Nintendo Financial Results Briefing [GfK, NPD, etc.]

Captain Smoker · (10-31-2008, 02:44 PM)

A lot of interesting stuff:

Quote:

sources:
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/index.html
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/18/index.html

Stumpokapow · 02:57 PM

of note from the supplemental data release:
- wander donkey not on 2009 ds release list. shitcanned? (edit: removed kirby, it is on the list)
- mario tennis and pikmin gcn->wii ports confirmed for us
- valkyrie profile ds confirmed for us.

cw_sasuke · (10-31-2008, 02:54 PM)

Originally Posted by Stumpokapow:

of note from the supplemental data release:
- kirby not on 2009 wii release list, wander donkey not on 2009 ds release list. shitcanned?

http://kotaku.com/5071872/the-great-...lease-schedule

Stumpokapow · (10-31-2008, 02:56 PM)

Originally Posted by cw_sasuke:

http://kotaku.com/5071872/the-great-...lease-schedule

well that's what i get for reading a list reported second-hand instead of clicking on the pdf myself. consider me ashamed. i'll put myself in a 30 minute time out in the corner.

schuelma · (10-31-2008, 02:58 PM)

Originally Posted by Stumpokapow:

well that's what i get for reading a list reported second-hand instead of clicking on the pdf myself. consider me ashamed. i'll put myself in a 30 minute time out in the corner.

I still think you may be on to something. Wasn't Kirby in the 08 financial reports all last year as well?

Jammy · (10-31-2008, 02:59 PM)

Huge numbers for the big three (SSBB, Wii Fit, Mario Kart Wii)... with Nintendogs and other DS games just reaching for 15 million and beyond.

Captain Smoker · (10-31-2008, 03:06 PM)

It's time to count some pixels. xD

Europe Hardware:

Chart Track / Elspa = UK
GfK = France
Media Control = Germany
AC Nielsen = Spain

1 pixel = 71,428

2008 Europe Hardware Jan. - Sep.:
Wii = 48 pixels = 3,428,571
PS3 = 21 pixels = 1,500,000
360 = 14 pixels = 1,000,000
PS2 = 06 pixels = 428,571

cw_sasuke · (10-31-2008, 03:07 PM)

Originally Posted by Captain Smoker:

It's time to count some pixels. xD

1 pixel = 71,428

2008 Europe Hardware Jan. - Sep.:
Wii = 48 pixels = 3,428,571
PS3 = 21 pixels = 1,500,000
360 = 14 pixels = 1,000,000
PS2 = 06 pixels = 428,571

Awesome *haha* *goodwork*
Poor 360 Sales :o
Ps2 is also slowly dying ....

yankee666 · (10-31-2008, 03:12 PM)

Will the Cube wimakes gonna have some wiimote implementation or they only will repack as wii games (easy money)?? Ill love to see Mario tennis wiimote edition, but much more a REAL Mario Tennis wii.

cw_sasuke · (10-31-2008, 03:14 PM)

Originally Posted by yankee666:

Will the Cube wimakes gonna have some wiimote implementation or they only will repack as wii games (easy money)?? Ill love to see Mario tennis wiimote edition, but much more a REAL Mario Tennis wii.

There will be wiimote implementation. Pikmin 1+2 should be even more awesome with Wii Controls.

Psychotext · (10-31-2008, 03:19 PM)

Originally Posted by Captain Smoker:

2008 Europe Hardware Jan. - Sep.:
Wii = 48 pixels = 3,428,571
PS3 = 21 pixels = 1,500,000
360 = 14 pixels = 1,000,000
PS2 = 06 pixels = 428,571

Wii is an utter beast... ludicrous.

HK-47 · (10-31-2008, 03:20 PM)

Damn no AC DS or Galaxy updates

Also no D/P?

yankee666 · (10-31-2008, 03:21 PM)

Originally Posted by cw_sasuke:

There will be wiimote implementation. Pikmin 1+2 should be even more awesome with Wii Controls.

YEahhh, those game plus Metroid prime 1+2 gonna be amazing with the wiimote!!!

Michan · (10-31-2008, 03:23 PM)

Delicious numbers, I must eat them.

Wow @ Europe's gained share the last few years.

Atreides · (10-31-2008, 03:44 PM)

DS is a software beast. Even if just a few games make the top 10.

Michan · 04:11 PM

Sony marketing friendly statistics below (using 1 pixel = 71,428.57 units).

USA 2007 (Jan 1 - Sep 30):

Wii: 3,392,857 (37.3% share)
360: 2,250,000 (24.7% share)
PS2: 2,142,857 (23.5% share)
PS3: 1,142,857 (12.5% share)
GCN: 178,571 (2% share)
All: 9,107,142

USA 2008 (Jan 1 - Sep 30):

Wii: 5,107,143 +50.5% (45.8% share)
PS3: 2,214,286 +93.8% (19.9% share)
360: 2,107,143 -6.35% (18.9% share)
PS2: 1,678,571 -21.7% (15.1% share)
GCN: 35,714 -80% (0.3% share)
All: 11,142,857

+22.4% year-on-year growth for USA hardware

Psychotext · 04:11 PM

Actually... that's a fairly good way of testing the pixel theory because we have released NPD data to cover those periods.

USA 2008 (Jan - Aug Inclusive NPD):

Wii: 4,491,000
PS3: 2,018,400
360: 1,741,000

Are we sure it's not to the end of September which would give us:

USA 2008 (Jan - Sep Inclusive NPD):

Wii: 5,178,000
PS3: 2,250,800
360: 2,088,200

[Edit - It must be... which means that the pixel theory is pretty accurate]

Michan · (10-31-2008, 04:11 PM)

Originally Posted by Psychotext:

Actually... that's a fairly good way of testing the pixel theory because we have NPD data to cover those periods.

USA 2008 (Jan - Aug Inclusive NPD):

Wii: 4,491,000
PS3: 2,018,400
360: 1,741,000

Are we sure it's not to the end of September which would give us:

USA 2008 (Jan - Sep Inclusive NPD):

Wii: 5,178,000
PS3: 2,250,800
360: 2,088,200

[Edit - It must be... which means that the pixel theory is pretty accurate]

Looks like we're on to something!

Pureauthor · (10-31-2008, 04:14 PM)

Guys, are you even aware of how the pixel theory came about?

Psychotext · (10-31-2008, 04:15 PM)

Not a clue. But it's always nice to test things.

Michan · (10-31-2008, 04:18 PM)

Originally Posted by Pureauthor:

Guys, are you even aware of how the pixel theory came about?

I seem to remember counting pixels long before Captain Smoker's contribution to this thread (with my Mario charts, etc), but if you'd like to speak about the origins of this dark art, then go right ahead.

manueldelalas · (10-31-2008, 04:33 PM)

So, do we have world wide numbers? (graphs)

I would like to know what is the gap between Wii and HD consoles =P.

Parl · (10-31-2008, 04:38 PM)

Good news for Nintendo: Or how Wii and DS are #1 and #2 in hardware and software in US and Other

DS creams PSP in Europe.

Wii software sales defeat 360 and PS3 software sales in US.

Wii and DS the software kings in US. More evidence that the top 10 NPD are useless to guesstimate relative total software sales.

Wii and DS software account for more than half of total software market in Europe. Sonyland is no more.

Wii and DS software sales reaching the half way mark of total US software market.

DS #1, Wii #2 in Europe.

Wii strongest platform for third parties for US at respective points since launch.

First party sales strongest in Wii in US (ultra-obvious one).

Add them together, Wii the clear software winner in US, launches aligned.

Additionally:

Global million sellers:
DS: 69 (39 third party million sellers)
Wii: 36 (21 third party million sellers)

Bad news for Nintendo: Japanese market

DS increases its installed base at a slower rate this year in Japan.

Still on par with previous precedent though.

Good news for Nintendo:

Captain Smoker · (10-31-2008, 04:39 PM)

Originally Posted by manueldelalas:

So, do we have world wide numbers? (graphs)

I would like to know what is the gap between Wii and HD consoles =P.

http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/1.../image/p45.gif
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/1.../image/p46.gif
http://www.irwebcasting.com/081031/1.../image/p47.gif

WII = 29.800.000
360 = 16.000.000 - 17.000.000
PS3 = 12.600.000

29.800.000 > 28.600.000 - 29.600.000

But that's without Canada, Australia, Russia, Korea and the Rest of the World.

Captain Smoker · (10-31-2008, 04:44 PM)

Quote:

Global million sellers:
DS: 69 (39 third party million sellers)
Wii: 36 (21 third party million sellers)

Thx. :)

Here are the pics:

ecierif · (10-31-2008, 04:44 PM)

Nintendogs has sold 20 million? Would the combined SKUs make it the best selling DS game?

Shiggy · (10-31-2008, 04:45 PM)

Concerning Europe, if I see it correctly, the Nintendo has sold around a million more Wii consoles if you count the sales of both competitors together.

JoshuaJSlone · (10-31-2008, 04:46 PM)

Originally Posted by Stumpokapow:

- mario tennis and pikmin gcn->wii ports confirmed for us

Now I just need a release date.

Pureauthor · (10-31-2008, 04:50 PM)

So, uh, anyone know which system has the most number of million sellers WW, and exactly how much?

fabprems · (10-31-2008, 04:53 PM)

Originally Posted by Parl:

Well, seems that GTAIV (week 18) did not act like a "wii killer ap", thanks to Wii fit I guess... Impressive.

fabprems · (10-31-2008, 04:59 PM)

Originally Posted by Captain Smoker:

Thx. :)

Here are the pics:

Well, the message Nintendo is sending to third party is pretty clear.
"We have plenty of money, so be our guest while we take a rest"

DavidDayton · (10-31-2008, 05:20 PM)

Originally Posted by yankee666:

YEahhh, those game plus Metroid prime 1+2 gonna be amazing with the wiimote!!!

As far as we know, wasn't the plan to release Metroid Prime 1 and 2 -individually- on the Wii?

If they are going to bundle 'em, I'd buy the package immediately.

CreatureX3 · (10-31-2008, 06:26 PM)

Third parties are making a killing on Wii!

mentalfloss · (10-31-2008, 06:34 PM)

Originally Posted by CreatureX3:

Third parties are making a killing on Wii!

and DS

Captain Smoker · (10-31-2008, 06:56 PM)

Thx to BKK2 for the analysis.

Europe, weekly hardware sales analysis:

A: 360: Hardware price cut
B: PS3: GT5:Prologue released
C: Wii: Mario Kart Wii released
D: Wii: Wii Fit Released
E: PS3: GTA IV released
E: 360: GTA IV released
F: Wii: Super Smash Bros. Brawl released
G: PS3: 80Gb model released
H: 360: Hardware price cut
H: 360: FIFA 09 released
H: PS3: FIFA 09 released

Linkup · 07:10 PM

Stumpokapow · (10-31-2008, 07:10 PM)

fiscal year ended march 2008, yes they are old

shykyoichi · (11-05-2008, 07:54 AM)

Originally Posted by Stumpokapow:

- valkyrie profile ds confirmed for us.

? I wasn't able to see a tentative release date.

donkey show · (11-05-2008, 08:06 AM)

All I needed to see was Wii de Asobu Mario Tennis GC.

If we can't get a decent Wii tennis game aside from Wii Sports, I am all for Mario Power Tennis to have Wii controls.

Caesar III · (11-05-2008, 10:50 AM)

Originally Posted by donkey show:

All I needed to see was Wii de Asobu Mario Tennis GC.

If we can't get a decent Wii tennis game aside from Wii Sports, I am all for Mario Power Tennis to have Wii controls.

I haven't realized this. I hope they improve the visuals a bit on Wii. But I would prefer a straight Wii developed version.

Shin Johnpv · (11-05-2008, 02:50 PM)

Originally Posted by Captain Smoker:

I look at this and go WOW, that's with the absolute shit tripe that third parties have released on the Wii so far. Imagine if they had put some fucking effort into their shit, and released games of the same caliber as what they're doing on the PS360. Third parties really need to wake the fuck up already.

DNF · (11-05-2008, 05:54 PM)

Originally Posted by fabprems:

Well, the message Nintendo is sending to third party is pretty clear.
"We have plenty of money, so be our guest while we take a rest"

And the message from third-party on wii to Nintendo is also pretty clear.
"Nah Nintendo, we don't like money, so we will just release another 20 Animalzzz and multiplatform-games with shitty graphics and without online features"

skinnyrattler · (11-05-2008, 06:25 PM)

Never finished Pikmin 2 so I'll be looking forward to that with Wiimote controls. Definitely looking forward to Metroid Prime 2 and may even give 1 a replay for the right price.

Andrex · (11-05-2008, 09:21 PM)

Originally Posted by Captain Smoker:

Thx. :)

Here are the pics:

Can we get a list of the Wii ones please? :)