes]

.. It pretty much ended the possibility of the ‘Gaeta and Hoshi Save the World with Math’ spin-off that I was working on…”

:lol

I would have watched that!

[Juice]

And was I the only one expecting Lee would get shot bye some guy still hiding somewhere after his whole grenade maneuver?

Oh yeah, I was sure they were setting that shot up for him to get plugged from the right side.

it's been a ritual of mine (and many other people) to close my eyes once the drumbeat kicks in.

Absolutely agreed. Once the arc kicked into high gear around the end of season 3, I've fast-forwarded the high speed spoiler set.

[Juice]

No the impression I got was that the ship was on its last legs. The FTL and engine room must be near the core interior of the ship and even there in one of the most crucial and protected parts of the ship, the hull is giving out. Galactica is itself on its last legs - the refuge that would seem they would be able to sit on forever is running out of time so they need to find somewhere to be - stat. This is also hinted to a lot in the "this used to be one hell of a ship" diatribe and many of the scenes which illustrate the ship pretty much dark/underpowered/dirty and in a constant state of disrepair.

You know, I totally agree with you on the theme they're setting up, but I think more practically (as a maintenance engineer), had a realization that had they jumped the ship would have imploded or killed everyone. I expect a token statement to this effect in the next episode.

[RSTEIN]

I know no one else in this thread is biased, but is there a dramatic series that even holds a candle to this one? Ever?

Star Trek Voyager.

[BorkBork]

Star Trek Voyager.

:lol :lol :lol

I'm not even the biggest fan of BSG and that's just..

:lol :lol :lol

[RSTEIN]

:lol :lol :lol I'm not even the biggest fan of BSG and that's just.. :lol :lol :lol

Wat. Star Trek Voyager was the most compelling and engaging series on TV during its run. Really put the other Treks to shame (except maybe the short lived Enterprise, which was the best of them all).

[BorkBork]

Wat. Star Trek Voyager was the most compelling and engaging series on TV during its run. Really put the other Treks to shame (except maybe the short lived Enterprise, which was the best of them all).

Now I know you're joking. Knock it off, it's getting scary.

[AndersTheSwede]

Wat. Star Trek Voyager was the most compelling and engaging series on TV during its run. Really put the other Treks to shame (except maybe the short lived Enterprise, which was the best of them all).

[RSTEIN]

Now I know you're joking. Knock it off, it's getting scary.

Joking? Are YOU joking?

[DrForester]

Star Trek Voyager.

[Juice]

Star Trek Voyager.

:lol, whether this is a joke post or not, I really did love just about the entire Voyager run. I try not to advertise that fact, since it's so (rightly) panned critically as being largely pulp.

[RSTEIN]

:lol, whether this is a joke post or not, I really did love just about the entire Voyager run. I try not to advertise that fact, since it's so (rightly) panned critically as being largely pulp.

Yeah, I liked it too. It had a naive charm about it.

The correct answer to the inquiry is:

The Wire
The Shield
Deadwood

[Wolfwood0]

Wat. Star Trek Voyager was the most compelling and engaging series on TV during its run. Really put the other Treks to shame (except maybe the short lived Enterprise, which was the best of them all).

You cant be serious...

I know no one else in this thread is biased, but is there a dramatic series that even holds a candle to this one? Ever?

Dont get me wrong im a huge fan of the show and it definitely has is moments, but The Shield, The Wire, Deadwood, Rome, Sopranos, Rescue Me....

I dunno im sure i could go on, but if it wasn't for all the religious bullshit they've been throwing out in the last couple seasons then the show could have been on of the great dramas. I think everyone can agree that eps like these that focus on survival and internal conflicts of the characters are miles above the ones dealing with the prophecy nonsense.

[KHarvey16]

I dunno im sure i could go on, but if it wasn't for all the religious bullshit they've been throwing out in the last couple seasons then the show could have been on of the great dramas. I think everyone can agree that eps like these that focus on survival and internal conflicts of the characters are miles above the ones dealing with the prophecy nonsense.

Last couple seasons? The whole religion thing has been a central theme the entire time.

[rhfb]

So I didn't think this deserved its own thread, but I'm LTTP. Watched the Miniseries last night and it was GOOD. Things that make me sad are the fact that there isn't a Blu Ray release out right now, and the fact that the DVDs are so damn expensive. I'm just going to have to netflix my way one disc at a time through the entire series, but that is going to take forever :( Any word on a Blu Ray release, or place where I can pick up seasons for less than 50$ ? I'll peak back into this thread at my post and try not to read anything else since I don't want to be spoiled :(

ANYONE??? :( I want to catch up so badly, but not for nearly 200$ for a nonHD release :(

[∀ Narayan]

Brilliant episode.

Seriously, that's all I have.

I'm pretty speechless.

[The Storyteller]

Wat. Star Trek Voyager was the most compelling and engaging series on TV during its run. Really put the other Treks to shame (except maybe the short lived Enterprise, which was the best of them all).

:lol :lol :lol

I dunno im sure i could go on, but if it wasn't for all the religious bullshit they've been throwing out in the last couple seasons then the show could have been on of the great dramas. I think everyone can agree that eps like these that focus on survival and internal conflicts of the characters are miles above the ones dealing with the prophecy nonsense.

I really don't get the complaints about religion in the show (which have been prominent from the get go, not just the past two seasons). It would be incredibly unrealistic if after all they've been through people wouldn't turn to religion. There's hope in religion.
And please don't try and speak for everyone. You lose all credibility when you dictate how you think everyone feels or should feel.

I do think the Baltar cult has been the weakest plot line this season, However it feels like they are making a joke out of it now, because they realize what a misstep it was.

[Darklord]

And on a related note: Tricia Helfer is awesome. What an amazing actress she's turned out to be, and I'm going to miss seeing all of the Sixes in their various iterations. Head-Six, Gina, Natalie, Caprica Six, Godfrey... at times it was almost easy to forget they were played by the same woman.

Where is head-six? She's been gone for a while now.

[anaron]

Where is head-six? She's been gone for a while now.

EDIT: I got Caprica Six and Head Six mixed up.:lol

[Gowans]

Wow I just watch the last ep, intense! The Quarum part was so brutal. You do not mess with Odama.

[Neptune]

Regarding the whereabouts of Gaius' Head Six, in a deleted scene from 4.0's "Escape Velocity", she says she's leaving him. A quote: "You’re not alone any more, Gaius. You’ll be tested in ways you’ve never imagined, but you have your faith now. There’ll be other angels to help light your path." Here's a link where you can see the scene in question. Personally, I think the decision to cut such an important shift in one of the entire series' central relationships and relegate it to a DVD extra feature is offensive. In addition to that, you can see that in this link to official promotional pictures for "Sometimes A Great Notion" that she apparently appears on Earth at some point, yet we didn't get to see it. Furthermore, according to Bear McCreary's blog, in the scene where Gaius is having his crisis of faith in "A Disquiet Follows My Soul", Head Six re-appears to comfort Gaius in the version of the scene the composer was responsible for scoring.

I would assume that her return to the broadcast versions of the episodes is inevitable, and will probably coincide with the explanation of the nature of the head-characters that Ronald D. Moore promised. However, all of these omissions only serve to obliterate layers and textures to Gaius and Head Six' interesting relationship in the versions of the episodes that maybe 80% of the audience will ever see. At least having them re-integrated into the episodes on the DVDs would make it less tragic, but as far as I know they didn't bother with that for the 4.0 release.

[Wolfwood0]

:I really don't get the complaints about religion in the show (which have been prominent from the get go, not just the past two seasons). It would be incredibly unrealistic if after all they've been through people wouldn't turn to religion. There's hope in religion. And please don't try and speak for everyone. You lose all credibility when you dictate how you think everyone feels or should feel. I do think the Baltar cult has been the weakest plot line this season, However it feels like they are making a joke out of it now, because they realize what a misstep it was.

You guys misunderstand me. I know that the religious aspect of the show has always been there and im not talkng about people turning to religion in tough times. I dont even have any real problem with Baltar's cult.

Im talking about specifically the episodes that delt with validating the prophecy, which imo have been alot more prevalent the last 2 seasons. Before there were internal conflicts that delt directly with their survival, (the presidents mutiny, the Pegasus, new Caprica,). But after that there was a lull where all i was hearing was "prophecy this", "you have a destiny that". I didnt hate the episodes, but i couldnt help but think that the earlier slice of life episodes were better.

Now we get to the last to episodes which everyone on this thread is hailing as a masterpiece and the reason is because they got back to business dealing with real people with problems other than "do we believe the prophecy or not".

You might not agree but hopefully i have explained myself well enough.

[Kung Fu Jedi]

No the impression I got was that the ship was on its last legs. The FTL and engine room must be near the core interior of the ship and even there in one of the most crucial and protected parts of the ship, the hull is giving out. Galactica is itself on its last legs - the refuge that would seem they would be able to sit on forever is running out of time so they need to find somewhere to be - stat. This is also hinted to a lot in the "this used to be one hell of a ship" diatribe and many of the scenes which illustrate the ship pretty much dark/underpowered/dirty and in a constant state of disrepair.

Pretty much exactly what I said several pages back. The ship is not going to continue on forever, they don't have enough supplies to repair it, and it was set to go offline in the first episode. It's gone through hell since then. Finding a new home is becoming more imperative.

[Sir Fragula]

Wow I just watch the last ep, intense! The Quarum part was so brutal. You do not mess with Odama.

Have I missed some really lame joke where people intentionally screw up the spelling of BSG character names?

[Dax01]

I know no one else in this thread is biased, but is there a dramatic series that even holds a candle to this one? Ever?

A lot of the times this show can be melodramatic, but it is the most dramatic show I've ever watched I am 16 (ALMOST 17), though..

[Yaweee]

Regarding the whereabouts of Gaius' Head Six, in a deleted scene from 4.0's "Escape Velocity", she says she's leaving him. A quote: "You’re not alone any more, Gaius. You’ll be tested in ways you’ve never imagined, but you have your faith now. There’ll be other angels to help light your path." Here's a link where you can see the scene in question. Personally, I think the decision to cut such an important shift in one of the entire series' central relationships and relegate it to a DVD extra feature is offensive. In addition to that, you can see that in this link to official promotional pictures for "Sometimes A Great Notion" that she apparently appears on Earth at some point, yet we didn't get to see it. Furthermore, according to Bear McCreary's blog, in the scene where Gaius is having his crisis of faith in "A Disquiet Follows My Soul", Head Six re-appears to comfort Gaius in the version of the scene the composer was responsible for scoring. I would assume that her return to the broadcast versions of the episodes is inevitable, and will probably coincide with the explanation of the nature of the head-characters that Ronald D. Moore promised. However, all of these omissions only serve to obliterate layers and textures to Gaius and Head Six' interesting relationship in the versions of the episodes that maybe 80% of the audience will ever see. At least having them re-integrated into the episodes on the DVDs would make it less tragic, but as far as I know they didn't bother with that for the 4.0 release.

What the fuck is up with the show's editors? How can you delete a scene that important to one of the show's original mysteries?

[Extollere]

Have I missed some really lame joke where people intentionally screw up the spelling of BSG character names?

:lol
my wife said Odama out loud yesterday when she was talking about the episode, I kinda laughed a little, then she corrected herself and said "Obama. ADAMA!!" I lol'd

[~Kinggi~]

I know no one else in this thread is biased, but is there a dramatic series that even holds a candle to this one? Ever?

In strict sci-fi sense, involving space and the future, no other show comes close, since no other show actually attempted to portray the future with the type of realism and emotion BSG does.

But in a dramatic sense, I'd say a show like the X-Files surpasses it (i'm a big fanboy though). It has both the high concept nature BSG does as well as the emotional centers of its characters dealing with a variety of topics.

[Stoney Mason]

I was slightly disappointed there was no further exposition of Gaeta/Hoshi in the main episodes, particularly in light of Gaeta's semi-betrayal of him.

Moore mentions this in his podcast. The Gaeta webisodes were filmed after the fact so they are in essence something that were done as an after idea.

Which sort of makes it even more interesting that Gaeta would have still done all this even without the events that occured in the webisodes.

Obviously two very good episodes. Probably momentum wise the two best since the Pegasus Arc back in Season 2.

If I had to nit pick I would have probably tried to balance the ledger even more so that Gaeta and Zarek were less the obvious bad guys in this instance although of course our true sympathies as an audience are always going to be with Adama.

The Gaeta/Baltar scene at the end was great even though few words were exchanged. One of my favorites scenes of the entire run of the show simply because of the odd history the two share.

[BorkBork]

Moore mentions this in his podcast. The Gaeta webisodes were filmed after the fact so they are in essence something that were done as an after idea.

I wonder why the entire Hoshi angle was put in then. It didn't really accomplish anything.

[Stoney Mason]

I wonder why the entire Hoshi angle was put in then. It didn't really accomplish anything.

Probably just as a dramatic choice for the webisodes. It doesn't ruin anything.

[NimbusD]

Moore mentions this in his podcast. The Gaeta webisodes were filmed after the fact so they are in essence something that were done as an after idea. Which sort of makes it even more interesting that Gaeta would have still done all this even without the events that occured in the webisodes. Obviously two very good episodes. Probably momentum wise the two best since the Pegasus Arc back in Season 2. If I had to nit pick I would have probably tried to balance the ledger even more so that Gaeta and Zarek were less the obvious bad guys in this instance although of course our true sympathies as an audience are always going to be with Adama. The Gaeta/Baltar scene at the end was great even though few words were exchanged. One of my favorites scenes of the entire run of the show simply because of the odd history the two share.

Yeah I also have a few nit picks for otherwise amazing frakking episodes. One of them being Zarek and Gaeta being the obvious badguys where BSG usually tends to sympathise with the bad guys more than this. I think they did this with Gaeta actually, just Zarek really didn't have any real character ark in this situation he's just a driving force of corruption with no beginning or end. Though I do have to give Richard Hatch major props for his portrayal, I read in an interview that he was having major problems ending the show portraying this opaquely evil character and I think some of the personal hurt of that showed through and added a subtle different dimension there.

The other nit pick would be that everything seems to have wrapped up a bit too nicely, being as we started with Dualla commiting suicide, the fleet tearing itself apart, some amazing scenes of Olmos declaring that no one participating will be spared. Then all we see is the two heads of the coup be exicuted without the others who made it possible (again it could have been time/budget constraints) but the way these episodes have been heading I was fully expecting to see hotdog or racetrack up there. I know that's a very small nitpick in the big whole of things but whatever.

Oh and while I'm nitpicking, the president seems to be on and off sometimes, the speech to the fleet was on, while the weak persuasion of the cylons really ticked me off. I would have expected her to put them on a guilt trip about how the coup is coming about as a result of them trying to integrate the cylons into the fleet, making them full citizens. Now the cylons want to run at the first sign of trouble. But no she didn't even touch on that or anything else important.

But really, whatever this show has been so frakking amazing. I love the scene with gaeta and Baltar, and the fact that it was a comment on almost the whole arc of the series in a greater sense. Too often in tv series the writers forget what happened two seasons before and relationships between people lose their context(and in some cases, not naming names, but shows forget what's going on after only a few episodes) but not BSG.

God, I'm going to miss this show.

[Stoney Mason]

Yeah I also have a few nit picks for otherwise amazing frakking episodes. One of them being Zarek and Gaeta being the obvious badguys where BSG usually tends to sympathise with the bad guys more than this. I think they did this with Gaeta actually, just Zarek really didn't have any real character ark in this situation he's just a driving force of corruption with no beginning or end. Though I do have to give Richard Hatch major props for his portrayal, I read in an interview that he was having major problems ending the show portraying this opaquely evil character and I think some of the personal hurt of that showed through and added a subtle different dimension there.

Yeah I meant to post this earlier. Richard Hatch has always done a really great job with Tom Zarek. Zarek is pretty much the closest thing to an evil archetype in BSG but Hatch has always done his best with what he has been given and has sort of given the character a better performance than it deserves. You're completely right in that he's always given the character a certain sort of sadness imo

Moore also points out something a good point in that Zarek is correct in that he wants to kill Adama immdiately because he recognizes him as the threat he is but Gaeta has a different agenda and really wants to convict and make Adama understand he is wrong.

I would have also liked maybe just one scene where Gaeta goes to Adama privately and warns him about his concerns but Adama kind of nicely blows him off. That would have gone a long way towards giving him better motivation. That being said I thought both episodes were great.

[Extollere]

I never sympathized with Zarek, in fact, I've wanted him to die so badly for a long long time. In that respect, the story delivered something that I had been wanting, which was no sympathy for the character, just that he die. My wife was like "YESSSSSSsssssss take that Zarek!!" at the end.

[Treo360]

I always thought that putting Hatch in the series was just a measure to "shut him up." I remember reading that he had nothing but negative things to say about he re-imagined series. I'm glad he's out, pity it took so long to give him the boot.

[Kung Fu Jedi]

I always thought that putting Hatch in the series was just a measure to "shut him up." I remember reading that he had nothing but negative things to say about he re-imagined series. I'm glad he's out, pity it took so long to give him the boot.

He had his own vision of a new Galactica series, and for fans of the original, his ideas were pretty great actually. He even went so far as to film a 7 or 8 minute trailer to pitch it back in the day before Moore's version got picked up. That trailer had a number of of the original actors from the first series reprising their rolls in a "20 years later" kin of approach. It's hard to imagine his "vision" now, because this version turned out so good, and I haven't heard him say anything negative or against the show once it launched and got on track.

Personally I think he was great in the roll of Zarek. I won't miss the character, as he was always an evil bastard, but Hatch was excellent in the roll.

[Stoney Mason]

I always thought that putting Hatch in the series was just a measure to "shut him up." I remember reading that he had nothing but negative things to say about he re-imagined series. I'm glad he's out, pity it took so long to give him the boot.

lol. He did a fine job and he's entitled to his opinion. If they didn't want him on the show I'm sure they wouldn't have ever given him a role. I don't think Ron Moore is a child.

[Stoney Mason]

He had his own vision of a new Galactica series, and for fans of the original, his ideas were pretty great actually. He even went so far as to film a 7 or 8 minute trailer to pitch it back in the day before Moore's version got picked up. That trailer had a number of of the original actors from the first series reprising their rolls in a "20 years later" kin of approach. It's hard to imagine his "vision" now, because this version turned out so good, and I haven't heard him say anything negative or against the show once it launched and got on track. Personally I think he was great in the roll of Zarek. I won't miss the character, as he was always an evil bastard, but Hatch was excellent in the roll.

For those that don't know the backstory.

Hatch wrote, co-directed and executive-produced a Battlestar Galactica trailer, called The Second Coming that won acclaim at science-fiction conventions. He produced the trailer to pressure Universal into creating a new series of Battlestar Galactica that would have been a direct continuation of the original series. Original actors John Colicos (Baltar), Terry Carter (Col. Tigh) and Jack Stauffer (Bojay) appeared in the trailer along with Hatch himself. It is presumed that the actors would have appeared in the series itself. Hatch also believed that he could persuade Dirk Benedict to return and play Starbuck. He also co-authored a series of novels based on continuing the voyage of the Battlestar Galactica with his character (Captain Apollo) replacing Adama as Commander of the Galactica. However, Battlestar Galactica returned to television screens as a re-imagining, rather than the sequel for which Hatch had campaigned. Initially, Hatch was bitterly disappointed by this turn of events and was highly critical of the prospective new series on his web site. However, Hatch developed a respect for Ronald D. Moore, the new series' producer, when he appeared as a featured guest at Galacticon (the Battlestar Galactica 25th anniversary convention, hosted by Hatch) and answered questions posed by a very hostile audience. [1] In 2003, Hatch was offered and accepted a recurring role in the new Battlestar Galactica series. He plays Tom Zarek, a terrorist turned politician, who spent twenty years in prison for blowing up a government building; Hatch has said the character was presented to him as a Nelson Mandela figure, and that he views Zarek as challenging the status quo and working for the common man. In an irony probably intended by the show's producers, Hatch/Zarek spends most of his first episode in heated debate with Captain Apollo, the role that Hatch had played in the original series. He has appeared in several further episodes of the series as a guest star. In 2004, he stated to Sci-Fi Pulse that he had felt resentment over the failure of the Galactica continuation and was left "exhausted and sick... I had, over the past several years, bonded deeply with the original characters and story... writing the novels and the comic books and really campaigning to bring back the show". After accepting the Zarek role, "it was a very deep and profound struggle for me to let go and realize that I was not the creator of the series and it didn’t belong to me... I’ve finally come to terms with and accepted that."

[Freshmaker]

The other nit pick would be that everything seems to have wrapped up a bit too nicely, being as we started with Dualla commiting suicide, the fleet tearing itself apart, some amazing scenes of Olmos declaring that no one participating will be spared. Then all we see is the two heads of the coup be exicuted without the others who made it possible (again it could have been time/budget constraints) but the way these episodes have been heading I was fully expecting to see hotdog or racetrack up there.

Adama was more than a little ticked off when he said that nobody would be spared. It was hardly a practical position to take, and Adama knew this. That's why he refused to kill the rebelling marines that he encountered in the ship. Why he didn't back Starbuck up when she was planning on killing the guy etc.

Too many people had died already, and it wouldn't really help fleet cohesion if he did slaughter them.

[BenjaminBirdie]

You guys misunderstand me. I know that the religious aspect of the show has always been there and im not talkng about people turning to religion in tough times. I dont even have any real problem with Baltar's cult. Im talking about specifically the episodes that delt with validating the prophecy, which imo have been alot more prevalent the last 2 seasons. Before there were internal conflicts that delt directly with their survival, (the presidents mutiny, the Pegasus, new Caprica,). But after that there was a lull where all i was hearing was "prophecy this", "you have a destiny that". I didnt hate the episodes, but i couldnt help but think that the earlier slice of life episodes were better. Now we get to the last to episodes which everyone on this thread is hailing as a masterpiece and the reason is because they got back to business dealing with real people with problems other than "do we believe the prophecy or not". You might not agree but hopefully i have explained myself well enough.

God I feel exactly the same way. What drew me to the show initially was this intense "HOLY FUCK WE'RE IN SPACE AND WE HAVE NO FUCKING WATER" premise. It was completely engrossing. There were, of course, moments of similar engagement throughout the series, but yeah, the religion stuff completely overtook it. I'm liking a return to that mood currently.

[Stoney Mason]

God I feel exactly the same way. What drew me to the show initially was this intense "HOLY FUCK WE'RE IN SPACE AND WE HAVE NO FUCKING WATER" premise. It was completely engrossing. There were, of course, moments of similar engagement throughout the series, but yeah, the religion stuff completely overtook it. I'm liking a return to that mood currently.

I think people are drawn to different elements much like lost. I've always enjoyed the political side of the show and how the fleet is reacting versus some of the more mystical elements of the show or who's the final cylon and such.

In lost lots of people love to speculate about certain mysteries I could care less about.

[BenjaminBirdie]

I think people are drawn to different elements much like lost.

No doubt. That's why it's an awesome show that doesn't stink.

[Kung Fu Jedi]

For those that don't know the backstory.

Thanks for the history Stoney!

I've actually read the first couple of BSG books from Hatch, and they were pretty darn good. In his vision, 20 years have passed and he's in command of the Galactica. Starbuck is the flight commander, and Athena (Apollo's sister in the original version) is the President. The fleet is on the edge of the galaxy, and they haven't seen the Cylons in some years. Turns out the Cylons were in the midst of a massive revolution, but the new Imperious Leader was still determined to find and destroy the fleet.

In one of the books they find a planet that they think they can colonize, but it turns out to be in habited with a race that is in contact with the Cylons, leading to the return of the bad guys. The last book a I read they had found the Pegasus again, and Commander Caine had set up a base of operations on the edge of known space. He build several orbiting foundries and was cranking out newly designed vipers and had three new battlestars. Caine was planning a return to the colonies to take them back from the Cylons. I never read beyond that, but it was a sweet premise. I believe in the last book I read, the Pegasus was destroyed, but the Galactica, along with the three new battlestars, were planning on moving ahead in the serch for Earth.

[JayDubya]

Still wish Zarek was the 5th instead of mass quorum summary execution man, but we'll see where this goes with Ellen, I guess.

[anaron]

Roslin's speech was so damn awesome it just needs to be posted. :P

[Windu]

Gias had a vision (adama getting shot), could he be the dying leader that saves humanity instead of Roslin?