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h3ro
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(07-01-2008, 09:24 PM)
 
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Soul Calibur IV (360) Requires Hard Drive #1

Soul Calibur IV Page on Xbox.com

The Xbox 360 Version of Soul Calibur IV will require the Hard Drive for Xbox 360. This along with the huge install on the PS3 version really makes you wonder about how much optimization Namco Bandai is putting into the game. Its unfortunate for Core/Arcade owners and for 20GB PS3 owners or those reaching the limit of their HD space on both consoles...



EDIT: This is most likely a mistake on Xbox.com


The link shows that Alone in the Dark also requires the hard drive when it clearly doesn't. Just a mistake by the website. Move along everybody...

Last edited by h3ro : 07-01-2008 at 10:51 PM.
chubigans
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(07-01-2008, 09:25 PM)
 
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#2

I DEMAND SOME ANSWERS
PhatSaqs
(07-01-2008, 09:25 PM)
 
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#3

Is this a response thread
Oneself
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(07-01-2008, 09:26 PM)
 
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#4

Originally Posted by chubigans:
I DEMAND SOME ANSWERS

Yeah, it's a fighting game for God's sake!
Zombie James
(07-01-2008, 09:26 PM)
 
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#5

Since i've hated the idea of the Core SKU from the beginning, i'd say this is great news. Send a memo to Rockstar, time to take full advantage of the platform.
MrTroubleMaker
(07-01-2008, 09:26 PM)
 
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#6

Originally Posted by _leech_:
Since i've hated the idea of the Core SKU from the beginning, i'd say this is great news. Send a memo to Rockstar, time to take full advantage of the platform.
I agree
Geoff9920
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(07-01-2008, 09:26 PM)
 
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#7

Why on earth would a fighting game require a harddrive?
jarrod
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(07-01-2008, 09:26 PM)
#8

At least FFXI had a good reason for requiring the HDD... what's Namco's want, I don't wanna clean the X-fridge. :/
Raistlin
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(07-01-2008, 09:26 PM)
 
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#9

That's just weird.

I can understand allowing a full install to lower load times, but it seems weird its mandatory. Then again, if each matches' levels are using a majority of the RAM available, loading times would be pretty terrible if you keep switching.



Originally Posted by Geoff9920:
Why on earth would a fighting game require a harddrive?

see above.

From a data allocation standpoint, a fighting game is actually one of the worst-case scenarios (especially if each level is maxing out RAM).
h3ro
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(07-01-2008, 09:26 PM)
 
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#10

Originally Posted by PhatSaqs:
Is this a response thread

Nope, not a response thread, I just thought it was a separate issue. My Elite HD is empty, doesn't bug me.
MicVlaD
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(07-01-2008, 09:28 PM)
 
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#11

Xbox.com?

Yeah, chances are the information on that page is incorrect. Wouldn't be the first time...
SailorDaravon
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(07-01-2008, 09:28 PM)
 
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#12

Soul Calibur 4 of all games is the one to really force the 360 HDD issue? Not GTA 4? Really? Realllllly? Bizarre as hell.
PhatSaqs
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#13

Originally Posted by h3ro:
Nope, not a response thread, I just thought it was a separate issue. My Elite HD is empty, doesn't bug me.
Cool. Shouldnt be any inconvenience to anyone here anyway.
~Devil Trigger~
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(07-01-2008, 09:28 PM)
 
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zaccheus
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(07-01-2008, 09:28 PM)
 
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#15

there's creatable characters right?
Raistlin
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#16

Originally Posted by SailorDaravon:
Soul Calibur 4 of all games is the one to really force the 360 HDD issue? Not GTA 4? Really? Realllllly? Bizarre as hell.

You can't stream an arena.
Proelite
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(07-01-2008, 09:28 PM)
 
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#17

Most likely its the PS3's fault.
Superfrog
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(07-01-2008, 09:29 PM)
 
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#18

Isn't there a character editor in the game? Maybe that's why there are 2GB save files...

lol @ Namco
Stench
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(07-01-2008, 09:29 PM)
 
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#19

THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT





ARE THEY?
Raistlin
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(07-01-2008, 09:29 PM)
 
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#20

Originally Posted by Proelite:
Most likely its the PS3's fault.

Most likely, you're a troll.
gregor7777
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(07-01-2008, 09:29 PM)
 
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#21

The question, Hero, is will it require up to 9GB as with the PS3 version which is confirmed and is absolutely true?

Because of this it may be the end of the road for the PS3 platform as a whole, but is the 360 doomed also?

Please share your thoughts in this thread which has nothing to do with the other that you posted in.
Hunahan
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(07-01-2008, 09:30 PM)
 
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#22

Someone pointed out in the other thread that Left 4 Dead requires the Harddrive as well.

It will be interesting to see if it's HD-caching or if they are actually talking about installs.

With only - what is it - 14 gigs(?) of free space on the premium's HD, this could turn into a pretty big issue fairly fast.

We definitely need to hear what's going on in better detail.

We also definitely need to hear whether or not SCIV's load times are drastically reduced from, say, VF5. If they aren't......
RiZ III
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(07-01-2008, 09:30 PM)
#23

thats ridiculous. Should have been optional. Well, sucks for xbox core/arcade owners who wanted this.
Cheeto
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Yama
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(07-01-2008, 09:31 PM)
 
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#25

Just make it downloadable then, what the hell is the disc for? :/
Totobeni
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(07-01-2008, 09:31 PM)
 
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#26

Originally Posted by Proelite:
Most likely its the PS3's fault.

?? isn't the X360 the lead platform here ?

Left 4 Dead require HDD too , is it PS3 fault too ?
Metalmurphy
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#27

I fucking hate this generation.


Yet I also love it at the same time
Zombie James
(07-01-2008, 09:31 PM)
 
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#28

Originally Posted by Yama:
Just make it downloadable then, what the hell is the disc for? :/

You're screwed there, too... Live Arcade size limit, lol.
LiK
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(07-01-2008, 09:32 PM)
 
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#29

poor core owners
Xabora
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(07-01-2008, 09:32 PM)
 
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#30

Ivy's massive tits require more space.
Iaido Sword
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#31

Okay, the numbers for the PS3 thing could be a typo, but you can't typo this.
Stench
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(07-01-2008, 09:33 PM)
 
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#32

No seriously, I thought developers weren't allowed to do this on the 360?
Proelite
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(07-01-2008, 09:33 PM)
 
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#33

Originally Posted by Totobeni:
?? isn't the X360 the lead platform here ?

Maybe, but the developers could have seen the benefits of installing on the hard drive, and decided that it was worth it to do it on the 360.
shagg_187
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(07-01-2008, 09:33 PM)
 
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#34

Originally Posted by MicVlaD:
Xbox.com?

Yeah, chances are the information on that page is incorrect. Wouldn't be the first time...

does not compute :/
mr_bishiuk
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(07-01-2008, 09:33 PM)
 
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#35

Originally Posted by Onix:
Most likely, you're a troll.

I think he's being sarcastic perhaps..
WrikaWrek
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(07-01-2008, 09:34 PM)
 
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#36

Awesome.

Right?
h3ro
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(07-01-2008, 09:34 PM)
 
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#37

Originally Posted by gregor7777:
The question, Hero, is will it require up to 9GB as with the PS3 version which is confirmed and is absolutely true?

Because of this it may be the end of the road for the PS3 platform as a whole, but is the 360 doomed also?

Please share your thoughts in this thread which has nothing to do with the other that you posted in.


I doubt it will require 9GB on the 360. I doubt it will have a very large install at all actually, I think NB just needed the HD to cache files temporarily and these files are larger than the larges memory card available on 360. Poor optimization for PS3 code (which they had difficulties with to begin with) is why their is such a huge file install/save on the PS3 side.
gregor7777
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(07-01-2008, 09:34 PM)
 
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#38

Originally Posted by Yama:
Just make it downloadable then, what the hell is the disc for? :/

And this, my friends, is where we are headed. And I love it.

Originally Posted by h3ro:
I doubt it will require 9GB on the 360. I doubt it will have a very large install at all actually, I think NB just needed the HD to cache files temporarily and these files are larger than the larges memory card available on 360. Poor optimization for PS3 code (which they had difficulties with to begin with) is why their is such a huge file install/save on the PS3 side.

That save file size is funny, but must be incorrect. What would you store in a 2GB save file? DLC is another matter entirely.
Valkyr Junkie
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(07-01-2008, 09:34 PM)
 
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#39

Originally Posted by Hunahan:
With only - what is it - 14 gigs(?) of free space on the premium's HD, this could turn into a pretty big issue fairly fast.

MS and the 60GB SKU to the rescue
WickedLaharl
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(07-01-2008, 09:34 PM)
 
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#40

this is not the first game on xbox.com to list a game like this. i believe oblivion did as well.
LCfiner
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(07-01-2008, 09:34 PM)
 
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#41

Originally Posted by Hunahan:
Someone pointed out in the other thread that Left 4 Dead requires the Harddrive as well.

It will be interesting to see if it's HD-caching or if they are actually talking about installs.

With only - what is it - 14 gigs(?) of free space on the premium's HD, this could turn into a pretty big issue fairly fast.

We definitely need to hear what's going on in better detail.

We also definitely need to hear whether or not SCIV's load times are drastically reduced from, say, VF5. If they aren't......

Isn't the reason there's only 14 GB free is because 6 GB is reserved for the caching that L4D and SCIV would be using?

So, you don;t need to worry about deleting downloaded demos or movies... but the cache could fill up fast, forcing reinstalls of game data if you play a lot of these HDD req'd games...
madmook
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(07-01-2008, 09:34 PM)
 
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#42

Fuck Core/Arcade users and especially fuck Microsoft for even putting out the Core/Arcade versions.
sneaky77
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#43

Originally Posted by Stench:
No seriously, I thought developers weren't allowed to do this on the 360?

It was bound to happen sooner or later
Slayer-33
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(07-01-2008, 09:35 PM)
 
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#44

Originally Posted by Xabora:
Ivy's massive tits require more space.



I'm sorry but HAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!!
sneaky77
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#45

Originally Posted by Proelite:
Maybe, but the developers could have seen the benefits of installing on the hard drive, and decided that it was worth it to do it on the 360.

Well if the rumor of 2gb saves are true.. is likely because of that, not because of an install.
Totobeni
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#46

Originally Posted by Proelite:
Maybe, but the developers could have seen the benefits of installing on the hard drive, and decided that it was worth it to do it on the 360.

so it's good thing , then it's not PS3 fault , it's Microsoft's , for not making the HDD standard in all X360 units/skus
Proelite
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(07-01-2008, 09:36 PM)
 
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#47

Originally Posted by mr_bishiuk:
I think he's being sarcastic perhaps..

No I wasn't.

A trend of mandatory installs started on the PS3, and possibly might be carried over to the 360 if the developers are allowed the freedom by Microsoft.

I would hate it if all my 360 games started to require several gig installs in the future. I have only 9 gigs free.
mr_bishiuk
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#48

So ms doesn't force devs to support the arcade/core then, They just choose too?
BenjaminBirdie
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(07-01-2008, 09:36 PM)
 
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#49

Originally Posted by _leech_:
You're screwed there, too... Live Arcade size limit, lol.

Wat.

Xbox Originals? The copy of Be Kind Rewind I DLed last week?

Or were you just kidding...
Xenon
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(07-01-2008, 09:36 PM)
 
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#50

Customer " I'd like Soul Caliber IV for my 360 Arcade please."

Game store clerk " Sorry the game requires a Harddrive"

Customer in a sad voice" But I dont have a Harddrive"

Game store clerk up holding box w/ Yoda Voice "You will, You will"

Last edited by Xenon : 07-01-2008 at 09:50 PM.
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