It begins? Sony patents that break-apart controller - Page 5

Himuro · (10-30-2008, 06:01 PM)

One of those doohickey's look like a good dildo. Would make a good gift.

Azelover · (10-30-2008, 06:08 PM)

A sound wave detection? That seems like it would be a battery drain.

But it's just a patent so we really shouldn't assume anything, of course they're looking into motion controller ideas. By the time they get onto it though we'll have moved on, Nintendo included.

herod · (10-30-2008, 06:08 PM)

Originally Posted by Burai:

Yeah, I bet Nintendo are fucking kicking themselves.

I guess we'll find out in about 15 years or so. If waggle has the legs to last that long.

Dragona Akehi · (10-30-2008, 06:10 PM)

Uh guys? This actual product is not going to look anything like what is in the patents. They do this to be specifically obscure. Remember Nintendo's wiimote patents? Yeah.

Panajev2001a · (10-30-2008, 06:11 PM)

Originally Posted by Azelover:

A sound wave detection? That seems like it would be a battery drain

All the detection magic is performed by the PSEye (visual and audio-wave signals) which is connected to and powered by the PS3 :).

Acosta · (10-30-2008, 06:13 PM)

Originally Posted by Dragona Akehi:

Uh guys? This actual product is not going to look anything like what is in the patents. They do this to be specifically obscure. Remember Nintendo's wiimote patents? Yeah.

Don´t ruin their fun.

majortom1981 · (10-30-2008, 06:20 PM)

I think nintendos way of doing this is better. Have the camera on the controller and the leds on the tv .

Sonys way seems that a stationary camera will have a harder time keeping track of leds in motion then having the camera in motion and stationary leds.

Also this isnt anything diff then nintendo has tested with .

Nintendos wii mote is the way it is not because of tech but because of how cheap they can make it and still be usable.

leroy hacker · (10-30-2008, 06:23 PM)

Originally Posted by Panajev2001a:

All the detection magic is performed by the PSEye (visual and audio-wave signals) which is connected to and powered by the PS3 :).

But the sound is generated by the controller. That's what he meant.

Durante · (10-30-2008, 06:32 PM)

Originally Posted by Dragona Akehi:

Uh guys? This actual product is not going to look anything like what is in the patents. They do this to be specifically obscure. Remember Nintendo's wiimote patents? Yeah.

People (including me) have been saying that since the first page. But reality is much more boring than LOLZ DILDO.

gofreak · (10-30-2008, 06:34 PM)

Originally Posted by Dragona Akehi:

Uh guys? This actual product is not going to look anything like what is in the patents. They do this to be specifically obscure. Remember Nintendo's wiimote patents? Yeah.

From a totally different patent, but I wouldn't mind if it looked like these:

Quote:

Second one:

The thumb-tracking area could be used for other input too..like stylus perhaps. Or could be multitouch. I just wonder how equivalent it would be to an analog stick, but I could understand why they'd use a flat tracking area here rather than a stick (i.e. for comfort when you have it flipped over and are using the side with buttons).

But overall, that design is quite interesting..and certainly aesthetically a lot more pleasing than the designs in the other patents. Gimme that merged with the position detecting functionality of the OP patent, please..

pcostabel · (10-30-2008, 06:55 PM)

Originally Posted by majortom1981:

I think nintendos way of doing this is better. Have the camera on the controller and the leds on the tv .

Sonys way seems that a stationary camera will have a harder time keeping track of leds in motion then having the camera in motion and stationary leds.

How is that? The two are completely equivalent. If anything, moving the camera means the background is going to change constantly and it makes harder to isolate the leds. But since the camera is only sensitive to infrared, that is not a problem.

Somnid · (10-31-2008, 02:24 AM)

This one speaks for itself.

Pistolero · (10-31-2008, 02:30 AM)

Originally Posted by Hellraizer:

Blackace · (10-31-2008, 02:31 AM)

Originally Posted by Somnid:

This one speaks for itself.

Quick! To the Lawsuit Moblie!

grenks · 02:55 AM

thanks

Andrex · (10-31-2008, 02:48 AM)

Looks like balls.

Fuu · (10-31-2008, 02:53 AM)

Originally Posted by grenks:

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Fuck, not that fucking disgusting gif again. Edit that out, someone was banned once from using that shit as an avatar.

ultim8p00 · (10-31-2008, 02:55 AM)

Originally Posted by grenks:

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Urgh wtf that's so fucking messed up.

J-Rzez · (10-31-2008, 02:57 AM)

I hope there's an option to use the DS3/SA. But yeah, it'll be interesting to see how Sony comes up with it's inevitable competing controller. They have a nack about pushing tech.

Wired · (10-31-2008, 03:08 AM)

Doesn't look too comfortable

Falagard · (10-31-2008, 03:11 AM)

Originally Posted by Somnid:

This one speaks for itself.

Haha, OMG he has remotes attached to his feet!

Schrade · (10-31-2008, 03:11 AM)

Originally Posted by Dragona Akehi:

Uh guys? This actual product is not going to look anything like what is in the patents. They do this to be specifically obscure. Remember Nintendo's wiimote patents? Yeah.

Tsk tsk. Don't try to bring common sense to the anti-Sony fanboys. It's not compatible!

road2serfdom · (10-31-2008, 03:12 AM)

Originally Posted by pcostabel:

How is that? The two are completely equivalent. If anything, moving the camera means the background is going to change constantly and it makes harder to isolate the leds. But since the camera is only sensitive to infrared, that is not a problem.

They are not at all equivalent. Nintendo's way, you move your wrist 0.1 of a degree and it appears as a signfificant shift in the dots of the sensor bar picked up by the camera. Ever used a video camera and not held your hand steady? Sony's way you move your hand 0.1 degree and even a 50 megapixal 200fps camera would not to pick it up consistently. Sonys way might work for waggle but it is useless as a pointer. So no Conduit or Metroid Prime 3 type control.

Crayon · (10-31-2008, 03:16 AM)

I need one that attaches to my dangler and compelling software to support it.

saunderez · (10-31-2008, 03:20 AM)

Originally Posted by road2serfdom:

They are not at all equivalent. Nintendo's way, you move your wrist 0.1 of a degree and it appears as a signfificant shift in the dots of the sensor bar picked up by the camera. Ever used a video camera and not held your hand steady? Sony's way you move your hand 0.1 degree and even a 50 megapixal 200fps camera would not to pick it up consistently. Sonys way might work for waggle but it is useless as a pointer. So no Conduit or Metroid Prime 3 type control.

Who says they can't use it in conjunction with gyroscopic technology to use as a pointer. I'm using a gyroscopic mouse with my PC right now and it doesn't any LEDs or cameras. It doesn't even need to know where the monitor is.

road2serfdom · (10-31-2008, 03:31 AM)

Originally Posted by saunderez:

Who says they can't use it in conjunction with gyroscopic technology to use as a pointer. I'm using a gyroscopic mouse with my PC right now and it doesn't any LEDs or cameras. It doesn't even need to know where the monitor is.

Camera in the hand is so much better. Imagine a video camera in your hand with a dot on a white wall. Twist your hand a tiny bit and the dot the camera 'sees' moves dramatically across its virtual screen. Now imagine a camera that can be 200fps and cheap because it is not a real color camera like the eyetoy but only needs to "see" two infared dots. So now the camera sees magnification of you tiny movements at 200fps and sends info over Bluetooth at 200-300 fps. That is the kind of precise control that I don't think a gyroscope could match, certainly not an affordable one.

ace harding: private eye · (10-31-2008, 04:50 AM)

Crayon · (10-31-2008, 04:53 AM)

Originally Posted by ace harding: private eye:

Nobody has a patent on TRIPPIN BALLS.

saunderez · 04:59 AM

Originally Posted by road2serfdom:

That is the kind of precise control that I don't think a gyroscope could match, certainly not an affordable one.

I beg to differ. Gyroscopic mouses shit all over the Wiimote for accuracy as a pointer. I use the Logitech MX Air with my 42" LCD and I can consistently hit hyperlinks, window trimmings etc. The only issue they have is they lack orientation, which is something could be fixed with a complementary IR system.

If gyroscopes were so expensive Nintendo wouldn't be able to offer MotionPlus.

laserbeam · (10-31-2008, 04:57 AM)

Oh sony. always trying to be like the others and finding some way to be totally fucking stupid.

A device like that is not gonna bring in the casuals. Its insta-fail right away

TunaLover · (10-31-2008, 05:13 AM)

Originally Posted by Wired:

Doesn't look too comfortable

Looks like 13b already fertilized the ovulus

MickeyKnox · (10-31-2008, 05:14 AM)

Originally Posted by Somnid:

This one speaks for itself.

That's amazing.

Slayer-33 · (10-31-2008, 05:19 AM)

Originally Posted by Somnid:

This one speaks for itself.

holy lollacious christ..

wow.

Byakuya769 · (10-31-2008, 05:20 AM)

Originally Posted by Wired:

Doesn't look too comfortable

Yea, I did not know that many sperms could penetrate one egg.

vareon · (10-31-2008, 05:24 AM)

BICYCLE KIKKU

Kulock · (10-31-2008, 05:39 AM)

Anyone remember back when we knew the Revolution was going to have some sort of strange controller, but no idea what it would be like, and the drawings that ensued?

I can't believe Figure 21 is "and if the player executes a perfect bicycle kick with PS3motes strapped to his legs..."

Burai · (10-31-2008, 08:58 AM)

Originally Posted by herod:

I guess we'll find out in about 15 years or so. If waggle has the legs to last that long.

Do you really believe 15 years to be a fair period of time to judge how successful an idea is? That's three console generations. By your "logic", the NES was a flop and a fad because the PS2 wasn't doing 8-bit 2D sprite-based games 15 years later.

Hellraizer · (10-31-2008, 09:05 AM)

Originally Posted by Somnid:

This one speaks for itself.

Who comes up with this shit? Yes I absolutely have enough space in the living room, and balls of steel to perform something like this. Also my floor is made of grass so I won't feel much pain if I fall on it.

I know I know, it's just a patent, but still, even getting this idea...

herod · (10-31-2008, 09:07 AM)

Originally Posted by Burai:

Do you really believe 15 years to be a fair period of time to judge how successful an idea is? That's three console generations. By your "logic", the NES was a flop and a fad because the PS2 wasn't doing 8-bit 2D sprite-based games 15 years later.

huh, I thought we were talking about controllers.

White Man · (10-31-2008, 09:10 AM)

Originally Posted by Rlan:

Damn that's ugly.

Reminds me of the Existenz controller for some reason.

Not really. I wish it did, but it bears no resemblance to the flesh pod.

Tael · (10-31-2008, 09:31 AM)

It looks terrible.

Galactic Fork · (10-31-2008, 09:46 AM)

Originally Posted by Somnid:

This one speaks for itself.

Isn't that overkill? He's right by the goal and the goalie's not anywhere in sight. Unless he IS the goalie and the player just slipped while playing.

flipswitch · (10-31-2008, 09:54 AM)

I see a lot of potential in this.I just wonder if regular ice cream scoops will work with this, or do I have to buy Sony ones?

shiwasu · (10-31-2008, 10:14 AM)

Originally Posted by Falagard:

Haha, OMG he has remotes attached to his feet!

I didn't even notice that the first time I looked. Good job, Sony.

Paracelsus · (10-31-2008, 10:21 AM)

Originally Posted by Hellraizer:

Who comes up with this shit?
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I'd buy three copies of a 3D beat-em-up with that fighting system.

Billen · 11:17 AM

I laughed so hard at this thread that I cried. From joy that is. Then I realized that Sony were serious. Then I cried again, this time from sadness.

reakt · (10-31-2008, 10:54 AM)

Originally Posted by Falagard:

Haha, OMG he has remotes attached to his feet!

Just don't forget to take them off when you go out!

Sleeker · (10-31-2008, 11:22 AM)

Dualshock double-ender

Billen · (10-31-2008, 11:34 AM)

Originally Posted by gofreak:

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Crayon · (10-31-2008, 12:35 PM)