KILLZONE 2 - input lag now? if you want a reskinned COD4, go play WaW - Page 12

StuBurns · (11-14-2008, 10:02 PM)

Originally Posted by EnthusiasTech:

This should be on the cover ;

..

That would have been awesome.

JudgeN · (11-14-2008, 10:03 PM)

Originally Posted by stuburns:

The cover art is really bad. The stand in one some people were using was so much better.

Why can't covers be simplistic anymore. The range of MGS4 covers was the worst thing, to see and compare what they think different people want.

Damn they should used this as box art.

Die Squirrel Die · (11-14-2008, 10:07 PM)

Originally Posted by stuburns:

Make the logo larger and orange like the official box, and the Helghans eyes redder and more glowing and you'd have me sold.

VindicatorZ · (11-14-2008, 10:22 PM)

how is that bland boxart AT ALL better than the official one? Sony Marketing knows what they are doing with that boxart, I can imagine people seeing the glowing Helghast in a store going "whoa whats that" Not some simplistic white backround.

StuBurns · (11-14-2008, 10:24 PM)

Originally Posted by VindicatorZ:

how is that bland boxart AT ALL better than the official one? Sony Marketing knows what they are doing with that boxart, I can imagine people seeing the glowing Helghast in a store going "whoa whats that" Not some simplistic white backround.

I'm not judging it based on how effective a marketing image it is. I'm judging it on what I want to own and look at for years.

Blader5489 · (11-14-2008, 10:26 PM)

I know the SP embargo is in December, but has there been any word at all about how long the campaign will be?

Tormentoso · (11-14-2008, 10:27 PM)

Originally Posted by Projectjustice:

Its been so long since this was suppose to come out. I wonder how the end product is.

PJ was up dude....

Die Squirrel Die · (11-14-2008, 10:31 PM)

Originally Posted by VindicatorZ:

how is that bland boxart AT ALL better than the official one? Sony Marketing knows what they are doing with that boxart, I can imagine people seeing the glowing Helghast in a store going "whoa whats that" Not some simplistic white backround.

I imagine that people won't notice the cover that much against numerous similar covers. It's pretty standard fare as far as shooters go.

Armed person with dark background of destruction motif.

Heavily armoured guy staring out motif.

Tom Penny · (11-14-2008, 10:31 PM)

Originally Posted by AlphaSnake:

Loved, Loved, Loved, Didn't care for.

A quick breakdown of some of my scores:
PS3 Bioshock a 9.3,
COD4 a 9.4,
UTIII a 9.5 (die hard UT fan),

Opinion -1

Fizzle · (11-14-2008, 10:42 PM)

Originally Posted by Blader5489:

I know the SP embargo is in December, but has there been any word at all about how long the campaign will be?

I don't think they anyone can disclose any of that information right now.

BUT, I remember something distinctive about 45-50 mins to finish each level, from somewhere.

FFObsessed · (11-14-2008, 10:47 PM)

Jeff Haynes from IGN is in Amsterdam for Killzone 2 and they have the preview with all the levels in the office now. Didn't say anything about it but they said it has some awesome trophies.

AlphaSnake · (11-14-2008, 10:53 PM)

Originally Posted by Tom Penny:

Opinion -1

You gotta' look at those scores from a time perspective too. Last year Bioshock would've scored the same as the other two, if not higher. This year, the game is facing a plethora of competition and is also dated in some respects. There's no denying that the story of Bioshock absolutely demolishes the other two, but it IS missing key aspects. Ultimately, the technical and multiplayer achievements of both UTIII and COD4 put them just barely over Bioshock. I can't simply rate a game based on its single-player merits, that wouldn't be fair.

FFObsessed · (11-14-2008, 10:56 PM)

More KZ2 comments please. :p

nelsonroyale · (11-14-2008, 10:56 PM)

Originally Posted by AlphaSnake:

You gotta' look at those scores from a time perspective too. Last year Bioshock would've scored the same as the other two, if not higher. This year, the game is facing a plethora of competition and is also dated in some respects. There's no denying that the story of Bioshock absolutely demolishes the other two, but it IS missing key aspects. Ultimately, the technical and multiplayer achievements of both UTIII and COD4 put them just barely over Bioshock. I can't simply rate a game based on its single-player merits, that wouldn't be fair.

didn't play the other two, but I wouldnt have even scored bioshock that high...and I played it on the pc... Extremely linear game, the narrative is well implemented, but also extremely minimal...and an extremely flat ending. Also though fontaine was a bit of a crappy villain.

Schrade · (11-14-2008, 10:58 PM)

The chirp sounds from kills and medic heals are soooo awesome. It is a constant reward while playing.

Fuck, they've just got so much right with this game it's insane.

Tom Penny · (11-14-2008, 11:01 PM)

Originally Posted by AlphaSnake:

You gotta' look at those scores from a time perspective too. Last year Bioshock would've scored the same as the other two, if not higher. This year, the game is facing a plethora of competition and is also dated in some respects. There's no denying that the story of Bioshock absolutely demolishes the other two, but it IS missing key aspects. Ultimately, the technical and multiplayer achievements of both UTIII and COD4 put them just barely over Bioshock. I can't simply rate a game based on its single-player merits, that wouldn't be fair.

I think you scored all of them too high. None are even a 9 IMO. To say KZ2 is better than those games isn't saying much too me because it should be.

Kagari · (11-14-2008, 11:05 PM)

Originally Posted by Schrade:

The chirp sounds from kills and medic heals are soooo awesome. It is a constant reward while playing.

Fuck, they've just got so much right with this game it's insane.

I'm trying not to watch all these videos, but it's so hard with comments like these!

Ploid 3.0 · (11-14-2008, 11:09 PM)

Originally Posted by nelsonroyale:

didn't play the other two, but I wouldnt have even scored bioshock that high...and I played it on the pc... Extremely linear game, the narrative is well implemented, but also extremely minimal...and an extremely flat ending. Also though fontaine was a bit of a crappy villain.

Now that people are talking about Bioshock a little. Could someone please PM me the twist that was "So awesome, and surprising"? I played up until the artist and killing the piano player. I was sent on some fetch and got fed up. The people in the official PS3 bioshock thread didn't want to tell me, and laughed at me for never being able to find out now that I quit it.

oneHeero · (11-14-2008, 11:11 PM)

Originally Posted by skulpt:

From one of the newer trailers that I posted a while back:

The sparks, lighting, heat distortion..... 'drools'......

Anyone notice the guy in the background?
As the rocket is shot, the lighting shows a guy in the back on a ledge turning around. Awesome looking!

kenta · (11-14-2008, 11:13 PM)

Originally Posted by Tom Penny:

I think you scored all of them too high. None are even a 9 IMO. To say KZ2 is better than those games isn't saying much too me because it should be.

I don't think I've ever seen someone try as hard as you're trying to find reasons to dislike a game

It's really fascinating to be honest

Tom Penny · (11-14-2008, 11:22 PM)

Originally Posted by kenta:

I don't think I've ever seen someone try as hard as you're trying to find reasons to dislike a game

It's really fascinating to be honest

Who said I didn't like the game. It not my fault most people around here think average games are fantastic. There really aren't alot of great games but so many of you and reviewers apparently think there are a ridiculous amount of them. I just look at the amount of games that get 9's and laugh. It's a joke.

roMonster · (11-14-2008, 11:27 PM)

Very vanilla preview from Gamespot.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/k...&mode=previews

Quote:

but there are certainly no physics-based money shots such as deformable scenery or movable objects.

O_O, that didn't really make sense because there are 3 gifs floating out there that define the term physics-based money shot.

http://i38.tinypic.com/243grx5.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/i35l5x.gif
http://i38.tinypic.com/nw0boi.gif

Wtf more do they want?

Blader5489 · (11-14-2008, 11:27 PM)

Originally Posted by Ploid 3.0:

Now that people are talking about Bioshock a little. Could someone please PM me the twist that was "So awesome, and surprising"? I played up until the artist and killing the piano player. I was sent on some fetch and got fed up. The people in the official PS3 bioshock thread didn't want to tell me, and laughed at me for never being able to find out now that I quit it.

No, you really have to find out for yourself. Reading about it is not nearly as "awesome and surprising" as actually experiencing it.

Dante · (11-14-2008, 11:30 PM)

Originally Posted by roMonster:

Very vanilla preview from Gamespot.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/k...&mode=previews

O_O, that didn't really make sense because there are 3 gifs floating out there that define the term physics-based money shot.

http://i38.tinypic.com/243grx5.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/i35l5x.gif
http://i38.tinypic.com/nw0boi.gif

Wtf more do they want?

There's like a million videos with destructible terrain out there.

StuBurns · (11-14-2008, 11:30 PM)

Originally Posted by Ploid 3.0:

Now that people are talking about Bioshock a little. Could someone please PM me the twist that was "So awesome, and surprising"? I played up until the artist and killing the piano player. I was sent on some fetch and got fed up. The people in the official PS3 bioshock thread didn't want to tell me, and laughed at me for never being able to find out now that I quit it.

Would you kindly just play the game and experience it? It's never going to be any good just being told.

AranhaHunter · (11-14-2008, 11:30 PM)

If I could I would share my beta key with everybody so everyone could experience the awesomeness that is Killzone 2.

VindicatorZ · (11-14-2008, 11:31 PM)

Yeah wtf is the gamespot preview talking about??

AlphaSnake · (11-14-2008, 11:31 PM)

Originally Posted by Tom Penny:

I think you scored all of them too high. None are even a 9 IMO. To say KZ2 is better than those games isn't saying much too me because it should be.

Really? I mean, I know that I'm above average with UTIII, but that's about it. I guess you feel the games were overrated as whole, since the average on GR for COD4 and Bioshock are 94 and 95. But enough with that, this is kinda' getting OT.

Ploid 3.0 · 11:39 PM

I don't mind not being surprised. I deleted the save file, and uninstalled the game. I'm not playing it again. Looking at speed runs make it hard to hear what the radio is saying if they actually activate the audio message.

Originally Posted by stuburns:

Would you kindly just play the game and experience it? It's never going to be any good just being told.

Ooh is this a hint? I looked at the bioshock episode of hey Ash, what are you playing (gametrailers, butchered title). They had a lot of "would you kindly".

Oh is the guy over the radio Andrew? Or does he have a ability to control minds with atom? "Would you kindly pick up the crowbar or something"

I always thought it was odd that the main character helped him with everything such as finding his family. The whole time I wondered why that guy that died at the start came all the way where I was, and now I'm doing stuff like the dead guy for a person over a radio. It has to be a mind control plasmid.

Dante · (11-14-2008, 11:34 PM)

Alpha's reviews on the above games are pretty much the norm on those titles.

Kagari · (11-14-2008, 11:35 PM)

lol, gamespot.

ImperialConquest · (11-14-2008, 11:36 PM)

Wait, it's out in FEBRUARY?!

FUUUUUUUCCCCCCCKKKKKKK, you guys just burst my bubble. Thought it'd be out by the holidays. :\

Looking forward to it.

+1

AndyD · (11-14-2008, 11:37 PM)

Originally Posted by VindicatorZ:

Yeah wtf is the gamespot preview talking about??

I dont think they had anything negative to say, so they made stuff up

The incredible animation and physics based destructible parts are what sets this game's MP apart from other games...

jett · (11-14-2008, 11:39 PM)

Originally Posted by stuburns:

The cover art is really bad. The stand in one some people were using was so much better.

Why can't covers be simplistic anymore. The range of MGS4 covers was the worst thing, to see and compare what they think different people want.

WTF? That cover is complete crap.

Rapping Granny · (11-14-2008, 11:39 PM)

The press really have a thing with this game.

They just want to shit on it really bad but can't.

jett · (11-14-2008, 11:42 PM)

Originally Posted by Rapping Granny:

The press really have a thing with this game.

They just want to shit on it really bad but can't.

It's too bad the beta is so limited, otherwise people would manage to realize what a worthless bunch these pseudojournalists are.

mr_nothin · (11-14-2008, 11:43 PM)

Originally Posted by Kagari:

I'm trying not to watch all these videos, but it's so hard with comments like these!

What is there to spoil about the multiplayer?
XD

Even when you watch all of the videos, it's kind of hard to grasp exactly how they play. The way the class system works was really different than how i pictured it.

Loudninja · (11-14-2008, 11:45 PM)

Damn I should have gave the code away, I barely playing it because of Fallout 3 :(

KTallguy · (11-14-2008, 11:45 PM)

Originally Posted by jett:

It's too bad the beta is so limited, otherwise people would manage to realize what a worthless bunch these pseudojournalists are.

The only thing I would say about the game is that things take forever to be unlocked.
You have to play several hours to unlock the medic. I think some classes should be open from the start.

Ploid 3.0 · 11:52 PM

Sorry about all of this off topic.

I found it though. Thanks for the hint stuburns. It was at youtube search "Bioshock - Would You Kindly?"

After seeing it, it wasn't really worth playing through again to me. Neat but not amazing. I didn't obey heh, I got fed up with his fetch quests. I win.

Also I guess that's why the guy was so adamant on me harvesting the little sisters. I was like, "shut the crap up dude. I'm not doing it." Also why he was able to stop the lady from killing me the first time I went near a little sister to free her.

Dante · (11-14-2008, 11:48 PM)

Originally Posted by Loudninja:

Damn I should have gave the code away, I barely playing it because of Fallout 3 :(

Oh.........No Words. I could have sent you some games even.....

kenta · (11-14-2008, 11:49 PM)

Originally Posted by roMonster:

Very vanilla preview from Gamespot.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/k...&mode=previews

O_O, that didn't really make sense because there are 3 gifs floating out there that define the term physics-based money shot.

http://i38.tinypic.com/243grx5.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/i35l5x.gif
http://i38.tinypic.com/nw0boi.gif

Wtf more do they want?

Makes it sound like they only played one round in Salamun Market since that level doesn't have a whole lot of environmental interaction. It's a very well-designed level but the other two levels in the beta have much more deformation and physics-based interaction

Rapping Granny · (11-14-2008, 11:49 PM)

Originally Posted by Loudninja:

Damn I should have gave the code away, I barely playing it because of Fallout 3 :(

GAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!

BLAHHHHHASDDDDDDDDDDDDD

StuBurns · (11-14-2008, 11:49 PM)

Originally Posted by Ploid 3.0:

Sorry about all of this off topic.

I found it though. Thanks for the hint stuburns. It was at youtube search "Bioshock - Would You Kindly?"

After seeing it, it wasn't really worth playing through again to me. Neat but not amazing. I didn't obey heh, I got fed up with his fetch quests. I win.

I didn't want to flat out say it because I do think it's better to play it first hand, and worth playing for generally. But if I got you the answer you wanted, then that's cool.

RoboPlato · (11-14-2008, 11:50 PM)

Originally Posted by Loudninja:

Damn I should have gave the code away, I barely playing it because of Fallout 3 :(

DIBS

Blader5489 · (11-14-2008, 11:50 PM)

Originally Posted by Ploid 3.0:

Sorry about all of this off topic.

I found it though. Thanks for the hint stuburns. It was at youtube search "Bioshock - Would You Kindly?"

After seeing it, it wasn't really worth playing through again to me. Neat but not amazing. I didn't obey heh, I got fed up with his fetch quests. I win.

That's because you read instead of played it! grrr...

Ploid 3.0 · (11-14-2008, 11:54 PM)

Originally Posted by stuburns:

I didn't want to flat out say it because I do think it's better to play it first hand, and worth playing for generally. But if I got you the answer you wanted, then that's cool.

Originally Posted by Blader5489:

That's because you read instead of played it! grrr...

Nah, I kinda understand it a bit. I see how it could have been as good of a twist as so many said it was. I'm glad I didn't have to play it again ti find out. Thank you, I really mean it. I'm now thinking about the stuff I went through, the behaviors of the characters and such. Yea it was a good twist.

I take my "neat but not amazing" statement back.

Rapping Granny · (11-14-2008, 11:55 PM)

Originally Posted by RoboPlato:

DIBS

He already used it on his account but doesn't play it :(

RoboPlato · (11-14-2008, 11:56 PM)

Originally Posted by Rapping Granny:

He already used it on his account but doesn't play it :(

I should have known.

Loudninja · (11-14-2008, 11:59 PM)

Finally playing it now, sooooooooooooooooooooooo good, very very fun.