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Andrex · (10-23-2008, 06:26 AM)

Apparently, nine days from today. Yes I'm thick and somehow missed that when it was announced.

If those cam-pics weren't shopped then I don't see what the complaining's about, unless you were looking for a new camera to take real photos with.

I think the built-in storage and SD slot have huge potential, I'm hopping Nintendo taps it with downloadable VC games (or at least, DSi-exclusive GB/GBC games).

Kai Ozu · (10-23-2008, 06:31 AM)

I just want pokemon gold and silver version.

-Kh- · (10-23-2008, 06:32 AM)

They want to counter the 3000 as soon as possible o.O;

Linkhero1 · (10-23-2008, 06:32 AM)

Originally Posted by Kai Ozu:

I just want pokemon gold and silver version.

this

Andrex · (10-23-2008, 06:33 AM)

Originally Posted by Kai Ozu:

I just want pokemon gold and silver version.

Who wouldn't? They are the best of the series.

Someone said something interesting in an old DSi thread, that Nintendo's going to launch the DSi in America around the same time as it releases Platinum- a one-two punch like the original NSMB+DS Lite combo. That'd be neat.

Originally Posted by -Kh-:

They want to counter the 3000 as soon as possible o.O;

Yeah, seeing the latest Famitsu numbers I finally realized why Nintendo brought this out. The camera probably appeals to the Japanese a lot.

Barakov · (10-23-2008, 06:34 AM)

One of the hinges on my DS has cracked and the other one has come off completely. Despite the price of the DSi it's looking really appealing at this point.

Jonnyram · (10-23-2008, 06:36 AM)

Originally Posted by -Kh-:

They want to counter the 3000 as soon as possible o.O;

Oh, will the DSi have a degraded screen as well? :(

Tenbatsu · (10-23-2008, 06:39 AM)

Am still blur about the camera, it is 0.3 for both or 3.0 for the outside?

Andrex · (10-23-2008, 06:43 AM)

Originally Posted by Jonnyram:

Oh, will the DSi have a degraded screen as well? :(

Did you watch the vid? Although, I dunno if increasing the screen size but keeping the same resolution will have any hazardous effects... hopefully not.

dark steve · (10-23-2008, 06:44 AM)

Originally Posted by Jonnyram:

Oh, will the DSi have a degraded screen as well? :(

Wait what? I thought the screen was improved on the 3000!

Ysiadmihi · (10-23-2008, 06:49 AM)

Originally Posted by dark steve:

Wait what? I thought the screen was improved on the 3000!

Apparently you can see the scanlines on the new PSPs. The screenshots I've seen look pretty distracting.

LAUGHTREY · (10-23-2008, 06:49 AM)

Originally Posted by Barakov:

One of the hinges on my DS has cracked and the other one has come off completely. Despite the price of the DSi it's looking really appealing at this point.

Your product broke and you want to buy another one?

What?

Kilrogg · (10-23-2008, 06:51 AM)

Yeah, I'm sure a double 0.3MP camera with Game Boy Camera functionalities is meant to compete with a regular whatever-numberMP camera.

jump_button · (10-23-2008, 06:53 AM)

Originally Posted by dark steve:

Wait what? I thought the screen was improved on the 3000!

:/

Hive · (10-23-2008, 06:53 AM)

I'm having a friend there pick one up for me~ Can't wait to read impressions from J-GAFers, too.

The only problem I have with the DSi is the battery life. It's still not bad at all, but 1 hour less than the DSLite

swerve · (10-23-2008, 06:54 AM)

Originally Posted by -Kh-:

They want to counter the 3000 as soon as possible o.O;

Yeah, just like the huge DS price cuts, the many high-profile distant future game announcements, and the massive DS advertising push that all happened when PSP 2000 was doing so well this year.

Oh, wait. :)

Barakov · (10-23-2008, 06:55 AM)

Originally Posted by LAUGHTREY:

Your product broke and you want to buy another one?

What?

Stranger things have happened. I'm willing to bet good money that importing a DSi is cheaper than buying another 360.

StuBurns · (10-23-2008, 06:55 AM)

Originally Posted by jump_button:

:/

What the fuck is that shit?
Why would they do that?

dark steve · (10-23-2008, 06:56 AM)

Originally Posted by jump_button:

:/

Oh wow. It's like they accidentally hardcoded a graphics filter from an emulator into it.

Andrex · (10-23-2008, 06:58 AM)

Originally Posted by Kilrogg:

Yeah, I'm sure a double 0.3MP camera with Game Boy Camera functionalities is meant to compete with a regular whatever-numberMP camera.

Maybe you can somehow combine both camera's for 0.9MP pictures! (0.3²)

Originally Posted by Hive:

I'm having a friend there pick one up for me~ Can't wait to read impressions from J-GAFers, too.

The only problem I have with the DSi is the battery life. It's still not bad at all, but 1 hour less than the DSLite

Really? That's still like a bajillion though. :P

Seriously I left my DS Lite on for almost 36 hours in standby once because I didn't want to "save" in Dementium. It probably could've stayed in standby for another 10 or so hours if I had left it alone before turning red.

The bigger screens on the DSi probably have something to do with it. Also, I don't know if the DSi is brighter (impossible?) than the Lite but that could also do it.

VOOK · (10-23-2008, 06:58 AM)

9 Days away and I still can't pre order one.

Any GAFfers in Japan able to get me one I'm being serious, will pay for your time!

Drkirby · (10-23-2008, 06:59 AM)

Originally Posted by stuburns:

What the fuck is that shit?
Why would they do that?

Sony rushed the PSP-3000 when they heard rumors of a new DS coming out?

StuBurns · (10-23-2008, 07:03 AM)

Originally Posted by Drkirby:

Sony rushed the PSP-3000 when they heard rumors of a new DS coming out?

They're insane putting it out in such disgusting condition. They want to rival the DSi then make an announcement for a new version and fix it up later. The fact that there is new hardware is more important than the actual release date.

The only real difference it would seem, is the mic. No games are ever going to require it, outside of Skype it's useless.

later · (10-23-2008, 07:07 AM)

What's that hand drawn game?

Hive · (10-23-2008, 07:15 AM)

Originally Posted by Andrex:

Seriously I left my DS Lite on for almost 36 hours in standby once because I didn't want to "save" in Dementium. It probably could've stayed in standby for another 10 or so hours if I had left it alone before turning red.

The bigger screens on the DSi probably have something to do with it. Also, I don't know if the DSi is brighter (impossible?) than the Lite but that could also do it.

The DSi is confirmed to have another brightness setting.

I'm importing the UK version of Dementium: the Ward. They fixed the save-system finally!

Remember when we first got the DS Lite, and how it made the old games fresh and new again? Well, i imagine DSi doing the same thing.

For example, I haven't touched Trauma Center in ages, but having a little extra screen space to perform should add something~

Andrex · (10-23-2008, 07:17 AM)

Originally Posted by later:

What's that hand drawn game?

I think that's Pictochat.

Originally Posted by Hive:

The DSi is confirmed to have another brightness setting.

I'm importing the UK version of Dementium: the Ward. They fixed the save-system finally!

Remember when we first got the DS Lite, and how it made the old games fresh and new again? Well, i imagine DSi doing the same thing.

For example, I haven't touched Trauma Center in ages, but having a little extra screen space to perform should add something~

Wow, another brightness setting. o_o I already use my Lite as a flashlight sometimes as it is.

Yeah, the Lite made me replay some games. I actually bought NSMB but didn't want to play it until I got my Lite.

-Kh- · (10-23-2008, 07:19 AM)

Originally Posted by swerve:

Oh, wait. :)

Have you actually followed this year's hardware numbers in Japan?

YTD the PSP is the that has sold more consoles, I believe the PSP slowed down when the 3000 was announced a while ago, since then they were always next to each other, or the PSP first.

Nintendo had to do something to keep the DS up and kicking longer, because when you see those 25M users you have to wonder who else is going to buy your console.

But with the DSi coming just after the 3000, it will set them on first place over the PSP on a weekly basis until the end of the year, but who knows if it will be enough to get them surpass PSP's YTD.

Andrex · (10-23-2008, 07:22 AM)

Originally Posted by -Kh-:

Have you actually followed this year's hardware numbers in Japan?

YTD the PSP is the that has sold more consoles, I believe the PSP slowed down when the 3000 was announced a while ago, since then they were always next to each other, or the PSP first.

Nintendo had to do something to keep the DS up and kicking longer, because when you see those 25M users you have to wonder who else is going to buy your console.

But with the DSi coming just after the 3000, it will set them on first place over the PSP on a weekly basis until the end of the year, but who knows if it will be enough to get them surpass PSP's YTD.

You underestimate how much Japan loves Nintendo. :P

Tenbatsu · (10-23-2008, 07:30 AM)

Originally Posted by later:

What's that hand drawn game?

Its a new function where you can create hand drawn animations + add sounds to it and send them to your friends and such.

Haunted · (10-23-2008, 07:33 AM)

I'm mostly waiting for impressions on the larger screens, would be pretty much the only reason I'd buy one.

That and the fact that the touchscreen of my DSL is slowly losing responsiveness.

Originally Posted by jump_button:

Oh wow, I honestly thought the new screens were much better than the old ones. This shot burns.

swerve · (10-23-2008, 07:33 AM)

Originally Posted by -Kh-:

Have you actually followed this year's hardware numbers in Japan?

YTD the PSP is the that has sold more consoles, I believe the PSP slowed down when the 3000 was announced a while ago, since then they were always next to each other, or the PSP first.

Yeah, I have, and it's true that you nowadays see many more people playing PSP on trains and around town in Japan than DS.

And yet it doesn't seem to have bothered Nintendo at all. At their financial meeting they discussed openly the situation. They don't knee-jerk, they just get on with what they want to do. DSi is clearly a part of 'what they want to do' and they must have plans for the SD usage, download store, and permanently installed apps.

Sure, the timing is close to PSP-3000... but isn't that more to do with them both wanting to hit in the run up to the holidays?

Papi · (10-23-2008, 07:37 AM)

You could DJ with two DSis. :o

-Kh- · (10-23-2008, 07:39 AM)

Originally Posted by Andrex:

You underestimate how much Japan loves Nintendo. :P

Tell that to the Nintendo 64 and GameCube :(

Originally Posted by swerve:

Yeah, I have, and it's true that you nowadays see many more people playing PSP on trains and around town in Japan than DS.

And yet it doesn't seem to have bothered Nintendo at all. At their financial meeting they discussed openly the situation. They don't knee-jerk, they just get on with what they want to do. DSi is clearly a part of 'what they want to do' and they must have plans for the SD usage, download store, and permanently installed apps.

Sure, the timing is close to PSP-3000... but isn't that more to do with them both wanting to hit in the run up to the holidays?

Well I do think the decline on sales is mostly to the huge amount of DS already out in the market, so a cap would be reached sooner or later anyway.

But even if Nintendo doesn't say so, it is obvious that they don't want to give out their position as the number one, best selling portable console there.

If Sony ends up first YTD-wise, next year they can use that as a PR-line, and I'm sure Nintendo would be annoyed for it

The DSi is just to keep momentum until the next-gen portable is released in 2+ years

Nuclear Muffin · 07:45 AM

It's ridiculous that we have to wait so long for it, but then again they're probably gonna struggle enough just trying to supply enough to Japan.

Originally Posted by Hive:

I'm having a friend there pick one up for me~ Can't wait to read impressions from J-GAFers, too.

The only problem I have with the DSi is the battery life. It's still not bad at all, but 1 hour less than the DSLite

Depends how bright each setting is, brightness level 2 on a DSi is not necessarily the same brightness as level 2 on a DS Lite.

Andrex · (10-23-2008, 07:42 AM)

Originally Posted by -Kh-:

Tell that to the Nintendo 64 and GameCube :(

Shh, those don't exist in this new N-dominated society. >.>

-Kh- · (10-23-2008, 07:45 AM)

Originally Posted by Andrex:

Shh, those don't exist in this new N-dominated society. >.>

Actually you just reminded me.. I'm off to ebay to get a N64 and some good old RARE games.

Laguna · (10-23-2008, 08:04 AM)

It´s quit ironic that all the features like digital camera, built-in memory that were rumored pre-release for PSP and even more after its release haven´t been included after 3 revisions and then a little company like Nintendo shows its DSi...

Somnid · (10-23-2008, 08:50 AM)

J-Gaffers, Would camping out somewhere like Yodobashi Akiba be a terrible idea? It's right on my usual train line.

sprsk · (10-23-2008, 09:02 AM)

intro vid: the camera is really cool http://touch-ds.jp/dsi/intro.html

VOOK · (10-23-2008, 09:20 AM)

Yes-Asia has Nintendo DSi preorders open, are they good - usually get things quickly or is it worth waiting for Play-Asia?

Darkpen · (10-23-2008, 09:25 AM)

meh.

I can see how this would be definitely something to hold out for, if you don't own a ds or a psp, or just want a handy little mini computer thing to play with your friends, but otherwise, I'm not entirely sold on it. Maybe when they start making games that really take advantage of the system.

Caesar III · (10-23-2008, 09:58 AM)

Originally Posted by Haunted:

That and the fact that the touchscreen of my DSL is slowly losing responsiveness.

what are you doing with your ds? I have a japanese release ds phat and its just fine except for the battery pack

Lyte Edge · (10-23-2008, 10:02 AM)

Originally Posted by Somnid:

J-Gaffers, Would camping out somewhere like Yodobashi Akiba be a terrible idea? It's right on my usual train line.

I am wondering about this myself. Was planning on just hitting the Yamada Denki near me, but I'm going to be in Tokyo that week instead of the much-easier-to-get-new-hardware-inaka where I live, and I don't know if I want to bother camping.

Is the demand for the DSi going to be as insane as the DS Lite was, I wonder?

Mariah Carey · (10-23-2008, 10:04 AM)

Originally Posted by -Kh-:

But even if Nintendo doesn't say so, it is obvious that they don't want to give out their position as the number one, best selling portable console there.

If Sony ends up first YTD-wise, next year they can use that as a PR-line, and I'm sure Nintendo would be annoyed for it

The DSi is just to keep momentum until the next-gen portable is released in 2+ years

I don't agree at all. The development of a DS download service suggests Nintendo has been planning this for a long time, perhaps since the beginning. The first two DS models may even have been precursors and this could be the "real" DS.

I think many people still underestimate just how ambitious Nintendo is. I don't imagine them moving on from the DS until a (new) competitor enters or until everyone has a DS.

Vorador · (10-23-2008, 10:09 AM)

Originally Posted by VOOK:

Yes-Asia has Nintendo DSi preorders open, are they good - usually get things quickly or is it worth waiting for Play-Asia?

I wouldn't be so fast importing the DSi if the downloadable software is region-locked as they said.

EmCeeGramr · (10-23-2008, 12:56 PM)

There's a Japanese-language Iwata Asks on the touch-ds site, if anyone wants to translate: http://touch-ds.jp/dsi/interview/1_1.html

Just looking at Google Translate, it seems they talk about the camera, why they picked an "obsolete" resolution, the decision to drop the GBA slot, the changing from glossy surface to matte, and some other stuff. Like how now you can remove and insert a DS cartridge without switching off the power, and it'll just show the game on the menu like the Wii channels.

sprsk · (10-23-2008, 12:57 PM)

Quote:

DS cartridge without switching off the power

woahhhhh

Tenbatsu · (10-23-2008, 01:05 PM)

Originally Posted by EmCeeGramr:

Just looking at Google Translate, it seems they talk about the camera, why they picked an "obsolete" resolution[/IMG]

Saw the interview, the resolution is good for viewing on the DSi but I still think the camera is too low-res. They integrated SD card into the DSi so as to able to view those photos in the Wii photo channel, but at 640 X480, I doubt its gonna be any good:(

Caesar III · (10-23-2008, 01:06 PM)

@sp0rks: yeah, that is great, too. But I'm not entirely sold yet.

@tenbatsu: VGA is enough for displaying on Wii and DS. Sure it is not enough to use as real photos. I think snapshots is the better word here. ;)

sprsk · (10-23-2008, 01:11 PM)

The reason that the camera is low res is because its easier to use in applications. The point of the camera isn't to be a photographer, but to use and have fun with.