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deepbrown · (08-23-2008, 10:15 PM)

Originally Posted by Bugnology:

It means that NOW this game runs and looks like shit.

Huh? Why? We've only seen the PS3 version...

Rolf NB · (08-23-2008, 10:16 PM)

Originally Posted by Shaheed79:

Pretty much. This game is a must buy for me but I don't expect it to do anywhere NEAR as well as Benjamin seems to imply. He's talking like it's the next Bioshock or Call of Duty. :lol

I see it more like EA's version of Assassin's Creed actually, and that game sold tons, for better or worse.

[Nintex] · (08-23-2008, 10:17 PM)

I don't think that this game will be an exclusive. It's more or less an example of EA's new course they simply can't take the risk with this unproven franchise. EA's new course has gotten them in the red and they need to make up for those losses otherwise they will turn into the sequel factory again. Multiplatform=More sales, timed-exclusives are just stupid.

Ike · (08-23-2008, 10:19 PM)

Originally Posted by deepbrown:

Huh? Why? We've only seen the PS3 version...

People's sarcasm meters must be broken today.

deepbrown · (08-23-2008, 10:21 PM)

Originally Posted by Ike:

People's sarcasm meters must be broken today.

I was hungry to take the bait.

Originally Posted by [Nintex]:

I don't think that this game will be an exclusive. It's more or less an example of EA's new course they simply can't take the risk with this unproven franchise. EA's new course has gotten them in the red and they need to make up for those losses otherwise they will turn into the sequel factory again. Multiplatform=More sales, timed-exclusives are just stupid.

It is multiplatform. Timed exclusive can get more sales BTW.

deepbrown · (08-23-2008, 10:23 PM)

Originally Posted by diss:

As well regarded as Heise.de is by Germans, David Reeves is not well regarded by me.

But if true, way to go SCEE. Your competence level just went up by +10, you are currently at -937.

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neoism · (08-23-2008, 10:29 PM)

Originally Posted by TwIsTeD:

i hope it is a timed exclusive, i need to get more use out of my ps3 so it makes me :D

this I usually Pick the 360 version over the PS3 every time, sense this game is Lead on PS3 I'm happy if true, otherwise LBP is the only game I'm getting for the ps3 and I need to buy more games for it.

[Nintex] · (08-23-2008, 10:30 PM)

Originally Posted by deepbrown:

I was hungry to take the bait.

It is multiplatform. Timed exclusive can get more sales BTW.

I don't think that timed exclusives work. They have to set up marketing twice because someone decided to spread releases. Not to mention that hype dies as soon as the game is out. This game will be frontloaded just like many other singleplayer FPS games. I'm pretty certain David Reeves is full of shit.

WrikaWrek · (08-23-2008, 10:31 PM)

Originally Posted by bcn-ron:

I see it more like EA's version of Assassin's Creed actually, and that game sold tons, for better or worse.

Ah, i hope EA doesn't think they have an Assassins Creed on their hands. Not even close.

Kusagari · (08-23-2008, 10:31 PM)

Originally Posted by bcn-ron:

I see it more like EA's version of Assassin's Creed actually, and that game sold tons, for better or worse.

Assassin's Creed had some of the most brilliant marketing in video game history. Mirror's Edge has had nothing so far.

diss · 10:39 PM

Actually, instead of money changing hands to buy timed exclusivity, it could just be the case that EA wants to get it out on a system this holiday season. According to Wikipedia it looks like the PS3 is the lead platform so maybe they just want to get it out on that for the holiday rush and release it on the 360 and PC as soon as those ports are done. In which case it's a question of whether a new IP released exclusively on PS3 during a packed holiday season makes more financial sense than holding onto it and releasing it on all platforms later.

Oreoleo · (08-23-2008, 10:36 PM)

Originally Posted by [Nintex]:

I don't think that timed exclusives work. They have to set up marketing twice because someone decided to spread releases. Not to mention that hype dies as soon as the game is out. This game will be frontloaded just like many other singleplayer FPS games. I'm pretty certain David Reeves is full of shit.

But this is a FPP :(

Ike · (08-23-2008, 10:36 PM)

Originally Posted by Kusagari:

Assassin's Creed had some of the most brilliant marketing in video game history. Mirror's Edge has had nothing so far.

[IMG]http://i37.************/10qavq0.jpg[/IMG]
*cough*

Iksenpets · (08-23-2008, 10:38 PM)

Originally Posted by diss:

Actually, instead of money changing hands to buy timed exclusivity, it could just be the case that EA wants to get it out on a system this holiday season. According to Wikipedia it looks like the PS3 is the lead platform so maybe they just want to get it out on that for the holiday rush and release it on the 360 and PC as soon as those ports are done.

It's a UE3 game though, so it's not like they developed a big engine on PS3 and are having to port it over, it's designed for quick and easy multiplatform ports, and if anything it favors the 360. And it's coming from DICE who has already done a multiplat release. It doesn't seem like porting should be a big issue for them at all.

J-Rzez · (08-23-2008, 10:42 PM)

Originally Posted by Sushen:

One is "funding" while the other is "dumping money"...Hmm...

You can switch both those quoted words around as far as I care if it doesn't make you as mad. It means no different. If MS was "funding" into expansion of 1st parties like how Sony was "dumping money" into theirs, who wouldn't want that? I guess if you hate games totally catered to pushing your favorite machine's capabilities?

Y2Kev · (08-23-2008, 10:44 PM)

Well I have to go cancel a preorder.

[Nintex] · (08-23-2008, 10:46 PM)

Originally Posted by Ike:

[IMG]http://i37.************/10qavq0.jpg[/IMG]
*cough*

A big stand at a European games convention isn't great marketing...

This game needs to be on heavily marketed and release on all systems at the same time.

Evlar · (08-23-2008, 10:47 PM)

Originally Posted by Iksenpets:

It's a UE3 game though, so it's not like they developed a big engine on PS3 and are having to port it over, it's designed for quick and easy multiplatform ports, and if anything it favors the 360. And it's coming from DICE who has already done a multiplat release. It doesn't seem like porting should be a big issue for them at all.

It's possible the coding difficulty isn't in the graphics engine.

chubigans · (08-23-2008, 10:47 PM)

Originally Posted by Iksenpets:

It's a UE3 game though

It is, but it has a whole new lighting engine as well. So I dunno how much that relies on the PS3 architecture, if at all.

Pimpbaa · (08-23-2008, 10:48 PM)

Timed excusives benefits no one except the ones getting the timed exclusive. This screws over a lot of gamers and Dice (new unproven IP on a platform with fickle gamers could potentially mean bad sales).

Kafel · (08-23-2008, 10:53 PM)

Let's wait and see Sony getting the exclusive advertising for this game.

Iksenpets · (08-23-2008, 10:54 PM)

Originally Posted by chubigans:

It is, but it has a whole new lighting engine as well. So I dunno how much that relies on the PS3 architecture, if at all.

True, I suppose. Still seems like an unlikely excuse for a developer as technically competent as DICE, though.

Fizzle · (08-23-2008, 10:56 PM)

It's probably fake.

chubigans · (08-23-2008, 10:56 PM)

For those who don't think Mirror's Edge won't sell well... I dunno, I thought Assassin's Creed and especially Bioshock were hard sells to begin with, and they both did fantastic during the holidays. Mirror's Edge actually isn't quite as hard to sell in a one minute commercial IMO.

travisbickle · (08-23-2008, 10:58 PM)

I thought this was common knowledge? I'm sure I read it in a British magazine, it sounded to me like it was more out of necessity to get Christms sale then anything else

Grecco · (08-23-2008, 10:59 PM)

Originally Posted by chubigans:

For those who don't think Mirror's Edge won't sell well... I dunno, I thought Assassin's Creed and especially Bioshock were hard sells to begin with, and they both did fantastic during the holidays. Mirror's Edge actually isn't quite as hard to sell in a one minute commercial IMO.

Assasins Creed was multi plataform, and Bioshock came out in August where there wasnt much other than Madden.

Agent Icebeezy · (08-23-2008, 11:00 PM)

Originally Posted by chubigans:

For those who don't think Mirror's Edge won't sell well... I dunno, I thought Assassin's Creed and especially Bioshock were hard sells to begin with, and they both did fantastic during the holidays. Mirror's Edge actually isn't quite as hard to sell in a one minute commercial IMO.

Assassin's Creed had star written all over it and Bioshock was helped greatly by the demo.

Evlar · (08-23-2008, 11:00 PM)

Originally Posted by Grecco:

Assasins Creed was multi plataform, and Bioshock came out in August where there wasnt much other than Madden.

Launching a game in November typically isn't detrimental to sales, assuming the publisher is willing to advertise.

(Really... where did this "November = kiss of death" idea come from?)

[Nintex] · (08-23-2008, 11:01 PM)

Originally Posted by chubigans:

For those who don't think Mirror's Edge won't sell well... I dunno, I thought Assassin's Creed and especially Bioshock were hard sells to begin with, and they both did fantastic during the holidays. Mirror's Edge actually isn't quite as hard to sell in a one minute commercial IMO.

This will be released in November, just in time for Gears 2, COD: World at War and Resistance 2 to go head to head. Bioshock released just before the holiday season and didn't have alot of competition. Assasins Creed was a different type of game and the marketing was insane.

Mirror's Edge exclusive=Bomb total, multiplatform would give the game more advertisment and coverage not to mention that both Sony and MS pick it up in their campagins so it's a win-win situation.

chubigans · (08-23-2008, 11:01 PM)

Originally Posted by Grecco:

Assasins Creed was multi plataform, and Bioshock came out in August where there wasnt much other than Madden.

Assassin's Creed did really well just on the 360 and PS3 alone. Together, it did even better.

Mirror's Edge would be a great March release, but it would fair fairly well in a holiday release too.

Kyoufu · (08-23-2008, 11:03 PM)

The best marketing they can give for this game is a solid demo. I'm sure people will flock to buy it after that.

Hopefully they advertise it too and hopefully it turns out to be a great game (with great reviews).

Y2Kev · (08-23-2008, 11:03 PM)

Assassin's Creed had YEARS of buzz built around it. Say what you want about Jade, but her role in selling the game was a stroke of genius.

ME is nowhere close.

Come onnnnnn 360 day and date, I had to fight with EBgames and the bank to get them to authorize the preorder and if I have to do it again I will just rent the game :(

cartoon_soldier · (08-23-2008, 11:04 PM)

Originally Posted by Grecco:

Assasins Creed was multi plataform, and Bioshock came out in August where there wasnt much other than Madden.

Assasin's Creed had some good marketing behind it, plus, MS especially pushed the game for the 360 and it did great in its showings. Bioshock, I think the demo and the hype (which it deserved) that it generated sold a lot of people. I also think Bioshock had a good TV advertising campaign.

Although, the concept of Mirror's Edge is harder to sell than Bioshock, AC.

Zoc · (08-23-2008, 11:04 PM)

Pretty stupid. Timed exclusives work on giant-name titles, because those titles have hype built in to them. Timed exclusivity on GTA or Final Fantasy would be a huge benefit to whatever console company gets it.

Timed exclusivity for a new game, though, can only dilute the hype for a game and harm the game's developer, without really benefiting the console maker.

BTW, personally, I only care about whether a game is any good or not, but unfortunately, good games can't really succeed without a whole shady network of ads, magazines, web sites, and game stores getting behind them. Timed exclusivity just cuts all of that in half, and cuts in half the chances that the same developer could make another great, innovative game.

WrikaWrek · (08-23-2008, 11:06 PM)

Originally Posted by J-Rzez:

You can switch both those quoted words around as far as I care if it doesn't make you as mad. It means no different. If MS was "funding" into expansion of 1st parties like how Sony was "dumping money" into theirs, who wouldn't want that? I guess if you hate games totally catered to pushing your favorite machine's capabilities?

What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

Y2Kev · (08-23-2008, 11:10 PM)

I don't see why gamers like or defend timed exclusives of any sort in any instance.

TrueReligion · (08-23-2008, 11:11 PM)

Originally Posted by Y2Kev:

I don't see why gamers like or defend timed exclusives of any sort in any instance.

system wars, man.

Ceb · (08-23-2008, 11:12 PM)

Originally Posted by Y2Kev:

Assassin's Creed had YEARS of buzz built around it. Say what you want about Jade, but her role in selling the game was a stroke of genius.

ME is nowhere close.

Come onnnnnn 360 day and date, I had to fight with EBgames and the bank to get them to authorize the preorder and if I have to do it again I will just rent the game :(

What made you go for the 360 version?

[Nintex] · (08-23-2008, 11:13 PM)

Originally Posted by Y2Kev:

I don't see why gamers like or defend timed exclusives of any sort in any instance.

This thread should be the prove that it won't work for this game and that it needs better marketing, only 5 pages?

klixman · (08-23-2008, 11:13 PM)

why is the ps3 so powerfull in your minds?
I really cant understand it! Whats gone wrong with the gaf lateley?
FFS! I have all said playthings, but even my uneducated eye can see that the xb360 is the top dog in the gfx dept. its fucked up to say otherwise. stop using your cack propoganda to fuck with normal folks minds . plz. ps3 is good , but its not as good as its faulty precurser. stop trying to brain wash people u fucks. BAN ME. I wish i had the heart to be a true fan boy, but sadly i dont have it. take care all, uk banality inc signing out. I do love my ps3 though! sorry, useless rant . please ignore :(

Y2Kev · (08-23-2008, 11:14 PM)

Originally Posted by Ceb:

What made you go for the 360 version?

I didn't know it was leading on PS3, lol. I'm sort of used to going 360 for multiplatform stuff. Plus, reading GAF, I've been socialized into the Microsoft machine!

I also like to have the 360 version so I can trade with people at school (360s are more common), but gradually this is changing too.

[Nintex] · (08-23-2008, 11:14 PM)