GI November cover - Dragon Age Origin

[butsomuch]

http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Sto...1803.54149.htm

If you’ve been paying attention to the world of RPGs over the past decade, you probably couldn’t help but notice the name BioWare. From Baldur’s Gate to Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic to Mass Effect, the developer has been behind some of the most acclaimed and memorable RPG experiences in recent memory. Their latest, Dragon Age Origins, continues their tradition of melding mature themes, compelling stories and addicting gameplay, and we’ve got exclusive details on it—including the skinny on the console editions of the game. As if that’s not enough, the November issue also has an exclusive 10-page look at Valve Software, filled with behind-the-scenes info and details on Left 4 Dead. Also, we chat with Braid creator Jonathan Blow on his newfound fame and what he has in store for us in his next game. Check out these stories and much, much more in the November issue of Game Informer Magazine.

[Wollan]

Does it support online? I played a lot of BG2 online.

[Ventrue]

Does it support online? I played a lot of BG2 online.

They've said no multiplayer.

In before bitching about consolification, new Bioware etc.

[Mindlog]

I'm not buying it until we get Mass Effect 2 info.

Sip on that banana daiquiri and fret you bastards.

hansolofication etc etc

[SPEA]

Kind of a disappointing cover to be honest. GI usually brings the exclusives.

[Vaporak]

Like, three years ago I was pretty hyped about this game. Now, it just strikes me as yet another data point to watch Biowares slide into mediocrity.

[Ganondorfo]

Kind of a disappointing cover to be honest. GI usually brings the exclusives.

You don't expect that developers should announce every month a new game.


BTW this magazine has the reviews of gears of war 2 and resistance 2 probably.

[Sean]

Not very interested in Dragon Age Origin, just wanted to say it's awesome that an indie XBLA game/developer made the cover of GI. These types of games almost never get any coverage or mention in magazines.

[dude]

After seeing videos of the game, I have no expectations.

[Wollan]

They've said no multiplayer. In before bitching about consolification, new Bioware etc.

Fall from greatness.

[Mifune]

Sweet sweet Bioware.

Those of you bitching about their fall from greatness need to accept the fact that they're never going to remake BG2. Accept it and move on.

[Vaporak]

Sweet sweet Bioware. Those of you bitching about their fall from greatness need to accept the fact that they're never going to remake BG2. Accept it and move on.

I have, that's why I don't expect anymore great RPG's out of Bioware. But who says I can't play their mediocre ones?

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

I hope the console version of Dragon Age come out soon after the PC version. I'd normally prefer the PC version, but my current PC is ass and I won't have the money for awhile to upgrade to anything decent.

[AlexM]

man I REALLLY hope this brings them back to the Baldurs gate days..


sorry about the console bitching but it's true (outside of mass effect, I still havent played that yet, but kotor left a bad taste in my mouth)

[bounchfx]

yay for papyrus? ugh.

either way, very excited for this game.

[miyamotofreak]

Dragon Age Origins makes me think it's going to be gimped like Spore's Origins. I know one's an iPhone game but still...

[Accident]

There's going to be a comfy couch edition?? now i'm interested in the game.

[jon bones]

I hope the console version of Dragon Age come out soon after the PC version. I'd normally prefer the PC version, but my current PC is ass and I won't have the money for awhile to upgrade to anything decent.

has a console version been announced? i thought this was just a PC game...

my laptop sucks, so i'd like to play this on my 360 if possible.

[Ventrue]

By the way, the 'exclusive console version talk' will likely be then reconfirming that there will be a console port at some stage.

[dude]

I just noticed the talking about Console Edition on the cover. Sigh. Some spiritual successor to BG2 that turned out to be :|

[ghst]

I just noticed the talking about Console Edition on the cover. Sigh. Some spiritual successor to BG2 that turned out to be :|

my hope for that died as soon as 'origins' was confirmed.

videogames don't have stories anymore, they just have semi coherent acts.

[soldat7]

Console edition? Now I'm interested!

[ItAintEasyBeinCheesy]

What was the news from the last mag, theres now news/review thread or anything.

[Draft]

Already with the console versions.

[Drek]

Sweet sweet Bioware. Those of you bitching about their fall from greatness need to accept the fact that they're never going to remake BG2. Accept it and move on.

Black Isle didn't go on to remake Fallout or Fallout 2 either, but a bunch of the people involved did make Arcanum and NWN2's excellent expansion.

Back in the day Black Isle and Bioware held their own in a discussion with Blizzard as excellent PC devs. Now Black Isle is scattered to the wind, Bioware is turning out the western equivalent of Tales games (solid but unspectacular) and Blizzard keeps rolling out the hits.

The Witcher was better than anything Bioware has made recently.

[Regulus Tera]

I saw "Dragon" and "Origins" and thought this would be about the DS DB game.

Oh, such a sad world. :(

[soldat7]

Now Black Isle is scattered to the wind, Bioware is turning out the western equivalent of Tales games (solid but unspectacular) and Blizzard keeps rolling out the hits.

So what's Mass Effect? Chopped liver?

I mean sure, it's no Planescape Torment but hey, it beats 99% of the console RPG offerings out there.

[AlexM]

Black Isle didn't go on to remake Fallout or Fallout 2 either, but a bunch of the people involved did make Arcanum and NWN2's excellent expansion. Back in the day Black Isle and Bioware held their own in a discussion with Blizzard as excellent PC devs. Now Black Isle is scattered to the wind, Bioware is turning out the western equivalent of Tales games (solid but unspectacular) and Blizzard keeps rolling out the hits. The Witcher was better than anything Bioware has made recently.

So true, the day troika died was a sad one indeed.

[ciaossu]

It's coming to consoles?

[rainking187]

By the way, the 'exclusive console version talk' will likely be then reconfirming that there will be a console port at some stage.

It says PS3 and 360 versions late 2009, with a couple of screenshots of the 360 version.

[Vaporak]

So what's Mass Effect? Chopped liver? I mean sure, it's no Planescape Torment but hey, it beats 99% of the console RPG offerings out there.

Mass Effect is a bad RPG tacked on to a bad shooter, with story that's "good for a video game". It's not an accomplishment I'd praise and only further cements Bioware's fall from grace when compared to it's competitors or Bioware's own past games.

[Draft]

Console Bioware > PC Bioware

Mass Effect > Baldur's Date

Jagged little pill for the PC faithful, but the sooner you choke it down, the sooner you can move on and enjoy quality Console Bioware fare like Sonic and the Dark Brotherhood.

[Ventrue]

Mass Effect > Baldur's Date

I don't remember the space lesbian sex scene from Baldur's Gate. :)

Baldur's Gate II > Mass Erect

[AlexM]

Console Bioware > PC Bioware Mass Effect > Baldur's Date Jagged little pill for the PC faithful, but the sooner you choke it down, the sooner you can move on and enjoy quality Console Bioware fare like Sonic and the Dark Brotherhood.

this post combined with your title can only lead me to blieve this post reeks of sarcasm

[Ventrue]

this post combined with your title can only lead me to blieve this post reeks of sarcasm

No, the title is a punishment.

[bathala]

The Witcher was better than anything Bioware has made recently.

I have to wait for Bioware's fantasy RPG (Dragon Age), but Witcher is damn good mature RPG

[HK-47]

So true, the day troika died was a sad one indeed.

Isnt Obsidian mostly made up of people from Black Isle and Troika with a smattering of Valve, Blizzard and Bioware employees?

[super metroid]

and yes, obsidian is made up of people from the aforementioned teams.

[dude]

Godamnit, I hope Bioware chokes on all the money they're gonna make from bringing it to consoles.

[AlexM]

Isnt Obsidian mostly made up of people from Black Isle and Troika with a smattering of Valve, Blizzard and Bioware employees?

Is it?



Well I would imagine game developers would love to snatch up the talent in troika, but unfortunately I doubt it will be as good as the original Troika days. They had bug problems, that's undeniable, but the underlying gameplay was in my eyes some of the best RPG fare I've ever played. Arcanum's use of the SPECIAL system I actually enjoyed much more than the fallout series.


I'm glad to see obsidian picked up the loose talent from troika. I'm a tad ashamed to admit according to their website I've never played any of their games. I'll now keep an eye on alpha protocol though as well as put NWN2 on my giant "games to play on the new pc list".

[Rad Agast]

I can't wait for this game. They said this is as close as it will get to a BG sequel.

[Acid08]

Theres an awesome 10 page Valve feature. They have a HL2 arcade machine

[Ristamar]

Isnt Obsidian mostly made up of people from Black Isle and Troika with a smattering of Valve, Blizzard and Bioware employees?

Yeah, in today's terms I think of Obsidian as the creators of Baldur's Gate moreso than Bioware. Unfortunately, the enthusiast presss doesn't seem quite as enamored with Obsidian for whatever reason (lack of advertising dollars, I assume). That being said, I am cautiously optimistic regarding Dragon Age.

[JasonUresti]

Is it? Well I would imagine game developers would love to snatch up the talent in troika, but unfortunately I doubt it will be as good as the original Troika days. They had bug problems, that's undeniable, but the underlying gameplay was in my eyes some of the best RPG fare I've ever played. Arcanum's use of the SPECIAL system I actually enjoyed much more than the fallout series. I'm glad to see obsidian picked up the loose talent from troika. I'm a tad ashamed to admit according to their website I've never played any of their games. I'll now keep an eye on alpha protocol though as well as put NWN2 on my giant "games to play on the new pc list".

Don't forget, Obsidian is developing a RPG for Sega, based on the Aliens license.

[AlexM]

Don't forget, Obsidian is developing a RPG for Sega, based on the Aliens license.

I noticed when I googled them. I'm not a big aliens fan, but if the gameplay is good it could star the care bears for all I care.



now if you visit the obsidian website and look at the games tab, is that not all the games they developed? it seems a little slim


EDIT: I think I may be getting obsidian mixed up with black isle..


man I'm looking at the black isle gameography and man, talk about a solid record.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Isle_Studios

* Fallout (1997)[6] * Fallout 2 (1998) * Planescape: Torment (1999) * Icewind Dale (2000) * Icewind Dale: Heart of Winter (2001) * Icewind Dale: Heart of Winter - Trials of the Luremaster (2001) * Icewind Dale II (2002) * Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance II (2004) Among the products whose development Black Isle assisted are: * Baldur's Gate 1998 * Baldur's Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast (1999) * Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn (2000) * Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal (2001) * Lionheart: Legacy of the Crusader (2003) Two compilations bearing their name were also released: * Black Isle Compilation (2002) * Black Isle Compilation Part Two (2004) [edit] References

[soldat7]

Mass Effect is a bad RPG tacked on to a bad shooter, with story that's "good for a video game". It's not an accomplishment I'd praise and only further cements Bioware's fall from grace when compared to it's competitors or Bioware's own past games.

Mass Effect is hardly a 'bad' game. Then again, some people don't like the Dave Matthews Band so anything is possible. ;)

I'm curious who these amazing competitors are that put BioWare to shame...I'm not playing the right games apparently.

[Spoit]

Yeah, in today's terms I think of Obsidian as the creators of Baldur's Gate moreso than Bioware. Unfortunately, the enthusiast presss doesn't seem quite as enamored with Obsidian for whatever reason (lack of advertising dollars, I assume). That being said, I am cautiously optimistic regarding Dragon Age.

It's probably because they don't do console games, and as everyone knows, olol the PC is dead

[Wollan]

Obsidian needs to learn how to model human beings.

[Prime crotch]

Obsidian needs to learn how to model human beings.

What? Aren't you thinking of Bethesda?

[szaromir]

my hope for that died as soon as 'origins' was confirmed. videogames don't have stories anymore, they just have semi coherent acts.

You've gotta be kidding. Baldur's Gate's story was complete bullshit and REALLY boring. Newer Bioware games are ways better in regards to story and writing.