Weekly Thread Backfire: Eating steak makes me feel like a king.

[MWS Natural]

A correctly cooked steak doesn't need any steak sauce at all.

If your steak needs any kind of sauce then you are doing it wrong. Surprisingly I've found more Roadhouse Bars that do steak better than most Steak Houses.

[Pelydr]

If you are pouring A1 all over your steak you are not enjoying a steak, you are enjoying beef covered in some fuck horrible sauce. Do you see the difference? A good steak is eaten as cooked, not covered in anything else.

[permutated]

No one else loves a Rib Eye?

I think rib eyes are too soft and chewy, I like my steak a bit more firm.

[Halycon]

No one else loves a Rib Eye?

Rib Eyes are the bomb.

[Sharp]

No one else loves a Rib Eye?

A good Rib Eye is pretty amazing, I must agree.

Hmmm, well here's this: you like it your way I like it mine. Disagree? Too bad I don't give a shit Your opinion means nothing!

My way tastes better though.

[ThatCrazyGuy]

The Rib Eye is the king of steaks!

[permutated]

If you are pouring A1 all over your steak you are not enjoying a steak, you are enjoying beef covered in some fuck horrible sauce. Do you see the difference? A good steak is eaten as cooked, not covered in anything else.

This gang of steak sauce bottles argues otherwise.

PS - Please leave my thread if you're going to be such an elitist douche

[permutated]

A good Rib Eye is pretty amazing, I must agree. My way tastes better though.

Ah! To you it does, but not everyone enjoys food the same way.

I like it through a tube, mostly. Easier to digest.

Besides, the A1 pushes the meat through my veins quicker...or is it slower?...hmmm

[Loki]

BOOM!!!!!! Massive truth bomb dropped

[nomster]

Wronger?

Nicely done, you still ruined your steak.

[kpop100]

Another food topic in OT that backfires on the OP, these are starting to get fun. A1 sauce? Stick to eating cheeseburgers if you are going to fuck your steaks up like that

[AirBrian]

I disagree, I think it accents the flavors beautifully. To me, steak without A1 sauce is like a Picasso exhibit with no lights on.

So even with a good rub and/or pre-cooking seasoning, you still like A1 sauce on it?

[mac]

Why do the people with no taste always make the food threads?

[Resident Guru]

A1 is for peasants. It is only necessary if you are eating an overcooked shitty cut of meat. I used A1 when I was about 9 and didn't know better. A steak should NEVER be cooked past medium.

[Giant Robot]

seriously, if you are really going to sauce up your steak, eat it with horseradish or butter which actually compliments the taste, not take away the taste strongly like A1 sauce.

but in almost all instances, NO SAUCE!

Medium <3


also forgot. Kosher salt >>>>>>> Seat salt for seasoning steak. ALWAYS.

[Sharp]

seriously, if you are really going to sauce up your steak, eat it with horseradish or butter which actually compliments the taste, not take away the taste strongly like A1 sauce. but in almost all instances, NO SAUCE! Medium <3 also forgot. Kosher salt >>>>>>> Seat salt for seasoning steak. ALWAYS.

Should be rare, but to the bolded: ...really? Maybe I should try this, sea salt has always seemed like the pinnacle to me.

[Gildor]

My dad always cooked/ordered steak medium-well and used A-1 so that's what I did. Now I'm 24 and find out I've been eating steak like a "peasant" all this time. Fuck my life.

[kpop100]

My dad always cooked/ordered steak medium-well and used A-1 so that's what I did. Now I'm 24 and find out I've been eating steak like a "peasant" all this time. Fuck my life.

it is true though

[Sharp]

My dad always cooked/ordered steak medium-well and used A-1 so that's what I did. Now I'm 24 and find out I've been eating steak like a "peasant" all this time. Fuck my life.

Some people are being a little crazy in this thread I admit, but if you have a really good cut of steak you should really try it rare or medium-rare, medium at most, without A-1. You don't have to like it, but at least try it, and see if your worldview is not changed! Because ultimately it comes down to taste, and for me at least A1 tends to mask the taste of the steak.

[AirBrian]

My dad always cooked/ordered steak medium-well and used A-1 so that's what I did. Now I'm 24 and find out I've been eating steak like a "peasant" all this time. Fuck my life.

If you've been eating medium-well all your life, I wouldn't recommend going straight to the rare. Ease into it. First go to medium, try it without A1 and if necessary, with A1. If you like that, then go rarer from there, but without the A1.

[Pelydr]

Some people are being a little crazy in this thread I admit, but if you have a really good cut of steak you should really try it rare or medium-rare, medium at most, without A-1. You don't have to like it, but at least try it, and see if your worldview is not changed! Because ultimately it comes down to taste, and for me at least A1 tends to mask the taste of the steak.

That is exactly right, a good steak is about the taste of the meat, not the fucking sauce. Nothing wrong with liking A-1 on some sort of beef, but don't call it a good steak. It is beef with a sauce on it. It sounds stupid, but really it really is something to distinguish. The op just sounds like he has really never had a good steak, yet he is raving about some mass produced sauce. :)

[ToxicAdam]

A1 is a condiment. A supplement to the taste of steak. You don't drown your steak in it. You take the small pieces and dip it into a small amount.


I LOVE YOU A1

[Sharp]

A1 is a condiment. A supplement to the taste of steak. You don't drown your steak in it. You take the small pieces and dip it into a small amount. I LOVE YOU A1

Dunno, for me it's always seemed like a condiment in the sense that you might as well be dipping the steak in ketchup :( But to each his own!

[poking cow]

mmm steak =P

Anyone ever try kobe beef steak? that stuff is like butter in your mouth.

For anyone that doesn't know, kobe steak comes from cows that are massaged and fed with wine daily. Hell, they live a better life than most people, that is until their slaughtered.

[Sharp]

mmm steak =P Anyone ever try kobe beef steak? that stuff is like butter in your mouth. For anyone that doesn't know, kobe steak comes from cows that are massaged and fed with wine daily. Hell, they live a better life than most people, that is until their slaughtered.

Oh seriously? That explains a lot. Damn cows, well I guess they have it coming to them

[Zyzyxxz]

mmm steak =P Anyone ever try kobe beef steak? that stuff is like butter in your mouth. For anyone that doesn't know, kobe steak comes from cows that are massaged and fed with wine daily. Hell, they live a better life than most people, that is until their slaughtered.

lol, I couldnt help. I love Harvest Moon btw.

Is there is big difference between American Kobe beef and Japanese ones?

[firex]

I always like my steak medium. I'm one of those people who grew up in a family that overcooked the fuck out of steak so I never had good steak until a lot later.

[Piscopink]

Enjoy your well-done steak.





I'll take this.

[jamesinclair]

[Thaedolus]

So the OP says avoid marbling. The OP also says use A1.

A1 is the crutch of a bad steak, IMO. If you get a well-marbled, well-cooked (but not well done) steak, you shouldn't need A1. I only use A1 when I've got some piece of meat that wasn't cared for properly and needs a little flavor masking.

[Dirtbag]

I prefer a nice rare to mid-rare filet. I've eaten some raw filet before to (soooo good).

My favorite is a nice kobe beef capaccio, I order anywhere I see it.

I will never understand someone that dumps a sauce on a steak. Unless its a garlic-butter type thing.. but only if done properly.

Since I like my beef bloody and rare - I generally avoid the ribeyes as they are just too fatty at that temp. I do enjoy a nice bone-in ny strip though.

I honestly feel that someone who only eats steak with sauce, lacks class - and has never been introduced to a fine steak. I'd rather just eat fish or veal or something else over a medium - well done steak with steak sauce.

/snob

[poking cow]

lol, I couldnt help. I love Harvest Moon btw. Is there is big difference between American Kobe beef and Japanese ones?

Couldn't tell you. I've only tried it when I was in Japan, crazy expensive stuff, but so worth it for the experience =D. The marbling in the steak is insane.

All these steak pictures is making me hungry .....one of the few things better than steak is steak and lobster together

[GoldenEye 007]

A1 is arguably one of the worst possible things you can do to a steak. Well-done is the worst thing you can do. Combined is grounds for imprisonment.

[Dirtbag]

A1 is arguably one of the worst possible things you can do to a steak. Well-done is the worst thing you can do. Combined is grounds for imprisonment.

Couldn't agree more.. may as well be meatloaf at that point.

[ToxicAdam]

Dunno, for me it's always seemed like a condiment in the sense that you might as well be dipping the steak in ketchup :( But to each his own!

Ketchup tastes nothing like A1. Ketchup is loaded with sugar .. A1 is loaded with salt.

[kpop100]

Ketchup tastes nothing like A1. Ketchup is loaded with sugar .. A1 is loaded with salt.

A1 might as well be loaded with shit the way it tastes.

[Somnia]

Just had a new york strip steak for dinner with A1 steak sauce...and damn was it good!

[ToxicAdam]

A1 might as well be loaded with shit the way it tastes.

I'm sorry you were born with genetically flawed taste buds. Maybe there will be a cure one day.

[Butane123]

I haven't had a good steak in awhile, and this thread doesn't help the craving.

I'll have to pick up some rib eye or a filet soon... maybe with some shrimp or a lobster tail.

Man, I'm hungry now.

[Easy_G]

Just say no to steak sauce. All it really needs is a little salt and pepper.


But if it turns out dry or overcooked then this is a life saver:

[nerbo]

I'm not sure how one could ever classify "the best" steak, with so many cuts and their various strengths and weaknesses, but if I had to pick just one way to steak it, this would be the way:

1) Start with a well-marbled, dry-aged, USDA prime sirloin or strip
2) Drizzle a light coating of oil
3) Lightly salt (iodized is NOT ok) to seal juices, then rub with cracked peppercorns
4) Crank the heat and sear on both sides with a skillet/plate, never flip more than once and only with tongs, never a fork!
5) Don't eyeball or ballpark it and never cut in to determine how it's cooked - Use a meat thermometer. When it hits 140 degrees, take it off the skillet/plate and let it rest for 5 minutes so the juices sink back to the outsides of the meat from the center.
6) Drizzle ever so slightly with balsamic glaze if desired.

The end product should be browned on the surface (but not burnt) and a perfect medium-rare inside - And with the dry-aged beef, the outside fat should be almost crispy like bacon. If you absolutely insist your steak be cooked beyond medium-rare, take the skillet off the top and finish it for a couple more minutes in the oven so the surface doesn't burn.

If you desire onions/mushrooms/peppers/garlic/shallots/etc.- cook and season them to taste separately and lay over the top only once the steak is finished. A balsamic or bordeaux reduction is fine, but make it with your vegetables, not with your steak, so you don't taint the flavor of the beef while it cooks. The meat should always be able to stand alone - if it doesn't, you didn't cook a good steak, there is no covering that up.

A1 only exists to cover up the taste of shitty and/or overcooked beef. If the cow knew you were pouring that junk on otherwise, it would've kicked your sorry ass for abusing it's marbled goodness.

EDIT: Nothing wrong with grilling a steak over flame, but sear it and seal it first, dammit.

[The Take Out Bandit]

I'm a bad carnivore.

I don't appreciate the taste of dead animal. :\

I like my meats carbonized and re-constituted with A1 or Heinz 57.

I should maybe stop disrespecting the animals that die for my meals, and go eat a salad - but A1 tastes like shit on lettuce. :(

[santouras]

I'm a big fan of sloshing large amounts of garlic on my steak before I cook it. Also, fat + medium rare = awesome. Well done.... you might as well be eating leather.

[ksan]

Are sauces like bearnaise forbidden in the US?

Not that a New York Steak or any other good steak would be bad without sauce, but some of you guys only talk about A1 etc., which is the big mystery of American cuisine for me.

[Giant Robot]

at new thread title

[slidewinder]

I love the taste of rare steak, I'd think to cook it even less, just to warm it, if it weren't for food poisoning.

As long as you make sure and cook the outsides of it, you aren't going to get food poisoning. It's very unlikely that you would even if you just scarfed the thing down raw, for that matter, unless maybe if it smelled bad before you ate it.

[slidewinder]

I'm not sure how one could ever classify "the best" steak, with so many cuts and their various strengths and weaknesses, but if I had to pick just one way to steak it, this would be the way: 1) Start with a well-marbled, dry-aged, USDA prime sirloin or strip 2) Drizzle a light coating of oil 3) Lightly salt (iodized is NOT ok) to seal juices, then rub with cracked peppercorns 4) Crank the heat and sear on both sides with a skillet/plate, never flip more than once and only with tongs, never a fork! 5) Don't eyeball or ballpark it and never cut in to determine how it's cooked - Use a meat thermometer. When it hits 140 degrees, take it off the skillet/plate and let it rest for 5 minutes so the juices sink back to the outsides of the meat from the center. 6) Drizzle ever so slightly with balsamic glaze if desired.

Pat the steak dry with paper towels before you put the oil on (and keep the oil to a minimum, as you said). You don't want that surface moisture steaming the meat; this extra step can really improve the crust.

[Karakand]

If it doesn't moo when I stick my fork in it I'm not interested.

[OnkelC]

Sauce or not sauce, what't the deal? Good meat can cope with everything and a decent sauce compliments each cut quite nicely. My faves are herbal butter, hollandaise or a green pepper/cognac sauce:












Hell, even a vodka/onion/apple sauce is a great addition:

[Deadly Monk]

I had 100 dollar steak in Tokyo last night. It was delicious. Thank god it didn't need A1. I love A1 sauce but it is insulting to the chef if they used seasoning on it.